hello, it's thursday, it's 10 o'clock, i'mjoanna gosling. the prime minister's decision to suspend parliament has prompted protests across the country and a petition signed by more than a million people. but cabinet ministers say it isn't an attempt to stop them preventing a no deal

brexit. this is completely constitutional and proper. there is going to be lots of time to debate before the 315t of october. parliament will be sitting then and will be able to have whatever motions it once. we'll talk to mps and an audience of voters. it's not undemocratic, it'sjust it's not undemocratic, it's just not the right way to do it. proroguing parliament after the normal recess, mps will have ample time to debate brexit. members of parliament have an obligation to have a say in what happens by october the 315t. an obligation to have a say in what happens by october the 31st. it's extraordinary, but desperate times call for desperate measures, and for the sake of democracy this needed to happen. and of course we'd welcome your views — get in touch in the usual ways. also today, we'll talk to the mum of 20—year—old freddie pring, who died after falling from the second floor balcony of a hotel in

magaluf injune. hello. welcome to the programme. we're live until 11 this morning. the papers this morning are full of boris johnson's decision to suspend parliament. the times, johnson goes for broke. and boris takes the gloves off is how the daily mail puts it with a picture of him looking like he is limbering up, in an historic move, he suspends parliament. same picture on the front of the sun newspaper with the headline, hey, big suspender. leaving remain is reeling, so the paper says. prorogue is the daily mirror treatment of the story saying that the pm has been branded a tinpot dictator for suspending parliament. mps outraged asjohnson shuts down parliament is the front of the eye newspaper and the front of the eye newspaper and the daily telegraph quotes a constitutional expert who has said

in the past, he died some time ago, but he said that the prime minister must give effect to the will of the nation. that is the constitutional job. that debate over whether this is anti constitutional or not, we will be getting stuck into that argument shortly. outrage asjohnson suspends parliament is the front of the guardian. that is how the papers are seeing it. do let us know your thoughts. the prime minister's decision to suspend parliament has prompted an angry backlash from mps and opponents of a no—deal brexit. it sparked protests across the country, a legal challenge and a petition with more than one point three million signatures. the government said the five—week suspension in september and october

ahead of the brexit deadline will still allow time to debate the issue. the commons leader, jacob rees mogg, insists that the suspension is "completely constitutional and proper". this is completely constitutional and proper. there is going to be lots of time to debate before the 315t of october. parliament will be sitting then and will be able to have whatever motions it wants. i think the outrage is phony and created by people who don't want us to leave the european union and are trying very hard to overturn the referendum result and don't want the benefits the scottish conservative leader, ruth davidson, is expected to quit today, after nearly eight years in the job. ms davidson has clashed with borisjohnson over brexit, but a spokesman says her decision isn't directly related to parliament's suspension. her friends say her departure is also due to family reasons — she gave birth to a son last year. an investigation has found that it's still too easy for children to buy knives on the high street — that's despite major retailers pledging to end illegal sales. trading standards say underaged shoppers were sold knives on more than 300 occasions in a year

when their teams carried out tests at various national chains and independent stores. millions of people who paid for payment protection insurance, known as ppi, on loans and credit cards have until midnight tonight to put in a claim for compensation. banks have paid out tens of billions of pounds for mis—selling the policies, but consumer groups warn that many could miss out if they don't take action today. greta thunberg, the teenage environmental activist, has arrived in new york after spending two weeks crossing the atlantic on a yacht to avoid the carbon emissions of flying. she's due to speak at a un summit on climate change next month. the activist was met by a flotilla of boats in new york harbour and said she was quite taken aback by the response. that is a summary of the main news so that is a summary of the main news so far.

cabinet ministers have been defending boris johnson's decision to suspend parliament — after the commons speaker, closely followed by opposition politicians, called it a "constitutional outrage" designed to stop mps blocking a no—deal brexit. demonstrations have been taking place across the country and more than 1.3 million people have signed a petition protesting at the move by the prime minister. the government says the five—week suspension in september and october will still allow time to debate brexit. and conservative leader of the house jacob rees—mogg said this morning that borisjohnson‘s opponents were "phoney" and just wanted to stay in the eu. in a moment we'll talk to mps and our audience of voters, but first let's take a look at how this latest development unfolded. this time this was courtesy of the bombshell from boris johnson announcing that parliament would be suspended just days after mps returned from their summer break on tuesday, a move opposition mps

believe is designed to allow mr johnson to ram through his brexit plans unopposed. but the pm says it is nothing of the sort. farfrom being a scheme to sidestep brexit cruises —— scrutiny, he says the current parliamentary session has gone on for too long and it's essential the government starts a new session to get on with things other than brexit. his defenders point out that shutting down parliament before a new queen speech, which is the way a government normally sets out its plans, is part of the ordinary course of things. but opposition politicians are not convinced. they say it is a cynical ruse designed to frustrate efforts to block a no deal exit, which mrjohnson said he would pursue if the eu does not offer the uka pursue if the eu does not offer the uk a better deal than the one agreed by theresa may. fearful of disruption and damage the economy, many mps that they will do anything in their power to stop it happening and just this week after a summer of plotting, they are

suggesting they will design a law to prevent a no deal exit on the 31st of october. mr johnson's announcement means there will be precious little time for such a plan to take shape but it could prove to be a high—stakes gamble because it might risk those who are opposed to no deal coming together to attempt to bring down mr johnson's government in a vote of no—confidence. it might all sound a bit technical, but no mistake, with mps returning to westminster next week a huge political storm is brewing. let's see what the voters in ourstudio brewing. let's see what the voters in our studio think of this. a cross—section of members of the public have joined us, cross—section of members of the public havejoined us, roughly cross—section of members of the public have joined us, roughly half and half in favour and opposed and we will also bejoined by and half in favour and opposed and we will also be joined by mps of all flavours and with us, hannah white, from the institute of government a constitutional expert who can help us constitutional expert who can help us navigate the questions of the constitutional issues. welcome,

everybody and thank you forjoining us. everybody and thank you forjoining us. i'd like to hearfirst from every audience member, starting with chris in the corner. we will go round all of you. and if you could each introduce yourself, tell us who you voted for and how you feel about this decision announced yesterday to suspend parliament. my name is chris, and i voted to remain and i ama chris, and i voted to remain and i am a liberal democrat campaign. and what do you think about the suspension? i don't like it at all. it's highly manipulative but that's not to be unexpected from boris. moving on chloe dobbs. not to be unexpected from boris. moving on chloe dobbslj not to be unexpected from boris. moving on chloe dobbs. i am chloe, a conservative party member and i'm moving on chloe dobbs. i am chloe, a conservative party memberand i'm in favour of the prorogation of parliament because the alternative is potentially no deal being taken off the table in law and removing any opportunity we have to squeeze any opportunity we have to squeeze any compromises out of the eu.”

any opportunity we have to squeeze any compromises out of the eu. i am gulam, a memberof any compromises out of the eu. i am gulam, a member of the labour party although i did vote to leave. i wish to remain. the reason i voted to leave was thanks to a pack of lies from borisjohnson leave was thanks to a pack of lies from boris johnson and leave was thanks to a pack of lies from borisjohnson and now i have realised it and what happened yesterday, i am absolutely appalled. i think the british parliament is in the biggest crisis since the second world war. linda ? the biggest crisis since the second world war. linda? ivoted the biggest crisis since the second world war. linda? i voted to leave andi world war. linda? i voted to leave and i think the decision boris johnson made yesterday is brilliant. i'm a bit surprised that he did it. i'm a bit surprised that he did it. i'm still a little bit hesitant to figure out how it's all going to work out but i think it is a bold move and something that needed to be done. stephen? i am steve, a labour party voter, never been a member of any political party but i do normally vote labour. i think boris johnson's actions yesterday were appalling and he's obviously extending it to keep as little time as possible for brexit to be debated. and i want us to

remain. joshua carpenter? i'm a conservative party member and i think it needed to be done. the process has been frustrated for three years and the biggest threat to our democracy is not to have that vote and this will just get it through. i agree with josh, i'm a conservative party memberandl josh, i'm a conservative party member and i wasn't old enough to vote at the referendum but i would have voted remain then, and i would vote leave now. i completely agree it's the prime minister is parotid to do so and he's taken the right decision. i am drusilla summers and a conservative activist and i campaigned with vote leave and i am proroguing parliament. we are well overdue a queen's speech, so if brexit wasn't happening this wouldn't be an issue. it's only because some people don't like brexit that they are using this as an excuse brexit that they are using this as an excuse to have brexit that they are using this as an excuse to have a brexit that they are using this as an excuse to have a problem with it s0 an excuse to have a problem with it so we an excuse to have a problem with it so we should follow the pm's

example. i'm a member of the conservative party and after the decision yesterday i feel that it's not undemocratic it's just not the right way to do that. we have previously had two weeks through queen speech, not five weeks on the timing of it is unscrupulous. we have to understand that those who elected have to deal with the important issue the country is facing and to take their voice away from them speaks about something but i stand by my decision. it's not undemocratic, just the timing is not right. again, i agree that it is a brilliant stroke by boris. nobody else could do it but boris. and if you look at the way the house of commons has gone over the last three years, the remain side, if you can say that, have been throwing every spanner say that, have been throwing every spanner in the works to delay or even stop brexit completely. but if boris had been

there three years ago, we would be out of europe now and trading freely around the world. so, well done, boris, get on with it and let's get out on the 315t. so, well done, boris, get on with it and let's get out on the 31st. and jade? iam and let's get out on the 31st. and jade? i amjade, i am 20 years old andi jade? i amjade, i am 20 years old and i am appalled at what boris johnson has done. as a young person it makes me question why can't political leaders sit down and come together and do what is best for the people. you are members of parliament but you are members for the people first and we voted to leave, so let's sit down, negotiate and let's leave. we don't have to create another disaster in our country. we need to come together and unite. as you sit here watching the politicians, do you all feel that those who you want to see doing what you want to see happening are doing it the right way? what do you think about the way the government is handling it, and what about those who want opposition mps to be

reacting? what would you like to see them too? a vote of no confidence. there should be a vote of no confidence. anybody else? definitely. it's ridiculous. why is it ridiculous? what has he done to warrant a vote of no confidence, he is leaving us two weeks to impede it until the end of the month before we leave and crush out without a deal. opposition mps have been playing the tactics for the last three years. they have been taking over the agenda in parliament, which is absolutely against the normal constitutional precedent. they've been trying to do what they can do. borisjohnson was not elected by the people. he was elected by the members. people elect a person. so why has brexit become

a question. members. people elect a person. so why has brexit become a questionlj think why has brexit become a question.” think this is a good point to bring in hannah white, because what you are throwing out there are the questions around whether this is constitutional or not. can i just say for three years the remain side have been throwing their things at theresa may and her negotiations, and theresa may wasn't strong enough to fight back and take them on, now we to fight back and take them on, now we have got a guy who is prepared to do it, so let's back him and get out of europe once and for all. u nfortu nately of europe once and for all. unfortunately he is a great orator, good speaker and he has told a pack of lies when the referendum campaign was happening. steve, they all told a pack of lies. there were some people who were getting listen to more than others. we are going to go on to the specific issue of trust in a little bit, but let's first try to navigate the question of the constitution, and drusilla making the point that those who have been

trying to thwart no deal has taken edgy decisions themselves. so, how do things like? let's address the issue of what happened yesterday. is it constitutional or not? it is absolutely within the prime minister of the two asked the queen to pi’oi’oque of the two asked the queen to prorogue parliament. it is normal that they sit in sessions when it ends, you have a prorogation. the controversies about the timing of this, because it is happening in the run—up to the 31st of october deadline, but it is certainly within the prime minister's power. let's bring in the mps, tom brake, what do you think about it? i think there will be a court case, possibly more than one court case to establish whether proroguing parliament in the way borisjohnson has proposing is legal or not. but the fundamental issue is that there are a majority of mps in the house of commons who

are opposed to no deal. what boris johnson has done is try to shutdown the views of a majority of members of parliament by ensuring that parliament is not sitting during this critical period when these decisions will be taken. in other countries, when a president or prime minister shuts down there parliament to ram through a proposal, we tend to ram through a proposal, we tend to look at those countries as countries that are dictatorships. this is a dictatorial approach. load of rubbish. the time to discuss a deal or not, the government says, that will come out of the eu summit which is the 17th slash 18th of october. there is that period of time. and of course boris johnson and jacob rees—mogg no it is not sufficient time for the majority of mps in the house of commons, who some on your panel think the fact that majority of mps support a particular issue is not significant,

but i would argue that is what a parliamentary democracy is about. he knows he is closing down the opportunities that we had to try and stop no deal, and the consequences of no deal, the government have set that out in their own report, operation yellowhammer, and this is the baseline assumption. it's not the baseline assumption. it's not the worst case scenario. medicines, fuel and food shortages. that is what the government are predicting in relation to no deal. that was the worst case scenario. no, that was not the worst case scenario. 0ne worst case scenario. no, that was not the worst case scenario. one of the leading civil servants confirmed that that is the base scenario, the scenario they assume will happen with the information to hand, not the worst case scenario. martin, i presume when you are hearing some of the audience saying it is brilliant, thatis the audience saying it is brilliant, that is what you think.” the audience saying it is brilliant, that is what you think. i would like to commend the audience for being so switched on and tuned into brexit and a really balanced audience, so hats off to you. we have

tried to make it as balanced as we can. the liberal democrats are making the fundamental misunderstanding, this is not a debate about what parliament things. this is a debate about what the people thinks. and the point of the matter is, 75% of mps the point of the matter is, 75% of m ps voted the point of the matter is, 75% of mps voted remain, 52% voted to leave and that proves they are out of touch with what people are thinking. the dibble —— the liberal democrats, and there of their attitude to brexit, that message goes down as a message to 17.4 million people, so what happens now is that the tools of government are on the table that are most effective to borisjohnson are being deployed, and if we cannot go through parliament because there has been three years of a concerted effort to derail democracy. you suddenly believe in democracy now it is in your favour. suddenly believe in democracy now it is in yourfavour. what suddenly believe in democracy now it

is in your favour. what has suddenly believe in democracy now it is in yourfavour. what has happened is in yourfavour. what has happened is that boris has put corks and the guns of those who have been plotting over the summer to come back and lay down the legal case and you are not happy about that. to stop no deal which means medicine, fuel and food shortages. no it doesn't. that is the government assessment. we didn't vote to leave with no deal. we didn't vote to leave with any deal. it was not on the ballot. and during the campaign that is not what boris said. during the campaign, the lead campaign was not to leave without a deal. it was norway nigel farage suggested. there were lots of things said. our position now is clear. we would like to leave with a clean break, which by the way, david cameron stated repeatedly as did the government's own white paper, that we government's own white paper, that we could not reach a deal, so we would revert to wto. that should be no surprise to anybody. it has been completely overlooked. this is about

the will of the people and if parliament are singularly unprepared to act on that... i want to bring in the conservative mp, just a moment, i want to bring in kevin, a conservative mpjoining i want to bring in kevin, a conservative mp joining us from another studio. where are you, kevin? i'm in north yorkshire. thanks forjoining us from north yorkshire. do you support the suspension? well, yes, i do. most mps want to leave with a deal, but it's not enough to simply wish something will be. what we need to do is support the prime minister in his negotiation and over the last few weeks we have seen some daylight with the european union moving in our direction, possibly an intention to modify, so that is positive progress because they know we will

leave on the 31st of october. if parliament then decides to extend that deadline, we completely undermined our negotiating position. this only restricts the number of days for parliament to debate by six days for parliament to debate by six days but there is still time for this. so you are supporting it on the basis that it gives the best chance possible for a deal? exactly. and that is what must happen. and what happens if there is no shift in the deal and we are heading for a no—deal brexit? what do you do at that point? the only realistic vehicle parliament can use at this time isa vehicle parliament can use at this time is a vote of no confidence and it can do that next week or beyond the 14th of october, so if parliament doesn't have confidence, it can bring forward a motion of no confidence and can then bring

about a general election. so it has a device, a democratic device to unseat the government, but what we should try and focus on at this point in time is getting a withdrawal agreement that will pass through the house of commons so we can leave the european union with a deal. jenny chapman, the labour shadow brexit minister, there are those democratic devices open to opponents of what the government is doing. how quickly will labour move on those if that is what you want to do? we are deeply opposed, as many others are, from what we have heard, for leaving without a deal and also to the prime minister coming up with this, even though he's pretending it has nothing to do with brexit, nobody is fooled by that. we'll be moving very quickly next week to do whatever we can to prevent it together with others and the many millions of people who agree with us

up millions of people who agree with us up and down the country. i represent a leave seat and i speak to people all the a leave seat and i speak to people allthe time... a leave seat and i speak to people all the time. .. why don't you listen to them? i do listen. if you were listening you wouldn't push this agenda forward. ifi can listening you wouldn't push this agenda forward. if i can finish what i was going to say, many leave voters, it's a mistake to think that all leave voters think that leaving without a deal is a good thing. that is not what all leave voters thing. some do, many don't and i don't acce pt some do, many don't and i don't accept that the 2016 referendum was accept that the 2016 referendum was a mandate to leave without a deal. in the polling that has been done since, during the course of those three years, it indicates that people haven't really shifted very farfrom people haven't really shifted very far from where they were in the referendum, so how can you be sure that those constituents in your area who said they wanted to leave don't actually disagree with you com pletely actually disagree with you completely and want to leave without

a deal. , ithink completely and want to leave without a deal. , i think that is right, that people who voted to leave by and large 12, and i utterly accept that, andl and large 12, and i utterly accept that, and i know this that not all leave voters think leaving without a deal is a good thing and there is no polling that suggests that is the case. mps had the chance, again and again, to vote on a deal and you did not do it. because what we were served up was not do it. because what we were served up was nonsense, not do it. because what we were served up was nonsense, open—ended, didn't tell us where we were going asa didn't tell us where we were going as a country. people who were fundamentally in favour of brexit would not accept that deal, and neither would the labour party or people who wanted to remain. so it didn't really satisfy anybody except the loyalists of theresa may. boris johnson voted against a couple of times, then changed his mind and voted for it, so that deal was never going to get through parliament and did not have widespread public support. all labour want to

do in my opinion is to stop brexit. that is the bottom line. you want to stop brexit. this lady here represents a labour leave seat. she is campaigning to remain in the european union. 5 million who did not vote forjeremy corbyn. they wanted to leave because of the campaign that was lead. the remaining campaign was a wash—out.” was a remain at the time. but the leave campaign was much more aggressive and led by people who you would listen to who were great orators. so you're complaining the campaign was brilliant and that is why they won? we have one more mp to hear from who we've not heard from yet and then we will come onto the issue of trust, so let's hear from

stephen. he isjoining us from dundee for the snp. there is this legal action going on in scotland wherejudges will be legal action going on in scotland where judges will be hearing a judicial review and the snp is clearly not happy about what is going on here. of course not. there is that court case today brought by the snp liberal and labour mps and thatis the snp liberal and labour mps and that is the right thing to do and we will see how it goes but there is a crucial element here. it is a job of parliament and parliamentarians to scrutinise the government. boris johnson told us there will not be a no—deal brexit. it would be the easiest deal we could ever have. but what strikes me is that he does not know what he's doing and his arguments don't stand up to scrutiny. what is striking is that he is arguing about process running away from debate and scrutiny because he doesn't really believe that brexit is good idea. nobody seems to be making the case anymore. we are walking away from trade deals, taking away opportunities

from young people and we are making ourselves poorer. it's notjust my analysis, that is the uk government's analysis. if you're just joining government's analysis. if you're justjoining us were joined government's analysis. if you're justjoining us werejoined in government's analysis. if you're justjoining us were joined in the studio by a group of voters, a mix of people, balanced views, we have worked carefully to choose an audience to give us a balanced position. tom brake you are pointing out there were more conservatives. there are several conservative members here, but we have tried to balance the audience between people who agree with what the prime minister has done and those who don't and it does include a mix of leave and remain, so that is the basis that we have the studio audience on. you want to come in quickly, chris. this is not so much about brexit but about a personality cult, the personality cult of boris. he flip—flops. he is mendacious. he isa he flip—flops. he is mendacious. he is a betrayal of friends. he is only interested in boris. i suspect he may even have a personality disorder. there is nothing

wrong with him, seriously. can i say, more seriously. that was serious. the seriously. that was serious. the serious ministers in his government have said about prorogation, matt hancock, amber rudd, nicky morgan, sajid javid, michael gove, hancock, amber rudd, nicky morgan, sajidjavid, michael gove, have all said that prorogation was the wrong thing to do and even borisjohnson has said it was an arcane procedure, he didn't believe in it and he believed in seeking consensus. well, i'm not sure how they can explain now what they were saying literally a few weeks ago. you've queued up very nicely something, because we've got a montage of some footage of what members of the government have previously said and other conservative politicians about the issue of suspending parliament, so let's ta ke issue of suspending parliament, so let's take a look. there is this idea from some people that to deliver brexit we should suspend our parliamentary democracy. that

we should prorogue parliament. but that goes against everything that those men who waded onto those peaches fought and died for. and i will not have it. suspending, or as the constitutional experts call it, proroguing parliament in order to get no deal through i think would be wrong. proroguing parliament is clearly a mad suggestion. you cannot say you will take that control to parliament and then say by the way, we parliament and then say by the way, we will shut parliament down for a couple of months. the queen's decision cannot be challenged in law, but the prime minister's advice to the queen can, i believe, be challenged in law and ifor one would be prepared to go and seek judicial review to prevent parliament being bypassed.” judicial review to prevent parliament being bypassed. i don't believe that shutting up parliament as you're trying to force something through against the will of parliament would be acceptable in a democracy. i think that would be something that people would find very upsetting and it would make people very

angry. what do you think? you were talking about we were walking away from trade deal, i disagree with you because i think we are trying to create brand—new trade deals, throughout the world, if i can give you... sorry, i mean, we, ijust would like to... 53 countries in the commonwealth and nobody can negotiate with the other 52 without the permission of the european union. i hear what you are saying i would like to get the reaction from the audience to this issue of trust in politicians and when you hear politicians say those things and what happened yesterday. politicians say those things and what happened yesterdaym politicians say those things and what happened yesterday. it is outrageous, i am 20, i am a young person and i have no trust in any of you. why can't you come together, we voted to leave, so you sit down in parliament, you come together and you decide, you have had three yea rs, you decide, you have had three years, labourmp, you you decide, you have had three years, labour mp, you can't say that you disagree, you sit down with your team, with your cabinet and you say 0k, how can we come together, to make this country better? but they can't. we are in

a situation, why are we can't. we are in a situation, why are we battling, what about someone like myself who has no trust in you whatever. that is outrageous. you, you are voting to stay. the people voted to leave. you have to respect that vote. we do not accept the idea that the uk would crash out the eu without a deal. but you have had three years to negotiate that. you had three years. boris johnson, michael gove people like that said the uk was going to get a fantastic deal because the german sold us bmws and the italians... that is not the issue we are facing right now. as the government have set out... you are voted as our mp to voice opinions of people. hold on, let... the government have set out, could i just finish, could yacht not

interrupt please, are you happy with the consequences of no—deal which the consequences of no—deal which the government yes as cent as the first august when this report was published have said the consequences of no—deal are medicine, food and food shortages. we are going round this circles. in terms of where we are, the point was made, that if the opposition mps don't like it, you can get together and you can do something about it. which we will be doing so far. your party refuses to get behind the prospect ofjeremy corbyn being an interim leader. we sat down on monday with jeremy corbyn, with the leader of the snp, with plaid and caroline lucas and we have agreed collectively because of the consequences of no—deal which would lead to a significant drop in our economy for instance, and

risks on the border between northern ireland and ireland as confirmed by senior police off severs we would work together to use a legislative vehicle, to bring forward a law, that would ensure that borisjohnson could not crash us out on 31st october with no deal.” could not crash us out on 31st october with no deal. i want, we have breaking news we have breaking news which is that former transport secretary george young has resigned from the government, in protest at boris johnson's from the government, in protest at borisjohnson's decision to suspend government. he was the government spokesman and whip in the house of lords. in his lettered of resignation he says it risk undermining the role of parliament. he says i am unhappy and length of the prorogation and its motivation, he says the decision suggests mr johnson may not have the confidence of the house for his brexit policy, he denies being part of a remainor plot. kevin, your reaction to that? well, i am sorry about that, george isa

well, i am sorry about that, george is a good man and everybody will have their own view on this. for me, when you ask that question about trust, all those wrotes you gave earlier were about using prorogation, —— quote, to ram through no—deal. this is not what is happening, what this is about is getting a deal, it doesn't stop parliament having a say, but it does give the prime minister breathe space... it curtails parliament have the space to... sorry, can you repeat that. hannah is going to come in with the constitutional position on this. to make it clear the technical position, the difference between just parliament going off on its conference recess, for a couple of weeks and being prorogued is when the house is prorogued any legislation which is under way it fall, it is killed by the fact of prorogation, one reason the government has chosen to prorogue the house is it is seen one of the most the house is it is seen one of the

m ost pote nt the house is it is seen one of the most potent weapons in the hands of opposition and other members who wish to oppose no—deal, is to legislate to prevent it, previously... well done boris. previously people would have thought they had a couple of weeks in september and october to get this through, that stops that happening. this means any attempt next week will be killed at the point' prorogation. for those this parliament who want to block it, is it not going to be a viable option it is very tight timing to get it through. in the, we don't know, from next week in the following week, because we haven't heard exactly when the date of prorogation would be. it is tight to get the legislation, to time to do the legislation, to time to do the legislation to pass it through the commons an lord's. jenny chapman, is it worth that, does that remain labour's referred option or is it just, there is no point going down that route now, it has to be a vote of no defend.. we will do whatever

it takes and we will look at legislation next week, together with other people in other parties, as contributors have suggested we could. this comes down to the fact that boris, borisjohnson is saying he is doing something for one purpose and it is for something else. that is fundamentally destructive of trust in politics, when your prime minister behaves like that, no wonder people are getting angry, and suspicious and they are turning their backs on political processes and people can say what they like to me about my views on brexit, and my, what i do and what the labour party does, we are being transparent and honest and straightforward about it. we are not pretending to do... what is your position on brexit? let us be transparent now. tell the voters. what is your position on brexit. brexit. if you take a breath. i have been waiting for three years. we

would have supported a deal that would have supported a deal that would have supported a deal that would have been a good dealfor this country that hasn't been forthcoming and we are in the situation now where we don't think it is going to bea where we don't think it is going to be a deal, and given we are against leaving without a deal, we think think we need the consent testify country about what do next. a second referendum. you have had three years when you haven't voted for a deal, and now when it is no—deal, it is a prospect that might happen, you don't want that either, and you still haven't said what you want other than another people's vote. we had a people's vote, how many times do you want one? let her answer. i would like to answer. i am not somebody who has thought that another vote should be a good idea. iam against another vote should be a good idea. i am against it and my reasons for being against it still stand. however, i have to confront the reality of where we are which is we don't have a deal with the eu that will get through parliament. leaving

without a deal... the reason it is not getting through is you. and borisjohnson voting not getting through is you. and boris johnson voting against the prime minister's deal. he voted for in the end. just quickly finish what you in the end. just quickly finish what you were in the end. just quickly finish what you were saying then i wanted to bring in some comments because loads of people at home are trying to join the debate. my point is leaving without a deal would be damaging to particularly to my constituency, who work in industry and manufacture, so iam work in industry and manufacture, so i am never going to vote for that. more people want a no—deal than want jeremy corbyn as prime minister. that is the reason... i am going to read comments out. phil, how amusings, mps plot and scheme to undermine the government. as soon as the government plays them at their own game it is an outrage. zoe, what a ridiculous time to suspend particle. i don't strongly believe we particle. i don't strongly believe we should leave the eu but if a second referendum is out of the question, then remaining weeks should be there for debate. desmond

what is the problem with suspending parliament? debate in parliament has been exhausted, time to walk away. john on twitter, those who say they are defending our democracy in europe are undermining our democracy back at home. this will go down as a dark day in uk history. and, anonymous. iam dark day in uk history. and, anonymous. i am glad dark day in uk history. and, anonymous. iam glad bombe dark day in uk history. and, anonymous. i am glad bombe has decided to prorogue parliament. politicians have tried to thwart our democratic right to leave. tha nkfully democratic right to leave. thankfully just remain supporters are unhappy with this. on twitter somebody said anyone mentions democsai has to remember we have a parliamentary democracy, proroguing parliamentary democracy, proroguing parliament is not democratic. julie says over the moon boris is stopping parliament blocking brexit. they have been blocking democracy. that is what democracy mean, doing what the people want. well done boris.

helen, hannah, quickly, then from you. we go into a process where there are legal challenge, so we are, we there are legal challenge, so we are, we are there are legal challenge, so we are, we are still, it is unclear what the days and weeks ahead will hold. yes, i think the three main things we are likely to see now are attem pts things we are likely to see now are atte m pts to things we are likely to see now are attempts to pass legislation to tie the government's hands to prevent a no—deal exit, legal challenges, to the fact of prorogation and whether the fact of prorogation and whether the advice given by the prime minister to the queen is legal, and possibly a no—deal voke —— no confidence vote. they look uncertain but we have found ourself in a different situation today that we thought we were going to be in at the end of last week. we have to wait eh and see. thank you for coming in airing your views, and, let us check in now with norman smith. very strong feelings on both sides what are the next steps going to

be? we are now looking at four frantic day, starting next tuesday, when mr johnson's point also try and push through legislation to in effect outlaw no—deal. it is not mission impossible but it is getting close to that, because they will be doing s0 to that, because they will be doing so in the face of a blizzard of obstruction and opposition, from borisjohnson obstruction and opposition, from boris johnson and his obstruction and opposition, from borisjohnson and his supporters to make it as difficult as possible, so you can expect for example brexit backing peers in the house of lords, to talk on and on and on on and on, to talk on and on and on on and on, to try and run out of time, so it is going to be extraordinarily difficult to pass this legislation, which may be the last chance mr johnson's opponents get to actually block no—deal. however, they have in their favour, it would seem, the speaker, who has pretty much come out swinging in behind the rebels, to say that it is

an outrage what mr johnson is doing and we are beginning to see signs of disquite on the tory bench, we learned of the resignation of lord young, a form former transport secretary, leader of the house who held a position the house of lords for the government as a government spokesman and whip. he says can't put up with prorogation, he believes it fundamentally undermines the role of parliament, s0 undermines the role of parliament, so he is quitting. we have seen some of mrs may's key backers in her former cabinet, figures like philip hammond, this morning david lidington, greg clark, all coming out opposing this idea of proroguing parliament, so we are heading for an almighty tussle over those frantic four day, and we don't know how it is going to end, but i think one thing is becoming clear, what ever happens, we do now seem to be

heading pretty remorselessly to a general election, because if mr johnson's opponents succeed if passing legislation, he is notjust going to throw up almighty tussle over those frantic four day, and we don't know how it is going to end, but i think one thing is becoming clear, what ever happens, we do now seem to be heading pretty remorselessly to a general election, because if mrjohnson's opponents succeed if passing legislation, he is not just succeed if passing legislation, he is notjust going to throw up his hands and say "i give in" it seems like he will say they are stopping me implementing my brexit strategy, trying to get the eu to bling so i will call a general election. alternatively if the rebels lose, well they have no other option but to table a confidence motion and to bring the government down, so you get the sense we are now moving with increasing velocity towards another general election. thank you very much normal. at 4.16am onjune 7th, heather pring received the worst phone call of her life. she was told her 20—year—old son, freddie, had died afterfalling from the second floor balcony of a hotel. he had travelled to magaluf on a work trip after winning a company incentive scheme, but died on the first night of his stay. heather now wants to warn other holiday—makers about the

dangers of balconies. why is it important to speak in public about this for you? losing a child, especially in these circumstances, is the most horrific experience ever, and never wish anyone to ever have to experience this. so i feel it is important, as a mother, to raise awareness, of safety abroad, about looking after each other and balcony safety. you know, everyone thinks that they are exempt from this situation, the fa ct are exempt from this situation, the fact is these accidents are

happening, a lot, and they are accident, tragic accidents. often people think it comes from young people think it comes from young people mucked around, unfortunately, think a good 75% of these accidents that happen when people are alone. so tell us what happened then. to freddie, on the night that he sadly died. freddie was out with his work collea g u es died. freddie was out with his work colleagues and gradually, people returned to the hotel and freddie decided to stay out with some other colleagues. his work colleagues who were sharing a room had returned, and they were asleep. sleep. freddie returned to his room and had started to get undressed, and had gone out on the his balcony, we don't know, we on the his balcony, we don't know, we believe he tripped orfell asleep, and somehow fell over the balcony and died

instantly. and i mentioned that awful moment for you in the early hours of the morning when you got the phone call. it must have been just awful. your son in another country, you get a phone call like that, what did you do? my initial reaction was to put down the phone. i didn't believe the phone call. because obviously the person who was calling was clearly very distressed. they had just lost a work colleague, and i... it was com plete a work colleague, and i... it was complete disbelief, but i completely grilled the colleague, i wanted his name, i wanted the name of the hotel, unfortunately no—one could give me answers hotel, unfortunately no—one could give me answers s0 hotel, unfortunately no—one could give me answers so my hotel, unfortunately no—one could give me answers so my daughter, between us we phoned the hotel, to confirm if there had been an accident, and then we phoned the magaluf police, unfortunately nobody

could confirm my son's death, which is quite horrific because you actually believe you're going to get actually believe you're going to get a knock on the door from the police, telling you, because that's what we're led to believe happens, and without us leaving that telephone number, it may have been seven more hours before we were really wear and could confirm that our son had died. what was freddie like? freddie, he has this most amazing smile that lit up has this most amazing smile that lit up the room for everyone. he is known for his smile. he was extremely passionate, ha rd—working, loyal man, who. .. extremely passionate, ha rd—working, loyal man, who... he worked so hard to get to bristol, for thisjob loyal man, who... he worked so hard to get to bristol, for this job and he was so proud he'd become a working professional. he was in the first in the office, last out of the office and his life was just about

to ta ke office and his life was just about to take off. he was an amazing rugby player, he was he was extreme less well—respected across the county for his rugby and he fought to the end for everything he did. his for everything he did. h is loyalty for everything he did. his loyalty to his family and friends was to be commended. and you don't want his death to be in vain, you said about the importance to you of getting a message out there, that safety abroad is something that everybody needs to think about. people should look out for each other, support each other, what would your message be to young people, to anybody, because obviously, you know, people go on trips, all the time and don't think about the potential risks. yes, andi think about the potential risks. yes, and i think, the thing is, this applies to everybody, to any age. this applies the people

with young families, with balcony safety. loads of children sleepwalk. adults sleepwalk, so that awareness of definitely locking the balcony door, not letting children out on the balcony unattended and for young people going out, who are socialising, top stay together. don't leave people alone, be wear of your environment all the time. and your environment all the time. and you have set up a memorial fund for your son, tell us about that. yeah. the memorialfund your son, tell us about that. yeah. the memorial fund was set up because very quickly after freddie's death, we very quickly after freddie's death, we became aware of how many lives that freddie had positively impacted, in so many different ways but especially in sporting activities he was very supportive at helping younger children, they all looked up to him at

the rugby club, all the young children, they... they, it was very family orientated. 0rientated. but hearing how many lives he impacted sports wise, we felt as a family why not set up a fund that can help promote and get people with sports development and coaching, because without freddie having a privileged background he wouldn't have been able do all the events he did sporting and he travelled to new zealand, he was lucky with that with his rugby. so if we can raise funds to help support adults and children, to actually reach for their goals and their dreams, then, freddie would have loved that, because he admired anybody who fought hard and he worked extremely hard for his goals and dreams and he hasjust reached them. we kneel is the best way to carry on his legacy. heather, thank you for sharing your memories of

freddie who sounds like he was wonderful. thank you. thank you. we are hearing that ruth david has resigned. it was expected #269sit was reported yesterday she was expected to resign. we can see there is alert and a tweet, she said it has been the privilege of my life to serve as scottish tory leader this morning i wrote the chairman to tender my resignation, there she has put on twitter a copy of that letter and the detail of that will obviously be important, because it was being discussed yesterday, that it is, it is a mix of reason, it is political reason, personal reasons because she became a mother not very long ago and also not seeing eye to eye with borisjohnson, so we will get more political reaction to

that resignation, which was expected but not nonetheless it will be a big blow to the conservative party. the leader of the scottish conservatives who had seen electoral success under her has announced she is leaving that position. a new drama is set to tell the true story of detective superintendent steve fulcher who breached police procedure to catch a double killer — a decision that ultimately cost him his career and reputation. taxi driver christopher halliwell is currently serving a life sentence for the murders of sian 0'callaghan and becky godden—edwards. the two girls were killed eight years apart but when ds fulcher managed to track down then secure a confession from halliwell, he hadn't been cautioned or offered a solicitor. that led to both the trials nearly collapsing and the story is now being played out in a six part itv drama. let's take a quick look at one of the scenes.

right, i want the dogs out, i want the search initially concentrated on the entrances and exits to sevenoak forest, i want the route all the way to sian's address searched again, concentrating on ditches, alleyway, anywhere she may have crawled, if she was involved in a traffic accident. i want house to house along the route, not forgetting sheds and outhouses, i want these posters put up tonight. phone rings sorry, got to take this. yes sir. i've heard you want to set a force helicopter up. that is a short clip from the drama. we're talking now to liam 0'callaghan, sian's brother, who we just saw being played in that scene, and the writer and executive producerjeff pope. there has been a lot going on this morning. liam, you are sian

o'callaghan's brother, what is it like, watching what happened to your family, and what continues obviously, to impact yourfamily being portrayed in a drama like that? yes, firstly very surreal. obviously when jeff originally approached us about the show, and him looking to bring out a six parter, obviously we had concerns, reservations, but the level of detail and accuracy and the fact that from our perspective as a family we felt there was a need for this story to be told. we felt we were in capable hands, but it is still strange to see somebody obviously playing yourself, and obviously playing yourself, and obviously you know, taking you back toa time obviously you know, taking you back to a time and a place which was very difficult, so, yeah, it's quite surreal. why did you decide jeff, to

tell this story. rarely you get a story that is a state of the nation piece, 35 years ago there was a piece, 35 years ago there was a piece of legislation called pace which was brought in to stop the excesses which was brought in to stop the excesses of the police in getting confessions by foul means as opposed to fair. and it means that you know, suspects have the right to a solicitor, have a right to be cautioned and taken to a police station and so on. now, i, i suppose the question this drama asks is 35 years ago, did those people, did the people that brought that law into force, imagine that now, almost all suggest expects go no commend. no commend, no commend, no commend. what's your name, no commend. where do you live? no commend. that is the result of that legislation, this is about a police officer who was faced with a suspects who he suggs suspected, he knew that he was

responsible for sian's disappearance, and he did not want to read the caution to him, which begins with you have the right to remain silent because he didn't want him to be silent. he wanted to know where sian was. i think the drama is about how do we want our police to behave, when they are in circumstances like that. liam, have you spoken to steve fulcher over the yea rs you spoken to steve fulcher over the years about that moment? well, we haven't had continual conversations, but from our perspective, we are very supportive of his actions and what he, he did. because ultimately, he did what you want a senior police officer do in that situation, and thatis officer do in that situation, and that is to try every means possible, to try and find, to find missing loved one, find my sister and we feel he did that, and it's a shame that obviously in a court

of law it was deemed that it wasn't, you know, it wasn't legally acceptable. another element that will come through strongly in the drama is the extraordinary, an awful coincidence of the proximity of your mother living next door, effectively to becky godden's mother. it is a story with so many strands and very poignant. yes, it is still sort of sits a bit uneasy with us as a family, that which were so close proximity wise. however, it didn't have any direct correlation really. they were close physically but grieved in different ways. and that comes through in the drama. thank you both. it starts on monday at 9pm on itv. thank you very much for your company. bbc news room live coming up company. bbc news room live coming up next with plenty more on the politics. have a good

day. bye good morning. there is a cool ever breezier feel to our weather through the day today. in fact for some of us the day today. in fact for some of us it is windy, that is through parts of northern ireland and western scotland, where we could see gusts of 40—50mph. while there are some showers around, they may merge together to form longer spells but should fragment as the day goes on, in england and wales it a drier story, the chance of one or o two showers in the west, they will be except sun rather than the rule. temperatures round about average. as we temperatures round about average. as we head into tonight, that zone through northern ireland and up into scotla nd through northern ireland and up into scotland will see the rain step up a gear, i will turn heavier and more persistent. breezier elsewhere, cloudier out to the west with clear spells down the south and the east, and milder than it was last night. and that rain really sets in through friday, through northern ireland,

and up into parts of scotland. the met office has issued a yellow warn, we met office has issued a yellow warn, we could see a lot of rainfall in a short amount of time. elsewhere, fine, dry and feeling warm. you're watching bbc newsroom live — it's11am and these are the main stories this morning. the leader of the scottish conservatives, ruth davidson, hasjust announced her resignation —

it comes the day after the government's decision to suspend parliament. we're expecting to hear from ruth davidson in the next few minutes. in her resignation letter she said it had been ‘the privilege of my life to serve as the leader of the scottish conservative and unionist party.‘ a government whip, lord young, has also resigned in the last half hour, saying shutting parliament down risks fundamentally undermining it. but cabinet ministers reject claims the move is an attempt to stop mps from debating brexit or preventing a no—deal exit. this is completely constitutional, and proper, there is going to be lots of time to debate before 31st october. the home secretary, priti patel, will meet her french counterpart in paris today — to discuss how to curb the rise in illegal migrant crossings to the uk by boat. at least 25 people have been killed in a firebomb attack on a nightclub in mexico. several more are seriously hurt. and the survival of bolton wanderers is secured after football ventures