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camberton are both here in the studio. two regulars. great to see you both. let's get started. we have the time. pm flies back to chaos. he lands today from the united nations general assembly. it has the various points here, supreme court rules unlawful. it is a constitutional crisis? to answer that directly, this has been a constitutional crisis for quite a long time that has been building. what were seeing now is an intent by the supreme court to rain the constitution back ina court to rain the constitution back in a little bit. in any other times other than brexit, this would be a good thing. everybody would be saying it is good that we have these constitutional checks and balances, it stops a wayward government, it means that we have parliamentary
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moxie, which is what we all hope for and what we all live for. it is a reassertion of the british constitution however unwritten it is. the problem is this type of thing unlawful, what is lawful about denying the 17.4 million people who voted brexit, the problem is it has become political and it will become political. thejudgement become political and it will become political. the judgement itself was illegal — make a legal one and it was arguing that the government was breaking the law. the times talks about boris johnson, his breaking the law. the times talks about borisjohnson, his reaction to all of this saying, i actually don't, i disagree with the outcome of the supreme court, although we will respect it. it talks about this 13 minute cabinet meeting he had with his cabinet, he was on the phone from you new york. jacob rees—mogg saying it is a constitutional coup. yes, shades of callaghan here, what crisis? he flies back into this headline. i think that actually for all the noise of the supreme court will have
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made as a result of yesterday's ruling, i don't think it changes the politics at all although it doesn't change the numbers in parliament, doesn't change the fact that october the 17th when he goes to the european council is the key dates, it doesn't change the fact that the labor party is not about to accept that there should be a general election until there is an extension, and it doesn't change the fa ct extension, and it doesn't change the fact that the conservative party is split on this. we are still going to be waiting until after the 17th of over. at that point, for him to resign because he doesn't get what he wants is just resign because he doesn't get what he wants isjust going to mean that we go past the october the 315t deadline, so the opposition won't be keen for that to happen either, because we will get into a no brexit scenario, a no—deal brexit scenario. i don't think the supreme court judgement changes anything. if anything, it seems to strengthen his hand in terms of the whole people against parliament debate, which is the narrative that he is trying to
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create at the moment. and that is a narrative we see in the telegraph, isn't it? which obviously, he writes a column for isn't it? which obviously, he writes a columnforand isn't it? which obviously, he writes a column for and his quote at the top of the telegraph, which is, let's be in no doubt, there are a lot of people who want to frustrate brexit. and those people are in the course and are in westminster. absolutely, and the same in the express another 17.4 million. what people forget is although that was absolutely a clear mandate, the people did speak again in a general election in 2017 and they delivered what is basically a hung parliament. and it is because of that hung parliament that we are in a situation we are in. so there are two separate mandate here that are fighting with each other effectively, and within parliament, as we have talked about so many times on this programme, there is not a majority for anything. that fa ct not a majority for anything. that fact has not changed just because the supreme court has ruled that prorogation was unlawful. however, mps return to work today, and as
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mark says, things will not change, and these headlines, though, that we are looking at, the times, we mention the daily express, we have looked at the telegraph but they are —— dominated by the story across the uk. it reflects the polarisation, doesn't it? it reflects the debate going on. we saw that at the labour party conference over the weekend and yesterday. there is no clear thinking in politics at the moment about what the next steps are or where we go. everybody is waiting for everybody else. you have the likes of the liberal democrats led byjoe swinson who said we have clear thinking, we remain, the labour party conference where they stand, jeremy corbyn got his way, which is neutral. they outlined their way of going forward with it. you say we are not clear, there is no clear way forward... the parties are trying to make their case clearly. so there is a problem
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within the conservative party, the conservative party is divided. the labor party is divided as well and that was quite clear over the last few days. never has the labor party leader made a speech that has been so leader made a speech that has been so swept away by the broader news that has been around. the crisis is about the clarity, and that is the clarity around the clear next to seth starr, what the steps are towards the 17th of october and beyond, and this is one of the things, the earlier commentator was talking about, it is creating a lack of certainty, creating a lack of clarity for business, and that is worrying. mark, the conservative party conference starts on sunday. are you going? i am not going, no. they are trying to push saying let's get brexit down and let's talk about the agenda that the party wants to bring forward. why are you not going? the same thing has come from the word go, and that is that we need a deal, we need a compromise,
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and the key question is whether he can come back from the european council on the 17th of october with a deal and he can put it in front of parliament and they are enough people on either side of the debate here who fear that they are going to lose completely what they are after. how will they address the conservative party at the conference? he is a leader of the party, the prime minister had, he has been defeated six times in parliament since he became prime minister, he seems to have broken the law. what is going to be like at that party conference? he is running this narrative that he is being thwarted at every turn by the establishment and is trying to deliver the referendum for 2016, and i think that this will play into his hands on that. he is still talking about looking for ideal, there are enough people in the conservative party who don't want a no—deal brexit but who feel that it has to be on the table in order to get a
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deal. but it is a high—stakes game of chicken, a high—stakes game of poker. however you want to look at it, he has to get that deal after the 17th of october and get it through. moving on to what is going on in washington where they are having their own crisis there. the photograph of boris johnson having their own crisis there. the photograph of borisjohnson next to donald trump yesterday, you couldn't really make this up. that is nancy pelosi there, the leader of the house on the front page of the new york times. impeachment proceedings are moving forward. give us your ta ke are moving forward. give us your take on this situation. are moving forward. give us your take on this situationlj are moving forward. give us your take on this situation. i think what we are seeing here is a sort of aggregation of a few years of frustration and desire to hook something on to donald trump, we have had the mueller enquiry, all sorts of rumours going on, and this isa simple sorts of rumours going on, and this is a simple message that it looks like they may have been some kind of potential interference, and their is
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lots of ifs and buts there. the problem at the moment is that the congress has a case, but so does donald trump. there is a lot of plausible deniability in their, and some of it may be considered implausible deniability, but the problem is this doesn't actually have time before the 2020 election campaign to run through a full course, and it probably won't get through congress. my, president trump's responses what he says every single time. it is a witch hunt. this smacks of desperation on the pa rt this smacks of desperation on the part of the democrats because i think it does blow away into trump — leggett does play well into trump ‘s metanarrative. i get a feel that one of their own is being attacked coming into an election and therefore they are going to swing behind him in a way that they might not otherwise have done. the timing of this is very, very curious and it
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suggests they don't have any other cards to play or feel they don't. the new york times points out it has raised the possibility that mr trump could become only the fourth president in american history to face impeachment. bill clinton being one of those. for bill clinton, it didn't affect as part —— popularity at all, did it? yes, itjust looks like a political attack and trump is very, very good at extending that narrative and he will continue to do so on narrative and he will continue to do so on twitter and his base will come by him. we have run out of time. we can't get to the frequent—flier story. would you be all right with paying a more tax? it seems to me there are airport taxes anyway, so it isjust a case of increasing them slightly. who knows? there might be a better way of doing it we shall watch this space on that story. a better way of doing it we shall watch this space on that storym is on bbc online. thank you both for your company on the briefing and thank you for yours. i hope you have a really good day. i will see you $0011.
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hello there. well, september had been on course to be a dry—looking month across the south of the uk until our most recent spell of very unsettled weather. now, yesterday we had this area of low pressure bringing heavy rain, some thunderstorms mixed in with that. some really heavy downpours, actually. it caused some localised surface—water flooding. that was just one of the storms, quite near the bbc around the oxford circus area in london. now, in boscombe down in wiltshire, we recorded 59mm of rain over the space of around about the last 24 hours. that's exactly a month's worth of rain, and with more rain in the forecast, of course, now september, for a number of us it's going to be much wetter than normal. well, here we are. the rain continues to move in across the south of england, southern parts of wales. gusty winds around the english channel coast as well, gusting at around 30—40mph. the winds a little bit lighter for the northern england and scotland but we still have rain around here as well. through wednesday, our area of low pressure will eventually start to pull away and the weather will get a little bit less soggy for a time, although there'll
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still be showers before the next weather system works in from the west through the afternoon. so, rain at times probably best sums up wednesday's weather. the rain with strong winds across southern coastal counties of england initially. the winds eventually calming down through the afternoon. the skies trying to brighten up, but again, there will be some heavy showers around. then we've got the next area of rain that's going to work its way into northern ireland as we go through wednesday afternoon. temperatures, well, 18 or 19 degrees, not feeling particularly cold, but on into thursday's forecast now, and the next area of low pressure follows in quickly. sets of weather fronts moving across the uk followed by south—westerly winds. those winds still bring a lot of cloud and still a lot of showers, so even as the rain clears its way through, the skies brighten up for a time, but further showers come in, and those showers again could be heavy with some thunder mixed in, so some heavy downpours to come at times during thursday. temperatures, well, just falling a few degrees across scotland and northern ireland, the airturning a little bit cooler here. england and wales, little overall change, 18 or 19 degrees the top temperature for thursday. friday's weather,
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well, it's another unsettled day, more rain pushing its way northwards and eastwards across the country again followed by showers through the afternoon, some of those heavy and thundery. temperatures friday afternoon, well, again, the coolest weather across scotland and northern ireland, 14 or 15 degrees celsius here. so feeling a little bit cool in the wind. further south, england and wales, temperatures coming down a little bit across western areas with highs of 16 in cardiff. on into the weekend, well, it stays unsettled, stays quite windy with showers or lengthier spells of rain at times. that's your latest weather.
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good morning from westminster withjon kay. the house of commons‘ doors will re—open today after the dramatic supreme court ruling that the prime minister's suspension of parliament was unlawful. borisjohnson has cut short his trip to the un and he's flying back now to face mps, but has rejected calls for his resignation. i have the highest respect of course for ourjudiciary and for the independence of our courts but i must say, i strongly disagree with thisjudgement.
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