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hello! about time, i hear you say. they say that as well. thello, this is bbc news with martine croxall. we'll be taking a look at tomorrow morning's papers in a moment. first, the headlines. former tory minister sam gyimah defects to the liberal democrats. he's the sixth mp to do so and was unveiled at the party conference.
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david cameron's memoirs — he accuses borisjohnson of opportunism. the us secretary of state blames iran for attacks on two saudi oil facilities, as concern grows about global oil supplies. tributes are paid to the former president of zimbabwe, robert mugabe, despite a low turnout at his funeral. former wales rugby captain gareth thomas reveals he is hiv—positive, saying he wants to "break the stigma" around the condition. hello, and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. with me are nigel nelson and jo phillips. many of tomorrow's front pages are already in. you have been looking at these front pages since about... well, you have
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been here for three hours. these front pages are very well—thumbed tonight. there's more from david cameron's memoirs on the front page of the sunday times, including further criticism of borisjohnson, who according to mr cameron "didn't believe in brexit" and backed the leave campaign only to "help his political career." the mail on sunday's headline: "we'll break free from the eu like the incredible hulk." in an interview with the paper, mrjohnson says that if brexit negotiations break down, he'll ignore the vote to avoid no—deal, adding "the madder hulk gets, the stronger hulk gets." sam gyimah‘s defection to the liberal democrats dominates the front page of the observer. the former tory minister accuses the prime minister of "veering towards populism and english nationalism." the sunday telegaph claims borisjohnson will use the upcoming queen's speech to unveil a tough new approach to criminaljustice, including whole—life orders for people convicted of murdering pre—school children. the sunday express claims british people have lost faith in mps, citing a poll suggesting almost 8 in 10 believe parliament is in desperate need of reform and 74% believe it is not fit
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for the 21st century. and in an interview with the sunday mirror, the former wales rugby captain gareth thomas reveals he is hiv—positive, a secret he says has tortured him for years. he now hopes he can help "break the stigma" around the condition. let's begin with david cameron's memoirs, due to be published later this week. the sunday times have been running excerpts. "cameron's theory at the liars of leave". some of this we already knew... we did. but seeing it written in this form. it is always interesting to hear it from the horse's mouth. if you are looking for a great revelation, there isn't one here. most of it came out of the times anyway, when he gave an interview to the times this morning. there are some quite
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fun bits. i think the one you have just quoted, borisjohnson never believed in brexit, he thought their side would lose, he did it purely for his political career, the reason being it would make him the darling of the tory party, which he could use as a launching pad to try to become prime minister. michael gove, david cameron says his greatest quality as disloyalty, to david cameron and then to borisjohnson. but again, none of this is actually new. we knew all of this. so david cameron is having a go at people who he feels helped to bring him down, but it doesn't really seem like he has launched a killer blow on this one. he is still defending his rationale for running the referendum as well. yes, a rather half-hearted apology. keeps me awake at night and all of that sort of stuff. you know,
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i'm sure it keeps small businesses and big businesses awake at night, the shambles he left behind. what makes me and i'm sure a lot of other people so crosses that in this, he defined seven big mistakes that cost him victory. —— so cross is that. one mentioned here the failure to launch blue on blue attacks. he talks about these people, these former colleagues and friends, johnson and gove, as liars and disloyal. but he had the opportunity to fight back, and he says here, george osburn told him he should hammerjohnson george osburn told him he should hammer johnson and gove. george osburn told him he should hammerjohnson and gove. —— osborn. these are your opponents, they are telling you, you have to destroy their credibility. and he didn't do it. so he was not prepared to counter their lies and fight for what he apparently believed in at the time. he was trying to protect the time. he was trying to protect the party, wasn't he? he has done a marvellous job of that. the whole thing has turned out to be a com plete thing has turned out to be a complete shambles. the one bit he
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mentions is that when michael gove went on about how they would be an influx of turkish migrants if the uk didn't leave the eu, cameron never made the point that actually, we could have vetoed turkey's membership of the eu. he mentioned those as mistakes. obviously the biggest mistake was calling the referendum in the first place. but he had always said he would if they won the election, and i suppose they we re won the election, and i suppose they were not necessarily expecting to win the election outright. i expected to be in a coalition again. he got it wrong all the way through. first of all, don't float a referendum because they are dangerous. and i suppose the other moral is, don't win elections! the other thing is that they had no plan. so while he is attacking boris johnson for flip—flopping to further his own career, and one of the things that came out in the times today, he admits he was fairly mediocre at school, fairly mediocre at oxford, and this sense of how it
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would be fine, he didn't need to bother. and here you are, with the fate of the country and millions of people in your hands, and it is this sort of laissez—faire attitude which is appalling. a similar attitude in the run—up to the scottish independence referendum. yes, absolutely. it was a sunday times poll which made them suddenly realise they could be about to lose scotland, and that finally galvanised that particular campaign. i thinkjo is right. there is an awful lot of feeling of can't be bothered, a bit lazy. can't be asked. we can't have that kind of language! i am so sorry for anybody who is up undefended! can't be bothered. we know what you mean. it isa bothered. we know what you mean. it is a bit ofa bothered. we know what you mean. it is a bit of a whatever moment, isn't it? the mail on sunday. this is perplexing. exclusive, prime minister's extraordinary rallying cry. we will break free of the eu
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like the incredible hulk. channelling his inner churchill, clearly. i mean, it isjust... if he really said the madder hulk gets, the stronger hulk gets, honestly... to point this out, for those who d ista ntly to point this out, for those who distantly remember the incredible hulk, his alter ego, doctor david banner, at the end of every episode, he had made such a mess of everything he had to go off to a different town for the next episode. what i find peculiar about this is, can you imagine any prime minister in the last hundred years who would have used that kind of analogy? well, how many people would remember the incredible hulk? what we talking about, the 19705? the incredible hulk? what we talking about, the 1970s? well, according to guy, who has small children, they would be... how old are your children, guy? five years old and is nine years old. maybe borisjohnson is appealing to them, i don't know. normally he compares himself to pericles or something like that, to
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come down to the incredible hulk is a bit worrying. it is a bit man of the people, isn't it? prime minister asa the people, isn't it? prime minister as a hulk? i'm not sure that is the impression you want to give stop he is getting into the zone before he has to take on the top european officials. he is going to see jean—claude juncker on monday. the idea he is going as the hulk... it is an absolute gift to satirists, cartoonists... twitter. have i got news for you, mocked a week and all those sorts of things. shall we look at the observer? x tory minister slams populist johnson as at the observer? x tory minister slams populistjohnson as hejoins the lib dems. —— ex—tory. sam gyimah, he was the universities minister until he didn't like theresa may's withdrawal agreement and he stepped down. he ran as a potential tory leader only about 12 weeks ago. and now he is out of the party completely and into a different one. he has lept across to the lib dems. —— leapt. a number of
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the lib dems. —— leapt. a number of the rebels were thinking about this. and because we had some time before we came on our we were looking them up. we looked up his constituency to see if he had a lib dem near opponents, in other words, see if he had a lib dem near opponents, in otherwords, if see if he had a lib dem near opponents, in other words, if it would be quite useful to try to become a lib dem in the constituency. he had a 2a,000 majority. so he cannot stay in sorry after this. —— surrey. along with chuka umunna, ithink after this. —— surrey. along with chuka umunna, i think he is the biggest name thatjo swinson has been able to recruit. i don't agree with that. except when she introduced him, she called him sam gyimah. lots of people do. you have to be introduced to him to know how to be introduced to him to know how to pronounce it. you would think she might have been introduced to him, somewhere along the line. my very dear friend, whose name somewhere along the line. my very dearfriend, whose name i have mispronounced. i think sam gyimah is the biggest name. he is the first of the biggest name. he is the first of the 21 rebels, that is why. he was a
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minister, he did stand for the leadership. it is a catch. you worked for the lib dems, didn't you, with polly ashdown? absolutely. the party is in good battle, they think. it is doing extremely well, and it is quite unusual for the lib dems to go intoa is quite unusual for the lib dems to go into a conference on this sort of high. they are running on about 20% in the polls. they have got 17, now 18 mp5 in the polls. they have got 17, now 18 mps in parliament. and they are appealing across both labour and tory groups. and i think i have said it before. jo swinson, i think, is one of those people who is going to bea one of those people who is going to be a lucky politician. she is in the right place at the right time and if she plays it right, she can do great things with the liberal democrats. sunday express. britain has lost faith in mps. voters say parliament is unfit for the 21st century and shames the country on the international stage. i do wonder how many people really understand how parliament functions, to ask this question, because it has been quite
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baffling lately. it has. equally, one thing that people can see is that it doesn't function. i find these to be quite extraordinary figures. the idea that three quarters of the country really do, really have lost faith in parliament, but is an incredibly worrying figure. and it is startlingly high. what is also interesting, when you drill down into some of the details here, is that people aren't a very keen on the way borisjohnson is going. that people aren't a very keen on the way boris johnson is going. but was before he said he was the incredible hulk. no deals on 3496, those who oppose no deal also 34%, as an example. it is not unalloyed good news for borisjohnson. but i do think we will end up at some point with a written constitution at the end of this process. it is hardly surprising people have lost faith in parliament and in politicians, three years on, with all the nonsense that has been going on in parliament. and even
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parliamentarians and people like nigel don't actually, you know, you are having to catch up with stuff, it feels they are making it up as they go on. the figures are close. 28 stories, 27 for labour, 27 for the liberal democrats and brexit on 30. the sunday telegraph. life will mean life or child killers, tougher sentences for the worst offenders, expected in the queen ‘s speech. this, again, i am afraid to say is another populist move by boris johnson. number of people get full life terms is incredibly small. —— the number. and it is within the gift, if you like, of the courts to impose that already. this is only talking about killers of children who are under school age. so, infants, really. but downing street has put this announcement out. apparently boris johnson is has put this announcement out. apparently borisjohnson is going to use the queen's speech to announce a
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new sentencing bill. and the other thing is that they want to get rid of labour's policy of prisoners becoming eligible for release halfway through their sentence. it just seems it goes against any sort of rehabilitation. i always feel uncomfortable with things like this. i think the whole essence of prison release is a complex business. the pa role release is a complex business. the parole board doesn't always get it right, but i still think that system is much better. if they are a danger, they have to stay in. but if there is a chance of rehabilitation, they should come out. let's finish with the sunday mirror. world exclusive. rugby star gareth thomas, former wales captain, announcing that he is living with hiv. a very moving clip that we have been running. he is desperately, desperately upset. the relief, though, for him to be able to say this allowed. i think it is a very brave thing for him to do. but the reason he has actually decided to do it is that he wants to set some kind
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of example to other people. i mean, some of the figures at the moment, we have a target in this country to end new transmissions of hiv by 2030. one of the problems is, people keep it a secret. and what gareth wa nts to keep it a secret. and what gareth wants to do is try to and that stigma. but must be a good thing, because that would actually help to reach that target if it is possible. —— that when he came out a few years ago, it was a very brave thing to do. i know that he has had a lot of support across the sporting world. but we still see homophobia rampant around foot ball still see homophobia rampant around football and rugby stadiums and everywhere else. i think this is a very brave thing to do, and this it encourages people to get tested, be sensible, use protection, use condoms and things, then it can
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