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this is bbc news. the headlines at eight. a bbc news investigation finds teenagers in care are being placed at risk of abuse in unregulated homes. three teenagers have been charged with the murder of a police officer who was killed while investigating a burglary. saudi arabia says debris from drones and missiles proves the attacks on two oil sites were ‘unquestionably sponsored by iran', president trump says he will "substa ntially increase" sanctions on iran
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gareth thomas reveals that a journalist told his parents about his hiv status before they disgusted. i will never, ever his hiv status before they disgusted. iwill never, ever have the moment to be able to sit down with my parents and tell them and explained to them that i am living with hiv. never have that conversation. good evening. we begin this hour with an exclusive report into the threat of abuse, exploitation and despair facing some of our most vulnerable teenagers. many of these children are either in care or have recently left care, but are still supposed to be supervised in what is known as semi—independent living.
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the bbc has discovered a catalogue of alleged safeguarding failures which have left teenagers in essex and london open to trafficking and sexual abuse. this report from our special correspondent ed thomas and producer noel titheridge has content that some of you may find upsetting. inside, the unregulated homes feeling to protect our most vulnerable children. it was, living here was a punishment. hearing stories of abuse, exploitation and despair. how many times did you attempt to take your life? about five times. how do you sum up your experience and site enduring care? appalling. a year ago, vulnerable children were being badly filled by
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authorities across england and wales. increasingly, teenagers aged i6 and over and often in care are being placed in homes where checks are only made by councils and not a regulator. this is where she lived. we obtained this confidential briefing around councils with serious safeguard feeling. in homes run bya serious safeguard feeling. in homes run by a company called centurion care. we set out to find the young people affected. it was horrendous, drug taking, motor bikes being stolen. they are conducting surveillance around his home for young people caught with criminal gangs. i saw them dealing drugs on the back wall. while vulnerable people lived inside. spending years in foster homes before being sent to
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centurion care. it was a situation that got really bad and i lost a lot of blood and they said i need to be taken to the hospital. and we were like, noi taken to the hospital. and we were like, no i can't leave the boys and attended. it was like, no, just go to the shop. just a house for people profit off of young vulnerable children. centurion care told us that all of their homes had first aid kits. on one occasion, she was taken to hospital and they cooperated with police, installing cctv to prevent drug dealing. they then moved to another centurion care home where they looked after a boy with learning disabilities and we obtained this. a recording outside the home showing the child in the yellow shirt and distress lashing
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out. police were called here on in order of the soul. they cannot be sure what led up to this. but watch how the worker responds. also a resident at the time. that probably will scare the life out of me, these to swear, screaming his face, tell them that he was going to take his balloons away and they would take them, pop them, threaten him with police, he was absolutely petrified. police are given cctv, no one was charged with an offence and they we re charged with an offence and they were not aware of any allegation of bullying this boy. we spent weeks trying to track down someone who knew the children involved. they we re knew the children involved. they were all very high risk. and he was a support worker for many of the homes. sexually exploited kids,
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drugs and alcohol abuse, some had disabilities. he seems most shocked by what happened here. and he remembers a girl who regularly went missing. we saw a bunch of boys in the park and there, she just trumped in at this spot literally right here and that was it. that was the last timel and that was it. that was the last time i saw her. trafficked. gone. she was missing for more than a week before being found in the midlands. police ended up finding her. there is no evidence that centurion care staff were involved in her trafficking. it took months to find out who she was and where she now lived. a lot of kids go through things where the care system just gives up. you are alone and stop bibles the impact on you being taken like that? it was the worst. no one, no one
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deserves that. like many children in care, she was placed in a home outside of the local authority. care, she was placed in a home outside of the local authoritylj didn't outside of the local authority.” didn't have any friends or anything, just trying to run away from the home. just trying to get away from the environment, the staff, them. she says she was also sexually abused by a young person in the home. did they phone the police? no. did the staff members remove the boys who have been hurting you? know. they told me that that's what i wanted. centurion care told us all staff had safeguarding training, missing person procedures are followed and they had no record of a sexual assault allegation. what were you hoping it would be?l sexual assault allegation. what were you hoping it would be? a fresh start. the homes are closed in 2017
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and the company was closed. facing children in the homes, we have learned there is just one of iii children in the homes, we have learned there is just one of 14 such investigations facing vulnerable teenagers in england and wales in unregulated homes. those were involved in those who did what they did, someone needs to pay a price for this. three teenagers have been charged with the murder of pc andrew harper. pc harper was killed while investigating a burglary in berkshire last month. jon donnison has more you may remember that a 20—year—old man appeared at reading court charged with the murder of pc harper but at the time, tens valley police that their investigation was ongoing and today they have announced the three more people have been charged with murder, 18—year—old henry long into 17—year—old boys who cannot be
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named because of their age. they have all been charged with conspiracy and a fourth person charged just with conspiracy to steal this bike. they are all due to appear tomorrow. and a lot of people remember this because he just got married a few weeks before it happened. 20 28 years old, mother first to be killed since 2017, he is about to go on his honeymoon, there are pictures in the paper of him getting married the day of his wedding and the case got a lot of attention. jeremy corbyn has refused to say which side he might back in a future brexit referendum under a labour government. he said if he was prime minister he would offer voters a choice between remain and a deal negotiated by labour, and deliver the outcome. his remarks come ahead of labour's
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conference where he is expected to face increasing pressure to back remain. speaking earlier, jeremy corbyn says he wants to make sure people have a credible choice between leave and remain. i want the people to have a choice between the offer of remaining in the eu, and the offer of an agreement with the eu, which will give us a trade relationship, which will give us a customs union, will give us rights, consumer rights, workers' rights and environmental standards. that is a credible choice, and myjob as prime minister, would be to deliver that option that is chosen by the british people. and which option do you prefer? i think the important thing is to put the offer before the people, and they will make the choice and i will deliver it. i will credibly present the options and say "this is the option, you can remain, possibly with some reforms to the european union or you can leave, but you'll be leaving on these terms".
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well earlier i spoke to the labour mp stephen doughty. i started by asking him what he made ofjeremy corbyn‘s position and whether he was happy with it. well, labour has been very clear about where we stand on this. you have to have a credible leave deal on any ballot paper and a second referendum in putting this issue back to the people, but also to have the option to remain. jeremy corbyn has not said he would stay neutral and that it said today that he would never stay neutral when jobs are on the line and certainly the welsh labour leader is very much echoing that in the sense that in his view, oui’ that in the sense that in his view, our position would be to remain in such a vote. we had to have deal on the ballot paper for people being able to choose that if they want to. they have not said the labour is the party of remain, has he? jeremy corbyn is trying to find a position that can bring the country together.
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i think whatever views are on brexit, and a fervent believer of staying in the european union, need to a cce pt staying in the european union, need to accept that there are many people who feel differently including some of my colleagues and there needs to bea of my colleagues and there needs to be a choice on this between a credible deal to leave, not the disaster of a no—deal brexit, which is what borisjohnson wants to take us is what borisjohnson wants to take us into it of course keeping the deal that we've got. i believe that we should keep the deal that we've got and that's the best way to securejob got and that's the best way to secure job security and the opportunities for a future generation. but if people want to leave with a deal, knowing the consequences of that, they should be allowed to take the choice i think it is only right that people of the final say on the. your position is very clear, would be clearer for labour to decide what he wants to do and argue for that rather than this complicated route through various options? i think it is all about finding compromise and the labour conference is going to be discussing this issue and will be agreeing for
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the policy as a whole and there are those who determine a policy 90 constituents from all parts of the uk have put a0 position on that which means we should campaign is labourfor remain which means we should campaign is labour for remain and reform. which means we should campaign is labourfor remain and reform. not just some uncritical sting of the european union, there are a lot of things i need to change but the crucial thing that absolutely agreed on is that this issue must go back to the people and that is the stark contrast between the position of labour and the conservatives want to drag us into a new deal brexit from which there is no mandate, no majority and currently, no plan. define struggling to understand the people having their final say on and what people are thinking. this is very clear, will be having a final say on a leave deal, not disastrous no deal, but a deal to leave in the present cons the rights and the wrongs that argument or keeping the deal that we've got. i'll be campaigning to keep the deal that we've got, it is far better than
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what we have, and keep the protections and security so we have at the moment and that is become very clear of us for the past two yea rs very clear of us for the past two years what is at risk. but if you wa nt to years what is at risk. but if you want to choose to leave on clearer terms with the deal, not the jumping offa terms with the deal, not the jumping off a cliff with no deal, then they should have the right to do that. let's speak now to sienna rodgers, the editor of labour list — an independent news website supportive of the labour party. a very good evening to you. why do you thinkjeremy corbyn has adopted this position? i think it is not an ideal position, it is totally clear to everybody that it is the only position he can take at the moment. he is caught between lots of competing interests, labour conference was just starting in brighton on saturday and he's got on one hand, the trade unions of the labour party and they have worked really ha rd to labour party and they have worked really hard to get this unity
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position where they have agreed that the labour government would put forward a public vote and have this credible leave option versus remain on the ballot and they also want this leadership to decide its position once it's got that negotiation deal in place. so during an election come they can either vote for manor leave. on the other hand, the party membership that is the other half of the delicates that abe the other half of the delicates that a be voting at the conference and a stephen was saying, and they have 90 motions for brexit, 81 of them saying that they should campaign to remain at the next election so it should state its position now, so is ina should state its position now, so is in a really difficult place of the moment because he needs to respect the wishes of the membership, that is how, that is what he is elected for to do, to respect internal democracy in the labour party, by the same time you cannot ignore the trade unions. one way of putting it
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isa trade unions. one way of putting it is a bit ofa trade unions. one way of putting it is a bit of a dogs dinner because at the end of the day, are you going to get at least most of the front bench going out and campaigning for remain an edge of the leader who is not saying what he supports. it is important to note thatjeremy corbyn has not said he was stay neutral so far, he isjust neglected has not said he was stay neutral so far, he is just neglected to say whether he will take the position, whether he will take the position, whether he will stay neutral, but his position would be. so he has kind of left that open so that he has some room to manoeuvre later if things change. but yes, of course the 1975 options of people referred to and in 1975, there was a referendum and they did express a preference that he let everyone campaign as they wished there are going to be some shadow cabinet members who represent heavily leave seats, people likejohn who might t seats, people likejohn who might opt to campaign for a credible leave option comments the labour government negotiates that option and it is not damaging tojobs, then
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it could actually see some very high—profile labour figures campaigning for it, including some of the unions as well. will people actually listen to this on the doorsteps in the sense of the conservatives present one clear view, the liberal democrats, another clear view and perhaps a risk that labour get trapped in the middle in no man's land ? labour get trapped in the middle in no man's land? there is a risk but there's also an opportunity here because the tories if they come in november or december, they might actually be caught between advocating a hard brexit and advocating a hard brexit and advocating a hard brexit and advocating a new deal brexit where is the lib dems as well, they confuse the message on brexit at their conference last week, they said they would back revoking article 50 but they been campaigning for a public vote for a second referendum, as that is quite confusing as well so they're in
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quite a confusing situation on brexit in every single political party is divided so if labour can keep repeating the message that we will let you, the people decide on brexit and yet the opportunity to vote in this general election, on the basis of things that affect your day today life, the council decision—making, social care, housing, young people who are paying enormous amounts of rent and that ultimately will fix anything their home, those kind of issues. perhaps voters would like to focus on those issues. really good to hear your thoughts and insight, thank you so much. the father of a patient has been filmed confonting borisjohnson during a visit to a hospital earlier today. the prime minister was visiting whipps cross university hospital in east london when he was challenged by omar salem — a labour activist who claimed there were not enough doctors
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and nurses in place there. the nhs has been destroyed. it has been destroyed. it has been destroyed and now you come here for a press opportunity. limit their there is no press here. were these people? elevenjudges deciding whether borisjohnson acted legally when he suspended parliament have concluded their second day the supreme court. they are hearing appeals on two contradictory rulings —— one from the english courts, which ruled that suspending parliament was not a matter for the courts, and one from scotland, which found the prime minister's actions to be illegal. today the court heard from the counsel for the group of mps opposing borisjohnson, he said "the mother of parliaments has been closed down by the father of lies", arguing that the suspension was an "unlawful abuse of power".
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join us at half past eight for a full summary of the day's proceedings, where we will be talking to drjoelle grogan, a senior lecturer in law at middlesex university london, and robert craig, who teaches constitutional law at the university of bristol, for their take on today's events. the european commission president, jean—claude juncker, has given a downbeat appraisal of the prospects of a brexit agreement. updating the european parliament in strasbourg on his talks with the prime minister earlier this week, mrjuncker said a no deal departure was now "palpable and real"; the uk government, he said, had come up with no firm proposals to replace the irish backstop, the contingency plan to avoid a return to physical border checks. the prime minister of luxembourg has denied trying to humiliate boris johnson after he held a press conference without him on monday.
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gzay—vi—uher bettel delivered his part of the address to journalists next to an empty podium with a union flag behind it. but speaking to the bbc today, the luxembourg prime minister dismissed allegations that it was a deliberate snub and blamed logistical issues. our europe editor katya adler reports iand said iam set i am set about the perceptions. i have too much respect for the uk in the uk citizens and for boris johnson to think that i prepared this is a trickjust to have five minutes of popularity. really? there has been quite some outrage in the uk after prime minister, following a meeting here in luxembourg with borisjohnson to hold a press conference. he holds the future... widely criticising the brexit
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process in front of anti—brexit protesters after the prime minister left the building. you vehemently denied that this was a planned humiliation. you are a very experienced politician, you must of realised how it would look to have an empty podium where the uk prime minister should have stood, but borisjohnson minister should have stood, but boris johnson wasn't there to minister should have stood, but borisjohnson wasn't there to answer the very emotional criticisms that you have about the brexit process. you must of realised how that would've gone down. do you regret it now looking back on it? no, because the fact it was agreed to have this press co nfe re nce . the fact it was agreed to have this press conference. to show why he was unable to meet borisjohnson's request to hold that press conference indoors to avoid the noise outside of the anti—brexit demonstrators that he took me on a personal tour of his prime ministerial offices. we had no room for 120 journalists and that five or
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ten or 15, it was a problem. yesterday you had the united states ambassador to the uk and the arguments saying that your treatment of borisjohnson was evidence of why the uk is right to leave the eu.” ama the uk is right to leave the eu.” am a friend of the united kingdom, the fact that some people have been hurt makes me sad. let's look at the deal, you did sit here with boris johnson, the president of the european commission, the president described the meeting as friendly, and in parts, positive. was that you are feeling as well despite, it felt like anger outside. inside, what was the constructive conversation? like anger outside. inside, what was the constructive conversation7m was a perfect, friendly and constructive discussion and there we re constructive discussion and there were good proposals, time is ticking. he told me that would could be plans or ideas, but i cannot
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decide on ideas. it is going to be, i need legally binding text. are you actually going to be able to find a deal by mid—october? actually going to be able to find a deal by mid-october? without concrete proposals, i cannot tell you. i would concrete proposals, i cannot tell you. iwould hope concrete proposals, i cannot tell you. i would hope that we will have this deal and his future relationship in the few weeks and we are able to say that they did it. sport and for a full round up, from the bbc sport centre. champions league action. let's start with tottenham because they have started their campaign but there we re started their campaign but there were 2—0 up but then they scored, on half—time and patrick reports. the music, the noise, the colours, it must all take tottenham back, on the
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way to last season, there were so many theatrics. now back to the point. starting in the slumber until awoken by crucial whistle, penalty. one by harry, 1—0 by harry kane. while injured, it was sustained by others like lucas, spurs had snatched and grab you did not make a getaway, he had been the better team for long periods in quick quality moments. the goal came just before half—time and put fire beneath the cauldron. in the second half, totte n ha m cauldron. in the second half, tottenham got burned, the penalty, placed the greek champions level. still, despite it, they might‘ve wanted, might‘ve passed it but that opening like this evening was a chance list. opening like this evening was a chance missed. six games under way and now for real
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madrid and they are taking on the host of 1—0 madrid and they are taking on the host of1—0 up madrid and they are taking on the host of 1—0 up with the opener there. manchester city have gotten i-o there. manchester city have gotten 1—0 up in the goal they they're playing for the third straight season and you can follow it all on the bbc sport website. set news, died at the age of a3, the dutchman who was suffering from disease, he had made under 250 appearances for rangers and their six—year spell and what does make league titles. he is shocked that their coach has been sent home from the world cup for in the ledge bedding breach —— an alleged bedding breach. and he was
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to leave but his plan had flown out to leave but his plan had flown out tojoin the to leave but his plan had flown out to join the team early as they prepared to take on georgia in their tournament opener on monday and this is his reaction. i am shocked with that, the union are dealing with us and my focus now is to be on the next five days in terms of preparing the squad to deal with adversity at times we have all these key players in this is happened that i must say that the players in the past 2a hours of really stepped up and have been incredibly responsible and resilient and sometimes that brings teams closer together and they would draw a line in the sand. named robert carson is the first of his vice captains for the 2020 competition, he had the same role in paris last year as europe regained
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the trophy, he made to ryder cup appearances as a player and was a winner at the cloud back in 2006 and he also tasted defeat two years later. somerset will have to be the new champions in the final match if they're going to claim the first ever title, that is after they beat surrey and slumped to a heavy defeat at the ball, hampshire south african fast bowler, took 17 wickets in the match and they are the best figures ina match and they are the best figures in a first—class game since they took 19. wickets a test against them ini956, took 19. wickets a test against them in 1956, the defeat mean somerset trails essex by 12 points heading into the title decider. that is all the support for now, you can keep updated on the champions league on the sports website and we will have more for you on sports day. the us secretary of state mike pompeo has arrived in saudi arabia where he'll meeet the crown prince, to discuss a response to saturday's attack on oil facilities.
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mr pompeo said "this was an iranian attack" and ‘it didn't come from the houthis in yemen. his comments echo those of the saudi defence ministry, while iran repeatedly denies any involvement. richard galpin reports. the attack on what is the biggest crude oil processing facility has been described as unprecedented. the drones and other weapons fired at this facility as well as an oil field initially knocked out half of saudi oil production. this uav, the defence minister displayed the remains of some of the weapons used and went public with its conclusions about who was behind the attack. this attack did not originate from
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yemen. despite the effort to make it appear so. their collaboration with their proxy in the region to create this false narrative is clear. secondly, the attack was launched from the north and was unquestionably sponsored by iran. has reference to the attack coming from the north implies that it could have been launched eitherfrom iran itself or potentially by iranian backed forces in iraq. but so far, saudi arabia has not been able to determine the exact launch location. right now we are working to know exactly the launch point, however, the uav or the cruise missile, for attacking the saudi structure and the saudi civilians. the us
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secretary of state has now arrived in saudi arabia for talks about the crisis. he is bluntly claiming it was in iranian attack and it was an act of war. my mission here is to work with our partners in the region and will be working with our european partners as well, working to build that coalition to develop a plan to deter them and this is what needs to happen, this is an attack ofa needs to happen, this is an attack of a skill that we have not seen before. and the iranian capital today, the authorities again deny responsibility for the attack, the president saying it was launched by rebels in yemen. they have not had a hospital, school or a bizarre, they do hit an industrial centre to warn you, learn lessons from this warning and consider there could be a war in the region. they seem convinced that
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iran was involved in the remains recovered from the site they say, are off advanced weapons, beyond the capacity of the rebels. now it's time for a look at the weather with susan powell. hello. really quiet weather story across the uk, for the coming days, one significant change for the start of the weekend and it will turn considerably warmer. a lot of u nsettled considerably warmer. a lot of unsettled weather as he had towards their state, friday and into saturday thanks to high—pressure and that high will mean clear skies across the central and southern sway of the uk and if you frost will head down to just two or three degrees, the legacy of cloud across northern scotla nd the legacy of cloud across northern scotland following the warm front that brought some wet weather into wednesday, that rain will pull away toward scandinavia through thursday, sunny spells developing across scotla nd sunny spells developing across scotland and much warmer up to 18 in
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aberdeen, the sunshine further south and we are looking at highs of 21 or 22 across southern england and south wells. warmer still on friday, present to 23 in the northeast of scotla nd present to 23 in the northeast of scotland and that are heat peaks on saturday of up to 26 to the south. hello this is bbc news. the headlines... a bbc news investigation finds teenagers in care are being placed at risk of abuse in unregulated homes. three teenagers have been charged with the murder of a police officer who was killed while investigating a burglary. saudi arabia has displayed what it says is wreckage of drones and cruise missiles, which it says prove that iran was behind the recent attacks on two oilfacilities. president trump said he would "substa ntially increase" sanctions on iran the pensioners who planned to end their lives together —
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mavis ecclestone survived and is cleared of murdering her terminally ill husband. former rugby player gareth thomas reveals that a journalist told his parents about his hiv status before they had discussed it. i will never, ever, ever happy moment to sit down with my parents and tell them and explain to them that i am living with hiv. never be able to have that conversation in that moment with them again. 11 judges deciding whether boris johnson acted legally when he suspended parliament have concluded their second day at the supreme court. they are hearing appeals on two contradictory rulings, after the high court in london said the five—week proroguement was a matter of politics, and the highest court in scotland said the prime minister was acting unlawfully. earlier today, the government's lawyer sirjames eadie argued
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that the decision to prorogue parliament was not something a court of law could rule on. he said that prorogation powers had been ‘expressly preserved by parliament. this afternoon it was the turn of aidan o'neill, counsel for the group led by the snp mp joanna cherry, who brought the scottish case to court. he said in reference to the prime minister that the ‘mother of parliaments had been shut down by the father of lies‘. and tomorrow, there will be interventions from the former prime minister sirjohn major, whose lawyers will makes his submission to the court. our home editor mark easton reports. at the supreme court, the power struggle between the united kingdom‘s government and its parliament has, for some, become an instagram moment, a photo opportunity. i was there. good morning. 11 justices are being asked to make the final legal call
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on whether borisjohnson‘s decision to suspend parliament for five weeks was an unlawful ruse to get brexit done by halloween. the suggestion, ultimately, that the prime minister was concerned to stymie parliament — whatever on earth that means — is, we respectfully submit, untenable. the case hinges on what might be called westm i nster‘s triangle of power — the relationship between 10 downing st, the houses of parliament and the supreme court. sirjames eadie, the government‘s go—to barrister, argued suspending, or proroguing, parliament was a matter for downing street and the courts shouldn‘t interfere. somejudges raised a legal eyebrow. if there is anybody who is better placed to defend parliamentary sovereignty, the legal principle of parliamentary sovereignty, it is us here. it's no good simply turning up and shouting about parliamentary sovereignty because parliamentary sovereignty means a number of different things. isn‘t it odd that nobody has signed
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a witness statement to say, this is true, these are the true reasons for what was done? my lord, i, i, i... you have the witness statement you have. so, what is borisjohnson‘s working assumption as to what is going to happen here? well, a senior government source says downing street thinks the judges will want to rule on the legality of the prime minister suspending parliament and may want to fire a few warning shots about a government closing parliament illegitimately. but even if they are right, how that affects government business, or even brexit, for that matter, well, that is far from clear. once parliament has been prorogued, the only constitutional actor still standing is the courts. this lawyer, representing scottish politicians who want to stop a no—deal brexit, took thejudges back to the triangle of power, arguing the courts must decide on the legality of downing street‘s actions.
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we've got here the mother of parliaments being shut down by the father of lies. rather than allowing lies to triumph, listen to the angels of your better nature. accusations of lying and dirty tricks inside, aggressive barracking by brexit supporters outside, as gina miller, the remain campaigner who is challenging the government, left the court. to the gallows! respect the referendum, miller! anger is in evidence. mark easton, bbc news, the supreme court. to the gallows! our legal correspondent clive coleman sent this update. much of the argument has been had, for the government addressing the court from these benches have focused on the point that prorogating or suspending proudman isa prorogating or suspending proudman is a purely political matter and not won a court can or should adjudicate
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because there are no standards against which it can be judged because there are no standards against which it can bejudged but on the other hand lawyers for the businesswoman gina miller and a group of some of the parliamentarians argued that the pa role parliamentarians argued that the parole gain or suspension was unlawful because the purpose was to silence and shut down proudman, stein yet and frustrated and some of the political weeks leading up to the political weeks leading up to the uk reaping the eu. thejustices have sat and listened to this case will have to decide freshly whether it is an issue they can rule on, if they decide that it is, they will have to come to a definitive judgement as to whether a suspension of parliament was unlawful and that the behaviour of the prime minister and advising the queen was also illegal. are legal affairs correspondent. let‘s discuss today‘s events in more detail now. i‘m joined by drjoelle grogan, a senior lecturer in law at middlesex university london, and robert craig, who teaches constitutional law at
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the university of bristol. welcome to you both. perhaps it was just me but i thought it was an engrossing day today, starting with you, what was your take on the day‘s advanced? i was on the edge of my seat today. we saw some of the strongest arguments this morning from sirjames and really powerful state m e nts from sirjames and really powerful statements that go to the core of governments argument which is this is political, even if it is political advantage, it is essentially a political question and then we saw a very different avenue. . . then we saw a very different avenue... aiden o‘neill. i am so used to saying other names. but we sought from then that went to of principles that government is subordinate to law and accountable to parliament and very strong state m e nts to parliament and very strong statements on principal and very
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different from the morning. what are your thoughts on the day? a day of two halves, it was incredibly detailed legally and there was a strong sense that he had taken on the feedback and pushed him to provide more case law and there have been quite a lot of academic discussion and it seems that sir james took that and ran with it and gave a lot of exactitude case law and went through it and a very clear way. the other half, aiden o'neill had a finding of a dilemma because he cannot go over all of the arguments and rehash everything. he had a licence in some way to going different directions the first 20 minutes, in many ways, it brought
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some colour into debate and that is not unreasonable and then focus very heavily on the evidence and went through line by line some of the memos and some of the things being released and emphasised again and again the lack of an affidavit and contrast with some previous examples especially in scotland, and know that as a southern lawyer, if there had been still affidavits and i did not know that they are much less common in england. we saw and you have touched on this, two very different styles of advocacy today, two very different types of lawyers, what did you make of that? is the first time i saw in the court, the reference to braveheart and... how did that come about? he had a long written case and he apologised, for the length of this thing, i did not
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have much time and there was immediate laughter but they ran with it and of course there is that famous phrase, i did not have time to write a short one. there was no time limit, there is no time limit for any of this and there was aiden o‘neill he said there was only two days and you will have seen thousands of pages and they have no time and in fact in this decision the supreme court judges time and in fact in this decision the supreme courtjudges making their 11 judgements will have such little time and on the back of all of this, on the back of this possibility is the deadline, the 31st of october. how will we hear what they have decided? it may be that they do what i think the high court dead and certainly the scottish court date which is to get a preliminary reason orjust the outcome and then the reasons,
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long—term version will come later because the issue would have gone on because the issue would have gone on because this is time sensitive, a day they are not since doug setting isa day they are not since doug setting is a day lost. that was a compressed five years litigation and one barrister said this in to five months. best in the process you have ever seen months. best in the process you have ever seen something go through the bottom of the courts to the supreme court and it has taken everyone's breath away at the speed. this is exponentially faster. it is causing problems because there were problems with documentation on day one and page references are not quite right and some of the situations there is confusion now and again but it is manageable. they are small things that you never see that in the supreme court. people take so much time to get it absolutely right and ido time to get it absolutely right and i do not say this very often but have never seen from supreme court decision, anything ever go wrong with that document ever. fascinating. the whole thing is unprecedented let‘s be honest. what
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happens if the court comes back in the jazz is state it was illegal. was parliament immediately brought back to sit? that is the question and of itself, the big constitutional question this is something that they pushed on today. the idea of relief or if it is unlawful, what then? we had an agreement from the government lawyers that they would go away and think about it and prefer a written statement to say what then, what we could imagine is an agreement from government saying i will respect the judgement of parliament but it will not necessarily be an orator, or a clashing order that aiden o‘neill then pushed hard for her at the end of the day, it would be a respect. it would say if you say that this advice is unlawful, i will call back proudman and use my power as prime minister to call back but the last
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thing we heard today, if it was a day a very incendiary comments, one of the most incendiary moments but certainly when aiden o‘neill said and must be quashed. msp cost from the beginning and the speaker coming back tomorrow and calling parliament back tomorrow and calling parliament back without the prime minister saying so. day two of three and no doubt we will be back talking about this tomorrow but we must leave it there and i am afraid. both of you so much. the headlines on bbc news... a bbc news investigation finds teenagers in care are being placed at risk of abuse in unregulated homes. three teenagers have been charged with the murder of a police officer who was killed while investigating a burglary. saudi arabia has displayed what it says is wreckage of drones and cruise missiles, which prove that iran was behind the recent attacks on two oilfacilities.
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a pensioner has been cleared of murdering her terminally ill 81—year—old husband who died after they both took an overdose at their home in staffordshire. mavis eccleston, who‘s 80, sobbed in the dock as the verdict was read out. sian lloyd reports. a devoted couple, married for 60 years. but mavis eccleston was accused of murdering the man she described as the love of her life in a so—called mercy killing. it took a jury four hours to clear her of all charges, verdicts welcomed by her family who described the past 18 months as a terrible ordeal. if there had been an assisted dying law in the uk, our dad would have been able to have the choice to end his suffering. he would not have asked our mum to do something that is considered breaking the law. our dad would have been devastated at the thought of his beloved wife
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waiting to find out if, at the age of 80, she would face a life sentence in prison simply for respecting his wishes. at their home, the prosecution alleged that mavis eccleston had given her husband a potentially lethal dose of prescription medicine in a night—time drink, without him knowing. she told the court that they had acted together, that dennis wanted to end his life and she couldn‘t live without him. she had also taken an overdose and the couple were found unconscious during an unexpected visit from relatives. following hospital treatment, she survived. a sense of relief for this family, but wider questions will again they are looking forward to getting her home. be asked about the law sian lloyd, bbc news, stafford crown court. britain‘s leading sexual health charity says there was an increase in people looking for information about hiv after gareth thomas announced he was living
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with the virus at the weekend. the former wales captain says he wants to help educate people about the condition. he‘s also spoken of how newspapers found out about his diagnosis and asked his parents about it — before the family had discussed things properly. daniel davies has been speaking to him. he is used to being in the public eye but more recently, gareth thomas has been battling to keep his medical status private. he decided to get it out in the open after tabloid journalists started asking questions before his family had discussed it properly. when it started affecting my parents life, they would stop my father and the carand they would stop my father and the car and stick his head in the window and decided to question me on my hiv when my father sat next to me in the car, taking me to a train station. and i remember thinking to myself,
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even to this day, i will never ever have the moment to be able to sit down with my parents and tell them and explain to them that i am living with hiv. never be able to have that conversation in that moment with them again because someone or something decided to take that away. he timed his announcement to coincide with the ironman wales triathlon on sunday.” coincide with the ironman wales triathlon on sunday. i remember thinking, this is very supportive andi thinking, this is very supportive and i turned the corner and i swear, even now when i think about it, my hair is standing on and. i did not realise how is going to continue because the wave of support, the noise and cheer initiated in the corner and it took my breath away and had to stop and cry but also try to catch my breath because i could not breathe and from that moment on
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then i realised i had to finish this race. he missed the late doug little he knew about hiv came from the public health campaigns in the 80s. medicine has moved on and they can live long and healthy lives but attitudes have not changed so quickly he says. went needs to happen to deal with the stigma around hiv? knowledge, education, and knowledge. ithink around hiv? knowledge, education, and knowledge. i think the stigma is created from the knowledge that we had a0 yea rs created from the knowledge that we had a0 years ago. when hiv was a virus that was not really controllable, people did not know anything about it. it would progress into aides and that would mean a death sentence. while he was doing the ironman on sunday, the trust said visits to the website and
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orders for self—test hiv kits increased and they got a phone call from prince harry and he says he hopes they work together to reach more people. they can listen to somebody who is living proof of living his life with hiv. gareth thomas blair. angela phillips, professor of journalism at goldsmiths university, london, gave evidence at the leveson inquiry into media ethics, and joins us now. good evening to you. we have had two stories in today‘s come the case of gareth thomas and ben stokes yesterday. i just wondered gareth thomas and ben stokes yesterday. ijust wondered what gareth thomas and ben stokes yesterday. i just wondered what you made at them both?” yesterday. i just wondered what you made at them both? i think they are slightly different cases and i think the question of the story is
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absolutely outrageous breach of simple human ethics. because this story did not directly affect ben stokes himself but it was about his pa rents stokes himself but it was about his parents who had no possible way of being able to control the story. it was not a story that would ever have come out if not for the fact that ben stokes is at the height of his fame and any story about ben stokes on the front page of some newspaper will get lots of clicks. so this decision to kind of turn upside down the lives of two people was made on purely commercial grounds. i think it really was a bad decision and i think the assignment will almost certainly have done well commercially out of it because they will have been clicking on links to find out what the story is about but
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the wave of anger on social media about the way the story has been used could turn out to be damaging for them in the future and i hope it well. let's be clear, neither of the sun or the sunday mirror who broke that gareth thomas story have either of those papers broken the law? that gareth thomas story have either of those papers broken the law7m seemed to me and i think the gareth thomas story is quite... i have been trying to find out exactly what happened because it seems to me that clearly gareth thomas has a programme coming out tonight i believe where he does in fact talk about his hiv status. by he may well in some ways have wanted some form of prior publicity for that. but the reality is that if the stories he tells are being approached by tabloid journalists out of the blue
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with parents there about a piece of information that was absolutely private to hand and there is no question about that, those journalists i would have thought would have been in breach of guidelines because medical diagnosis is by definition private. this is by definition a breach of privacy and i cannot see that there is any real public, any real justification cannot see that there is any real public, any realjustification for it. we ought to explain to people that you mentioned ipso guidelines which is the independent press standards guidelines and the difficulty is with ben stokes story is that the sign did not preach those guidelines because the story was already in the public domain, wasn‘t it? was already in the public domain, wasn't it? indeed and i did not think, the ben stokes story which is ina way think, the ben stokes story which is in a way more troubling because it is true to stay thank you for joining us.
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say that it was not against the law, it is against ethical behaviour. basically the editors behaved in a way that i would consider to be immoral. and i think most of their readers actually feel the same way and certainly the response on twitter is very angry. sorry to enter into —— sorry to interrupt you, we do not have much time but if you, we do not have much time but if you are saying it is immoral, what do you think should have been?” very much hope that the sun will be given its comeuppance and that people will show the sun that is not the way to behave. i do not think you can necessarily outlaw everything that happens to be unethical. i think what we need to do is hold editors to higher ethical standards and that means that readers have got to say absolutely and unequivocally that i read the
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paper today because i want to find out what the story is about but i am appalled by it and i will not read it again. that is the most powerful thing that the audience could actually do. as i say, unfortunately do not have much time but it is good to hear your thoughts and thank you for joining to hear your thoughts and thank you forjoining us on bbc news.. thank you for inviting me. thank you. susan powell has the forecast. a really quiet weather story across the uk for the coming days but one significant change for the end of the week and start of the weekend, when you will feel rather than see and that is turning considerably warmer. a lot of settled weather as we look at thursday and friday and on into saturday and thanks to high—pressure and across the central and southern suites and a few temperatures could dip down two or three degrees. it is a legacy of cloud across northern scotland following on the warm friend
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bringing wet weather into wednesday. that rain will pull in and through scandinavia and southern spells developing and up to 18 and aberdeen, further south we are looking at kaiser 21 or 22 across southern england or south wales. warmer still on friday and perhaps up warmer still on friday and perhaps up to 2a in the northeast of scotla nd up to 2a in the northeast of scotland and he keeps coming peeks up scotland and he keeps coming peeks up on saturday.
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hello, i‘m ros atkins, this is outside source. mike pompeo has called the attacks on saudi arabia‘s oil facilities on saturdy an ‘act of war‘ saudi arabia says this is the evidence iran was involved in the attack. but tehran says they‘ve proved nothing. the eu‘s chief brexit negotiator tells the uk that it shouldn‘t pretend to be negotiating, if it hasn‘t got any new brexit proposals. and remember this on monday — when luxembourg‘s prime minister held a press conference next to an empty podium after borisjohnson pulled out. he‘s been defending the move in an interview with the bbc. i thought we should go and speak to the people and tell them to have
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respect and i promised

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