so, all sorts of places we can start, but why don't we start with the guardian? and a very striking headline, saudis to trump: here's oui’ headline, saudis to trump: here's our proof, now world must respond to iran. daisy, of course, this is in the wake of the attacks on the saudi oilfields at the weekend, and the saudis today have produced some compelling photographic evidence of what they say are drones and cruise missiles prove iran was responsible. the iranians we must of course repeat deny any involvement. the iranians are denying it, but as you say, the saudis had this very dramatic press conference this afternoon, showing as they put it bona fide evidence that these drone attacks on saturday, which took out

attacks on saturday, which took out a huge amount of the world's oil supply. so this is both a diplomatic issue, it is an issue where donald trump is saying it could lead to war, and of course it is a massive global financial issue when you have that much oil taken out. we had this press conference saying it was the iranians, what are you going to do about it? the iranians denying it, saying it was the rebels who had done it, and they were saying yes it was. but of course all eyes are on washington to see what donald trump has said. he said this could be an act of warand has said. he said this could be an act of war and is starting to increase action so we willjust have to see how it plays out over the next few days. but certainly we know the city will be watching, the financial district, in all countries will be watching it, and it will have very big ramifications.” will be watching it, and it will have very big ramifications. i mean, potentially this is really dangerous, isn't it? we always look at this currently as iran against the west and the west against iran,

all right, and yet the centuries old, and certainly in the last hundred years rivalry that has now become utterly poisonous and is com pletely become utterly poisonous and is completely destructive is the shia — sunni rivalry, i do mean it to call it is much worse than that, iran shia and sunni saudi arabia. just as in the 1600s christians went together as protestant and catholic all over europe, so the same is happening in the middle east, and they fight it by proxy, just like big western parties used to do, and they fight it by proxy in other countries, yemen being the classic example, as we speak. so it is not just about america and or britain or france or anybody else, this is about how does that suck in the guh? about how does that suck in the gulf? because you've got the gulf, so gulf? because you've got the gulf, so you've got kuwait, qatar, bahrain and then the united arab emirates

with dubai and abu dhabi, you've got that, and on the other side of the gulf is iran, and on the side of the gulf is iran, and on the side of the gulf behind them is saudi arabia. so you suck in the most tremendous influence on the world if you start being bellicose about this, and as they come out with their oil, they go through that very narrow bit called the straits of hamas, which iran could basically close if it wa nted iran could basically close if it wanted to. the world holds its breath culturally all over the world, but there is another big one here which is of course that, daisy refer to it and she is absolutely right, in all the markets of the world, saudi is the big boy of all production. although america is not reliant on the oil, is it? not any more, its shale gas production means it is self—sufficient. it does take it is self—sufficient. it does take it from saudi but it doesn't have to riff the world ended, and nor is a

lot of the world of its own, but of course it is the biggest producer, so course it is the biggest producer, so if it turns the tap off, oil will go through the roof and that is so inflationary and it affects everybody. know what happens is if they don't turn the tap off, but because their production has reduced because their production has reduced because of this attack, then what happens, who fills that gap? hello, russia. so you've got this enormous geopolitical and geo— financial play, and of course iran code, the national oil company, is looking to float, on the stock exchange, an introduction to the public market, new york and london especially. if you are going to invest money in it, asa you are going to invest money in it, as a pension fund, say, and suddenly realise they are amazingly vulnerable because anyone can drop a drone over one of these and close it down, two things happen, you might not want to invest at all and if you did you would invest at a lower

price. so if it is iran, if it is, then iran will have done it for many reasons, because it knows what is coming by way of retaliation. one of the things it has done is reduce the value of iranco on world markets. the other thing relevant in this country is we know donald trump and borisjohnson had a phone conversation about this, it is in the ft. you can't help but think really, is borisjohnson going to be concentrating on this, will he really give it his full attention when we know what most of his time is being taken up with. and if you look at world alliances, there is an unspoken, probably not even unspoken alliance, where you have america, you have saudi, you have israel, defined by only one thing together, which is none of them are in favour of iran at the current moment. now israel, you've just reported of iran at the current moment. now israel, you'vejust reported in of iran at the current moment. now israel, you've just reported in one of the headlines, i think it is the times, saying israel is at stasis, because neither the opponent or the incumbent is winning a general

election, so you may imagine, you have a prime minister in britain whose eye is not on the ball, it is another ball, you have israel, where they have no proper leadership, you have saudi arabia, trump and iran. it isa have saudi arabia, trump and iran. it is a very, very dangerous time. yeah, absolutely. let's turn to the telegraph. daisy, a picture ofjohn humphrys, my bbc colleague of course, on the front page, humphreys hangs up his headphones. this is after 32 years on the today programme. i after 32 years on the today programme. i mean, after 32 years on the today programme. i mean, has he provided a soundtrack to your mornings? you are a presenter on breakfast so you're not listening to him. exactly, as someone who has covered politics for 25 years, he of course has been a huge influence and it does feel like the end of the era. there aren't many journalists, the end of the era. there aren't manyjournalists, bbc or otherwise, who would get a whopping great picture on the front of the telegraph the week of their retirement. he is mid 70s, which is a very fine age to be hanging up your headphones, as they say, and i

do think this week has been a really grim weekfor do think this week has been a really grim week forjournalism in this country. we have had some horrific stories about low standards in journalism, whether talking about ben stokes, gareth thomas, they have both been at the rough end of some very nastyjournalism, both been at the rough end of some very nasty journalism, and both been at the rough end of some very nastyjournalism, and i think it's nice to be celebrating somebody with a great career. a fine career behind him. whether or not you like his combative style, and it is not everyone's cup of tea, he is someone who has held standards up over his career, andl who has held standards up over his career, and i just who has held standards up over his career, and ijust think in a week where as a journalist i have been really embarrassed by the horrible stories about murky, mucky journalism, it is nice to be able to celebrate a decent journalist. digby, what is it like you must have been interviewed by him? many times. when i was at cbi, he must‘ve interviewed me, 20, 30 times. we are seeing the passing of an era because both dimblebys are going, and john

is also going off the stage. paxman has gone off the stage. what's it like? i will tell you one thing that the next crop don't tend to do is ask the second question. they tend to ta ke ask the second question. they tend to take the first answer and move on to take the first answer and move on to another question, whereas what this guy is incredibly good at is he's opened up the wound on the first question, he sticks the stiletto in with the second. and when you hear people who are of a new generation, i'm screaming at the radio saying, do a john humphrys, go in with your second question, because that's the one, it's the second question that will get what you are trying to achieve, and john humphrys was the past master at it. he always gave me a fair time. he often gave me a very hard time, but he was always fair, and i remember once saying to him afterwards and the green room, i said why are you fair with the green room, i said why are you fairwith me? the green room, i said why are you fair with me? you said you answer my question. he said all i want is you to a nswer question. he said all i want is you to answer my question, and i did say, well, you might like to give me

the time to do it. yes! he says if you answer my question, i am fine, and politicians don't tend to answer the question so he is to give them a ha rd the question so he is to give them a hard time. i am a fan, god bless him. is he perfect? certainly not, as you said, not everyone's cup of tea, but i think quality radio news delivery at early morning in the united kingdom will be less well off because he is going. and i would like to see a woman retire at 76 from broadcast news. i know that sounds a little bit militant, but that would be my next ambition. here, here, i'm with you on that one, dhesi. older women continually to broadcast. i am not only with you, i think it is absolutely right, but i've got a great face for radio, and the one thing that radio can't do is be accused of sexual discrimination in the same way that, oh, you've got to have looks if you are on tv, and i think having looks on tv is disgraceful, but you can.

and i tell you, one of the things that broadcast viewers, listeners and editors and executives have been accused of in the past or have been guilty of in the past is believing that only a man has gravitas. so of course you tend to get the older man, he is so serious, he has that gravitas, that real welly. there was this implication partly because a woman's voice was too high. or shrill. yes, hysterical, whatever it might be. we are moving away from that but that certainly has helped some male broadcasters stay in the job. oh, i some male broadcasters stay in the job. oh, i mean, i'm often on radio and i've been told to sound more like a and i've been told to sound more likea man and i've been told to sound more like a man in the past. actually, there is a bit of a champion in the making on exactly, to back up what you are saying, fiona bruce on question time. because that has been a male dominated environment in terms of presenter since robin dave. and she is doing it, in her way, thank heavens it is in her way. but

hopefully there is an example where the last thing on earth she has to do is sound like a man. let's get back to the papers, digby.|j do is sound like a man. let's get back to the papers, digby. i was doing my bit there!|j back to the papers, digby. i was doing my bit there! i know you were, we haven't got much time, this is why there isn't a second question, never enough time. children born by c—section may have weakened immune systems. i have to say, i read this in my heart slightly sank, more reason for some women to have to feel bad. yes, of course the consta nt feel bad. yes, of course the constant beating up of weather you didn't manage to breast—feed or you didn't manage to breast—feed or you didn't manage to have a so—called natural birth, are going to be made to feel guilty. it sounds like it is very big study. we've heard the stories before that there's something about a child being born naturally, i will use that gives them more immunity to various conditions, like adhd, asthma, autism, diabetes, many others. but this is a seven—year study, which does seem to be backing up these

theories, and says it is the hypothesis is that the moment of birth gives a sort of thermostatic moment, which sets the immune system for future life, and they are saying it definitely needs to have more studies, and it is the bacteria that the child is exposed to as it comes out is the thing that is very, very helpful. now i was lucky, in some ways, and didn't have to have a c—section, but certainly there were ple nty of c—section, but certainly there were plenty of downsides of that. but i just think, i do worry for exactly your point that this might be used asa your point that this might be used as a stick to beat expectant mothers who perhaps want to have a cesarean for whatever personal reason it is to make them feel guilty. forgive my ignorance of the subject and i bow to superior knowledge but isn't there a different between voluntary and involuntary c—section? there a different between voluntary and involuntary c-section? yes, elective and non—elective.

and involuntary c-section? yes, elective and non-elective. but some electives are for good reason, some are that people... too posh to push. and all that sort of things. but again that in such a derogatory phrase, and some people are too posh to push but some people, there are all sorts of reasons that aren't obvious. at 11:30pm, i will tell you about mine. there is a promise. john humphrys and yours all in one.” just want to turn to the metro, digby, just sort our nhs, this is borisjohnson digby, just sort our nhs, this is boris johnson accosted digby, just sort our nhs, this is borisjohnson accosted by digby, just sort our nhs, this is boris johnson accosted by a digby, just sort our nhs, this is borisjohnson accosted by a man in hospital. the rest of the story carries on page five, and we only see this little bit, but the guts of the story, he visits a london hospital, there is a father who 2a hours before his baby girl nearly died because i gather what would be called inefficiency. nothing to do with clinical care, inefficiency. don't know anymore about the subject soi don't know anymore about the subject so i won't comment on it but the concept is here he is and what can only be called a political visit, and a father says just sort our nhs,

in other words, my words, stop grandstanding on politics and just get on with yourjob. but either way, has there ever been a politician of any party at any time he doesn't want a photo op in a hospital? but the trouble with the story has been it transpired this particular chap is a labour activist. now i can't see why that is relevant at all. he wasn't there asa labour is relevant at all. he wasn't there as a labour activist, he was there as a labour activist, he was there asa as a labour activist, he was there as a very worried father of a seven—day—old baby. as a very worried father of a seven-day-old baby. but would he have said it? yes, and i think downing street did absolutely the right thing, they said so what, if he was a tory activist who still would have been upset if his baby was very ill. would he have given corbyn a hard time? who knows? i kind of thing he wouldn't.“ corbyn a hard time? who knows? i kind of thing he wouldn't. if he has really got these complaints about the hospital, he has every right to tell the prime minister. of course he does, and men died on beaches so that guy has every right in the

world to tell the senior government man in the land exactly what he thinks, face—to—face, man—to—man like that, and i like being in a country where that can happen. on that note, we have to leave it there but there is more time at 11:30pm because you will both be back. thank you so much for now, that is it for the papers at this hour, but digby and daisy will be back at 11:30pm for another look at the papers. don't forget, you can see the front pages of the papers online on the bbc website. all there you seven days a week. if you miss the programme in the evening you can watch it later on bbc iplayer. for now, digby, daisy, thanks, thanks for watching and for now goodbye. hello, a very good evening, turning into another one of those fairly chilly and rather autumnal nights across many parts of the uk. a few

fog patches likely to develop but actually the forecast for the next few days will look and feel a bit more like summer. it is going to turn warmer and it will be predominantly dry, thanks to this. high pressure, which currently is centred right on top of the british isles. the winds underneath quite light, that is part of the reason why we again see some fog patches, these most likely across northern ireland and north—west england, as we go through the small hours of thursday morning. some patches of cloud floating across the south of the uk, more generally cloudy conditions in the north of scotland, the odd spot of drizzle here as a consequence of that extra cloud, thatis consequence of that extra cloud, that is probably where we will have the mildest air overnight. some spots in england and wales down to four or spots in england and wales down to fouror5 spots in england and wales down to four or 5 degrees. thursday morning if you are out through the rush hour, could be one or two fog patches particularly for northern ireland, north—west england, but one or two other spots as well. predominantly through the day a lot of sunshine, some patches of cloud floating with east anglia and the south—east. conversely this cloud across scotland should break up to some extent to give a bit more in

the way of sunshine by the end of the way of sunshine by the end of the day. top temperatures just a touch higher than they have been today, 17 to 21 degrees. friday, again potentially some fog patches here and there, again some areas of cloud drifting through but generally speaking a lot of sunshine, a sunny day i think across scotland, that is where we can see the highest temperatures. 2a possible in the north—east of scotland, more widely i9 north—east of scotland, more widely 19 to 21 degrees, and there is more warmth where that came from, because as we have through friday night into saturday, we will be pulling up some very saturday, we will be pulling up some very warm saturday, we will be pulling up some very warm and quite humid airfrom the near continent but that's only half the story for the weekend. we also have these frontal systems trying to make inroads, trying to turn things more unsettled, so it is a bit ofa turn things more unsettled, so it is a bit of a battle ground. it looks like on saturday the dry, sunny and warm weather will win out for most of us, quite a breezy day, but you will see some thunderstorms trying to sneak into the south—west of england, wales, northern ireland, is the day wears on. those temperatures 21 in glasgow, may be 25 or 26 down

towards the south—east. there is some uncertainty about sunday's forecast but it looks like no showers and storms will try to become extensive across the uk. some doubt about just how widespread they will become. some spells of sunshine in between. but by this stage, it sta rts in between. but by this stage, it starts to turn cooler and fresher, 18 to 21 degrees and into next week, things look very autumnal. so enjoy this late taste of summer.

this is bbc news. the headlines at 11:00pm: the finnish prime minister calls on borisjohnson to put forward his alternative brexit plans within 12 days, or they warn it's over. a bbc news investigation finds teenagers in care are being placed at risk of abuse in unregulated homes. saudi arabia says debris from drones and missiles proves the attacks on two oil sites were unquestionably sponsored by iran. president trump says he will substantially increase sanctions on iran. the pensioners who planned to end their lives together. mavis ecclestone survived and is cleared of murdering her terminally ill husband. and at 11:30pm, we will be taking an in—depth look at the papers with our reviewers, former trade

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