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you're watching beyond one hundred days. borisjohnson sends his brexit blueprint to brussels. the british plan will give northern ireland a unique status — partly aligned to the european union, partly aligned to the rest of the uk. mrjohnson says the proposal is a "broad landing zone on which a deal can take shape" but he says the eu will need to compromise too. we are tabling what i believe are constructive and reasonable proposals, which provide a compromise for both sides. the irish government is talking down the chances of a deal, but the eu says it will enage with the plan objectively. the no deal will never be the choice of the eu ever, for we will continue
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to reach a deal to work with the uk team. also on the programme... in the oval office, president trump takes the impeachment inquiry to a new level — accusing the whistleblower of being a spy and a top democrat of treason. these are bad people, these are dishonest people, and when the american people find out what happened, it is going to be a great day. the democrats plan to issue more subpeonas and warn the white house and the secretary of state not do anything that will obstruct their probe. hello and welcome — i'm michelle fleury in washington, christian fraser is in london. borisjohnson has delivered his long—awaited plans to the eu today in an attempt to secure a brexit deal. his proposals to replace the irish backstop are ambitious.
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the prime minister said both sides will need to consider whether there is sufficicent willingness to compromise and move beyond their existing positions. as things stand now, both britain and northern ireland are part of the customs union and the single market. the sticking point is that we need some customs controls checks to collect taxes on goods from outside the uk and eu. the british suggestion of checks away from the border — online and just a few physical inspections — is seen in brussels as being problematic. this keeps the uk in the single market for all goods, notjust food and agricultural products and that there will be checks on goods from there will be checks on goods from the british mainland to northern ireland, somewhere in the irish sea,
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could they live with that? there would be no further checks at the irish border, so brussels is worried. and borisjohnson says the northern ireland assembly must approve it before any new system kicks in and every four years afterwards. yes, this is a compromise by the uk andi yes, this is a compromise by the uk and i hope very much that our friends understand that and compromise in their turn. if we fail to getan compromise in their turn. if we fail to get an agreement because of what is essentially a technical discussion on the exact nature of the future customs checks, when that technology is improving the whole time, let us be in no doubt, conference, what the alternative is. the alternative is no deal, and that is not the outcome we want, it is not the outcome we see at all but let me tell you, my friends, it is an outcome for which we are ready. mrjohnson has already been busy trying to sell his plans to the eu,
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talking this afternoon to irish taoiseach leo varadkar, german chancellor angela merkel and european commission president jean—claude juncker. in a statement released afterwards, mrjuncker welcomed "boris johnson's determination to advance the talks" and acknowledged positive advances. he noted that there are still some "problematic points relating to the governance of the backstop" and "the substantive customs rules". most leaders were still digesting the details of the proposal this afternoon. there is scepticism, but the eu says there remains a commitment to consider "objectively" what boris johnson has set out. translation: we will closely examine the proposals. i cannot say anything yet today on that and this is also what we agreed. we will first evaluate them together. it's important for us we stick together as 27. we trust michel barnier. we will continue to work to try to reach a deal. the no deal will never
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be the choice of the eu ever, so we will continue to reach a deal and to work with the uk team. we are not there yet, we hope people will see this as the sensible way forward that we think it is. we have been engaged in trying to find a way forward that works for the all of the united kingdom, not least those of us who live here in northern ireland because you want to leave the european union. in an orderly fashion. our political correspondent rob watson is in oxford. does this have legs? cannot move forward in any shape or form? i've just i'vejust got back i've just got back from conservative party conference so excuse me if i sound out of breath, and greetings to christian and to everybody else. the european union hasn't said, you've gotta be kidding, sling your
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hook, i'm sure they never were going to but i'm sure the answer to your question as we must be patient, we will find out in the next few days. i would think it will be amazingly ha rd i would think it will be amazingly hard for the european union to agree to this because both on the issue of the customs, which seems to me to rely on all sorts of technology which doesn't yet exist, and on goodwill, no smuggling, and in terms of that issue of northern ireland staying in the single market, that is the regulatory bit of the european union, is only with the consent importantly of the pro union protesta nt consent importantly of the pro union protestant party, the democratic unionist party, you can see how that will be amazingly problematic for the european union and i guess it will all depend onjust the european union and i guess it will all depend on just how desperate is the eu to avoid a no—deal brexit, maybe theyjust do not think that is a realistic prospect anyway. there was one suggestion that the eu were going to try and talk to the british
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government to try and find out what their hardline tsar. does that sound feasible to you or is this simply an exercise in trying to avoid getting the blame of a deal cannot be reached. everyone knows howl hate a copout answer but i think i'm going to say we are going to find out immensely shortly. i will characterise this way. if you look at these proposals, whose mrjohnson and his government, and the adviser most worried about upsetting? hardcore pro brexiteers in their own party or the european union and remain as is my be much more worried about upsetting pro brexiteers in own party. why is very to make sure you union and to really bore eve ryo ne you union and to really bore everyone to death without again, the customs union is the way in which there are no customs inside the eu but they all have the same trade policies with the rest of the world and that was a key promise of the
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referendum campaign. that was something very important for them. guy verhopfstadt said it was knocked feasible. we have also heard government will procure again on tuesday with the queen's speech beachcombing on october 14. what do you make of that? have i got time to tell you a brief story about guy verhopfstadt? i met a woman at the conference, i love to talk to delegates and getting rid of the place. she was a really ardent brexiteers and i asked if she was worried about any of the stuff about problems for businesses, northern ireland. she said that she could not bear the prospect of guy... she could not say his name but she knew
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she didn't like him. that is one thing i picked out. what was the other part of your question? white macro going. oh, yes, extremely important. us and thejohnson administration will have taken from last i must keep it short. it will only be a couple of days. will there be objections from opposition partisan? maybe some grumbling. actually i'm not sure if there will be time to ask about this. i imagine it will be really hard to get a parliamentary majority for it. what do you do about ousting him, boris johnson, to make sure the uk doesn't leave without a deal, which, as they would see it, is a disaster? so much to talk about.
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thank you so much for talking to us. we will talk to you later. what was striking to me today is some of the reaction from the opposition parties. there was a round of criticism from several leaders. one of which was the leader of the brexit party who treated rather colourful language basically on the irish backstop point. he referred to it, you can see that boris only wants to change one part of the withdrawal agreement, he said it's like putting your head in a crocodile's mouth and hoping for the best. the thing about the brexit party at the moment, they are flatlining. they are of course a big threat to the conservative party and they are starting to look like they, if they gain, it will be at the
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expense of the tories. they will try to portray this as a reheating of theresa may's deal but the interesting thing was away from nigel farage, there were two or three surprising people who said if the eu gets on board with this, we would vote rose within the party. gareth snell, ruth smith, we spoke to both of them last week. there was also nick bowles, the independent, who walked away from the conservative party saying, yeah, i could get behind a deal. that might be politically expedient because they might think this deal has no chance of flying. we willjust show your relative radio. they would much rather have a deal or no deal. also they are acknowledging that they have to engage with this. they are saying borisjohnson would walk
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away anyway and you have to put the stuff in place. the big question is, if you do try to walk away, could he do it legally? we will be in for a real legal bonfire then. we could talk all day about brexit. we are going to turn away from brexit because president trump is hosting the finnish prime minister at the white house and is expected to speak to the press in the next few minutes and no doubt there is going to be a torrent of questions relating to the impeachment inquiry. he's already been discussing it today in the oval office — taking aim at democrats, the press and yes the whistleblower. i think ithinka i think a whistle—blower should be protected. if the whistle—blower‘s legitimate. the whistle-blower wrote, not that conversation, he wrote, not that conversation, he wrote a vicious conversation, in other words, you either got it totally wrong, made it up, or in information. you have to find out
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who that person is, because they are a spy. there have been a number of key developments through the day. the inspector general for the state department has requested an urgent meeting with congress. we don't know why, but to call an urgent meeting during a congressional recess must be significant. this morning mike pompeo, the secretary of state, who is in italy, said that he was on thejuly phone call between president donald trump and ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskiy that led to this impechment inquiry. he had previously denied it. and this afternoon we have heard from the speaker nancy pelosi and the chair of the intelligence committee that any attempt by the secretary or the president to interfere in their investigation could lead to impeachment for obstruction ofjustice. here's adam schiff‘s statement. we are deeply concerned about secretary pompeo's efforts now to
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potentially interfere with witnesses whose testimony is needed before our committee, many of whom are mentioned in the whistle—blower complaint, and you want to make it abundantly clear that any effort by the secretary, by the president or anyone else to interfere with the ability to call before relevant witnesses will be considered as evidence of obstruction of the lawful functions of congress. and joining us now is michael moore — a former us attorney who specializes in whistleblower law. starting with those comments there from president trump, he is not backing away from saying he wants the right to confront this whistle—blower. the right to confront this whistle-blower. that sets a dangerous precedent. there is no question your laws are written in a way to protect people who come forward to report fraud, abuse, mishandling, illegal conduct as is the case here. in his comments, that
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can be seen as being an indirect, yet over at the same time threat with someone coming in and talking about him. the case is you do not need a whistle—blower. you have got a redacted confession from the president when you release that court transcript. he essentially admitted the allegations made against him, he asked for a favour, for a foreign power to investigate his political rival. we just heard adam schiff in that clip. one of the things the democrats are saying is the white house has been constantly stonewalling them. they are now threatening subpoenas. what happens if the white house does not comply with these the subpoena is. if the state department does not comply with them. they can be held in co nte m pt of with them. they can be held in contempt of congress. you can find yourself in front of a federaljudge in the court can make a decision based on the enforcement. the president has had a tendency to overuse the claim of executive privilege throughout his administration, which we saw a few
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weeks ago. it was amazing to me that someone weeks ago. it was amazing to me that someone would claim executive privilege with someone that was not yet the executive but that was the claim as he moved forward. the courts will get involved, things will get bogged down. you will see that the democrats have their head down, they are moving forward, they have boosted president of the decider they arejust have boosted president of the decider they are just moving forward with the enquiry, which i think is what they need to do. just like a prosecutor or investigator would do. a delay? it is a delay tactic at the president feel emboldened somewhat. one of the allegations from the president is that adam schiff was in some way orchestrating this as the ringmaster. he was directing the whistle—blower‘s account. the new york times reporting in the last few minutes that they are hearing the whistle—blower gave that early account of his complaint to a us house aide who then outlined it to the intelligence committee. is that
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significant? does that matter?|j don't significant? does that matter?” don't know that it really matters. i think there is a process and what we heard testimony that it appeared the whistle—blower had followed the proper protocols to move the case forward. he seems to want to hear from the whistle—blower. i think there are a lot of red herrings and a lot of smoke that is thrown out. it is irrelevant because you have the conversion on the telephone call. just taking us briefly away, we will come back to you but i think we will come back to you but i think we can see there, we are waiting to see the president come and speak in a short while, and of course when he does appear there at the podium, we will bring you that live. rudy giuliani, the president wasn't private counsel, earlier this morning, and a now deleted tweet,
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basically said he was going to take legal action. how does that fit in? what is it —— but what do you make of it and how does it fit in with what is going on? this is a pattern of what it will try to do when they feel things fighting on them the president do a lot during the campaign and his time in office, saying he was going to sue the people who said he committed sexual assault, it's always that we will ta ke assault, it's always that we will take legal action or sue, and that is the town that this administration sets. the problem for rudy giuliani as he has is on whose time he was travelling on when he went over and when he made the effort. this you go over with the hest of the president or state department? his travel records and billing records will tell those things and if you want to try to move into this realm, he was appropriately there, you will not have any trouble sharing that information with us. what is surreal
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is the tony, bill barr, highest law officer in the land of the united states, is flying round the world are urging forthe states, is flying round the world are urging for the ring intelligence officials to investigate american intelligence agencies. i can't help but thinking there may be some people working for these agencies who are wondering in the context of what you're hearing whether they are actually doing the president's bidding and whether they... when he meets... they meet bill barr, is he doing the bidding of america or the fitting of the american president? anyone in government who is going around asking for questions, favours or posing questions, trying tojet up or posing questions, trying tojet up investigations, they care with the mantle of the office and the power of the united states. so he cannot really power of the united states. so he ca nnot really ta ke power of the united states. so he cannot really take that heart of, ask them to do your dirty work and at the hat back on. that is something he has misunderstood. we will see how far he goes into this
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but it appears, and i think the president has talked about when he got rid of the attorney general session that he wants someone to be his lawyer, his advocate to take ca re of his lawyer, his advocate to take care of him. you may have found that in the attorney general if in fact those allegations proved true that the attorney general was moving forward and asking people to do things. it is unbelievable to me as we sit and say this, the president or member of the administration would ask a foreign power to investigate a political rival. i think you're talking about circumstances that would not be foreseen by the draft or the whistle—blower, or by the founders. wire if you look at the origins of the molar report. the rights he fulfils, is this in holding with that? you like your policy right to the constitution but remember that
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they give a very slanted view when they give a very slanted view when they give a very slanted view when they give the narrative about what they give the narrative about what the report was and she was working for the department ofjustice at some time, and i think this is part of the effort attacked the outset. attacking the steel dossier. that is how... every criminal and every courtroom does it every day. if they get something wrong, they immediately attacked the police. they bring into question the prosecutor or the employment record of the police officer. out of this information get out there? that is how what they do. they are feeling that the walls start to... may be the overall walls start to constrict around them somewhat.” the overall walls start to constrict around them somewhat. i suppose donald trump will not really mind what democrats are saying for the people he is concerned about our
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republicans and specifically republicans and specifically republican senators. it seemed to me had one or two of them who have been speaking out but the former chair of the senate intelligence committee came out the other day and said, enough on the whistle—blower because he's been one of those who has advocated for whistle—blowers. is that a problem for the president, if he continues to ride roughshod over the institutions that, at some point, the republicans will turn against them? sure, i represent whistle—blowers everyday, it's what ido, and whistle—blowers everyday, it's what i do, and chuck grassley sees himself as the grandfather the whistle—blower stature here in the us, the false claims act. he has drafted legislation, he has been a proponent of legislation to specifically protect people who find themselves in the whistle—blower position. what the president is saying is of key members, keep republicans back away a bit from state m e nts republicans back away a bit from statements of the president is making, you see the moderate star to move making, you see the moderate star to m ove over making, you see the moderate star to move over to support the impeachment enquiry, that is bad news for the
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president as he goes through. that is made by the republican members of the senate and that is that they stand a better chance of keeping the senate with somebody else at the top of the ticket. i'm not sure he is at that point yet but i do think you see him stepping forward into the role which we see on a regular basis, which is that he is an advocate and proponent of the whistle—blower and whistle—blower process. just to show our viewers who may bejoining of the podium in washington, the finnish prime minister is a guest of the president today at the white house, the two of the bank then will appear at the podium ina the bank then will appear at the podium in a moment but we are chatting with michael moore about some of the developments on the impeachment enquiry today. back to rudy giuliani. he's gotten a lot of words at the moment when he tours the tv studios and it seems to be that his interest do not align with the secretary of state, mike pompeo, because he's been saying that he was working in ukraine as a sort of
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advocate the state department but the secretary of state is pushing back on that and, at some point, when they are subpoenaed, they will have to answer for that, weren't they? you like they will, and you see pompeo asking to push his time off. there is question whether the documents can be turned over and we will now make himself available. what happens, we have seen on time and time again with administrators, they get out, the talking heads come out and they tell different tales. that is because the president out time and time again. reports today that the watchdog within the state department, the inspector general there, has called a meeting. relating to documents involved in ukraine. how unusual is that? you like very unusual. not to go back to
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the whistle—blower report, remember it was deemed by the inspector general there. you have to see those things is what we talk about, intelligence information, things affecting national security, you can tell that they overcharge the projector. why is over, we can see the president walking into the room there. he is with the leader of finland, they are about to the podium. we will see what they have to say. look at all the press that you attract, can you believe this? that is very impressive. they are not after me. i hope not, you're lucky. thank you very much today it is my honour to welcome the
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president of finland to the white house and, mr president, it's a wonderful to host you once again in washington, we've got to host you over the last period of time and it has been a great experience. the president and i havejust has been a great experience. the president and i have just concluded very productive discussions over exciting opportunities for our two nations. before going further, i wa nt to nations. before going further, i want to express our deep condolences over the horrific stabbing attack that took place yesterday at a couegein that took place yesterday at a college in finland. america's praying for the victims and their families, and we send our unwavering love and support. the american and finnish people are linked by an abiding commitment to self—government, individual rights, democracy and the rule of law. this past may, our country celebrated the 100th anniversary of america's recognition of the independent nation of finland in 1919. as
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president wilson wrote at the time, our recognition was prompted by the sympathies that our cause to our own declaration in 1976. the century at -- 1876. declaration in 1976. the century at "1876. a declaration in 1976. the century at —— 1876. a century later, we are united by the same cherished values. central to this effort is our nation was my cooperation when it comes to defence. although finland is not a member of nato, you would save a lot of money. —— save a lot of money. they participate in nato exercises and i'm sure they are substantially increasing the military budget. american finland are also working together to advance the ability, freedom of navigation and respect for national sovereignty in the arctic. both our nations are committed to a secure arctic region free from external intrusion, interference and coercion. simply
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put, we believe that the affairs of the arctic should be governed by the actual nations of the artic and, as you know, there are other people coming into the arctic and we don't like it. we cannot let it happen. we will not let it happen. the united states and finland are likewise partnering to ensure the security five g networks. it is critical that we use safe and trustworthy technology providers, components and supply chains. we welcome the establishment of the innovation centre in finland, it has done a fantastic job with that. centre in finland, it has done a fantasticjob with that. this innovation centre will greatly expand american and finnish businesses, and cooperation in 5g. we are also glad that the finnish company nokia, a great company, global leader in 5g technology, is developing its cutting edge products right here in the united states in
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the labs in newjersey. the united states foreign direct investment from finland totals over $10 billion. each year, finnish owned companies invest more than $120 million in research and development in america and expand our exports by more than $1 billion. just today, a new manufacturing plant was opened in dayton, tennessee. a300 and $67 million investment creating hundreds of brand—new jobs for a million investment creating hundreds of brand—newjobs for a great state, tennessee. we love tennessee. they made a wise choice. you never lose when you go to tennessee. i encourage other finnish companies to increase their investments in the united states. there are simply never been a better time to do business in america. we have passed the largest tax cuts. and also regulation cuts in the history of our country. we slash business tax
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and we are fuelling job growth through a record—setting campaign to abolish all of those really terrible, unnecessary regulations. we have plenty of regulations but many of them we did not need, we got rid of them. the economy is booming, incomes are rising, employment has hit its lowest level in more than half a century. we want finnish companies to join in america was an extraordinary economic revival. so many countries are coming in. it's the hot place. we have the hottest economy in the world and it's the other place to be, they all want to be here. the president and i are also working on a way to improve international trade, based on the principle of fairness, and my favourite word, reciprocity. i hope finland, which now holds the rotating presidency of the eu council, will support a reference that might our efforts to achieve a
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mutually beneficial agreement with european union, we will have to start doing something because they have not been treating the this country right for many years, they know it, i tell them and they know it. america was my trade deficit with the has been averaging $160 billion a yearfor with the has been averaging $160 billion a year for many, many years. this would greatly benefit finland and the united states. we also appreciate filling's strong partnership in combating predatory trade worldwide, including the theft of intellectual property. from trade to security to travel, commerce, we are in mostly grateful for to security to travel, commerce, we are in mostly gratefulfor our deeply valued friendship with the people of finland, great people. we are now working on a deal to sell a large number of fighter jets to finland, see how that works out. we make the greatest jets finland, see how that works out. we make the greatestjets at the world, we make the greatest missiles and military equipment anywhere in the
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world, no one is close. mr president, i want to thank you again for visiting, the history of our two nations is a testament with the importance of our independence and resolve to defend it, i look forward to continuing to work alongside you as we safeguard our precious sovereignty and build a bright future of hope, harmony and peace for the american and finnish people, and thank you very much for being without at the white house and the oval office, a very special number hours, appreciate it. thank you. first of all, i will deliver your condolences... celebrating 100 years of diplomatic relations between the us and finland. the finnish president or make his remarks, we mightjust get back into the questions when were they pause for questions. but we will press on while we wait.
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and joining us now is lanhee chen — who acted as an advisor on mitt romney's presidential campaign and is now a fellow at the hoover institution. the president sticking very much on message during that press conference, but earlier in the oval office he was much less measured and spoke out once again on several topics, including adam schiff, what did you think of his performance? this is a presidency that feels under siege from all around him, whether it is from within his administration, his discussion of the whistle—blower and his feelings about that, obviously congressional democrats who are gathering for an impeachment process. they are trying to handle it differently from the muller probe. that for the democrats was a challenging outcome in part
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because the result was not exactly what they expected. they are trying to put together a process that in some ways is more deliberate and more measured. the president is feeling back. feeling more pressure, not just feeling back. feeling more pressure, notjust on feeling back. feeling more pressure, not just on himself feeling back. feeling more pressure, notjust on himself but on those around him. if you look at mike pompeo, admitting he was on that phone call. when previously it had not been clear that he was. yes, and giuliani's conversation admitting that he spoke to the ukrainians regarding the joe biden that he spoke to the ukrainians regarding thejoe biden situation, people who are close to the president, so the challenge becomes for the president how he can continue to keep everybody on the same page. particularly with congress getting more aggressive with its subpoena power, they want more information from the president and people within the administration. they are thoughtful not just of their administration. they are thoughtful notjust of their relationship to the president but of their political future as well, they have to have
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jobs and a reputation in this town after this administration is done. our day going to react and respond? that will be an interest in question going forward. we are expecting the inspector general from the state department who has requested an urgent meeting at congress to give details about what concerns him, maybe we will get a leak in what he is concerned about, but some of the reporting is that people who work for the state department have been leaned on by senior people. does that start to bring into focus a possible further charge of obstruction of justice? possible further charge of obstruction ofjustice? it will be interesting, part of the challenge will be just getting the information, figuring out if there are people within the administration for example who are able to speak out. this may be why the special envoy or ukraine who will testify before congress tomorrow the administration, precisely to be free, feel free to discuss things that happened. he is doing this in
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pa rt that happened. he is doing this in part because he left the administration and is able to speak. there will be a challenge for people within the administration to speak freely, as so there will be war over transparency between the executive branch at the legislative branch which brings into focus some basic constitutional legal questions. you represented or were an adviser at one point to mitt romney, he is one of the few republicans who has spoken out, condemning what we are seeing here in this ukraine phone call. at what point do you think others willjoin him? i think it will be difficult for a lot of republicans to do so, because senator romney is in a unique position, he is at a unique station and point in his career and frankly he has guided by moral compass that a lot of other politicians don't have. for republicans the challenge
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is, how do you speak out against a president who so clearly has the support of the electoral base that you need in your own constituency? but also the megaphone off twitter and the media to amplify a negative message about individual politicians? out of fear a lot of republicans are not going to be more edgy towards trump. some call for transparency, saddam hussein we ought to know the facts, but in terms of actively being against the president, i think it will be more challenging to find a lot of republicans who will do that. challenging to find a lot of republicans who will do that] challenging to find a lot of republicans who will do that. , a democrat perspective, we have seen the numbers tightening, the people who back and impeachment enquiry, we are seeing how it is running back everything else, democratic candidates struggling to balance a message on this alongside the message on this alongside the message that they want to carry forward into 2020. this is precisely the challenge that every campaign in
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the challenge that every campaign in the us faces on the democratic side, which is how do you balance this anti—trump message which clearly is very problem with the progressive base with a message that i represent change, a policy difference from the president, and this may be why for example you saw speaker nancy closely talking and emphasising their is an agenda beyond impeaching their is an agenda beyond impeaching the president, drug pricing legislation, legislation on gun violence, these are issues that the democrats care about, but on the campaign trail it is difficult for candidates to avoid the vortex, articulate a forward—looking message while still appearing tough on trump. it will be the balancing these candidates have to strike in these candidates have to strike in the coming months as this impeachment enquiry goes on. good to talk to. thank you for coming in. the reason they have to stay releva nt the reason they have to stay relevant is because of the money, the dollars we were talking about
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yesterday, the fundraising which breathes life into these campaigns. if you look at the numbers they republicans are putting out, donald trump in the third quarter has raised an astonishing $125 million to help his re—election campaign. more significantly, in the last three days since pelosi launched impeachment proceedings, $50 million in small donations was raised. that tells you his base is firmly behind him. they are already spending about money putting it to work in adverts. yes i have seen some of them on facebook. back to the press conference where they are asking questions. this has been going on for many years. no relationship to our vice president, nobody believes that, but it is
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true. i have been introduced assess father, brother, uncle. we are friends. good afternoon. when i arrived in helsinki, about a year and a half ago, there was a stack of paperon and a half ago, there was a stack of paper on the desk, a couple of which concerned indigenous peoples... we will go back in when the questions are happening. there are lots of questions they want to ask but we will come away from that for now. let's just imagine that europe does agree to the proposals submitted by the prime minister today. he'll then need to get them through the house of commons where, let's not forget, he does not have anything approaching a majority. he'll need the support of at least a few labour mps to do this. stephen doughty voted against may's withdrawal bill several times— what does he think of the new prime minister's plans. what i have seen so far i think it
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is unworkable and potentially unlawful. for me it appears to contradict what the government says about their own law in 2018, because the impact it would have on the good friday belfast agreement and also because it introduces checks that do not have the agreement of eyelid or indeed the eu. we are at the start ofa indeed the eu. we are at the start of a process of discussion, but it seems from the comments coming from dublin, pickle parties across northern ireland, i looking at details of this is not workable and therefore it is either a sham as was suggested last night to drivers was a disastrous no deal or the prime minister will have to find another way forward and one that can command a majority in the house of commons as well as the agreement of european partners. and yet, the european commission president, jean—claude juncker, a significant movement. they say they will engage properly. there are members within your own
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party, to a have seen tonight, who say they will vote for this deal if it was approved by the eu, so there are people who are looking at it seriously. people want to find compromise and i do as well, but the only way to do that is to find a workable deal to leave, and one that respects the good friday agreement might does not create borders and checks and unnecessary restrictions. let's not forget we were told there would be frictionless trade and not customs checks and yet this proposal creates not one but two borders, one time the ibca and one either at or around the border between northern ireland and the republic. neither of those things are acceptable. they cause a particular problem for those of us in places like wales and scotland, north—west of england, in effect giving a privileged position to northern ireland on some issues but creating discord and blockages on others. that is not workable in my view. we need to see a serious deal to relieve idly to put that
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back to the people, that is the way i think we will find compromise in the house of commons and for mps like myself to be able to vote for it. an exact transcript of my called don by very talented people that do this, exact, word for word. don by very talented people that do this, exact, word forword. he don by very talented people that do this, exact, word for word. he said, he did not do anything wrong. he made it up, he went up to a microphone and a front of the american people and in congress where it out and he gave a whole presentation of was that the president of the united states never said. it has to be a criminal act. he should resign. some people even say it was treason. it was a very sad thing. the call was perfect, the real ca ll sad thing. the call was perfect, the real call that i made, many people we re real call that i made, many people were on the line, i knew that, because usually but i speak to foreign countries leaders, you can name any one of them, but i know
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that we have many people listening from various intelligence agencies. i know all about it. so this isn't something that, i am on the line, let's talk about a big secret. this is many people on the line, we will find out how many. many people, mike pompeo, didn't say anything, because they listen for both knowledge and security reasons and for lots of reasons. the president of ukraine at the united nations, and previous to that, he announced through his spokesperson that there was absolutely no pressure put on him, there was no quid pro quo at all. if you look at this whistle—blower, i have a lot of respect for whistle—blowers but only when they are real, his report of the focal was totally different from the fact. but what got them was they never thought i would release the call, because i don't like do that, i hope
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i don't have to do it again. releasing focus to foreign dignitaries, i don't want to do that. i don't want to do it again. but i did it with the permission of the ukrainian government. we got permission, we called up they have representatives and asked if it would be ok, otherwise i couldn't have done it. i wouldn't have done it, then i would have been exposed toa lie, it, then i would have been exposed to a lie, because the whistle—blower report, didn't he say seven or eight times i said quid pro quo, and otherwise you will do this or you will not get money? in all fairness, joe biden said it and he is on tape. in all fairness you have at least four united states senators, democrats, that said and they said ita democrats, that said and they said it a lot stronger than even adam schiff and his made up story said it. obama when he was dealing with the president of russia, not putin, he said, tell vladimir i can do a
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lot more after the election, you remember that? everybody thought, isn't that cute? my talk and my response, someone said they never do i was that nice. it was perfect. not a thing wrong with it. to impeach a president over a fraud that was committed by other people? that what you win an election in 2020, which they won't? that is incredible. this is the greatest hoax... it has gone on for a long time. we had the mueller collusion delusion, that went on for years. that is finally done. no collusion, no obstruction, no nothing. it was a joke. everyone knows it and it was from the day one. now i get three days of peace andi one. now i get three days of peace and i am walking into the united nations, going to be with the biggest leaders in the world, and i
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hear about the word impeachment, i say, what did i do now? it was about a beautiful conversation that i had, just remember this, the ukrainian president, a fine man, said, i don't know what your talking about, there was no pressure, and he said at a number of times. what is your second question? you shouldn't be asking two questions. do me a favour. ask one of the finnish president. it sounds like it might be a good question. let me see if i like the question. let me see if i like the question. maybe for the first time in three years i will have a good question and i will love it. there isa question and i will love it. there is a report that came out that the whistle—blower is a report that came out that the whistle— blower met with is a report that came out that the whistle—blower met with the staff memberof adam whistle—blower met with the staff member of adam schiff. .. that shows he isa member of adam schiff. .. that shows he is a fraud. i love that question. thank you. can i finish? there is nothing to finish. whistle-blower
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met with a member of adam schiff's staff, got it right there, you know it. i can't believe the new york times wrote it. your response to the fa ct times wrote it. your response to the fact that that happened and that adam schiff may have learned some of what the whistle— blower adam schiff may have learned some of what the whistle—blower knew prior to the complaint. it is a scandal that he knew before. i think he probably helped write it. i give a lot of respect for the new york times for putting it out. as i'm walking up, they handed it to me i'd isaid, whoa, walking up, they handed it to me i'd i said, whoa, that is something, big star. that is a big story. he knew long before eddie helped write it. it isa long before eddie helped write it. it is a scam. —— and he helped. justin finish, you should have asked that question first. let me just tell you, the whole thing is a scam. the mueller deal was a scam, the
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russian collusion was a scam. you can ask putin, no one has been rougher on russia than donald trump. with that being said, it would be great to get along with russia and we will. because of his smart. nobody has been tougher on russia than donald trump. ask one, please. you had a conversation with president trump about 56 and how nokia can fill in that space, you also met with the chinese president during that when you renew the ties of friendship. do you believe that countries, particularly western countries, particularly western countries, that boo huawei equipment and they are 56 cause are at close of national security? as i said already, in europe the situation is maybe a bit different from that here. the company you mentioned is
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inside europe. partly at least. what european union is now doing is making a risk assessment. asking each country what kind of experience, what kind, what you have found out. that will be out in two weeks' time and after that... update on some of what the present has been talking about, referring to the whistle—blower account. the impeachment story, saying that he has respect for whistle—blowers when they are real. he went on to say that adam schiff, the chair of the house intelligence committee, maybe should be prosecuted for treason, and you would have seen holding up the new york times article. the suggests that adam schiff got an early account of the whistle—blower
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was make accusations. donald trump is trying to infer that in some ways he steered this whistle—blower complaint, taught how to write it. whether a knot that is the case, i suppose adam schiff will have to a nswer suppose adam schiff will have to answer for that but it is a gap any democrats' story and something they will be pushed on. he was also asked if he would cooperate with any subpoenas, he said he would before going on to describe it as being the greatest hoax. i lost count of the number of time to use the word hoax and scan. you were listening to that, what you make of it? much more measured presidential response in this press conference than we saw any proceedings earlier today. i think for the president there is a balance. between trying to appear transparent, as though he wants his administration to be transparent, but himself feeling like this is a scam and a host, he is sincere when he says those things because i think he says those things because i think he really believes he is under
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attack. how does he strike a balance between appearing transparent and wanting to be a transparent versus expressing what history point of view is? so far things have been moving very rapidly. you can see the white house, president trump and eve ryo ne white house, president trump and everyone tried to catch their breath. does it continue at this pace or do you think there are effo rts pace or do you think there are efforts to stonewall, slow things down, potential legal proceedings? the democrats will proceed with what they have, regardless of what the administration does or does not do. if the administration does not comply with the cepedas, that gives the democrats and opportunity to say they are not complying, but my feeling is it benefits everyone to have this move quickly, so the democrats will advance this in a way that will have an impeachment vote this fall with the actual impeachment trial taking place right around the holidays. we will have to see what happens but i think it will continue to move quickly at everyday bobbing a lot of breaking news. that
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is what they watch going into the holidays. we are going back to donald trump is taking another question. some bad things have gone on andi question. some bad things have gone on and i think we will get to the bottom of it. it will be a total reversal. i have lived with this cloud for almost three years. more than that. it probably started even before, and i think nobody has done what i have done what you look at tax cuts and regulation cuts and rebuilding our military and right to try, right to try, that means people that are terminally ill and very sick have the right to use our medicines, because well so far ahead of every other country. so many things we have done, our veterans, nobody thought we could have choice, wait in line as a vet, you go outside to get a doctor, we pay the bill, you don't have to wait three weeks if you are a vet. we cherish
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our vets. for many years other administration did it but i take ca re of administration did it but i take care of them. no administration has done, i have lived with it since the day i got elected. i am just fine with it. we had a conversation and discussion on an equal basis, which i really appreciate. i had one request specifically, i wanted the president to take more notice of transatlantic relations. because i consider it useful both for usa and europe, when we were discussing also trading, i told the president that the big purchase we are doing on fighters will be finished in two years' time. we have five different
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candidates, three from europe and two from the united states. he answered that how it is best. that's like ours is best. mr president, i would like to ask about your use of the word treason. you have used it repeatedly in the last few days. do you consider anyone who opposes you treasonous? no, i consider when daylight and stand before our great body in our great chamber and they make upa body in our great chamber and they make up a story that it's fiction, like adam schiff did. he took that perfect conversation i had with the ukrainian president and he made it into a total lie. it was a total fabrication. you do admit that, it was a total fabrication. he said, this is mike the only ones that do not like my conversation otherwise that never read any. but they heard
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shifty adam schiff. that is why i call a live, and because of the fact that he is lying about the president of the united states, i watch my words very carefully... wesley's sunshine was a relief for many to all the relief rain we have seen, this is it, high—pressure continuing to build in from the west as we head through this evening and overnight. still and a cold air mass, still pretty cold to start thursday morning. the strong winds which we have had across north—eastern scotland down the east coast of england should tend to ease down along with the showers. meanwhile cloud building up across southern and western areas, more of a breeze from the south—east for cornwall and devon, not quite as cold, nine celsius for plymouth, another chilly one elsewhere, a touch of frost across parts of northern england and
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into scotland. starting off with high—pressure four thursday, looking to the west to x hurricane lorenzo arriving later on thursday, during friday to bring a spell of wet and windy weather. that storm will eventually arrive across much of ireland through thursday, bringing gales and also some huge waves, the republic of ireland gradually ploughs building across western britain, gales will develop some i receive coasts. largely dry and fairly bright across central eastern areas. quite chilly any north—east, temperatures creeping up across the south as storm lorenzo continues to work its way in. thursday night and friday, storm pushing its way across the country, weakening dramatically, isobars opening, the wind will not be quite a strong. windy with gales for the south—west, the rain will tend to drift southwards into the near continent and it looks like we
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will end friday only try and brighter note. milder in the south, 17-18dc, 111-15 brighter note. milder in the south, 17—18dc, 111—15 across parts of northern ireland and scotland. the weekend, remnants of storm lorenzo into the near continent, this band of rain and wind spread in around the middle part of the weekend, but another ridge of high pressure building. a mixed weekend, some sunshine around but also a little bit of rain around, saturday night into sunday with showers following on behind. it will stay on the mild side.
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this is bbc news, i'm ben brown. the headlines at 8pm. borisjohnson publishes his so—called "final brexit plan" — telling the eu the only alternative is no—deal. yes, this is a compromise, and i hope very much that our friends understand that and compromise. the president of the european commission, jean claude—juncker said there were positive elements to the proposals as well as problematic ones — and others warn they don't meet the agreed objectives of the irish backstop. the no deal will ever be the choice, the eu, will continue to reach a deal with the uk team. donald trump lashes out at the whistle—blower behind the impeachment inquiry into the president dealings with ukraine, accusing him of being a spy.

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