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this is bbc news. the headlines at 8pm. anti—brexit mps demand that parliament be recalled, after scotland's seniorjudges rule the prime minister's decision to suspend it for five weeks is unlawful. the advice given by the government to her majesty the queen to prorogue parliament from 9 september to m october was unlawful. and therefore, the prorogation itself is unlawful. chanting: shame on you, shame on you! the case was brought by a group of opposition mps in protest against monday's five—week suspension of parliament. now for every moment parliament remains prorogued, the british government are breaking the law. so we, as politicians, are calling for politician to be recalled so that we can get on with scrutinising what this government is up
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to in relation to brexit. labour's deputy leader tom watson calls for the party to prioritise another eu referendum over a general election, contradicting his leader, jeremy corbyn. a man has been arrested on suspicion of attempted murder after a young boy was rescued from a river in greater manchester — he remains critically ill in hospital. more migrants are picked up crossing the channel after what's believed to be the highest number in a single day yesterday. and is there life on this distant planet? why scientists think there could be on exo—planet k218b.
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good evening. dozens of mps have been protesting outside parliament this afternoon, demanding its immediate recall, after scottish judges dramatically ruled that the current suspension of parliament is illegal. the verdict of scotland's highest civil court is that the prime minister is attempting to prevent mps' scrutiny of the government's brexit plans. and we are just hearing tonight that the government has rejected a demand from parliament for the release of internal communications between the prime minister's top advisers over the decision to suspend parliament. in a letter from the cabinet minister michael gove to the former conservative mp dominic grieve, mr gove writes that the request was "unprecedented, inappropriate and disproportionate.". borisjohnson has repeatedly claimed that the five week suspension is just normal practise. also in the last few minutes, the government has published its operation yellowhammer
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"reasonable worst case planning assumptions" in the event of a no—deal brexit, in response to mps voting for it to happen. our political editor laura kuenssberg sent this from westminster. judgment day. in scotland's court of session, a clear verdict on borisjohnson. each opinion expresses the view that the advice given by the government to her majesty the queen to prorogue parliament from 9 september to 1a october was unlawful and that therefore, the prorogation itself is unlawful. in plain language, thejudges concluded number ten broke the law by telling the queen they wanted to suspend parliament for a break before unveiling their plans for government. cheering. when opposition mps, jubilant at the ruling, suspected, in fact, they wanted to close down parliament to avoid difficult questions on brexit.
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for every moment parliament remains prorogued, the british government are breaking the law. so we, as politicians, are calling for a parliament to be recalled, so that we can get on with scrutinising what this government is up to in relation to brexit. the court did not specifically order the government to open up the commons. but some mps who had packed upjust yesterday rushed back to demand it gets going again, taking their places in protest on the green benches in the empty chamber. with an impromptu rally at the doors. we have shown in the last ten days that we are prepared to work together across parties in the national interest, and our resolve remains absolutely firm that we will do that. what do you actually propose to do now? are you all going to stay here in the palace of westminster? are you going to go and sit in the chamber? we're going to go back into the building, we all have jobs to be doing, meetings to be taking place, constituents to be representing, and ultimately
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we will find other ways of holding this government to account. labour, too, is pressing the prime ministerfor a return. whatever happens next week, we will continue to press for parliament to be recalled, so that we can question the prime minister. hang on, though. scottish law is different to english law and the high court in london reached the opposite conclusion in a similar case brought by the businesswoman gina millerjust days ago, deciding the prime minister's decision to close the commons was actually none of the court's business. number ten will appeal, a final verdict will be given by the uk supreme court next tuesday, but this is as extraordinary as it is serious. the prime minister's actions are found to have been against the law, downing street ruled to have misled the queen. less than two months into office, borisjohnson has hurtled into a genuine constitutional clash. number ten denied they'd suggested the scottish judges had been somehow biased and, for now, cabinet ministers are reluctant to be
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drawn into the tangle. i'm not going to comment on an ongoing legislative process, a judicial issue and no doubt it will be appealed. government insiders are curiously relaxed about the ruling and some mps and ministers reckon they'll still have many of the public on their side. the government have acted legally, constitutionally and in normality. farcical. absolutely and completely, not for the government, for the whole place, you know. the fact of the matter is the people said we want to leave the european union, and this place says we don't! that frustration is what downing street's banking on. a serious and important defeat in court for them today, but it seems lining up to take on parliament is almost part of their ruthless approach. laura kuenssberg, bbc news, westminster. in the last few minutes, documents on the government's preparations for a no—deal brexit have been published. our political correspondent
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chris mason is in westminster. have you had a chance to look at all the key lines? i have, here are the documents. we got a flavour of what was in the leaks to a sunday newspaper a little while ago. but here they are in plain and blunt english. the government reminds us with the publication of these documents, this is a reasonable worst—case scenario, they say, rather than a prediction for no deal. nonetheless, as i say, it is pretty stark. it acknowledges that there are no one—on—one new so—called bilateral relationships arranged between the uk and any eu member states, and public and business readiness for a new deal —— no deal remains at a low level. looking at the various sectors they think might be affected, in particular at the cross channel flows between dover and calais, predicting that on day one after no deal between 50 and 85% of lorries travelling via what is known as the
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short channel straight may not be ready for french customs. there could be a reduced in the flow rate, lorries going back from 40—60% of current levels within one day. and that could last for up to three months before it improves to around 50-70%, months before it improves to around 50—70%, improving potentially to half of what it currently is. talked about a potential maximum delay for lorries between 1.5 — 2.5 days to be able to cross the border. further delays it suggests could happen, saint pancras and london and and over, and the channel tunnel port as well. a couple other sectors to mention, medicines — medicines are particularly reliant on their import into the uk via the channel streets there with prospects of what they describe as "severe extended delays" because three quarters of medicines come into the country via that route. on food, come into the country via that route. onfood, certain come into the country via that route. on food, certain types of fresh fruit supplies will decrease,
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it says. these factors will not cause an overall shortage of food in the uk, but will reduce availability and choice and will increase price. there is also a sense, albeit a fairly localised one, that there could be an issue around public water supply because of the supply of chemicals needed in the cleansing of chemicals needed in the cleansing of water. it says the likelihood of this happening is considered low and the impact localised, affecting up to the hundreds of thousands of people. one final line on trade with the prospect of tariffs, import taxes being an issue, it says that the expectation is some businesses. trading or relocate to avoid paying tariffs, which will make them uncompetitive or risk having to trade illegally. the agri— food sector will be particularly hard hit and relieved to a growth of an illegitimate, the macroeconomy, the black market. one final detail, the
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final paragraph about adult social care. you don't think it would have an immediate impact or be impacted immediately by brexit, but this report suggests that an increase in inflation, the cost of goods, following the exit on no deal terms could significantly impact adult social care providers who are already in a fragile state, which could mean that some failures provide... some larger ones with and for having six months. the beginnings of a sense they are of a scale of potential impact of a no—deal brexit. in a reasonable no —— worst—case scenario, britain is reduced by the government. that's quite sobering, isn't it? you could see why they didn't want to publish it, even though it was at the behest of the vote of mps on monday. it, even though it was at the behest of the vote of mp5 on monday. they clearly did not want this to see the
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light of day. their argument is that they do not want people to see this asa they do not want people to see this as a government prediction. they think things will not be as bad as this, but nonetheless, they've had to scope out the range of possible outcomes, and clearly this falls within the range, albeit at the more negative end of the spectrum. one other document we've received tonight is an exchange of letters between michael gove, the cabinet minister, the duchy of lancaster, in exchange he has had with dominic g reve, exchange he has had with dominic greve, the former conservative mp who was speaking in parliament the other night private communications of civil servants in downing street and elsewhere about the question of provoking parliament. the comments back that idea of the publication of these whatsapp messages and what have you. the government is saying tonight that this won't touch it will not publish them, it would be illegitimate to publish them and put them ina illegitimate to publish them and put them in a situation where they could contravene the law. and it is ministers who are accountable, rather than civil servants. that
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attempt to get a hold of private munication has been rejected, but the real details or grabbing attention. the public —— publication of these documents reveal their fears of the worst—case scenario of a no—deal brexit. fears of the worst—case scenario of a no-deal brexit. going back to yellow hammer, i'm looking at a line which deals with the impact of uk nationals now —— yellowhammer. you've dealt with a long list of the potential problems on this side of the channel, but on that side of the channel, yellowhammer says uk nationals will lose their eu citizenship and as a result can expect to lose associated rights and access to services over time, or be required to access them on a different basis. so there's a whole lot of worry people on that side of the channel, as well. there really is. they are a lobby group that have often felt ignored because they are secondary to the uk national debate
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and secondary inevitably to the debates raging within the domestic politics of the country they now call home. in reality, that prescription of the government in this scenario is that they are effectively saying they don't know what will happen, but it could get worse. that is the blunt, plain english translation of what they are saying. and that ultimately is the unvarnished truth, because if there is no deal, no overarching arrangement between the uk in the eu, then these relationships between individual countries in the uk, which for so long have been bound within the concept of the eu, of which both countries have been a part, will no longer exist. so that bilateral one—to—one relationship of the uk and the eu member states will have to start pretty much from scratch. the very terms under which brits living currently in the eu will not only vanish overnight, but it is not remotely clear in this scenario what they will be replaced
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with. chris, i will let scenario what they will be replaced with. chris, iwill let you scenario what they will be replaced with. chris, i will let you go in peru is that in greater detail, and also get some reaction to it and come back to us later. thanks very much. let's get more on that ruling at the court of session this morning. i'm joined by aileen mcharg, professor of public law at strathclyde university. thanks so much forjoining us. know your assessment of where this leads us, the ruling? it's a very significant ruling, very unexpected ruling. technically the government is in breach of the law, as declared by the court of session, by not reconvening parliament. however we know that that appeal is taking place to the supreme court next week, and so it is possible that this decision will be reversed by the supreme court. it's interesting you say it is possible. i've heard certain legal experts commenting
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that it certain legal experts commenting thatitis certain legal experts commenting that it is unlikely possibly, given that it is unlikely possibly, given that this was a ruling on a matter of fa ct that this was a ruling on a matter of fact — and that is harder for the supreme court to overturn? what is your view on that? two issues are at sta ke your view on that? two issues are at stake here. firstly, the inner house had to decide whether or not the decision wasjust a had to decide whether or not the decision was just a symbol, which means something the court is able to pronounce on. the outer house decision of lord dockerty in scotla nd decision of lord dockerty in scotland and the high court decision in the... they decided it was not just a symbol. that is a matter of law, not fact. having decided that the decision was notjusticeable has been exercised by improper purpose. now that is kind of a mixed question
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of fa ct now that is kind of a mixed question of fact to law because the court has to decide what is a proper purpose for which this power ought to be exercised, or what counts as an improper purpose. it is not purely a question of fact, there are important issues of law and printable at stake here. obviously it puzzles some viewers that differentjudges can it puzzles some viewers that different judges can take it puzzles some viewers that differentjudges can take different views on these issues. how is that? at what level is the law the law? mainly this is a completely unprecedented situation. no court has ever been asked to rule on this question before, so thejudges have to reach their own conclusion as to what the correct legal answer is. but it is also perfectly common for judges in different court levels to reach different conclusions on the same legal issues, even judges reach different conclusions on the same legal issues, evenjudges in the same court sometimes have split majority and minority decisions.
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just quickly on next week, i'm sure you will be cautious about predicting, but if the supreme court we re predicting, but if the supreme court were to agree with the court of session of edinburgh, what are the constitutional legal implications of that? there is no further appeal from the decision of the supreme court, so if the supreme court decides the prorogation is unlawful, it is unlawful. and the government ought to comply with that. which means? which means that if they don't comply with it, they are at risk of being found in contempt of court. and there is authority to the effect that the government ministers can be held in contempt of court if they disobey a court order, and the penalties for contempt of court are a fine penalties for contempt of court are afine or penalties for contempt of court are a fine or potentially imprisonment. no government minister has ever been subject to a fine or imprisonment from the court, but there is a first for everything. they will recall
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parliament possibly? the prorogation will be null, it is unlawful to be treated in the law if it has never taken place. so parliament would com pletely taken place. so parliament would completely just resume the taken place. so parliament would completelyjust resume the session. and does the queen have to do anything? know, because the order in council provoking parliament would be of no effect. a fascinating moment, a fascinating development. thank you so much forjoining us. thank you so much forjoining us. thank you. the headlines on bbc news. in the past few minutes, the government has published documents relating to operation yellowhammer, the contingency planning in case of a no—deal brexit. anti—brexit mps demand that parliament be recalled — after scotland's seniorjudges rule the prime minister's decision to suspend it for five weeks is unlawful. labour's deputy leader tom watson calls for the party to prioritise another eu referendum over a general election, contradicting
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jeremy corbyn. sport and for a full round up, from the bbc sport centre, here's chetan pathak. good evening. jason roy has been dropped for the final ashes test that starts at the oval tomorrow. the england batsman opened for the first three tests, before moving down the order last time out but he has averaged just 1a in the series. ben stokes willjust play as a batsman as england look to draw the series. craig overton also misses out after just one test. chris woakes and sam curran come into the side. for roy though — it's not the end of his test career according to the captain. he's had an opportunity to come and play test cricket, get a feel for it. it's not quite gone how he would like, but i am sure he will go away, work extremely hard and come back again. that's what you expect of
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quys again. that's what you expect of guys when they get left out, and i'm sure he will have the attitude and wa nt to sure he will have the attitude and want to try and prove a point and get himself back in. have you spoken him personally about it? yes. when you leave someone him personally about it? yes. when you leave someone out, you obviously have those conversations. and he's very, very aware of where he's at and what he needs to do to get himself at the best place to perform in test cricket. there've been three gold medals for great britain on the third day of the world para—swimming championships in london. britain's alice tai has won her third gold of the championships. she finished first in the 100 metres butterfly, just ahead ofjessica long of the united states. and more british success with maisie summers—newton winning gold in the 200 metres individual medley. she smashed the world record in the process. clearly happy with that. disappointment meanwhile for ellie simmonds though, she finished out of the medals in fourth place. gold too for louise fiddes in the women's100 metres breaststroke. she set a new championship record in that race. there have been silver medals
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for scott quinn in the men's 100 metres breastroke, and toni shaw in the women's 100 metres butterfly it's the start of the first knockout round in the women's champions league. glasgow city made a 2,000—mile trip to moscow to play chertanovo women, it was worth it though as they won 1—0, hayley lauder with the goal. the other scottish club in the competition hibernian are hosting slavia prague in the first leg of their tie this evening. they came through qualifying to reach the last 32. and hibs took less than three minutes to take the lead. siobhan hunter pouncing on a loose ball. 1—0, they lead after half an hour's play. salafi of prague havejust salafi of prague have just scored, it is currently 1—1. europe and the united states are stepping up their preparations for the solheim cup which begins on friday. the europeans are aiming to regain the trophy with captain catriona matthew saying it would be the greatest moment
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of her career if they were able to win it at gleneagles. one of those in her team is england's bronte law who's competing in herfirst solheim cup. obviously there's a lot of players with a lot of cup experience, so i will be looking to them to kind of help guide us through the week and provide us with any advice here and there, of certain experiences that they've experienced. but you know, just going out and being myself, and hopefully will provide a lot of support to my team—mates, as well. dylan groonewegan has won three of the five stages so far at the tour of britain. the dutchman came first in the final sprint into birkenhead today. british rider matt walls wasn't far behind, and a day after losing the leaders' green jersey, matteo trentin regained the overall lead after coming third. that's all the sport for now. i'll have more for you in sportsday at 10.30pm.
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for now, back to you. amidst the fallout from parliament's suspension, northern ireland business leaders have met with the prime minister at a reception in downing street. earlier, a new group representing businesses in northern ireland launched vision 2030 — a 10—year plan that aims to create 65,000 newjobs by 2030. colin neill, ceo of one of the organisations involved in the strategyjoins us now. it's lovely to talk to you. i kinda feel sorry for you, trying to launch with the strategic vision when nobody in westminster seems to be able to think beyond the end of their nose is popular i think it's important that some of the reasons we are here — brexit is drowning out everything. there are so many other important things, particularly in the northern are in context, meaning it would re—energize our economy and really drive us forward the next ten
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yea rs. really drive us forward the next ten years. —— and northern ireland. you have to keep fighting regardless of what is going on. i totally get what you are saying. it must be hard to create a strategic plan and have it last more than five minutes, given the uncertainty of everything. we we re the uncertainty of everything. we were talking earlier about operation yellowhammer and the worst case scenario planning, how difficult that all is. how do you try to devise a ten year strategy in the midst of all that? i think we have one advantage over government. our businesses are here for the long—term, we are not running for election. many of my members and our businesses in northern ireland have beenin businesses in northern ireland have been in operation for hundreds of yea rs, been in operation for hundreds of years, but we will still be here when the government is gone. we do 0k when the government is gone. we do ok without them, but if we can bring our government on board, then we can do so much better. is there any point in having a reception with the prime minister? do you think he was giving you his full attention? we can tell them and tell them again.
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we went to number ten, we went to westminster. i held firmly the dutch held firmly the prime minister's hand. what did you tell him? basically we outlined our thing, but we said unequivocably that northern ireland needs a deal. we cannot leave europe without one, and we just are reinforcing that at every opportunity. and when you said that, what did he do? did he repeat his promise that he is trying his best? he did indeed, and when he spoke at the event, he again reiterated that he wants a deal and he will get a deal. do you believe him? i mean, he is the prime minister. he said it, i have no doubt — i have no evidence to the contrary, but we have to make sure he actually gets a deal. and how will you do that?” sure he actually gets a deal. and how will you do that? i think it is about just continuously how will you do that? i think it is aboutjust continuously giving him the facts, the details. and we
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actually need to make the case — business in northern ireland is a political. we don't get into the constitution over a backstop, we are pure economics, that is our mandate, and we have all the evidence to say why we need a deal. good luck to all the businesses of northern ireland, thank you very much for giving us your analysis there. turning to non—politics, non—brexiteers. a man has been arrested on suspicion of attempting to murder a child rescued from a river in bury this afternoon. the boy was pulled from the river irwell in radcliffe shortly before half past four this afternoon. greater manchester police say it's not clear how the child, who remains in a critical condition in hospital came to be in the water, but investigations are underway. two small boats thought to be carrying around 20 migrants have been picked up by coastguards today in the channel. it comes after 86 people
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were intercepted crossing the channel yesterday, believed to be the highest number in a single day. our correspondent colin campell has been following the story. rescued in rough seas, from sinking inflatable dinghies, the migrants wrapped in blankets were pulled to safety, ten miles off dover. they had attempted to cross the english channel in two small boats, starting the perilousjourney in the dark. this was a tragedy that was very narrowly avoided. they were in an unorthodox craft, a very small craft, they were taking on water, they were wet, they were cold, they were frightened, one of them was unconscious, there was a young child on board with his mother. in need of urgent medical attention, six were taken by the rnli to ramsgate harbour. lucky to be alive, it seems one of the migrants was airlifted to hospital in a critical condition. yesterday, the channel was much calmer and a record number of migrants arrived in small boats. abandoned on a sussex beach, this is one of the six
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boats that was used. 86 migrants in total made it across, claiming to be from iran, afghanistan, pakistan and the philippines. what i saw was them immediately get out of the boat and run up the beach, and they ran across into the fields and then just tried to get across over the marsh. all were later detained by border officials. where are you from? you are iranian? more than 1,200 migrants have reached the uk by crossing the channel this year. although it is a relatively small proportion of the number arriving illegally, many are concerned at the dangers and risks posed by this route. last week, in dunkirk, i found migrants waiting for smugglers to get them to the uk. this 19—year—old from iraq was refused asylum in holland. there is a boat, there is a truck, and we'll see which one is available, i'll enter with it. but maybe a boat. you'd be willing to get on board a boat? yeah. it's dangerous but i
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don't have a choice. some say smugglers are seeking to drum up business in the migrant camps, by falsely claiming brexit will tighten up security. smugglers, you know, because of the uncertainty of the situation, say to migrants, you know, if there is a brexit, if the uk leaves the eu, you will not ever be able to cross the channel. i mean, it's a lie. using drones and night—vision equipment, french police are patrolling beaches where the migrant boats are being launched. they say they are doing all they can. it is a battle to stop desperate people who are, it seems, willing to risk it all. colin campbell, bbc news, ramsgate. now it's time for a look at the weather with ben rich. just a reminder, we have seen the publication of the yellowhammer documents which set out the worst case scenario planning for a no—deal brexit contingency. we will be talking about them more in the next few minutes. we have a couple
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political analysts coming in — they we re political analysts coming in — they were coming into talk about labour strategic planning for the general election and so on. but we will also discover the macro discussed yellowhammer with them because there's lots we need to analyse about those documents, which the government until that point of publication just now did not particularly wa nt publication just now did not particularly want everyone to be reading because it said it would just concern the public to read worst case scenarios that weren't likely to happen. now it's time for a look at the weather with ben rich. hello, good evening. today's weather came courtesy of the remnants of what was hurricane dorian. it brought some brisk winds, a bit of rain in places, but most of the daytime showers fading away now. through tonight, a lot of dry weather, some clear spells to be had, although, cloud will tend to thicken up across wales in the southwest, the odd spot of drizzle here. and then late in the night, we see rain approaching northern ireland and western scotland. this is our next weather makerfor tomorrow. this is also an ex—tropical weather system, the remnants of what was tropical storm
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gabrielle, bringing outbreaks of rain across northern ireland and scotland. that rain then sinking southwards into northern england, parts of wales through the day, although that rain will tend to fizzle. to the southeast of that, some pretty warm and humid air. to the northwest, things turn cooler and fresher. it will be windy for all of us, but you can see the range in the temperatures. 15 degrees for aberdeen, 18 for belfast, and may be up to 2a across parts of the southeast. as we look further ahead, a fresher day for all of us on friday, the weekend, mainly dry for most, but some rain at times in the north of the uk. hello this is bbc news. the headlines. in the past hour, the government has published documents relating to operation yellowhammer, the contingency planning in case of a no—deal brexit. parliament had demanded the documents' release last week. anti—brexit mps demand that parliament be recalled, after scotland's seniorjudges rule the prime minister's decision to suspend it
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for five weeks is unlawful. chanting: shame on you, shame on you! the case was brought by a group of opposition mps in protest against monday's five week suspension of parliament. labour's deputy leader tom watson calls for the party to prioritise another eu referendum over a general election — contradicting his leaderjeremy corbyn. a man has been arrested on suspicion of attempted murder after a young boy was rescued from a river in greater manchester — he remains critically ill in hospital. more migrants are picked up crossing the channel after what's believed to be the highest number in a single day yesterday. as we've been reporting, the labour party's brexit strategy has come under pressure today. deputy leader tom watson made a speech this morning, saying the party needs to have a referendum before
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a general election and campaign "unambiguously" to remain in the eu. that contradictsjeremy corbyn, who has promised a referendum after an election, with leave and remain on the ballot paper. mr corbyn says mr watson's remarks are not official labour policy. our deputy political editor, john pienaar reports: they are a leader and deputy of the same party, though today you would hardly know it. jeremy corbyn keeping open the question, "does labour back leave or remain?" and tom watson facing the other way. today, unlike his leader, he wanted another referendum before the election and a campaign to stay in. his way to win back lost supporters at election time. they just want us to take an unequivocal position, that whatever happens, we will fight to remain, and to sound like we mean it. and if we did, we could win. whereas, if we don't, i fear we won't.
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mr corbyn doesn't want to upset leave or remain voters, even if that upsets his deputy. it is tom's view. i don't accept it and i don't agree with it. our priority is to get a general election, in order to give the people a chance to elect a government that cares for them, not themselves. at the tuc in brighton, mr corbyn's gathered support among union leaders. his biggest supporter‘s counter strike at tom watson wasn't just political, it was personal. now and again, tom pops up from wherever he's been hiding and comes up with something, instead of supporting his leader, it's normally to try and undermine him, and i don't know why he does it. less and less people listen to him. if he wants to continue to languish on the fringes of the labour party, that's up to him, but his views don't really matter any more. for months, mr corbyn has been under pressure from mps and within his own shadow cabinet to come down more clearly on the remain of the debate. his inner circle see tom watson
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as a political enemy, posing as a loyal colleague. but this rift mirrors a broader split, betweenjeremy corbyn and many pro—eu party members in the country. leeds north west is a battle ground, between labour and the anti—brexit lib dems. a harder pro—remain policy here might please some voters, but not all. hopefully, yeah. i'd like to think it would. i think there are a lot of people that were misinformed and i think now, with everything that's happened with brexit, i think it's time that, yeah, i think we should remain. i think it would be welcomed. why? i think there's a feeling that we are proud to be european. i normally vote labour but this time, i will vote for either nigel farage or borisjohnson, whoever wants to get us out of europe, because watson and jeremy corbyn are just useless. they do not believe in democracy or the will of the people.
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jeremy corbyn may well get his way in this struggle, but labour's annual conference is just over a week away and the strains will be on show. john pienaar, bbc news. more on this, former political secretary to tony blair. also the writer and broadcaster, dawn foster. but before we talk labour, which of course is what we asked you to talk about, i want you to address the yellow hammer documents, just saw those in the last half hour or so, who wants to go first? don, what do you think? i think it's incredible, obviously it's worst case scenario, but you look through it, you see that it may be delayed, and it points out that people on low incomes will be the most affected, because fresh food, manage may —— medicine is a huge problem, so poor people
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actually feel the direction the most. lam most. i am struck by the reference to christmas and the food supply. so christmas and the food supply. so christmas is going to be cancelled? is that going to be one of the consequences of an is that going to be one of the consequences of an ordeal brexit? and there is a little comment about the numberof and there is a little comment about the number of fisheries and fractions that might come, the numberof fractions that might come, the number of vessels that might come in to the uk waters. i understand from senior civil servants, that actually the biggest fear is that the french fleet will blockade to overcome and make everything much worse, because that's what the french do. they don't come into your waters and for sure fish, theyjust come in and make your problems worse. so we may have a blockade for the first time. imean have a blockade for the first time. i mean that would be very, that would surely be beyond worst case, to be that antagonistic? well, in no—deal, we will be borrowing all french vessels from british waters, but they will claim to have existing rates, pre—existing the common market to fish in the fisheries. and we see what french farmers do on the french streets, who would doubt that macron would back them if they did
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that quiz... 's the other thing, we are saying that andrea letson, the business secretary, she repeatedly said, you know, we don't want to distress people, or worry people, this is a worst case scenario. my worst case is i could go out in the road and be hit by a car, but i don't expect that to happen. you know, in a way, that's a fair point, isn't it? we can't over exist, can we? know, exactly. and i think when you look through it, you realise it isa you look through it, you realise it is a worst case scenario. one thing that really strikes you when you look through their is that nobody knows what is going to happen. if we have no—deal, absolutely nobody understands pretty much what will happen, anything could happen, we could have a huge food shortage, it may be completely fine, but nobody knows what will happen, so you know, government officials decide to go to no—deal, essentiallyjust throwing aside, we have no idea what will happen. it looks very fragile, i think that everybody, you know, who may be disrupted by this will be very, very worried. i think the
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shocking thing is, it's not really a worst—case scenario. shocking thing is, it's not really a worst—case scenario. it's a planned for scenario. the government are saying that they are willing to do no—deal, which means they are willing to do this. which is not really akin to being careful crossing the road, it's more akin to getting drunk and then running across a busy motorway. although, obviously, you have got a party political dimension to your kind of ta ke political dimension to your kind of take on this, i suppose, which turns, let's just turn the corner into labour woes, although labour difficulties. do they have woes, or do you not put as strong as that? of the kind of difference... it might surprise you to say that i think the last few weeks have seen jeremy corbyn looking increasingly statesman—like as he deals with the public issues in the parliament, i think is real problems are internal. his problems are with handling the labour coalition, and you see him really saying what mccluskey wants, because he's a bit of a brexiteer, he'sa because he's a bit of a brexiteer, he's a left—wing person who wants to leave... senior unionist. and they, you know, at a low party conference,
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you know, at a low party conference, you will see jeremy tacking a bit to the members and the activists who actually want to stay in the european union. that's labour style. it's trying to ride two courses. i know he said if you cannot write just my courses at once, you cannot be in the circus. i think this is a tension inside the labour party, and it's making the message try to understand, i think. , it's making the message try to understand, ithink. , and we heard and john pr's report there, kind of talking as if tom watson as some marginal figure, talking as if tom watson as some marginalfigure, but is talking as if tom watson as some marginal figure, but is that fair? i think so. i agree withjohn that the last few weeks have actually seen the last few weeks have actually seen labour rare kind of pull together. it feels as if for the first time, it may be ten years, all of the factions have kind of come together, jeremy corbyn practically slaughtered boris johnson in together, jeremy corbyn practically slaughtered borisjohnson in prime ministers questions, and i think ordinarily, if tom watson came out and complained it would be a lot of coverage, but it's been relatively quiet. people haven't really responded to it, and i think it's because labour has really pulled together just to attack the
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conservatives. so you are both saying, this construction on offence, thatjeremy corbyn has built for himself, i'm not sure we would call the structure on the fence, but that it is going to work. it's sustainable, john was blue i don't think it's sustainable in the long term. but the issue at the moment is, where we started really, is that the government are under pressure. of the government have put themselves under pressure, it's the government who went into a debate in the house of commons with the majority one, and left with a majority one, and left with a majority of —40. so in a sense, the biggest missed calculation the government strategy is boris johnson said is do or die, getting out of the european union, it's do or die for him, and he saidjeremy the european union, it's do or die for him, and he said jeremy corbyn, would you like tell me to the sink was megan jeremy corbyn said would you like tell me to the sink was meganjeremy corbyn said i'm your opponent, i would like the other option. can i help you with the other option? and i think, while the other option? and i think, while the biggest trick that boris johnson can do, if he resigned on the 19th and said tojeremy corbyn, form a government, you asked for the
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extension. i think that would put jeremy corbyn in a very... 19th of september? of october, when parliament comes back. i think at the moment, jeremy has got a party that wants to stay, he would quite like to leave. he would like the leaving to be done by borisjohnson. so it's kind of you go first, going on at the moment as well. so i think that's one of the issues. the leadership of both parties is in tension with its own parliamentary membership, with mps, it's also in tension with the country. because if you look at many of the johnson strategy, it's to get the breaks of party voters to support the brexit party actually wa nt support the brexit party actually want no—deal, and brexit party want yellow hammer. for them, want no—deal, and brexit party want yellow hammer. forthem, it's actually the best case scenario, i wished for, longed for, anything less than no—deal is a bit of a betrayal. so i think there is a lot of things working out in the politics now, and we are going to get lots of commentary from people like us, and lots of speculation about what's next, well we have got this rule, this court ruling as well in the mix. so there is that, but
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dawn coming back tojeremy corbyn and tom watson, they have got their conference moment coming back, and you know, they go on and on about what democratic party they are. is that going to be a difficult moment forjeremy corbyn, we hear about how many labour members want remain, does he have to break them at conference, what is the message about sitting on offence there? well i think that actually this might be the best conference for labour, because, you know, conservatives have completely fallen apart. labour go first, have a week where everybody is looking at their party. i think that what they will do is look at the membership as the membership, what they want, and present themselves as a party that are run by, run by members, have radical ideas, and will push very, very ha rd to radical ideas, and will push very, very hard to have an election to actually try and break the deadlock. well, it is fascinating to have you both here. i mean we could sit and talk about all of these things all evening, and there is so many things that we haven't had time to talk about, but anyway, thank you so much for coming in and talking about
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yellow hammer, and talking about labour in general, politics. now we are going to leave all of us for a moment, because we havejust had are going to leave all of us for a moment, because we have just had sad news from greater manchester police saying that the baby who was found ina saying that the baby who was found in a river helicopter by police, rescued just short of az30pm this afternoon in the river well, that baby boy has sadly died. emergency service had tended police helicopter, as i was saying, the baby boy was taken, they believe the boy was about 12 months old, taken to hospital, but he died a short time later, despite the best efforts of paramedics and specialists, went two—year—old man has been arrested on suspicion of murder. and remains in custody for questioning. murder investigation launched, detectives are urging any witnesses to get in touch as a matter of urgency. we will bring you more on that later in
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the evening. now international news, because president trump says he is considering five people to replace us national security adviserjohn bolton, who was fired from the position yesterday. speaking to reporters at the white house, the us president said mr bolton "wasn't in line" with his administration's foreign policy, and that his comments about a so—called libyan model for disarmament of north korea were "a mistake". we were set back very badly whenjohn bolton talked about the libyan model, and he made a mistake. and as soon as he mentioned that, the libyan model, what a disaster. take a look at what happened to gaddafi with the libyan model. and he is using that to make a deal with north korea, and i don't blame kimjong—un for what he said after that. and he wanted nothing to do withjohn bolton. and that's not a question of being tough, that's a question of being not smart, to say something like that. so i wished john the best, we actually got along very well,
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i am sure he will do whatever he can do to, you know, spin it his way, john came to see me the night before, in fact i think a lot of you people were out there waiting for me to get on the helicopter, i'm sure you have a shot somewhere along the line. and he sat right in that chair, and i told him, john, you have too many people you are not getting along with, people that a lot of us, including me, disagree with some of your tactics and some of your ideas. and, i wish you well, but i would like you to submit your resignation, and he did that. president trump also spoke about a potential ban on flavoured vaping products, as a sixth person was reported to have died of serious lung disease related to vaping in the us. there have been a50 reported cases of illness related to vaping this year. the president said first lady melania trump has also become concerned over the impact of vaping on young people. it has become a very big business, as i understand it, like a giant
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business in a very short period of time. we cannot allow people to get sick, and we cannot have our youth be so affected, and i'm hearing it, and that's how the first lady got involved. she has got a son, together, that is a beautiful young man, and she feels very, very strongly about it. she's seen it, we are both reading it, a lot of people are reading it. president trump. the bbc has discovered that the number of prosecutions for homophobic hate crime has fallen in the last 5 years in england, wales and northern ireland — even though there's been a big increase in the number of complaints. police chiefs say cases often don't make it to court because of a lack of witnesses and evidence. a warning that this report by our lgbt correspondent ben hunte contains offensive language. lily is 17 and already she's a victim of homophobic hate. how often do these kind of homophobic incidents happened to you ? i would say it's two or three times
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a week, out in public. wow. there was a guy that walked up to me and my friends and said, "what is this, the fat, ugly homosexual squad?" she has reported abuse to south yorkshire police. i feel like the police are not doing as much as they can to prosecute the people. it's a hate crime, it's illegal. lily's mum is deeply concerned about what is happening to her daughter. this is the 21st century and... all through my youth i've been fighting for equality against racism, against hate crimes like this, and you don't expect your children to have to face it in this day and age. this summer, rainbows filled every uk city with many hosting their biggest—ever pride events. on the surface, it seems like society is much more accepting of lgbt people living their lives, but in reality people are contacting the police every single day about the physical and verbal abuse they experience just because of their sexuality. bbc‘s 5 live investigations has
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found crimes recorded by police at more than doubled in five years. attacks have rocketed from 5,800 in england, wales and northern ireland to more than 13,500. five years ago, 20% of these hate crimes resulted in a prosecution. overall, this has fallen to just 8%. and in west yorkshire, crimes have risen five—fold, with nearly 1,000 crimes recorded last year compared to under 200 five years ago. how much is west yorkshire police doing to support the lgbt community? we have a really good network of lgbtq officers who are well engaged. so we actually go out and promote and encourage people to report hate crime and hate incidents. collecting evidence can be difficult if it is just a report of somebody that has been name—calling. we need to learn all the time around how we investigate some of these reports.
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south yorkshire police say they have investigated lily's case, but no suspects were identified. lily says she won't give into hate. ben hunte, bbc news, sheffield. the headlines on bbc news. the government has published documents relating to operation yellowhammer, the contingency planning in case of a no—deal brexit. parliament had demanded the documents' release last week anti—brexit mps demand that parliament be recalled, after scotland's seniorjudges rule the prime minister's decision to suspend it for five weeks is unlawful. labour's deputy leader tom watson calls for the party to prioritise another eu referendum over a general election — contradicting jeremy corbyn. a baby boy rescued from a river in
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greater manchester this afternoon has died. at 22—year—old man has been arrested on suspicion of murder. is there life somewhere out there in the universe? the eternal question — but now could we now be closer to finding the answer? this planet is 650 million, million miles away and scientists believe it's a good candidate to support life because it's just been confirmed that it has water plus the right temperature. our science correspondent, pallab ghosh, explores the possibilities of a planet so far away. the night sky is littered with stars. around them are planets. could some of them be like the earth? scientists think that this one, which is 650 million million miles away, has the potential to support life. astronomers have discovered more than 4000 planets, orbiting distant stars. the new one is about the right distance from its sun to be able to support life.
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its temperature is between 0—40 degrees celsius. it's around twice the size of our own earth and it has an atmosphere that we now know contains water. so, the big question is whether there really are living organisms on this world. light from the planet's sun filters through its atmosphere, before it reaches the earth. that light contains a faint imprint of the chemicals in it. in this case, up to half of it is made up of water. detailed analysis of the starlight, published in the journal nature astronomy, shows this peak, where the light has been absorbed by water vapour. all of a sudden, we have the possibility in the next decade to understand what is the nature of this world, how they formed, how they evolved and, in some cases, whether they can support life. i think it's just mind—blowing. telescopes are becoming increasingly powerful. soon, they'll be able to detect gases in the atmospheres of distant
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planets that could only be produced by living organisms. within the next ten years or so, we will know whether there are biomarkers or chemicals that are due to life in these atmospheres. scientists hope to discover, possibly quite soon, whether life is unique to earth or teaming on worlds across our galaxy. pallab ghosh, bbc news. it's nice to think big thoughts for a moment, is to? at the age of 72 the punk pioneer iggy pop has told the bbc that he has done his last stage dive — because he's "not daft". he's been a major influence on bands including the ramones and nirvana, and even though he's into his 8th decade, he says he has no plans to retire. what a relief. but he does think his latest album is a little more reflective. our entertainment correspondent colin paterson, has been speaking to him.
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iggy pop, welcome to bbc breakfast. through your record, you've done many a yell. any chance you could give them? all right. the new album is free, the single from it bond. with a twist. explain? she wants to be yourjames bond, a third commentator talking about a relationship shift. how big a bond fan are you? when it was sean connery, he was one of the guys that i would go to when i was down in life. to see their film, and back—up. when a guy needs a boost, you don't, you don't need einstein. trainspotting. what was your feeling the first time you saw lust for life being used in the opening sequence? seeing you and
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mcgregor runs it so convincingly through those streets, really matched the song. so i was really happy at the use. 1976 in berlin, you shared a flat with david bowie. who did the washing up? neither party. so... iwilljust who did the washing up? neither party. so... i willjust say, who did the washing up? neither party. so... iwilljust say, not him, not me, ok? david bowie's death must have come at such a shock for you. when someone who has been good for you is gone, there is no point mooning around a person, you begin to be able to take stop to look back start of the gifts that you were given. did you get to say goodbye? no. we spoke in 2002, or 2003 about some ideas he had, and a cordial
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conversation, never connected those orfinished conversation, never connected those or finished those, and so conversation, never connected those orfinished those, and so it conversation, never connected those or finished those, and so it must‘ve been like a dozen years. when i was told i was interviewing you, there was a lot of talk in the office. would you be wearing a shirt? yeah, i'm wearing a shirt. i do wear shirts. how many days a year do you thank you wear a shirt? well... yeah. not a lot. i will carry one in the back—seat of the car, or something, in case i need to go somewhere with no shirt, no shoes, no service. but usually... an emergency shirt. you might guess, and emergency shirts, but i would say about 100 a year. we were going to try to get you to demonstrate how to try to get you to demonstrate how to stage dive. idid 12 to stage dive. i did 12 gigs this year, and i didn't stage dive. hasn't gone? i get touchy—feely. but i haven't been
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diving, no. ishouldn't. have get touchy—feely. but i haven't been diving, no. i shouldn't. have you done your last one? i'm not totally daft. that was colin paterson talking to iggy pop. now it's time for a look at the weather with ben rich. hello good evening. the weather we had today came courtesy of the re m na nts of had today came courtesy of the remnants of what was hurricane dorian. obviously, a much weakened feature now, no longer hurricane, and once the rain cleared through, some places saw some beautiful sunshine. some speckled shower card showing up here on the satellite picture across scotland and northern ireland, and then behind me, here is our next lump of cloud. our next weather maker. and this is also an x tropical weather system, the re m na nts of tropical weather system, the remnants of what was tropical storm gabrielle. now as we go through tonight, many places will be dry with clear spells, the winds are a little later than they have been today, but it stays quite breezy. by the end of the night though, it turns quite drizzly and murky for
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coasts and hills in the southwest. and we start to see some rain into northern ireland and western scotland, as the remnants of tropical storm gabrielle headed our way. we will see some outbreaks of rain during tomorrow, brisk winds once again, but, between these two weather fronts here, a once again, but, between these two weatherfronts here, a wedge once again, but, between these two weather fronts here, a wedge of humid tropical air. so you certainly will feel the effects of that, particularly across england and wales. some sun trying to start off across england and wales, but caught amounts will increase quite quickly from the west, i suspect. rain moving across northern ireland and scotland, the odd heavy burst here and there, but as that rain sinks down into northern england, it will tend to fizzle. the weather from weakening all the while. it is going to be another fairly windy day, those are the wind gusts through the afternoon, to the northwest of cloud, well, it's good to be fairly cool and fresh, but to the south east of it, remember, that wedge of humid air. some parts of the southeast could well get up to 2a degrees. but that humidity will be swept away southwards as we get him into friday. so i fresherfeel to
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the weather. light winds for many, and quitea the weather. light winds for many, and quite a lot of sunshine. those temperatures only up to 20 degrees in cardiff, plymouth, and london. some shirey rain across the western sky don't get excited scotland, courtesy of a little frontal system skipping its way through. and actually as we go into the beacon, we will see further weather fronts approaching northern and western parts of scotland. further south though, high pressure becomes increasingly dominant. so for many of us on saturday, for northern ireland, seven scotland, england and wales, plenty of sunshine to come. more cloud bringing a break sabrina preston northwest of scotland. and those temperatures, well they start to climba those temperatures, well they start to climb a little bit. maybe up to 22 degrees in the southeast, could get even warmer than that. —— as we get even warmer than that. —— as we get on into sunday. but we could see some patchy rain across the northern half of the uk.
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hello, i'm ros atkins, this is outside source. the british government has published its hitherto secret contingency plan for a no—deal brexit. it warns of possible disruption to the supply of medicine and fresh food, and of protests and disorder. the documents relating to operation yellowhammer were published after parliament voted to demand their release. chris mason has been reading them, he'll bring us up to speed. also coming up... the advice given by the government to her majesty the queen to prorogue parliament from 9 september to 1a october was unlawful. judges from the high court in scotland said the prime minister's decision to suspend parliament had been motivated by the "improper purpose of stymying parliament".

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