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that was so much fun. really enjoyed that. i hadn‘t done this for so many years, so to get out on the water are, it‘s brilliant. you're watching bbc newsroom live if you spend pretty much withjoanna gosling in westminster, all your waking day based in a wheelchair, which is endlessly the headlines at 11: tedious, i‘ll never sugar—coat it, that‘s a lovely independent feeling. borisjohnson says a no—deal brexit would be a "failure", as he meets with the irish prime minister, leo varadkar, in dublin. he isjust he is just indomitable, he isjust indomitable, isn‘t he? we yes, of course, we could do it, love frank. the uk could certainly get through it but be in no doubt, now it‘s time for a that outcome would be look at the weather. a failure of statecraft for which we would all be responsible. often at this time of year, you can the contentious irish backstop is top of the agenda this morning. get atlantic storms influencing the leo varadkar warned that a no—deal brexit would affect the friendship weather across the uk. that is what is going to happen. this is the between the two nations. re m na nts of is going to happen. this is the remnants of hurricane dorian. by the time it moves across the cooler waters of the atlantic, just an area there is no such thing as a clean break orjust getting it done. of low pressure. ahead of it, we have a weathering at the moment that rather, we will just producing some rain. it is starting
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move onto a new phase. to wea ke n producing some rain. it is starting to weaken a little, but i will still if there is no deal it will cause severe disruption for british be some intense thundery downpours and irish people alike. across the south—west and parts of wales. so here we could see some here in westminster, heavy rain in a short space of time. mps are to vote again today on holding a snap general election — slowly brightening up this afternoon with the prime minister looking set across the northern isles. cloudy to face a second defeat. skies and bits and pieces of showery rain. as not feeling very warm with travel disruption for hundreds of thousands of british airways passengers, as pilots go on strike. it, between 13 and 16 celsius. a it's the biggest walk—out disappointing feel to the afternoon. the rain will tend to ease in ba's history. overnight, we do a lot of cloud. and with the moisture from the rain, i'm carrie gracie with the rest there can be patchy mist and fog forming towards dawn. and we will of today's headlines. see a chilly start in some places, more than 120 firefighters have been tackling a major blaze at a block single figures quite widely. it will of flats in south west london. bea single figures quite widely. it will residents say they're be a cloudy and murky start. the mist and fog will thin and break, relieved they got out alive. then we will see brighter skies into then we will see brighter skies into the afternoon. by the end of the i'm just thankful we got day, the winds are strengthening, the family out, all of us out the rain arrives, and this is the and everyone is safe. re m na nts of whatever is in there, the rain arrives, and this is the remnants of hurricane dorian. there we will have to just get will be wet and windy weather up back somehow, some way, into the north west. highest values but as long as we are safe, i suppose. of 19 celsius. the storm will and coming up, little mix'sjesy nelson calls for a crackdown on online continue to push its way across the country. a deep area of low trolls, as she reveals she tried
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to take her own life pressure, there will be strong following cyberbullying. winds, but nothing particularly unusualfor winds, but nothing particularly unusual for this winds, but nothing particularly unusualfor this time winds, but nothing particularly unusual for this time of year. it will bring heavy rain across scotla nd will bring heavy rain across scotland and northern ireland, then a band if the week of showery rain will ease its way across england and wales. bright and breezy behind. temperatures if anything on the up as we go through the middle part of the week. so 15 to 21 celsius the high. as we move from wednesday to thursday, another ex—tropical storm will push more humid airfrom the south. so it will bring rain. a the irish prime minister has warned borisjohnson that a no—deal different feel to the weather towards the end of the week, turning brexit would affect ireland's future relationship with britain. leo varadkar told mrjohnson a little one and a little drier he would not accept a promise across england and wales. there will in place of a legal guarantee be some rain, mostly into northern there would be no return to a hard border with northern ireland. ireland and western scotland. perhaps into northern england and the far north of wales. further mrjohnson said he would south with the southerly wind, we overwhelmingly prefer to find agreement and believed it could be will see temperatures peaking at 23 reached by the middle of october. celsius. so a real changeable week let's have a look at what we're expecting to happen today. of weather ahead. we stopped off as i've mentioned, cool and wet and windy at times, but boris johnson has met his irish counterpart it will get warmer and drier a leo varadkar this morning. they held discussions on brexit, little later.
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in particular the contentious issue of the irish backstop. later today a bill tabled by the labour mp hilary benn which would require the prime minister to seek an extension to the brexit deadline of 31st october if a deal is not reached, is expected to become law. also today in the commons, the government is expected to face another defeat when it asks mps to agree to a snap election for a second time. the prime minister is in dublin for his first face—to—face meeting with leo varadkar since he entered downing street injuly. mr va radkar says ireland wants to help the uk but he will not agree to the replacement of the legal guarantee of the backstop with just a promise to keep the border open. in my view, the story of brexit won't end if the united kingdom ends the european union on the 31st of october or even the 31st of january. javid. there is no such thing as a clean break orjust getting it done. rather, we will just move on to a new phase.
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if there is no deal, it will cause severe disruption for british and irish people alike. not so much on the continent. whatever happens, we'll have to get back to the negotiating table quite quickly. when we do, the first items on the agenda will be citizens‘ rights, the financial settlement and the irish border. all issues we had resolved in the withdrawal agreement made with your predecessor, an agreement made in good faith by 28 governments. parliament will shut down after the close of business today — but if there is a deal — as the government suspends and i think it is possible — we will enter talks on a future proceedings till mid—october. it comes as borisjohnson tells relationship agreement leo varadkar he would "overwhelmingly prefer" to find between the eu and the uk. it's going to be very tough an agreement with the eu. and we will have to deal with issues like tariffs, fishing rights, product standards, state aid, and it will then have yes, of course, we could do it, the to be ratified by 31 parliaments. uk could certainly get through it. prime minister, negotiating ftas with the eu and the us and securing their ratification but be in no doubt, in less than three years that outcome would be i think is going to be a failure of statecraft for which we would a herculean task for you. but we do want to be your all be responsible.
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friend and your ally, your athena in doing so. there is no such thing as a clean break, orjust getting it done. rather we willjust and i think the manner in which you leave the european union will determine move on to a new phase. whether that is possible. if there is no deal, i am ready to listen to any constructive ways in which we can it will cause severe disruption achieve our agreed goals and resolve for british and irish people alike. the current impasse, but what we cannot do and will not do — and i know you understand this — is agree to the replacement of a legal guarantee with a promise. borisjohnson also spoke and said he does want a brexit deal and failure to get one would be a failure of statecraft. i want to find a deal. i want to get a deal. like you, i've look carefully at no deal and assessed
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its consequences, both for our country and yours. of course we could do it and get through it but be in no doubt, that outcome would be a failure of statecraft for which we would all be responsible and so for the sake of business, of farmers and for millions of ordinary people who are now counting on us to use our imagination and creativity to get this done, i want you to know i overwhelmingly would prefer to find an agreement. our assistant political editor norman smith is with me now. norman, leo varadkar saying he wants ireland to be athena to boris johnson's hercules, athena who helped hercules accomplish what seemed like an impossible task, what isa seemed like an impossible task, what is a likelihood of a breakthrough?
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not great, i don't think. both men said there will not be one today but i thought the language and arguments we heard from the taoiseach were pretty robust, saying no deal will be damaging and there is no such thing as a clean break, no proposals have been put on the table by the british government and britain faces a herculean task if it's going to get a trade deal, the manner of our departure will shape relations between the two countries for generations. even from the journalist i thought borisjohnson got quite a hard time, being tackled over his use of language, the phrase do ordie, in over his use of language, the phrase do or die, in the context of the northern ireland border, is that appropriate language? refusing to a nswer appropriate language? refusing to answer when asked what are the proposals putting on the table, saying it would be wrong to set them out. i thought he got quite a hard time but it was interesting we got what more focus on the idea of a
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deal, today slight gear change from borisjohnson deal, today slight gear change from boris johnson perhaps in deal, today slight gear change from borisjohnson perhaps in response to the criticism of the likes of amber rudd, who said there are no proposals, it is a sham, boris johnson clear that saying, i want a deal, it's my overwhelming preference to get a deal. the problem is we are now so late in the day, he seems to have closed off the obvious route to a deal, some variation of theresa may's agreement, so it's very hard to see how he can secure an agreement in the little time left. backin the little time left. back in westminster, there will be another vote on a general election and also potentially the prorogation of parliament later today which will mean nothing for five weeks here. all the options the prime minister has got seemed to be being closed down. he looks like he's going to be thwarted in trying to trigger an election, he's lost his battle to
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avert no deal legislation, he lost control of the timetable as well. by introducing the pro—roguish and of parliament from tonight there is no time to try again with the legislation and the latest idea that has been mooted of him writing a second letter to the eu if he has to ask for an extension in effect saying i don't really want one, we've had various legal eagles saying that would not have any standing in law. that option is beginning to look as though it's been closed down. by far the easiest way out of this for borisjohnson is to get a deal but the problem is he seems to have closed down the scope by saying the backstop has to go and we heard from leo varadkar this morning saying the backstop has to stay. not easy to see how this will end happily. as the government's position still it will push the law as far as it can on no deal or do you get a sense
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from downing street they are taking that legal advice at face value? i think it is twin tracks. if you can geta i think it is twin tracks. if you can get a deal he could sell he would do that but that looks difficult because if he comes back with an ink that looks remotely like theresa may's deal has a brexiteers will devour him. the only other option is a body swerve the law which is why they basically came up with the idea of saying to the eu, you really don't want to keep us in the eu, unhelpful, obstructive, noisy, you want the grid offers, in the hope the eu or think what is the point of keeping borisjohnson in the eu if he is going to behave badly in make our life a misery, lets get rid of him. the problem is the law may stop him from doing that because there seems to be an argument he will be expected to make the case for an extension, not simply write a letter asking for one. that second vote on a general
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election, is there no chance of an election, is there no chance of an election before the 31st of october? i would say no. the opposition parties are hanging together, one of the remarkable things about boris johnson's premiership, this disparate band of people who all wa nt disparate band of people who all want different things working together. today they are also going together. today they are also going to try to add to the pressure on borisjohnson by to try to add to the pressure on boris johnson by trying to to try to add to the pressure on borisjohnson by trying to use parliamentary procedure, an emergency debate, to force him to publish what is called the yellowhammer paper, the report on no deal preparations that suggest that there will be shortage of food, fuel and medicines and also get him to publish his detailed advice on the prorogation of parliament. he really has lost control of the agenda and parliament is driving a lot of it now. just hearing that richard benyon has decided to step down as mp for
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newbury. one of the mps had the whip withdrawn. we've seen a fairly steady trickle of mps who have decided the tory party is changing out of all recognition and they don't want to hang around. others seem to be thinking they can stand as independents and maybe it will seek the rebirth of quite a chunky block of independence. we heard from margotjames, of independence. we heard from margot james, another one who was saying she would like a new prime minister, someone who is less extreme than boris johnson minister, someone who is less extreme than borisjohnson orjeremy corbyn, she floated the idea of serving underjo swinson. lots of ideas kicking around amongst those who have been deselected, some will pack it in, others who think there are still in a way to go and they could be some middle ground beginning to form. on prospect of a deal on the talk being all ireland solution may be possible if there was to be north and south following the same rules on agriculture and food, is that they way around it, it has that been
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discussed before because it sounds like an obvious solution. it's something borisjohnson has picked up on and told mps about, the idea of a single market on the island of ireland for agri— food. the problem is it only makes up 30% of the trade so you've still got 70% that you would have to have some other way to avoid cross checks. borisjohnson other way to avoid cross checks. boris johnson fought a trusty trader scheme or electronic tracking but that does not get you around the dup who do not like it because that would mean a border between northern ireland and the rest of the uk. i'm not sure it is a key that will unlock the backstop problem. norman, thank you. let's go to brighton, where the general secretary of the trades union congress, frances o'grady, is addressing members. welcome every single one of them. this movement is growing, there is
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strength in numbers and we can win and believe you me, we intend to. so, since the eu referendum just three years ago, david cameron walked out, theresa may was pushed out, and the borisjohnson, well, he just strolls on end. we have a prime minister supposedly for the whole of the uk chosen by a tory party membership of a fraction of the size of brighton. only somewhat older, somewhat whiter and without doubt a whole lot richer. borisjohnson faced just one day in parliament before he announced he would shut it down. let's remember that this is
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the 200th anniversary of peterloo when working class people put their lives on the line to win representation for people like us. let me remind borisjohnson, parliament does not belong to you, oi’ parliament does not belong to you, or you rich mates, parliament belongs to the people. for us. borisjohnson, i boris johnson, i think borisjohnson, i think he is used to getting his own way, and if people don't do what he wants he calls them chicken. that is a bit rich from a lame duck. in any case, he is the coward, he is the one running scared of parliament and he is the one running up the white flag. he surrendered to the dup, he
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surrendered to the dup, he surrendered to the brexit party and now he is ready to surrender our nhs to donald trump. now the choice is clear. either we win our vision of the future or the hard right when there is. because for the hard right of the tory party, brexit was always a political project to leave the eu, yes, but also to radically reshape this country as a low tax, no rights, free market economy. a cold, ha rd rights, free market economy. a cold, hard place with no compassion, no helping in hard times and everyone for themselves. they want to smash taxes for the wealthy, attack safeguards for our welfare and the insults us, saying british workers are the laziest in the world. these are the laziest in the world. these
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are the laziest in the world. these are the self—styled new bad boys of the tory party. they think they are westminster‘s answer to the sex pistols. but, in truth, they are just the bully boys of the british elite. look at the special advisers who have moved into downing street. like dominic cummings. boris johnson's right—hand man. a man who thinks he is a genius. to be fair, sisters, in my time i've met a few of those. the usually sober up. in this case, dominic cummings‘s politics belong to the gutter. i wa nt to politics belong to the gutter. i want to tell you something he said about the campaign to leave the eu, and i'm quoting him directly. immigration was a baseball bat that needed picking up at the right time
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and in the right way. whichever way you voted in the referendum, i know you voted in the referendum, i know you will agree that is disgusting. it defies our common humanity, it defies our common decency. it tells us defies our common decency. it tells us everything we need to know about the moral vacuum at the heart of number ten. it is why we can't trust them on brexit. i will say this, when i hear people complain that what has gone wrong with britain is brexit, i say the vote to leave the eu isn't the cause of what has gone wrong, it is a symptom of what has gone wrong. those who think we can just turn back the clock, get back to business as usual, i say think again. we cannot sort out brexit
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u nless we again. we cannot sort out brexit unless we rebuild britain. rebuild goods working class jobs, unless we rebuild britain. rebuild goods working classjobs, rebuild public services, homes and communities, and rebuild our democracy, too. one reason we are in this mess is because when the bankers crashed the economy, working families paid the price. greed and inequality ran riot, while wages and public services were cut to the bone. this country is wasting our best skills and talent. many working—class people feel ignored, shut out from opportunities. it's ha rd to shut out from opportunities. it's hard to rise by an graft and talent alone, the system is rigged from the start. we you come from, what your pa rents start. we you come from, what your parents do, your accent, which school you went to, if you are from
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a working—class family, the odds are stacked against you. let's be honest, britain is still blighted by old—fashioned snobbery, too. inflated egos and a sense of entitlement. just picture, go back and picture jacob rees—mogg, treating the government front bench like it is his own living room sofa. when he supposed to be there to work and to serve. applause. when i talk about the working class iam not when i talk about the working class i am not harking back to some kind of old hovis advert, some people to think working class always means white and male. but today's working class looks like modern britain, is likely to work in an office as a
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factory, to be a care assistant as a worker, and to wear a hijab as a football shirt or quite possibly both. it's not just football shirt or quite possibly both. it's notjust the working class that look different, britain is run by a new oligarchy who run hedge funds, buy property, sale data, they resent playing by the rules. they don't want to protect workers are the planet and they certainly don't like paying their fairshare of certainly don't like paying their fair share of tax. this is not a lwa ys fair share of tax. this is not always about which class people come from, it is about which class they are fighting for. applause. iam applause. i am talking about the likes ofjim ratcliffe. he used to be the uk's richest man until he had billions of
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reasons to move to monaco. james dyson, who now owns more acres of land than the queen. and multimillionaire tim martin of wetherspoons. who claims he is being so generous with the price of beer. but is so tightfisted he refuses to pay his staff of the living wage. applause. this isn't about the politics of envy, its about the politics of justice. because workers create the wealth and workers should get a fair share of it. in britain today, too often it is a case of who you know and not what you know. unpaid internships, unpaid work trials, and the vocational route is still look down on as second—best. even if you
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go to university, even if you got it top class degree, it's no guarantee compared to friends from better off backgrounds who are much more likely to end up —— you are much more likely to end up in a lower paid job lumped with a lifetime of student debt. the massive gap between those at the top and everyone else has reshaped british society. after all, doing well at school or college does not stop you ending up being on a zero—hours contract. working hard does not stop your boss watching you like big brother. too often, promotion means bags more responsibility but precious little extra pay. remember back in the day when new labour proclaimed we are all middle class now? how times change because today we are all
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working class now. applause. we should be proud of ourselves, we are the backbone of britain, who build the houses, drive the lorries, stacked the shelves don't wash and feed our older neighbours, teach our children, deliver our babies, cook, clea n, children, deliver our babies, cook, clean, wash and make the tea. without us there is no nhs, no schools, no shopping, no culture or entertainment, no infrastructure, no transport, the services we rely on would grind to a halt. and we are ambitious for change. a new deal, a fair deal. i ambitious for change. a new deal, a fairdeal. iam ambitious for change. a new deal, a fair deal. iam proud ambitious for change. a new deal, a fair deal. i am proud that over the yea rs fair deal. i am proud that over the years this movement campaign to outlaw discrimination against women, disabled and black workers, older workers, young workers and lgbt workers, young workers and lgbt
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workers, too. those rights matter. notjust to individuals, but as a foundation that unions can build on. let's pay tribute to those claudius women of glasgow, the cleaners, the cooks, the nursery workers... for us. thanks to the union, their courage, thanks to their strike they have finally won equal pay. there is more to do so today i want to issue a challenge to politicians. it's high time we outlaw discrimination against working—class people. let's change the law and stamp out class prejudice once and for all. let me be clear. we all know class justice isn't just about the law, it be clear. we all know class justice isn'tjust about the law, it runs much, much deeper than that. long before brexit, for many working
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people, the world was harsh, and we we re people, the world was harsh, and we were already in the grip of a vicious austerity, a political choice that caused untold hardship and heartbreak. that's why it's so important to rule out a no—deal brexit. as we saw after the financial crash, economic shocks a lwa ys financial crash, economic shocks always hit our people first and ha rd est. always hit our people first and hardest. we know what recessions mean for ourjobs hardest. we know what recessions mean for our jobs and hardest. we know what recessions mean for ourjobs and their industries, we know what happens to mental health, crime and communities and we know that those scars last generations. and now we also know just how bad the alternatives can be. yes, i am talking about donald trump. after brexit, he promised us a special relationship. yeah, like a dog and a lamp post have a special
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relationship. applause. the president owes favours to his friends in big pharmaceuticals, they wa nt friends in big pharmaceuticals, they want health care in the uk turned into a free market and he wants a deal that would drive up the price of medicines. not so much a trade deal more like a protection racket. with secret courts where corporations hold the nhs to ransom. let's be clear, if it takes the last breath in our bodies we will defend our precious health service, we will do whatever it takes to protect staff and patients, donald trump, ta ke staff and patients, donald trump, take your tiny hands of our nhs. applause. it didn't have to be like this. after the eu referendum result need tuc tried to find a way through that
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would help bring the country back together. we set out our priorities for a deal, protecting rights, jobs, peace in ireland, our bottom line was workers must not pay the price. as each day passes, it's clear boris johnson never wanted compromise. he never wanted a deal. you will do whatever it takes to get his own way and he thinks he is above the law. the prime minister acts like he is the clown prince of downing street. but the last thing we need is bojo the clown in charge. brexit is not a game. what happens next matters to people's real lives and the responsibility for this mess sits squarely on the prime minister's shoulders. as we live through this...
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our correspondent... our correspondent simon gompertz was listening to that speech in brighton. what do you make what she been saying? you heard frances o'grady saying borisjohnson was you heard frances o'grady saying boris johnson was running you heard frances o'grady saying borisjohnson was running scared of parliament, but i think the key things are her reiterating her opposition to a no—deal brexit and we are expecting to hear her reiterate as well she would like to see another ballot with remain on the ballot paper. interestingly the other points you raised, she said the country's problem is not created by brexit, it is a brexit that is a symptom of our problems and one of theissues symptom of our problems and one of the issues she focused on is discrimination in the workplace on the basis of class. she said the system is rigged from the start for people that if you are working class the odds are stacked against you and
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she raised those issues like free internships be much easier to do if you are better off, graduates as well, she said, those higher paid jobs starting at 30,000, say, you are twice as likely to get those if you come from a better off backgrounds. the other points you focused on was there should be a law against discrimination on the basis of class in the workplace just as there is against discrimination on there is against discrimination on the basis of race or sex. thank you, simon. thank you forjoining us. very noisy westminster. very quiet during frances o'grady's speech, they have onlyjust started now, incredible! obviously there is a lot of talk about what exactly democracy is. i know you would like to be election, the government is expected to try to get an election agreed today, and again
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it is not likely to happen. are we going to end up with the situation by the end of the day when parliament is prorogue?” by the end of the day when parliament is prorogue? i want an early election. frances o'grady touched on this that the working class people voting brexit, it was a symptom of the fact that nobody was listening to them, and nobody is listening to them, and nobody is listening to them still. because they voted leave and we have not delivered it three years after we said we would, what we have got is borisjohnson now said we would, what we have got is boris johnson now heading said we would, what we have got is borisjohnson now heading a parliament, basically a parliament in paralysis, we have lost our majority, and what do you say to a labour party that has been demanding an early election? yet they voted against that early election last week when they had the opportunity. tonight there is another opportunity. i have been speaking to a lot of my constituents up in lancashire this weekend, all they wa nt lancashire this weekend, all they want is for us to get on with it. even those who came up to me and said that, "i voted remain, but i wa nt said that, "i voted remain, but i want this done now." people voted
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leave and we have to accept that. that is the basic tenet of democracy which we are going against. what we are seeing is those, borisjohnson who want to see the country potentially leaving without a deal... potentially. and those opposed to no deal trying to block it, it will go into law today. he will have to seek an extension to the referendum if there is nothing by the 17th. the 17th and 18th. the 19th of october. the reason they won't have an election if they simply don't trust borisjohnson to manoeuvre in a way that makes it possible for him to get around what is being done here and have a no—deal brexit. one of the things thatis no—deal brexit. one of the things that is being talked about potentially is john that is being talked about potentially isjohn response and —— is sending two letter to the eu. why are you smiling? i read about that in the papers. i don't think you
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need to send the second letter to the european union, they know what our view is. that if somehow or other we have to ask for an extension to article 50, which is, as burris said, he is not prepared to do it, they don't need a letter to do it, they don't need a letter to know that we don't want to do it. it would be an instruction to parliament. as we heard from dominic raabjust over the parliament. as we heard from dominic raab just over the weekend, parliament. as we heard from dominic raabjust over the weekend, they are looking at all sorts of ways, at the legislation and that where the loopholes are to see whether the legislation is rigorous enough to force a prime minister into that particular position. we will find out whether the legislation... with it focusing on legislation and loopholes, do you think this will end up in the supreme court? loopholes, do you think this will end up in the supreme court7m loopholes, do you think this will end up in the supreme court? it may well end end up in the supreme court? it may wellend up in end up in the supreme court? it may well end up in the court for them to decide. do you know which court i would prefer it to end up in? the court of public opinion. the way you do that is to have an early election. i don't know why the labour party are scared to trust the people. we know lots of people spoke in 2016, it was quite clear. we have
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not delivered on that. so the only way out of this particular mess, we have the queen's speech coming on the 14th of october, put it back to the 14th of october, put it back to the people now. it was articulated by amber rudd when she resigned, not enough is being done to get a deal. there is no way to get a deal, they don't want no deal. boris is in ireland right now talking to the irish taoiseach about the issue of the backstop. we know that within ireland at this moment, between ireland at this moment, between ireland and northern ireland, there isa ireland and northern ireland, there is a smuggling of tobacco, alcohol and fuel. that is going on now. what happens is the authorities north and south of the border get together and look at ways of enforcing the rules as they currently stand, but not on as they currently stand, but not on a hard border between the two countries. so why can't we extend that post—brexit for other goods if absolutely necessary to ensure the integrity of the single market? we can do that. what is lacking? political will is what is lacking.
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you talk about that as an option now, but the dup are relevant. that has always been an option but not as long as the tory party relies on the support of the dup. what we are saying is to ensure the integrity of the singer market, it doesn't have to be done on a border between ireland and northern ireland. and the irish foreign minister in the irish times was talking about ways of facilitating that. that is what we have been asking to do. all we needis we have been asking to do. all we need is the political will for that to happen. we can then go onto the next stages. ijust wish amber rudd and her21 next stages. ijust wish amber rudd and her 21 friends, instead of shouting at boris, who is guilty only of trying to deliver what he was elected to do by the tory party membership and the country, rather than that, when italy use their channels, talk to michel barnier? they seem to have a line of communication to him, say to him to come to the negotiating table and talk about how we can deliver the brexit that people voted for and
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ensure a deal will be done. if they don't do that, they risk losing without a deal. thank you very much, nigel evans. you can hear it is incredibly noisy here at westminster today. as the clock potentially ticks down to the prorogation of parliament tonight, that would mean parliament tonight, that would mean parliament not sitting for another five weeks. and it is not certain it will happen today, but it is expected that that will be what happens if the government doesn't get its way and get an election, a general election green lighted in the commons today. i am joined now by the former director of legislative affairs at number ten. joe moore worked with theresa may right until the end. what are you expected to happen? because we are hearing that the government is likely to test the new law that is expected to be passed today to tie the government's hands on a no—deal brexit. i think of last week shows anything, it will be a mark‘s game
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to predict anything. one thing i think is important to emphasise is that a lot of variables were reduced, they seem to be in play. downing street are doing their very best to ensure that as many of those variables, they are kite flying to ensure that many of those variables stay alive. with regards to what happens this evening... it is incredibly difficult with all of this noise (sirens blare)m incredibly difficult with all of this noise (sirens blare) it seems that the government would if they lose it this evening, did they prorogue anyway? they do an emergency business statement? they still have a lot of options on the table for them. it just still have a lot of options on the table for them. itjust depends. would you expect this to end up in the supreme court? that would be extraordinary, wouldn't it, if it
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went that way? one of the favourite expressions when i was in downing street was that people used to say, i-iim street was that people used to say, "i'm nota street was that people used to say, "i'm not a lawyer, and i'm not an expert in that field." what they are taking some legal advice. it seems inevitable that whatever happens. what i can also talk from plaid camry who are going to be talking later about impeaching boris johnson. is that a realistic possibility? that would be extreme. i don't know how the process was last done? all the options will be on the table for everybody involved no matter what side they are on. it will get more and more extreme the further down the road we go. thank you very much indeed. let's talk a bit more about that possibility because joining bit more about that possibility becausejoining injust a moment if the leader of plaid camry. it is something that boris johnson the leader of plaid camry. it is something that borisjohnson did support a long time ago when there
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was talk of possibly impeaching tony blair over iraq. we can talk to her right now. she hasjust blair over iraq. we can talk to her right now. she has just stepped blair over iraq. we can talk to her right now. she hasjust stepped in. you think that borisjohnson should be impeached ? you think that borisjohnson should be impeached? it is a situation where the prime minister is prepared to act as if he were above the law. both in prorogation, they will be court cases coming back next week with the findings on that. and in his willingness, he has stated that he won't seek an extension to the legislation which to receive royal assent today. in a situation where the prime minister is comfortable to say that he is above the law, it seems to me very reasonable for parliament to request for the process of impeachment, that he would come to the floor of the chamber and explain his actions. that is what impeachment does. it doesn't mean that he would be sent down or dismissed from his role as prime minister, but in these extraordinary times, we need extraordinary times, we need extraordinary measures. and this would do something to put the faith
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back into politics. you are just out ofa back into politics. you are just out of a meeting of opposition leaders, was this on the table at that meeting? what was the focus? our strong sense of outrage at the way our parliamentary democracy is being flouted in terms of the prorogation that we, it looks like we are going to be sent home, if the prime minister has his own way at the close of business tonight. we should be here, we should be discussing this. he has also said repeatedly that he would consider ways around the legislation, even ignoring the legislation that is being passed today. this is an extraordinary situation. if he does that, his lord chancellor and his attorney general would have to consider really what their positions are. we are an extraordinary times. just to add the icing on the cake, it is that boris johnson was a signatory on the last motion to impeach a prime minister, which was back in 2004 under the mp
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who is now the leader of plaid cymru, adam price. we are hearing that downing street confirming that parliament will be probed tonight. you have got a tiny group of mps together. they want to block the no—deal brexit to decide what your next courses. —— downing street confirming that parliament will be probed tonight. you have, how is that very small window going to be used today? we are going to have a long day ahead of us. what exactly was the process by which number ten, the prime minister and others around him actually put prorogation to the table? have they told us the truth? all through the summer? we will be looking for that under one of these esso 24s which is a way of bringing the information through. i anticipate it will be something along the lines of it and address. there will also be an s o 24, and
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for those of us the leaders of the opposition parties, we will be raising the question of whether the prime minister believes himself to be above the law or not. going back, you mention is the humble address, what would that be on?” you mention is the humble address, what would that be on? i could be a way of bringing forward the information as to what actually is held, the information terms, of correspondence, who said what to whom, and when? in terms of prorogation, and whether the prime minister and number ten have been entirely honest with parliament and... is that a direct appeal to the queen? i think this is a way of getting information forward. thank you very much. early in dublin, the prime minister was asked for some of the details of the copper mines offer he would be prepared to make in order to solve the problem of the irish backstop. well, i think it is fairly obvious what needs to be done.
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i think the landing zone is clear to everybody, we need to find a way of ensuring that the uk is not kept locked in the backstop arrangement, so that there is a way out for the uk. whilst giving ireland the assurances that it needs. i think there are two broad areas where progress can be made, and they are on the — everybody understand — the facilitations that people have been talking about for a long time now, whether it's trusted trader schemes or electronic preclearance of goods. there is a lot that can be done there. i think there is another area too which is the concept of the unity of the island of ireland for sanitary and phytosanitary purposes. in other words, for agrifoods. now, if you can do both of those things, you go a long way through the problem. there are still issues to be resolved, but there are other ideas that we will be bringing forward
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to address the full range of complexity involved. i don't underestimate the difficulties that we face, and the technical problems, and the political sensitivities. all i am saying to you today is that i do think that there is a way through that can satisfy the needs of irish business and farmers and everybody in this country, but also ensure that the uk is able to respect the democratic wishes of the whole united kingdom. i think there is a way of doing that. that was boris johnson a that was borisjohnson a little earlier. the latest is that there is confirmation from downing street that parliament will definitely be pro rogued later. lets talk more with the political editor of the new statesman. i'm joined now by political editor at the new statesman, stephen bush,
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and senior editor at the economist, anne mcelvoy. thank you forjoining us. that obviously just through us. thank you forjoining us. that obviouslyjust through us. it thank you forjoining us. that obviously just through us. it was expected, but what does it mean for what the opposition can now do in terms of the very small window that they have? it sharply reduces their ability to cause trouble. they have two slightly painful votes today, wa nt to two slightly painful votes today, want to force the government to publish its yellowhammer information, its plans for no deal, which may also contain details of the government doesn't want to have to explain in public. the second, which is less important and is a bit of westminster theatre, is the question about whether or not boris johnson intends to follow the rule of law. i think whether or not he does is important, but whether or not a minister has to stand up in the commons and say, "yes, we will do this," is neither here nor there. on operation yellowhammer, i was just talking to the leader of plaid cymru in westminster who said they will have a humble address to try to get those documents published. is
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that basically a trump card? how would that work? it essentially compels the government to put the releva nt compels the government to put the relevant information before the house. the question is whether or not prorogation means that they get some wriggle room or not or whether they have to wait until the 14th of october to put it before the house. 0f october to put it before the house. of course, it is embarrassing regardless of whether or not when it ends up being published, it means that the government can no longer say, "oh, look, this isjust project fear and scaremongering from outside." these are things signed off by boris johnson outside." these are things signed off by borisjohnson the no dealer in chief. we are heading for key dates, so it is worth reminding ourselves and viewers of what those dates are. parliament will close today until the 14th of october. we then have the eu summit on the 17th and 18th of october. the 19th of october is when borisjohnson will have to go to the eu to ask for an extension to the brexit a deadline in the event of no deal. how do you see things playing out? because at
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the same time that borisjohnson is in dublin and talking optimistically about the prospects, maybe not optimistically, but talking about the possibility of a way around the backstop? so much from downing street's point of view, he is trying to go ahead with the prorogation, it ta kes a to go ahead with the prorogation, it takes a lot of the oxygen, it takes the atmosphere that we saw last week with all the clashes in parliament, parliament really did emerge with the upper hand. borisjohnson looked on the back foot, he looked uncomfortable on the back foot, he looked u nco mforta ble often on the back foot, he looked uncomfortable often in the chamber that goes away because it is not sitting. this is very much part of the borisjohnson sitting. this is very much part of the boris johnson masterplan sitting. this is very much part of the borisjohnson masterplan which is, "yes, i have a clash with parliament. was that he would say that they have overstepped, they would say he has overstepped his powers, but driving harsh towards a no—deal brexit. but once boris johnson gets out there and is able to get to dublin and go around the country a bit more, then i suppose he will spend a bit more time in continental europe. he will need to
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if he wants a deal. it goes back to the fact that he is head of the government. it is only the government. it is only the government that can negotiate this. parliament has certainly made its will absolutely clear, but it can not, it can put in blocking manoeuvres, but the prime minister is still able to go off and do his thing. i think that is where we will see the momentum move in the next couple of weeks. this talk of an all ireland solution to the backstop with north and south of the border following the same rules on agriculture and food, is that a way to unlock the situation? yes, in terms of the issue that many conservative mps have with the backstop in that it means that the whole of the uk wouldn't be able to diverge from the eu's rules, one solution originally proposed in 2017 before the dup went, "not on your nellie," you have a regular three board on the irish sea. there are
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checks there. you can see how the government would argue for it. i think the issue here is that would lose some conservative votes on the other side because they would be worried about the implications for the union. it would gain some labour votes, people who desperately want any deal, they don't want another brexit election. would those two numbers cancel each other out? that is the big open question. what obviously it is a question for how it would go down in europe. obviously it is a question for how it would go down in europem obviously it is a question for how it would go down in europe. it would go down well in europe. it is something berlin has been keen on. the virtual border, the border under the sea, bobbing around with all the fish and the seals. that would solve the problem, ithink fish and the seals. that would solve the problem, i think angela merkel has been in the spirit of, "i am trying to help you solve your column in london, but please bring your plan." i in london, but please bring your plan. " i think in london, but please bring your plan." i think that would be very welcome in london. with the dup out of the picture? saying this to protect the interests of the republic of ireland, this is a very good solution indeed, the trouble is
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the politics. the numbers now are very fragile for any solution. so would you lose or gain if the dup we re would you lose or gain if the dup were not likely to at all? i could see how it would be a possible way forward. thank you both are very much. we will be answering your questions on all things brexit and what could happen next. i wasjust mentioning that the key dates in the weeks ahead. if you have questions that you want to put to us for bbc ask this, contact details on your screen right now. we will have much more from westminster later this hour. now back to the studio for a round—up of the day's business news. the uk economy grew by 0.3% injuly, compared with june. that's according to the office for national statistics.
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growth "remained level" in the three months to july 2019. more on that in just a moment. lloyds banking group is facing an extra bill of up to £1.8 billion to cover a late rush of claims for the mis—selling of payment protection insurance. the bank said it saw "a significant spike" in pp! claims in the run—up to the final deadline of 29 august. it means lloyds could face an extra charge of bewteen £1.2 billion to £1.8 billion. graduates from wealthier families are more than twice as likely to start work on a higher salary than their working—class peers. that's according to trade union body the tuc. it's called for legal action to tackle discrimination based on class at work. we've had the latest figures on the strength of the uk economy and it shows the economy is growing a little bit better than expected.
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the office for national statistics said that the economy grew 0.3% injuly — that's faster than some economists had predicted. they also said that the economy for the three months tojuly was flat — signs of no growth or a slowdown? so is this a sign the uk economy might manage to avoid a recession? ruth gregory is a senior economist at capital economics. good to talk to you. first off, how seriously and at what level of significance should be placed on these figures? i think given the contraction in the economy in the second quarter, a recession had seemed like a very real prospect. but given today's surprisingly strong growth reading forjuly, some of those recession fears have been allayed a little bit. we saw growth returning in all three of the main
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sectors in the economy. admittedly, some of that may be elected to brexit related factors. we saw a pick—up in the transport and storage sector, for example, which may be an indicator of firms bringing activity forward ahead of the next potential brexit deadline on the 31st of october. but the scientific up in economic growth. it is a positive sign that a recession may be avoided in the third quarter. they are definitely positive signs in the service sector. just to resonate with the note of caution, gwp and poc have said there are a strong set of results with gdp, but let's not get too excited because the underlying overarching concern here is about a disorderly brexit, potentially a no—deal brexit, they say that should that happen, it could put us into recession.
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say that should that happen, it could put us into recessionlj say that should that happen, it could put us into recession. i think thatis could put us into recession. i think that is right. what happened in the third quarter is pretty small compared to what would happen if they were a no—deal brexit on the 3ist they were a no—deal brexit on the 31st of october, or indeed on the 3ist 31st of october, or indeed on the 31st of october, or indeed on the 31st of january. in that case, we think that a recession would be much more likely. we obviously, the economic impact of that would be hugely uncertain and depend on a whole host of different things including brexit preparations, the tariff response, the policy response. in that case, we would expect the economy to shrink in the two quarters following a no—deal brexit. meeting the definition for a technical recession. thereafter, a decisive policy response could help the economy to pick back up. on the positives, as you say, it has given a short—term boom to stirling, against the pound and the euro. we saw this very strong performance in the services sector. we have seen
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pockets of weakness in the economy recently, particularly in the manufacturing sector which is more exposed to the global slowdown. but other areas of the economy seem to be holding up much better, in particular, the service sector which accou nts particular, the service sector which accounts for four fifths of the british economy. that does appear to have remained pretty resilient for the time being. the economy is at a crossroads now, what happens next will depend on what happened with brexit and the timing of the looming general election. good to talk to you. ruth from capital economics. here is how the ftse 100 is reacting to this morning's gdp figures. after remaining positive in early trading, it slipped into the red soon after the 9.30am announcement and has continued to slump ever since. primark‘s owner, associated british foods, is weighing on the ftse having given up 2% on a poor outlook for its discount fashion chain.
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iag, the parent company of ba, their share price is also flying considerably lower on the ongoing pilot strike. and, as ever, in these dramatic brexit days, all eye on the currency. and pound sterling actually enjoying a bit of a boost today against both the dollar and the euro thanks to those upbeat gdp numbers. now the weather with simon king. the temperatures have slumped today, feeling much cooler compared to the average. it has been a grim start for many of us, we have had rain throughout the morning. it has been a call start to this week. wet and windy at times. it will turn more humid towards the end of the week and turning dry with sunshine. through this morning, you can see a weather front which is through this morning, you can see a weatherfront which is bringing through this morning, you can see a weather front which is bringing a lot of cloud, as you can see here. that cloud is clearing from northern ireland, so some sunshine here. the bulk of scotland england and wales,
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patchy rain likely to continue, particularly across southern areas of wales and south—west england. some slow—moving thunderstorms expected right throughout into the afternoon. look at those temperatures, i4—i6dc. through tonight, those showers across the south will tend to clear. for many of us, they will be clear spells. patchy mist and fog developing, particularly in south and eastern parts of england. some fog patches west. temperatures will be down to between eight and 10 celsius. during tuesday, a dry and bright start for scotla nd tuesday, a dry and bright start for scotland and northern ireland. rain spread is way in here and a strengthening wind. for england and wales, a band of cloud moves eastward, but there will be sunshine into the afternoon. the temperature just a bit higher today. going into wednesday, we have this area of low pressure. this is the remnants of x hurricane dorian. the winds coming
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in from hurricane dorian. the winds coming infrom a hurricane dorian. the winds coming in from a brisk westerly direction. with the breezy conditions, showers across scotland, rain for a time moving its way south—eastward. it should be dry by the afternoon and there should be sunny spells developing. temperatures again are just a bit higher nudging up to around 17 and 21 celsius. then we have x tropical storm gabrielle. that will move its way across the uk. this time, it will bring warmer conditions. some tropical warmth and humidity with that by the end of the week. there will be a spell of rain from northern ireland and parts of england, the taps for wales too. further south and east it is dry. you can see the temperature contrast to much of england and wales. 23 celsius. a bit cooler in scotland and northern ireland with temperatures around 15 and i6 celsius. on friday and into the
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weekend, it is looking drier with sunshine.
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you're watching bbc newsroom live with joanna gosling in westminster. the headlines at midday: borisjohnson says a no—deal brexit would be a "failure", as he meets with the irish prime minister, leo varadkar, in dublin. yes, of course, we could do it, the uk could certainly get through it, but be in no doubt, that outcome would be a failure of statecraft for which we would all be responsible. the contentious irish backstop is top of today's agenda. leo varadkar warned that a no—deal brexit would affect the relationship between the two nations. there is no such thing as a clean break orjust getting it done. rather, we will just move onto a new phase. if there is no deal it will cause
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severe disruption for british and irish people alike. downing street confirms that parliament will be shut down after the close of business today, as the government suspends proceedings till mid—october. i'm carrie gracie with the rest of today's headlines. travel disruption for hundreds of thousands of british airways passengers, as pilots go on strike. it's the biggest walk—out, in ba's history. more than 120 firefighters have been tackling a major blaze at a block of flats in south west london. residents say they're relieved they got out alive. i'm just thankful we got the family out, all of us out and everyone is safe. whatever is in there, we will have to just get back somehow, some way, but as long as we are safe, i suppose. and coming up, little mix'sjesy nelson calls for a crackdown on online trolls, as she reveals she tried to take her own life following cyberbullying.
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good afternoon. borisjohnson, who's holding brexit talks in dublin, has said that failure to reach a deal with the european union over brexit would be "a failure of statecraft". speaking before discussions with his irish counterpart, leo varadkar, mrjohnson said he would "overwhelmingly prefer" to find an agreement, and believed it could be reached by the middle of october. let's have a look at what we're expecting to happen in parliament today. this afternoon a bill tabled by the labour mp hilary benn which would require the prime minister to seek an extension to the brexit deadline of 31st october if a deal is not reached, is expected to become law.
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also today in the commons, the government is expected to face another defeat when it asks mps to agree to a snap election for a second time. opposition parties have once again confirmed this morning that they won't vote for an early election tonight. and in the last half hour, downing street has announced that parliament will be prorogued when business finishes in the commons today. proceedings would be set to restart in mid—october. we understand by decision —— opposition mps will use a mechanism to force the publication of the government's yellowhammer report on the preparedness for a no—deal brexit. there is a very small window of parliament sitting today but the opposition will use it to try and force more out of the government. the prime minister has held his first face—to—face meeting with the taoiseach leo varadkar, since he entered downing street
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injuly. mr va radkar says ireland wants to help the uk but he will not agree to the replacement of the legal guarantee of the backstop with just a promise to keep the border open. in my view, the story of brexit won't end if the united kingdom ends the european union on the 31st of october or even the 31st of january. there is no such thing as a clean break orjust getting it done. rather, we will just move on to a new phase. if there is no deal, it will cause severe disruption for british and irish people alike. not so much on the continent. whatever happens, we'll have to get back to the negotiating table quite quickly. when we do, the first items on the agenda will be citizens‘ rights, the financial settlement and the irish border. all issues we had resolved in the withdrawal agreement made with your predecessor, an agreement made in good faith by 28 governments. but if there is a deal — and i think it is possible — we will enter talks on a future relationship agreement between the eu and the uk,
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it's going to be very tough and we will have to deal with issues like tariffs, fishing rights, product standards, state aid, and it will then have to be ratified by 31 parliaments. prime minister, negotiating ftas with the eu and the us and securing their ratification in less than three years i think is going to be a herculean task for you. but we do want to be your friend and your ally, your athena in doing so. and i think the manner in which you leave the european union will determine whether that is possible. i am ready to listen to any constructive ways in which we can achieve our agreed goals and resolve the current impasse, but what we cannot do and will not do — and i know you understand this — is agree to the replacement of a legal guarantee with a promise. ahead of his talks with the irish taoiseach, the prime minister says he wants a brexit deal — and a failure to get one would be a "failure of statecraft."
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i have one message i want to land with you today. that is i want to find a deal. i have looked carefully at no deal and assessed its consequences, both for our country and yours and of course we could do it, the uk could certainly get through it, but be in no doubt, that outcome would be a failure of statecraft from which we would all be responsible. and so for the sake of business, farmers and for millions of ordinary people who are now counting on us to use our imagination and creativity to get this done, i want you to know i would overwhelmingly prefer to find an agreement. our assistant political editor
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norman smith is with me now. that's what's happening in ireland, developments here, we heard parliament will definitely be suspended from close of business today and we also learned more about what the opposition will do to try to hold the government to account. significant because the decision by the government basically to suspend parliament tonight tells us is they have given up on the idea of triggering an election for up to what the 15th because they could have delayed proroguing parliament until thursday which would have bought them some time to try and push through a one line bill which would only have needed a simple majority to trigger an election but they decide that it's not going to get parliamentary support so it's not going to work so they conceded that. the other interesting thing is we are against seeing the extent to which parliament has seized control and is driving the brexit agenda in that opposition mps and tory rebels are trying to secure the publication using various parliamentary
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procedures, emergency debate, of the yellowhammer documents. these are the no deal documents which mooted the no deal documents which mooted the possibility that there could be shortages of food, fuel, medicines, which michael gove and others tried to downplay saying they are all documents, nothing to worry about. there's the possibility that those documents may have to be published and also the documents around the government's briefings for proroguing parliament. this matters is because borisjohnson always insisted proroguing parliament to clear the decks to have a queen's speech, but if it transpires that the driving reason for proroguing parliament was to avoid parliamentary scrutiny and avoid any snags in his brexit strategy, then he will face accusations of misleading parliament. again, we could see borisjohnson pushed even further onto the back foot today by parliament. it puts even more pressure on boris johnson to try to get a deal and he
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is in ireland for talks with the irish prime minister on that. talk about possibly there being an all ireland solution to agriculture and food to avoid a hard border, is that looking like it might be a way through? i think not, bluntly. because the irish made pretty clear agriculture and food only makes up 30% of cross—border trade and you would still have to have a mechanism for avoiding border checks for the remaining 70%. on top of that, the dup are distinctly uneasy about the idea because they believed it would mean ceding control of rules and regulations regarding agriculture and food to the eu and mean putting and food to the eu and mean putting a line down the irish sea between northern ireland and the rest of the uk. they believe it would be the thin end of the wedge, if they agreed to that all ireland single market on food and agriculture who knows what would be next. we are so
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late in the day, very late in the day for trying to get a deal and we heard from the taoiseach saying we have not had firm proposals yet. these are what i would cult the idea stage, proposals been kicked around, they don't seem to have taken —— what i call the idea stage. they've not been taken together any formal proposalfor not been taken together any formal proposal for the not been taken together any formal proposalfor the eu to not been taken together any formal proposal for the eu to consider. not been taken together any formal proposalfor the eu to consider. the eu summit is october the 17th so we're hurtling towards that and it seems, if all eu leaders and leo varadkarare seems, if all eu leaders and leo varadkar are correct, we have still put on the table a proposal. a deal still looks a long shot, to say the least. that eu summit for the 17th and 18th of october and that the 19th of october is another key date because that's the date by which the government must ask for an extension to article 50, an extra three months
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to article 50, an extra three months to article 50, delaying brexit beyond the 31st of october, until the end of january, beyond the 31st of october, until the end ofjanuary, that beyond the 31st of october, until the end of january, that is beyond the 31st of october, until the end ofjanuary, that is because the end ofjanuary, that is because the law put forward by the opposition and those opposed to no—deal brexit, is expected to pass into law today. the architect of that law is labour mp hilary ben. he is with me now. thank you for joining us. your bill is expected to get royal assent today, also parliament is expected to be prorogued. it will be prorogued. let's talk about the prorogation, first of all. where does that leave the opposition? we are at a time of unprecedented crisis for our country. the stakes could not be higher in the ceiling borisjohnson will shut could not be higher in the ceiling boris johnson will shut parliament for over a month. —— this evening borisjohnson will shut for over a month. —— this evening boris johnson will shut parliament. i think this is a prime minister who does not want to be scrutinised
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because everything he says fold apart as we saw with amber rudd's comments yesterday about negotiations. one reason she left the government and quit the conservative party is she thought there are not serious negotiations taking place and that is a pretty damning criticism from someone who has been serving in the cabinet with borisjohnson since the end ofjuly. let's talk about negotiations and what's happening in ireland but firstly your bill is expected to get royal assent and that would tie the government's hands and they would be obliged if there is no deal by the 19th of october to ask for an extension from the eu. talk about the government looking at pushing the government looking at pushing the law, saying it might not be watertight, one of the suggestions as the bill provides for the wording ofa as the bill provides for the wording of a letter to be put forward by borisjohnson, there of a letter to be put forward by boris johnson, there is of a letter to be put forward by borisjohnson, there is talk of a second letter alongside that to say we don't actually want this extension. what do you think about that? iam nota that? i am not a lawyer but it strikes me
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as utterly ridiculous. for the government suggest they might do that and i think it would be seen by the courts as a transparent attempt to subvert the legal obligation once the bill becomes law, placed on the prime ministers. it's simple, the bill does not actually tie his hands because if he is able to get an agreement at the european council and get it through parliament, then he will have succeeded, i don't think he is serious about negotiating a new deal, what the bill says is if he fails to do that at the european council on the 17th and 18th of october, on the following day he must write the letter, the bill specifies the form of words he must use and he must ask foran of words he must use and he must ask for an extension untiljanuary the sist. for an extension untiljanuary the 3ist. if for an extension untiljanuary the 31st. if you offers that he must accept. the purpose is simple, no—deal brexit would be really to the economy and opportunities, jobs, investment and businesses. it is parliament that is acting on behalf
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of the people, whatever people think about how this brexit crisis should be resolved, there is no mandates and not majority support for no—deal brexit. stay with us, if you would not mind because we want to continue the conversation but we have to say goodbye to viewers on bbc two. goodbye for now. picking up. you are saying the opposition are representing the people, boris johnson's opposition are representing the people, borisjohnson's view is he is representing the people. in terms of what would happen, you talk about the government trying to subvert legal obligations and they will be under the new law that goes ahead today, in the event of the government doing that, i presume you've got a standby position. doesn't legal action immediately happen? yes, because as with any
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other bill, there can only be one a nswer to other bill, there can only be one answer to the question to the government are you going to uphold the law, they can only say of course. if, and i've been a very troubled by what boris johnson course. if, and i've been a very troubled by what borisjohnson has said saying i will never apply for an extension under any circumstances, if he carried out that threats on the 19th of october that threats on the 19th of october that i think one would expect the court to receive an application on the monday morning and it would be for the court to decide. the law is a very clear. we drafted it in a way to make absolutely transparent to the prime minister what he must do in at the national interest to stop no—deal brexit. did you think of the possibility of a second letter alongside the first? you said is ridiculous, but it is a possibility, isn't it? the law provides for him signing the letter that you have said he has to send. it does not mention not sending something else as well. i think it's ridiculous for this reason, the court looking at the
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first litter in that situation would see this is what parliaments, our mps, instructed the prime minister to do. the intention of parliament in passing the law would be clear to send a second letter, forget the one i've just written, this send a second letter, forget the one i'vejust written, this is send a second letter, forget the one i've just written, this is what i really think, i think the eu would think what on earth is going on. parliament would have made it clear and it would be for the courts determine what it strikes me as a absurd idea. it is the eu that we need to say yes to the extension. there has been talk about their having been conversations and an indication from the eu it would agree this three month extension, what is the position on that? you are right, the eu must decide. my you are right, the eu must decide. my view has always been they are very frustrated with what is happening, the british people are frustrated, we have to bring it to an end because we cannot keep prolonging this. my view is the only
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way out is go back to the people and have a confirmatory referendum on it theresa may's deal and remain. i think people should have the final say to end the deadlock. i've never thought the european union would be the ones to say we are pushing you over a cliff. i don't think so. therefore, however frustrated and cross they may be, given they could see we may well be heading towards an election, parliament may return toa an election, parliament may return to a confirmatory referendum, i would hope in the circumstances of the eu would agree to the request that, in effect, parliament has made because parliament has passed the bill. let's find out the eu view and we will go to brussels. hilary benn, thank you. in terms of an extension i think the catchphrase to listen to is what they say all the time, whether
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officials and diplomats are ministers or prime ministers, they say if it is no—deal brexit that is a choice for the uk to make. the eu will not be the ones responsible for no deal. i think we can interpret that as saying if that is a request foran that as saying if that is a request for an extension from the uk then the eu will say yes because if they turnit the eu will say yes because if they turn it down that is the uk leaving without a deal because the eu said you cannot stay for a bit longer. although that's not to say there will be lots —— there would not be lots of wrangling about how long the extension would be, loads of views about that, and also if there should be any conditions attached to it. cast your mind back to earlier this year that is what happens, the two times there were extension request from the uk, in march and april. there was grumbling about whether it should be granted at all but the eu a lwa ys should be granted at all but the eu
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always said yes, it was about the conditions. borisjohnson is conditions. boris johnson is holding conditions. borisjohnson is holding talks with the taoiseach in dublin today and there is talk about an all ireland solution to trying to stop there being a hard border. potentially a solution to the irish backstop. how is that likely to go down in brussels? rhetorically, that sort of stuff will go down quite well. i think eu diplomats and officials listening to the statement from the prime minister in dublin would have been heartened by some things, the fact borisjohnson said quite a few times and quite strongly he wanted to get and quite strongly he wanted to get a deal, that cheers people up every time he says that. the idea he is willing to entertain solutions that would apply to northern ireland only and not the rest of the uk, that will hearten people a bit as well because that's softening of his position. they will have heard him
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saying again the solution can lie in practical and technical thing that can be applied to the various bits of the problem of the irish border. rather than a whole catch all legal and political solution. ithink there will be disheartened to hear that. it's not just there will be disheartened to hear that. it's notjust about what boris johnson said, think about what the taoiseach said, he was still standing. we are behind the backstop and he said no dealfor ireland and what ireland wants is what the rest of the eu wants and what the officials in brussels really want is some cast—iron details, stuff on paperfrom some cast—iron details, stuff on paper from the british some cast—iron details, stuff on paperfrom the british in some cast—iron details, stuff on paper from the british in these talks between the prime minister's envoy. lots of chat and concept from the uk but very little on paper and very little specific. we think david frost will be back in brussels for more talks on wednesday and also on friday its opportunities for specifics to be put on the table.
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the general secretary of the tuc says she doesn't want a no—deal brexit because workers' jobs are threatened by it. frances o'grady has been addressing delegates at their annual conference in brighton. she addressed the prime miister directly saying she wants to ensure that a no—deal get‘s ruled out once and for all. when working people organise, we do have courage and we are the true optimists, we know that is a better way went this country draws on the talents of all our people and makes sure everyone has a voice and a sta ke sure everyone has a voice and a stake in rebuilding britain. a new dealfor stake in rebuilding britain. a new deal for working stake in rebuilding britain. a new dealfor working people. let's use our political voice can hold our nerve and get no deal ruled out for good. then we can have the general election to get the change that working people need. boris, you bet
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we are ready, because we want a government that respects working people, makes it easier to raise a family, helps as when fair wages, removes the obscenity of families queueing at food banks, builds houses and keeps communities safe, ta kes houses and keeps communities safe, takes care of our nhs, government thatis takes care of our nhs, government that is compassionate and tolerant and for the sake of our young people, brings hope for the future. our correspondent simon gompertz was listening to that speech in brighton. tell us more about what she said, simon, and the reaction to it. she said borisjohnson was running scared of parliament over no deal and she issued a warning to him saying if borisjohnson tried to trick us, she said, refused to obey the law that stops no deal, workers voted to strike, to defend their
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jobs, then the gloves would be off. as you heard, what she has reiterated is the union movements‘ opposition to no deal on the ground at the lowest paid, in their view, would be the worst off as a result. she veered off that topic then, she said brexit was knocked because of the country‘s problems, it was a symptom of them and she focused in on the subject of discrimination people receive in the workplace on the basis of class and she said she wa nted the basis of class and she said she wanted to see a new law making that illegal, classed as cremation, just asa illegal, classed as cremation, just as a sex discrimination and discrimination on the basis of race isa discrimination on the basis of race is a legal —— class discrimination. let‘s get a sports update now. rafa nadal is one grand slam title behind roger federer‘s record of 20 after coming through an epic us open
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final against russia‘s daniil medvedev who was two sets down but forced the decider. becoming champion in new york for the fourth time, the spaniard. as rafa nadal took it all in, on the big screen they showed what he had done. a tribute to what now is 19 grand slam titles. even she cant lose track. that dahl said this when it might have been his most emotional. he was pushed all the weight by daniil medvedev. the russian was playing in his first grand slam final, he looked like big overwhelm for the first two sets and nadal raced into a two set lead but as light fell on new york the crowd asked for more and medvedev rows they come back and play like this could make him the next star. he won back the next two sets to force the decider but with nearly five hours on the clock nadal found the will to respond.
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the way they match went on, very good match at the end, this makes this day unforgettable part of my history in the sport. rafa nadal! this is the last major of the year but injanuary he could go level with roger federer on 20 major titles. as this sport goes into a new decade it still looks to the same icons. england have named the same 13 man squad for the final ashes test. the feat yesterday means australia retain the as is but england can level the series with victory at the oval. joe root insists he is the great man to captain the side despite england failing to win the ashes on home soil for the first time in18 ashes on home soil for the first time in 18 years. two more european qualifiers for
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home nations tonight, scotland face belgium. northern ireland will look to stay top of their group, needing to stay top of their group, needing to avoid defeat to germany at windsor park to do so. vying for one of the two automatic qualification spots. that‘s all but for now, i will be back around half past one. let‘s head to the bbc newsroom now. senior police officers are calling on home secretary priti patel to "heal" the relationship between the government and the police after years of spending cuts. chief superintendent paul griffiths, president of the police superintendents‘ association. wants the government to face up to "the human cost of funding cuts". the home secretary, speaking to the police superintendents‘ association, said police haven‘t been sufficiently supported under previous conservative governments. this is a new government and i am prepared to be frank. i‘m ashamed to say that you have not always had
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enough support, you have been overworked and undervalued, unable to do thejob overworked and undervalued, unable to do the job you love and that stops now. our home affairs correspondent danny shaw is at the conference for us now. it sounds like a meeting of minds, they wanted her to do something and she wants to do it. that‘s probably a good characterisation of this speech by priti patel, her first characterisation of this speech by priti patel, herfirst big characterisation of this speech by priti patel, her first big speech since becoming home secretary in july and she made it absolutely clear she wants to reset the relationship between the police service and the government, a relationship that deteriorated sharply when a theresa may was home secretary. sergey javid began sharply when a theresa may was home secretary. sergeyjavid began to repair that relationship but priti patel now has money for 20,000 extra police officers over the next three yea rs police officers over the next three years and that will go a long way to healing some of the wounds. she was very frank about those past problems there have been and she said that she wants to restore pride in the
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police but she also said the healing process must be more than just a sticking plaster. that‘s an acknowledgement it will take some yea rs acknowledgement it will take some years for those wounds to heal. she also talked about the need to ensure people who carry out attacks on police officers, and there have been a number of serious incidents in the past few weeks, feel the full force of the law. she believed there must bea of the law. she believed there must be a strong deterrent and she said the sentence must truly fit the crime, she used a very strong language, describing perpetrators as monsters. when i asked her to suggest whether the death penalty should be available for people who murder police officers and whether she has supported it in the past, she has supported it in the past, she said she had not supported the death penalty in the past, despite televised remarks which, i have to say, suggest the contrary. she was quite clear about that, however. lets catch a look at the weather.
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it has been quite an autumnal flavour to the weather with some rain, some quite widespread across the country. starting to fragment but we‘ve still got the potential for pretty intense sharp thundery downpours for south—west england and wales for the afternoon. brightening up wales for the afternoon. brightening upfor wales for the afternoon. brightening up for northern ireland but temperatures disappointing, even for early september. over night tonight we start to see the rain easing, there could be some mist and fog forming and quite a lot of cloud as well. we start tomorrow on a murky note, the mist and fog will slowly lift, the cloud both in and break allowing or sunshine tomorrow afternoon but that will not last long for northern ireland and scotland. winds are strengthening and rain arrives, some heavy by the end of the day. slightly warmer,
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however. hello this is bbc newsroom live. the headlines... borisjohnson says a no—deal brexit would be a "failure", as he meets with the irish prime minister, leo varadkar, in dublin. yes, of course, we could do it. the uk could certainly get through it. but be in no doubt that that outcome would be a failure of statecraft for which we would all be responsible. the contentious irish backstop is top of today‘s agenda. leo varadkar warned that a no—deal brexit would affect the friendship between the two nations. there is no such thing as a clean break orjust getting it done. rather, we willjust move on to a new phase. if there is no deal, it
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will cause severe disruption for british and irish people alike. downing street confirms that parliament will be shut down after the close of business today, as the government suspends proceedings till mid—october. travel disruption for hundreds of thousands of british airways passengers, as pilots go on strike. it‘s the biggest walk—out in ba‘s history. now it‘s time to look at some of the questions you‘ve been sending us on what happens now with brexit. joanna is at westminster for ask this. welcome to westminster. this is the bit where the answer your questions at home, ask this. with me now is maddy thimont—jack,
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senior brexit researcher at the instiute for government. and our very own chris morris, the bbc‘s reality check corrrespondent. yet again it is a day with lots and lots of developments. chris, let‘s first of all help to get heads around what is happening in ireland and the backstop. it is an issue that keeps coming up. it is one of those things you can never explain too much. i have tried to explain in 30 seconds what the backstop is many times. i will try it slightly differently. three things emerge that the government wanted during the negotiations under the theresa may government. to leave the eu‘s economic structures, to leave the border in ireland as open as it is now, and to have no new checks between northern ireland and great britain, the so—called border than the irish sea. the trouble is you can‘t have those three things at the same time, you have to compromise on one of them. and what the backstop did was essentially say, and it was agreed by the eu and her british government, to say that of those things, the most important is to keep that border in ireland as open
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as it is now, for obvious political, security, historical reasons. so the backstop says, "if you will keep the board open as it is now, you need to compromise a little bit on to be leaving the single market and the customs union. we will create a customs area, we don‘t call it a customs area, we don‘t call it a customs union, but it is pretty similar, and also northern ireland has to follow most of the rules of the single market as well." if that is going to be rejected, there is only really one other option if you are going to give the board open, and that is to have some kind of extra check down the irish sea between great britain and northern ireland. that is what you get this idea of a northern ireland only backstop. so those rules would only apply in northern ireland. but with the eu‘s original proposal rejected by theresa may‘s government. the backstop is designed to keep that board open, come what may. but all the politics around it makes it very difficult to do it in the circumstances. and how much has the politics shifted? because then if that was when theresa may was absolutely reliant on the dup mps,
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the make up of the commons with lots of tory mps has shifted. it changes that. one of the questions in the background has been to what extent would brexit hardliners, the the erc be prepared to throw the dup under the bus? in other words, is leaving the bus? in other words, is leaving the eu on their terms more important than protecting their allies in a northern ireland ? than protecting their allies in a northern ireland? it is interesting, the third time the withdrawal agreement came back to the house of commons, the erg spit at it and borisjohnson was commons, the erg spit at it and boris johnson was among commons, the erg spit at it and borisjohnson was among those who said they would vote for it, even if there are bits in it, including the backstop, which the dup don‘t like. but there were also the ultras, mps like steve baker and others who said that under no circumstances would they vote for this withdrawal agreement. so, yes, circumstances have changed, the dup hasn‘t got as many leave us as it had before, but there is still no majority for anything in this house of commons. so if we had an election, we have a
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new house of commons, would there be a majority for one thing or the other? it is possible but we have another hung parliament and who would be standing here talking about this again. ian in hemsworth in wakefield wonders: can the pm veto the extension bill? no. the bill today is going to become law it has been confirmed. and once it becomes law, the prime minister will have to follow the law. so what it basically says is that the prime minister, if a deal or no deal hasn't been approved by the 19th of october, the prime minister needs to go to brussels and ask for an extension. and what the bill also does is it says that if all 27 other eu member states agree to the extension request proposed by the prime minister, the bill says it has to be done by the 31st of january next year, the prime minister must also agree to the extension. the bill is trying to ensure that the prime minister must agree an extension with the eu if a deal or no deal hasn't been approved. there is talk about
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loopholes. people say that he can‘t veto it, but could he find a loophole around it? the lawyers i have spoken to who know about this stuff, i‘m not a lawyer, they say that you could try, but if it goes to court, the government will lose because the law of the land is the law of the land. and once royal assent is given to that bill today, it is the law. john spracklland in greater manchester asks: if johnson tries to circumvent the legislation requiring him to request an extension; could parliament resort to revoking article 50? in theory, yes. i think probably what we are more likely to see is that if the prime minister tries to not follow the law, they are more likely to step to vote him out. due to table a vote of no confidence, bring down the government, try to find an alternative prime minister who could stand in his place and go and seek an extension themselves. i think revoking article 50 has been the final option, that is the most fail—safe way to stop no deal because you can do that without the
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agreement from the eu. but if they we re agreement from the eu. but if they were going to do that, with the problem we need to legislate to force the parameter to do that. and i don't know if they are ready for the numbers in the commons for them to do so. i think that is why the lineron to do so. i think that is why the liner on this extension bill in the first place because actually that is the only thing they could get a majority for. john brooks in crewe wants to know: if the uk gets a free trade deal with the eu, will that mean we don‘t need a backstop? if so, why can‘t we just start with a free trade deal? depends what the free trade deal size. free trade deals by themselves don‘t remove all the paraphernalia that you normally associate with the border. they may well remove tariffs on most or perhaps all goods being traded, but there are other things that happen at borders which don‘t happen, currently, at the irish border. the intention is always to say, "let‘s have a free trade deal and the irish border goes away." another one, that is difficult. number two, it will take a long time to negotiate. they are not done on the back of a fag packet, they are not done overnight. they are long
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and complex processes. the eu says that the theresa may government says isa that the theresa may government says is a temporary measure, to get you through to the free—trade agreement in the end. claudia lundt in sheffield asks: how much, roughly, has the build—up to brexit cost the uk so far, and what are the estimated costs for the period after we have left the eu? honestly, it is difficult to say. what we can say the covenant has put aside £8 billion to spend to prepare for no deal. —— the government has put aside £8 billion. head of march, there were 16,000 civil servants working on this. it is hard to calculate, the impact on the economy, it is hard to calculate the amount of money that businesses and individuals are having to spend in terms of preparing. and potentially dealing with any sort of results of no deal. and, interestingly, that £8.3 billion which is what the treasury has put aside so far, not that far off what we currently pay
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asa that far off what we currently pay as a net figure to the eu as budget contributions every year. kevin finn in manchester asks: would it make any difference in brexit negotiations if the uk removed the freedom of movement red line? yes, i mean, it would in the sense that the most difficult thing about the idea of staying in the single market as it means you have to accept the free movement of people. 0f accept the free movement of people. of course, the single market was very much a british creation. it was margaret thatcher who really push it through saying that this was the kind of thing the eu should be doing and making it easierfor us kind of thing the eu should be doing and making it easier for us to trade with each other. but it does involve accepting the free movement of people. so if they were to be compromise on that, and there is no sign that from this government, because i think they interpret one of the clear messages of the referendum being that we want more control over the way immigration is managed, but if that were to be removed, then, yes, it would problem we make it easier. michael dickinson in lancashire wants to know: if there was a second referendum and the leave vote won again, what would the government do? at the moment, the government is
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working on a policy of trying to ta ke working on a policy of trying to take the uk out of the eu because of the result of the referendum from 2016. the reason we haven't got to that point is because parliament is deadlocked and, as chris was saying, there is no majority in favour of any kind of brexit version. so it would be, i guess, a bolster for the government's position, but it wouldn't resolve the issue of trying to get a majority in parliament for something. i think that is where potentially general election would be more likely to try and move that down the road. i think if there were to bea down the road. i think if there were to be a second referendum, and it was a vote to leave again, some people would still campaign to remain, and that is their right. but i think remain, and that is their right. but ithink in remain, and that is their right. but i think in this parliament for example, ora i think in this parliament for example, or a future parliament, enough people say, "ok, we have done this twice, one of the argument has a lwa ys this twice, one of the argument has always been that there wasn‘t enough detailed knowledge the first time, i don‘t think you could argue that again."| don‘t think you could argue that again." i think there would be enough mps who would say that they don‘t agree with it but they would vote to get it done after two votes.
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and it would be important who tabled any referendum and the wording of it and whether, actually, leave with no deal would be on the ballot paper. the opposition are saying that they wa nted the opposition are saying that they wanted to be with a deal or remain. the thing is we don't know what the question would be. the electoral commission will be testing out questions to see what should be on the ballot paper. they would have to legislate in favour of a referendum, and that bill would have to go through both houses of parliament. it would be open to amendment. so some of the technical challenges of trying to hold another referendum is trying to hold another referendum is trying to hold another referendum is trying to resolve some of those questions. it has been suggested that you have a two stage process where you have leave flash remain and if remain one, then deal or no deal. but the challenges of trying to do that, that is a big issue. thank you both very much. thank you for your questions. we are just hearing that the labour leader jeremy corbyn has been talking about the prorogation of parliament and out by the government. he described it as disgraceful and said
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parliament should be sitting. mr corbyn added that the prime minister appears to want to run away from questions. the snp‘s westminster leader spoke to reporters on his way into a meeting of opposition parties this morning. we can see what he had to say. this is a constitutional crisis. amber rudd has made it clear that there are no meaningful discussions going on. there are real questions to be asked as to whether or not the prime minister will uphold the law. we have to make sure that the government recognises their responsibility, there are key questions that need to be answered. parliament should not be prorogued. the parliamentarians are sent here to do the parliamentarians are sent here todoa the parliamentarians are sent here to doajob, the parliamentarians are sent here to do a job, we should be sitting. especially through this constitutional crisis. it is an extraordinary set of circumstances. people need to know that it is a matter of law that the prime minister has the power, through the privy council, to shut parliament down. there really needs to be a review of the constitution of the
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uk. what you have is a prime minister who is, in effect, acting asa minister who is, in effect, acting as a dictator by shooting down the voices of elected parliamentarians. there is very limited time today for mps to get involved in what is going on here in westminster because parliament will be shutting down at the end of business today. we are just hearing that at around 3:35 pm, the speaker will be hearing applications for emergency debates understanding order 24 from dominic grieve under the yellowhammer documents. that will be an attempt by opposition mps to get documents that were compiled looking at readiness for a no—deal brexit and the implications of that. and also from jeremy corbyn on the rule of law. so that is some of the parliamentary business that will be happening later today. we will keep you updated here at live from westminster. but now back to the studio for a round—up of the day‘s other news. the biggest strike action in the history of british airways
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got under way this morning, causing disruption for tens of thousands of passengers. the airline has told customers not to turn up to airports, as pilots begin a two—day walk—out over pay and conditions. it‘s the first time ba pilots have walked out, and the action could cost the firm up to £40 million a day. ba‘s chief executive alex cruz told the bbc he apologised for the pilots‘ actions. ido i do know that british airways was losing a lot of money, it actually more than 4000 people, or not nearly 4000 people lost theirjobs. and really everyone at british airways took pay cuts and sacrifices, not just pilots. the company recognises that, and this is why this 11.5% deal, way above inflation, with an extra 1% for 2019, has been u nfortu nately rejected. extra 1% for 2019, has been unfortunately rejected. we think it isa unfortunately rejected. we think it is a very unfortunately rejected. we think it is a very generous unfortunately rejected. we think it is a very generous deal. that is the view from the airline, what about the passengers?
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passenger duncan lyon is in ibiza — he rebooked his cancelled flight out there, but says british airways owes him around £400 for it. the most frustrating part of british airways is trying to contact them. i have spent the last two weeks waiting to answer the phone, listening to recorded messages, and finally when you get through, you are told that your claim will be sent to the refund team. i have been told this five, six, seven occasions, not interested in anything. not interested in my refu nd anything. not interested in my refund whatsoever, it is just your claim will be escalated to our refu nd claim will be escalated to our refund team. totally disgusted, no one has any contact or to me, not an e—mail, nothing. i have to phone them continually to try to get my money back. british airways, you are a disgrace, and your customer service is poor. one frustrated customer there. the uk economy grew by 0.3%
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in july compared to june, according to the office for national statistics. the economy picked up more than expected, easing fears of the first recession since the financial crisis as brexit looms. the figures showed the expansion was driven by the services sector. around 125 firefighters have been tackling a blaze which engulfed a four—storey block of flats in london overnight. crews were called to worcester park in south—west london in the early hours of this morning. the london ambulance service said no injuries had been reported. earlier the london fire brigade gave this update. currently, none fire brigade have got 20 fire engines and hundred and 25 firefighters on scene dealing with the fire. there are also surrounding fire crews from surrey fire and rescue services who are supporting gun fire brigade at this incident. the course of the fire is
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currently under investigation, and london fire brigade received 29 calls to this incident. one resident told the bbc he was just happy to get out of the building with his family. welcome to the sound of crackling, we nt welcome to the sound of crackling, went to my back door and opened the curtains and saw the flames and got myself and my family out. that was at about1:30am. i myself and my family out. that was at about 1:30am. i am to thank all we got there family out. all of us are, we got there family out. all of us are , everyone we got there family out. all of us are, everyone is safe. whatever is in there, we will have to just get back somehow, some way. but as long as we are safe, i suppose. officials in the bahamas have defended their response to hurricane dorian after it devastated parts of the island chain last week, killing at least 43 people. residents on the abaco islands have accused the government of failing to provide assistance and prevent looting. officials denied there had been any cover up of number of fatalities. the death toll is likely to rise
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as hundreds, possibly thousands, of people are still missing. gareth barlow reports. this is the devastation wrought by hurricane dorian. the mud, a shantytown built over decades — it took the storm just hours to rip it to shreds. across the archipelago, 70,000 people are said to be in urgent need of food and water, the basics of life, a week after dorian hit. there are parts of abaco and the bahamas that don‘t show a great deal of damage and then there of clusters and communities that were devastated. almost as though nuclear bombs were dropped on them. aboard this caribbean cruise ship, they are making sandwiches as fast as they can. all part of a massive effort to get supplies to those who bore the brunt of the storm. in some areas, virtually every building has been damaged, if not destroyed. others are scrambling to escape as conditions deteriorate. some have already been evacuated to the capital nassau, leaving behind an island without water or electricity
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and the stench of death is filling the air. hundreds and possibly thousands are still missing. dorian brought the sea to the land and the land to the sea. its nearly two—day rampage, the worst hurricane people here can remember. having weakened since then, dorian has now reached canada, bringing heavy rain to nova scotia. from there it is due to head out to sea to the relief of those unlucky enough to have found themselves caught up in its destructive path. gareth barlow, bbc news. the pop starjesy nelson is calling for tougher consequences for online trolls. the little mix singer revealed in a bbc documentary that she tried to take her own life because of the cruel comments. she‘s been speaking to chi chi izundu. the winner of the x factor 2011 is... it should have been a moment ofjoy. ..little mix.
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but, after the cameras had stopped rolling and the celebrations should have started, jesy nelson was reading messages online. there were so many messages, nasty ones. but the one that was at the top was from, like, a random man. and, yeah, he was just saying how disgusting i am, and that i don‘t deserve to be in the girl band, and that i deserved to die. how do you feel when you post on instagram? jesy says she still gets abuse on social media, but four years ago, the comments affected her so much she started missing work, fell into a depression, and attempted suicide. now, when i look back on it, i can‘t believe i even did that. but when you‘re in that state of mind, you just — you don‘t think about, like, what you‘re going to leave behind, or the people you‘re going to have an effect on. you just want to take that pain away. that‘s all you care about. the documentary also highlights how her attempt affected the other band members.
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because every single person who said those things should have been held accountable for making her feel like that. but bullying doesn‘t happen just to those in the public eye. one in five 12—15—year—olds had experienced some kind of online bullying, and according to one charity, a joint multi—agency response is what is needed to combat it. this is not only about celebrities. this is about everyone, which is why we need a collective response. because we have young people who are unable to go to school, young people who are changing school, young people who are missing out on education, who have long—term mental health impacts, because of bullying. jesy is now off some social media. she wants stronger consequences for those who send abuse, but hopes her candid admission about her suicide attempt will show the harm cyberbullying can cause.
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i feel like people that do troll other people are people that obviously are not happy within themselves, because ijust can‘t understand why anyone would want to make someone feel bad for no apparent reason, especially when you don‘t even know them. but now, mentally, i know how to deal with it. but back then i didn‘t. you can watch the documentary called "odd pne out" on bbc one at 9pm on thursday, and also on the bbc iplayer. a new report suggests that malaria could be completely eradicated within a generation. the disease affects more than 200 million people each year, and kills mostly young children. the analysis, published in the lancet, suggests that — with an increase in effort — a world free of malaria could be within reach. 15 years ago, the bbc‘s security correspondent, frank gardner, was shot by al-qaeda gunmen while on assignment in saudi arabia. he has used a wheelchair ever since.
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a competent water skier before his injury, the idea of ever doing it again seemed a challenge too farfor frank — until he heard of "adaptive water skiing". let‘s take a look at how he got on. how do you water—ski when you can‘t use your legs? i‘m frank gardner, and i use a wheelchair because i got shot while on a bbc assignment in saudi arabia 15 years ago. i‘ve done a lot of skiing, snow skiing. it‘s called adaptive skiing. i used to water—ski before my injuries, but water—skiing has always just been that one challenge too far. i‘ve avoided it, i‘ve dodged it, i‘ve ducked it all these years. there is a charity called access adventures that gets disabled people like myself into the water to give it a try. the first challenge is going to be struggling into the wet suit, and that is a challenge in itself.
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i have just put my leg through the arm of the wet suit. i feel like a kind of beached seal. ok, second challenge is getting into the actual kit that i‘m going to ski in. so this is called an adaptive water—ski, which, as you can see, it‘s got a kind of fixed seat attached to it, which i‘m now going to get myself into. how does it feel being back in the water? well, cold and wet. hit it! it‘s a big moment where you feel that tug on the rope and the boat accelerates in front of you. and suddenly you‘re up, surging out of the water, you‘ve got spray all round you. you‘re skiing on the water, it‘s unnatural. 01:54:47,239 --> 2147483052:34:08,335 it is exhilarating, it‘s 2147483052:34:08,335 --> 4294966103:13:29,430 totally exhilarating.
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