tv Victoria Derbyshire BBC News October 11, 2019 10:00am-11:01am BST
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hello, it's friday, it's ten o'clock, i'm joanna gosling. is greta thunberg the winner of this year's nobel peace prize? she's among the favourites, and we'll find out in the next few minutes. the teenage climate activist would become the recipient of the 100th prize if she wins. this is the scene live in oslo. the announcement is about to happen. we will bring it to you when we get it. all over 75s should get back the licence fee for free. a report out today is highly critical of the bbc and the government over the decision to means test it. this 81—year—old lady feels so strongly about the issue she's travelled here from wales to tell us what she thinks. it's the party capital of the world but what impact are tourists having on the resources, nature and the beauty of ibiza?
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i mean, we are partying in paradise, basically, and paradise locations are sensitive ecosystems. they can't withstand, like, this city lifestyle. hello, welcome to the programme. we're live until 11 this morning. do get in touch on all the stories we're talking about — use the hashtag victoria live. lots of you have been getting in touch. a lot about that decision to means test the bbc licence fee for pensioners and can quit —— criticism for both government and the bbc. one says, i do not receive benefits because i'm a fraction below that threshold. if pensioners have to pay for a licence, i would need to sell my tv. i am struggling to manage at the moment. anon on text: i am on pension credit but would be prepared to pay
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a contribution to a tv licence for bbc only partly because of the quality but equally the relief from annoying ads in my face. liam on text, put ads on the bbc and problem solved. license needs scrapping. outdated old boys club. if the treasury pays working people will be paying twice. tv licence concessions should be means—tested and not free for wealthy pensioners! why should a working family on a low income pay for a pensioner to sit at home watching tv! let us know your thoughts but we could go straight to oslo and the announcement of the nobel peace prize. piece does not arise from the actions of one party alone —— peace when prime minister kepa reached out his hand, the president grabbed it and helped to formalise the peace process between the peace process between the countries. at the
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norwegian nobel committee hopes the peace agreement will help to about positive change for the entire population of ethiopia and eritrea. in ethiopia, even if much works retains, abiy ahmed has initiated important reforms that make reforms that give many citizens hope for a better life and a brighter future. he spent his first hundred days as by minister lifting the country's state of emergency, granting amnesty to thousands of little prisoners, discontinuing media censorship, legalising outlawed opposition groups, dismissing military and civilian leaders who were suspected of corruption. and, significantly,
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increasing the influence of women in ethiopian political and community life. he has also pledged to strengthen democracy by holding free and fair elections. in the wake of the peace process with eritrea, prime minister abiy has engaged in other peace and reconciliation processes in east and north—east africa. in september 2018 he and his government contributed actively to the normalisation of diplomatic relations between eritrea and djibouti after many years of political hostility. additionally, abiy ahmed as it sought to mediate between kenya and somalia in their retracted conflict over rights to a disputed marine area. there is no
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hope for a resolution to this conflict. and in sudan, the military regime and the opposition have returned to the negotiating table and on the 17th of august they released a joint draft of a new constitution intended to secure a peaceful transition to civil rule in the country. prime minister abiy played a key role in the process that led to the agreement. ethiopia isa that led to the agreement. ethiopia is a country of many different languages and peoples. lately old ethnic rivalries have flared up. according to international observers, up to 3 million ethiopians may be internally displaced. this is in addition to the million or so refugees and
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asylu m the million or so refugees and asylum seekers from neighbouring countries. as prime minister, abiy ahmed has sought to promote reconciliation, solidarity and social justice. reconciliation, solidarity and socialjustice. however, reconciliation, solidarity and social justice. however, many challenges remain unresolved. that if the announcement that the winner of this year's nobel peace prize is the ethiopian prime minister abiy ahmed to put that there had been a lot of expectation that greta thunberg might win it, she was reportedly on the shortlist but this man has won. the description as to why he won was because of the extraordinary pace of change there has been in his country since he came to power in april of last year. he has already introduced a raft of reforms including lifting a state of emergency, ordering the release of thousands of prisoners, allowing dissidents to return home and unblocking hundreds of websites and tv channels. it is for those reasons that he has won the nobel peace
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prize. let's catch up with a summary of the rest of the news. good morning. the cabinet has been briefed on what happened in the meeting between borisjohnson and his irish counterpart, leo varadkar, head of the resumption of brexit talks with the eu but at the brexit secretary, stephen barclay, is in brussels the eu chief negotiator michel barnier. downing street and up michel barnier. downing street and up said they could see a pathway to a deal. at least 11 siblings have been killed and tens of thousands have fled their homes after turkey began attacking kurdish forces in syria —— 11 civilians. there has been international condemnation of the action but turkey says it is going to create a safe zone for syrian refugees. president club has suggested he could mediate between the two sides put at the white house is struggling to fend off accusations that he gave the green light to the turkish invasion by withdrawing us troops. accord a patient with secondary breast cancer
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had to visit their gp three or more times before getting a diagnosis according to a charity. breast cancer now says it is unacceptable that some people are not getting early access to treatment. gps say they are doing their best for patients but symptoms can be difficult to spot. a teenager has been stabbed to death near stratford shopping centre in east london. police found the 15—year—old boy suffering from stab wounds on stratford broadway yesterday afternoon. they believed he was either attacked on a bus or shortly after getting off. scotland yard said no arrests had been made. the five—year—old daughter of imprisoned british iranian woman nazanin zaghari—ratcliffe has returned to uk. gabriella has been living with a grandparent in tehran and visiting her mother imprisoned since she was arrested on spying charges more than three years ago pulled up her pa rents three years ago pulled up her parents decided to bring her back to the uk so she can start school. the bbc and government are being told to find a way of saving free tv
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licences for people over 75. of the corporation had agreed to fund the scheme as part of its new charter agreement but now says it cannot afford it. it was previously paid for by the government put up the immediate select committee of mps save both sides had to work together to find a solution. cambridge university said black student made up university said black student made up more than 3% of new undergraduates for the first time and says it is partly down to the storm is the effect. last year the grime artist pledged to fund the tuition fees and living costs of two student each year —— de stormzy effect. 91 black students were admitted to the university up from 61 the previous year. it says it has also seen an increase in the number of stu d e nts also seen an increase in the number of students taking part in outreach activities and enquiring about courses. japan is braced for the strongest typhoon to hit the country in more than 60 years but that the authorities at want of widespread destruction over the weekend put a practice and qualifying sessions for
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the japanese grand prix have been cancelled and too much is in the rugby world cup have been called off conduct that is the main news, back tojoanna. turkey's attack on north—eastern syria is in its third day today. turkish troops went into the country yesterday as the bombing continued. around 60,000 people have made the decision to flee their homes. several civilians have been killed and dozens more have been injured on both sides of the border. so, why is turkey doing this? president edrogan says that kurdish forces in the north are terrorists. he claims more than a hundred have been killed in the operation so far. these kurdish troops are allies of the us. they've helped defeat and then contain thousands of is fighters. president trump has suggested that he could lead a mediation between the two sides. turkey is trying to seize land just inside the border to create what it claims is a "safe zone" in syria to settle some of the millions of syrian refugees who have fled the eight—year war. that area, in the north east, is known to the kurds and others as rojava.
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let's speak to carne ross, a former diplomat. he has advised the kurdish—run administration in rojava, and is now the director of advisory group independent diplomat. also elif sarican, an activist with the kurdish women's movement. thank you forjoining us. first your reaction to what is unfolding as a result of the american troops coming out? it is an outrage, what turkey is doing to. we need to be clear about it, it is a completely unprovoked attacks on the syrian dem aquatic forces and temple nacker itself which is a self galloping link, democratic region where there isa link, democratic region where there is a remarkable project, women led democracy and where, as everyone has been reporting, there has been enormous sacrifice in the fight against isis which will be jeopardised —— eight self—governing regent. they have lost over 10,000 fighters in that fight and their repayment is to be abandoned to this turkish invasion. donald trump is
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talking about potentially mediating an end to what is going on having come via a fairly circuitous route, talking about the kurds not having supported the us in the second world war. meanwhile, a senior adviser to president erdogan has said there was an understanding between the two presidents about what would unfold. the adviser went on television to say that he knows the scope of what is happening. what is your thought on that? the rest of us don't know conduct turkey had said it wants to establish some kind of deceitfully named establish some kind of deceitfully na m ed safety establish some kind of deceitfully named safety zone on its southern border but they have not set how large it should be and we need to be very clear that this is an occupation of civilian areas. at the main kurdish population centres are ha rd main kurdish population centres are hard up against the turkish border so hard up against the turkish border so when they are talking about a safety zone on its border, with three miles or 20 miles, that means occupying some of the main kurdish
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population centres and causing civilian casualties. what donald trump and president ed again have agreed is a mystery to the rest of us. agreed is a mystery to the rest of us. what we need america and indeed the rest of the west to do is to be clear that turkey must stop this immediately. —— president erdogan conduct can america be an honest broker in this? was president from effectively to blame? he was absolutely to blame conduct he has given erdogan permission to do what turkey has been trying to do for some time and which the us has been restraining turkey from doing. whether we can call that us is an honest broker is one thing but clearly it is only the us that turkey will listen to in whether it continues the assault. we have some new figures from the un world food programme on the number of people displaced, it is now up to more than 70,000 people and events are moving fast, this has just 70,000 people and events are moving fast, this hasjust started
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unfolding. you described the women led democracy in that region and i mentioned you had been to the region and made a film and we can take a look at some of what you experienced. so, this is the tip of the spear. of the fight against isis. they are all so young. so, that is isis in those houses, there. they come out in the evening, like rabbits. are they on that hill over there as well?
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isn't it the same for us, though? if you appear at the parapet, do they take a pot shot? the fighters told me that isis don't like attacking their part of the front line because they think they will not go to paradise if they are killed by a woman. just hearing that made sense on frontier are saying that a syrian hospital is closed after staff fled the bombing —— medicines on —— resort the importance of women in that area could tell us more from your experience. especially in 2012,
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when what we know as the rojava revolution was declared, women were at the forefront from the beginning. it is also important to understand that this political experiment that is happening in northern syria right now also did not come about overnight. women particularly but also kurdish people organising based on the ideas of kurdish leader were organising for decades and particularly kurdish women pushed the women to adopt a democratic ecological and women's liberation list system that has been put into practice. this is what is remarkable for many people, that women were at the forefront of fighting and defeating isis but they have been and still are at the forefront of building this alternative system thatis building this alternative system that is notjust for kurdish people but also arabs, the syrians, many
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christian groups in the region who have also been historically marginalised including armenians and jazz who were attacked by isis in 2014 -- . one of the reports we had from an armenian village that was attacked on wednesday night and some of the inhabitants said it felt like a rerun of the 1915 genocide against the armenian people that was also carried out by the then turkish state. women are at the forefront of all of this. women are essential to every level of administration. there isa co—chair every level of administration. there is a co—chair system so every level, whether in an assembly, a commune, there must be a man and woman who facilitate and administrate this. there is also 40% quota of women for all levels of society and organising. this has been inspiring
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notjust for kurdish organising. this has been inspiring not just for kurdish women and women of the region but for women all around the world. we have seen many messages. this is why it is so important to understand that the attack, the turkish state invasion of northern syria is not just go to create the resurgence of isis, which isa create the resurgence of isis, which is a threat to the whole world, but it also aims explicitly to crush this very new but inspiring system that could be an alternative for all of us. it gives rise to so much discussion, what you're talking about, and we want to talk as well about, and we want to talk as well about the implications of what is unfolding in terms of security. on the role of women, briefly, if you can come why is it that that system has arisen? it goes much further than in many established democracies. indeed. the role of
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women, the kurdish freedom movement that came about, that wanted to achieve kurdish self—determination, many of the organisers of this movement realised that actually creating a new state, new borders, does not solve an issue particularly strict nation state borders, particularly in the middle east but most places in the world don't work for people and so the root and foundation of essentially all forms of hierarchy and oppression is patriarchy. therefore, one might favourite quote was that a society cannot be free without women's liberation. if you are trying to liberate and error, the women's equality question cannot come after the revolution but it must beat the revolution itself because we have seen revolution itself because we have seen around the world, many women
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have been at the forefront of many revolutions but because their social position was not in question during that resolution, they were either in the same or worse positions after the same or worse positions after the revolution had ended. to be able to form an alternative and true freedom, the system must be against pita ahki and against all forms of domination that were built on the foundations of patriarchy including strict state system, the nation state borders but also capitalism. there is a economy being built but is also based on social ecology, saying we should not dominate our nature but to be in harmony with it. and in terms of the role that the syrian democratic forces have played in defeating is, it is not disputed, strong allies of the us, one american marine is quoted as saying, i feel physically ill and deeply
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ashamed that my own country would permit this fate to befall our close allies who have done all of this fighting for us. i want to bring in some comments from people watching, one says, it's notjust the usa who have abandoned the kurds, the uk and france also fought in the coalition against isis. this one says, a truly epic betrayal from trump, the turkish kurdish are only classed as terrorist because they have been fighting repression for decades. we have thrown them to the wolves. one says, america's shameful letting out of the cut as doubtless been noticed by its allies and america is backing down from former dominance and the power vacuum is bound to be filled by someone. what about the point about the role of the uk and france? would there have been any knowledge prior to this happening and how much pressure could be exerted? the turks have been very open about their intention to do this for some time and the only thing restraining them has been in the west saying this was
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not acceptable and to do so would undermine our collective fight against isis. i have been very disappointed by the reaction from the british government to the invasion, it has expressed concern which in diplomatic consent is a mildly raised eyebrow. at the french have been more forthright and condemned the invasion which is the right diplomatic posture but right now what the west needs to do is collectively to gang up on turkey to tell it to stop. this is the only kind of pressure that turkey will ta ke kind of pressure that turkey will take seriously. president erdogan has said that if there is an attempt to stop them doing this, they will open the doors to those 3.5 million refugees to come to europe. this is a threat he has used many times, it is the main leverage he has used on europe on many different issues. whether he would do it is another matter put it whether we can allow the destruction of a democracy, of an ally one that is crucial to our national security that turkey is perpetrating, whether we can allow that to happen is a question that
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governments have to think about very sharply. we are hearing that kurdish led authorities in northern syria have started evacuating a camp of 7000 displaced people after it was shelled. thank you both for coming income interesting to talk to both of you. still to come... a special report on the impact tourism is having on the white isle, ibiza. it generated half a tonne of waste per person this year — 14% more than the rest of europe. and the story about how this taxi driver saved a pregnant woman from a sex trafficker. all over 75s should be given a free tv licence, according to a report out today. the parliamentary committee criticises both the government and the bbc for the decision to means test them, saying the current position is absurd, where only those claiming pension credit are eligible.
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it recommends that the bbc and the government work together to find a solution. damian collins, the conservative mp who chaired the report says "false reassurances" were given. i spoke to him a little earlier. the government have bounced the bbc into taking on the responsible tea and in return the bbc asked for some mitigation and financial compensation which the government granted. they gave the bbc everything it wanted for taking on the undertaking. where we thought there was a lack of transparency was that this was a fairly major change and the players were not given a chance to be consulted on it because it was rushed. also come the way the decision was made in the bbc, the director general‘s advice to the then bbc trust was that they should accept the government. that was important to the decision—making process but the director—general did not formally consult the executive board of the bbc until after the decision had been made and we felt that was wrong and in the future the bbc has a new governance structure now but it should be clear that big
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decisions like that should be agreed formally by the board and there should be omitted record of those decisions and discussions. obviously you have concerns about the way the government at the time handled this and the way the bbc handled this minuted records. ultimately it is pensioners caught up on it so what you say to pensioners who say that companionship of the television is an incredibly important thing? and obviously some feel totally let down by losing the tv licence. absolutely and my sympathies are with them. they were made a promise by the government and the bbc that licence fees, free fees for everybody over 75 would continue and nobody had sought to rescind the policy. they are ina sought to rescind the policy. they are in a position where they are told it will not happen and that has happened as a result of a deal done behind closed doors but at —— between the government and the bbc that was badly carried out, badly thought through, fairly at do not now add up —— clearly the sums do
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not add up. for them to say they will not do it now and we never promised that we what is not acceptable, not a fair way to treat often very old and vulnerable people in society. has the tv licence had its day in its current format? you have spoken about your concerns around rising costs at the bbc and the increase in the licence fee not being able to keep pace with those costs. is it time for a new model, like a subscription system?” costs. is it time for a new model, like a subscription system? i think this debate has exposed the fact that the bbc‘s costs, because of rising costs of production, arising faster than the licence fee is rising with inflation and it's creating a gap in one of the reasons the bbc cannot take on the free licenses is because of this gap. this trend might continue and the problem won't go away in which case we could be in the position where we say the bbc will either need to substantially grow its income from other sources, be it from making
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programmes for other people or having subduction services online through new tools like britbox where people can pay to view all the bbc grams, or they people can pay to view all the bbc grams, orthey might people can pay to view all the bbc grams, or they might have to be a substantial increase in the licence fee which might not be something that the players want to see but clearly the current model will not be sustainable that mug something that fee payers don't want to see. i think we will have to see a bit consultation into how the bbc is funded because it cannot be funded in the way it is today without substantial new revenues or a cutback in services. let's talk now to 81—year—old phylliss preece, who feels so strongly about this she's come all the way from wales to speak to us. and angus hanton is from intergenerational foundation. he thinks the over 60s have enough money and don't need free tv licences. thank you for coming in. i know you have been coming in —— campaigning since the decision was announced but what have you been doing? we feel
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very strongly about this because if we didn't, we wouldn't be protesting. we have been to the assembly and protested on the steps there and, in fairness, we have had public support. the unions have got involved and we also had mark dra keford, involved and we also had mark drakeford, the involved and we also had mark dra keford, the first involved and we also had mark drakeford, the first minister, and the assembly members coming out onto the assembly members coming out onto the steps of the senedd and giving us the steps of the senedd and giving us support. why do you feel so strongly? because we felt we were given it forever and put this to come out of the blue, that is not going to get it next year and the only ones that would precede it was people on pension credit. there are over 32,000 people in wales alone, older people, that do not claim pension credit. are they people who could claim it? one of the things the report says was that actually a lot of people are claiming pension credit where they had not because it
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has raised that as an issue. people of my generation had a lot of pride and to go claiming pension credit was like getting means tested and it is something the older element app a lwa ys is something the older element app always try to keep away from. but this is bridging the gap now because we have two organisations, the bbc and the government, and the poor old pension is stuck in the middle once again. who do they blame? this should have been sorted from day one when it was first agreed that they we re when it was first agreed that they were going to give free television licences. angus, why don't you think there should be free licenses? things have changed. when it was first introduced, the older generation were very much the poorer generation were very much the poorer generation but property is now more likely to be amongst the young. when it was first introduced, loneliness was a big problem for the other generation and it is still a problem but more so for younger people but it is question of intergenerational fairness. where'd you get the evidence to underpin those
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statements? the intergenerational foundation that i worked for had done a lot of research into the position of different generations and it is clear that things have changed. just because things are worse for another demographic, does it mean that in relative terms someone should lose out? not necessarily but of course the baby boomers are the wealthiest generation ever. they would just be come into getting these free tv licences. may be some but busily not all. it was the case that they all would when there was someone over 75 in the household but now it has changed that those who need it... i'm talking in terms of wealthy pensioners from that you're saying it sounds quite rosy for all. it's a mixed picture but as a whole, as a generation, there are probably a million learners over 65, people whose houses or pensions at up to more than £1 million in value and young people would not say that those people to set licence.
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what do you say to that? to pick you up what do you say to that? to pick you up on something about the younger generation. older people are fighting for the next generation. we are not just fighting for fighting for the next generation. we are notjust fighting for ourselves, we are fighting for the ones coming after us. it sounds in this case like you are fighting for your own interests. you are fighting for it to be free forever? they should have gone into this in depth, which they didn't, when they gave the free television licence. there was no ifs and buts. it was, you are given a free television for over 75. these things are always down to whichever is the government of the day. there is the government of the day. there is even a suggestion that even though it was in the tory most recent manifesto it was actually in there as a result of an error because they hadn't meant to put it in there. that was somebody else's fault, not the pensioners. doesn't
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matter what government is in power, the pensioners are the backbone of this country and they should remember that every so often. if they need to be re—informed about it. but i still feel very strongly about this. the television licence is ideal as well for people living on their own, they have no other way of going anywhere or doing anything. the bbc, they like to watch the news and weather and things like that. take that away from them and what have they got? nick on twitter says it's high time the bbc paid their own way. netflix would not send people to your door when your subscription ran out. martin has said, nobody is mentioning disabled people. and another viewer says, the bbc says people are —— and another viewer says the bbc are paying people such enormous wages.
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politicians are now saying it needs to be sorted. we will have to see what unfolds. that is what they are saying about disability. it should be according to need and not age. that's right. that's the whole problem with these universal benefits. they are being given to people just because they are old. thank you to both of you. it's long been an idyllic and hedonistic holiday destination but what impact is tourism having on ibiza? the white island generated half a tonne of waste per person this year — 14% more than the rest of europe. according to figures from the ibiza preservation foundation, this is double the amount that the rest of spain produces. in 2018 more than four million people landed on ibiza's beaches — a quarter of these were from the uk. but campaigners say after all the cars, crowds and yachts disappear, a huge stain is left on resources, nature, and the beauty of ibiza. dance music.
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the island of ibiza has just waved farewell to yet another record—breaking season of tourism from around the world. but, after all the cars, the crowds and the yachts disappear, all of this demand has put a huge strain on resources, the nature and the beauty of ibiza. and we have discovered that, between the tourists and the residents on ibiza, per person per year over half a tonne of waste is produced. that is 14% more than the rest of spain and the rest of europe. like everywhere in the world, ibiza is effected really negatively by plastic and waste. most of the clubs and bars look out onto the water here and, especially after sunset time, the beaches and the sea can get so polluted. but some people are trying to come up with solutions to try and protect what it really is one of ibiza's
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most precious assets. a couple of years ago, we bought a boat and on the second day we sailed with the boat and we found a sea turtle caught in plastic. and we rescued it of course and let it free back to the ocean. but after that, we started noticing there was a lot of plastic floating around. every day the ibi foundation plastic picker catamarans go out with a team of volunteers collecting rubbish from the tourists and residents of ibiza that has floated out to sea. well, we see plastic bags, plastic bottles, refrigerator doors. we see occasionally toothpaste tubes, you name it, everything what is plastic and is floating. how damaging can those types of products being in the sea actually be? well, the other day we saw some sperm whales and they were coming out of the depths back up and there was a floating
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plastic around. and they swallowed it in its mouth. so, the team have picked up every type of plastic possible in the hour we have been here. we have seen plastic bottles, plastic bags, plastic snorkels, rope with plastic on it. how do you avoid catching marine life or fish or something you don't want to catch in there? this one is only to stop all floating materials. the fish will be stopped and as soon as we stop the boat, the fish can swim away easily. i know if we can reach the right spots, we can collect ten, 20, 30 bags of plastic every day. hi, how are you? blond:ish is an active organiser of the beach cleans in ibiza and her project bye bye plastic has motivated djs and venues on the island to limit their waste. she wants to use her platform to create fully zero plastic shows forfuture generations.
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probably after the music itself one of the biggest aspects of your life is travel. we always say, actually, that we are not... the djing part is actually a really small part of it. we're actually just travellers. in the summer, i mean, really, you can play almost every day. your footprint is huge so as an industry we need to come together and take these little small actionable steps, offsetting our carbons, and that's just step one. carbon offsetting is a common way for people to try to lower their environmental impact. if you do something with a high carbon footprint, like taking a flight, you can offset that by playing you can offset that by paying into low—carbon initiatives like planting trees. although the effectiveness of this has been largely disputed among academics. i mean, we are partying
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in paradise, basically. paradise locations are sensitive ecosystems. they can't withstand the city lifestyle. and one of blonde:ish‘s solutions is encouraging artists to go plastic free on their riders, which is the food and the drink that they request for backstage and in the dj booth. with bye bye plastic, for instance, we upgraded our riders to be single use plastic free. it's really a tiny step, but it's about all the fuss, but it's about all of us, all of us djs and agents transitioning the rosters so we all do the change together. the effect from the dj's voice with the clubber‘s voice, that can push the solutions to happen from the clubs. and one method to try and spur venues in the private sector in ibiza to go green is plastic free star ratings systems.
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they want clubs to convert their nights to totally plastic free by 2023. and one of the most world famous nightclubs here, pacha, has just taken a lead to try and set an example to the rest of the island. on an annual basis, thinking about straws and plastic bottles as two key components, upwards of 300,000 straws are used every year within the company and a similar number of plastic bottles. obviously with plastic bottles it's a longer term solution because what's the replacement from a safety perspective, and those kinds of things. but i think between straws, plastic cutlery, laundry bags, takeaway containers, all those things we have eliminated. 300, 400,000 pieces per year is the number we were going through. it's a very significant impactjust from those small changes. tell us about the star rating that plastic free are trying to do on the island and what kind of incentive that is for you guys as a venue. i think it's a really interesting way to feel like there's some kind of reward for companies for getting
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on board with what we should do anyway realistically. our hope is that by leading the way with that and being the first group to gain that star rating, that others will follow and this will be a common thing across the island. another person trying to lead the way with fashion on the island, because what we wear has an impact on the environment. this summer alone, it's been estimated that british tourists have spent over 700 million on holiday outfits. and with some of us only wearing them once, there is a high chance of them being thrown away and dumped on landfill sites. karen windle runs ibiza's only sustainable fashion show. she is keen for torres to turn away from the cheaper, faster fashion brands and think more consciously about their outfits. people will buy in bulk, they are not sure what they want to take away on holiday. people panic buy, and it's not until you get to your holiday and you have to pack that you realise half of this is not going to fit in your case.
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a lot of it is not returned and a lot of it we just throw away. mass production, wastage, literally everything that goes into making a garment, even with manpower, electricity. in 2011, national geographic named this island as one of the worst across the world for environmental impact. eight years on, and as another season wraps up, environmental organisations say the future of ibiza's ecosystem still looks uncertain. recent tests found over 4 million plastic particles per square kilometre in the sea here, when the average is under 150,000. meaning ibiza has the biggest plastic concentration in the mediterranean. sustainability is a journey, it's not a destination. there are constant ways to improve. they call it "the gulag" — an immigration detention centre
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in the philippines that has been making headlines for all the wrong reasons. detainees claim the centre is squalid, rat—infested and overcrowded. nine britons, themselves accused of breaking filipino laws, are currently detained in the centre. they allege corruption and bureaucracy in the centre has led to some detainees spending years waiting for their cases to be processed. our correspondent howard johnson has obtained shocking images from inside the detention centre, and has been to meet the britons inside to hear first—hand what life is like inside the centre. rats and cockroaches, overcrowding and lack of basic facilities. detainees at the bicutan detention centre may have been accused of breaking the law in the philippines, but according to the country's constitution they should be granted acceptable living standards regardless of whether they are innocent or guilty.
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the bicutan immigration centre is inside a police camp on the outskirts of the philippine capital, manila. the camp has long had a notorious reputation. in the 1970s and 80s opponents of the former philippine dictator ferdinand marcos were routinely tortured here. now the detention facility is where foreigners wait to find out if they will face the courts or be deported back to their home countries. detainees are held on charges of anything from visa violations to violent crime. many say they are innocent but can endure lengthy waits to present their cases before a judge. we are on our way to the detention centre now. it's been under lockdown for the last two weeks after a detainee tried to escape. mobile phone use was restricted and visitation rights withdrawn. we will meet some britons today who say conditions in there are really dire. we were not allowed to bring our cameras
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into the immigration centre, but inside i spoke to five uk nationals. one man's allegations particularly stood out. he will allege he went into solitary confinement without food or any human contact. he said he only had a rusty tap for water, which was undrinkable. he says if you get sick inside that you might as well be dead. they might as well hang people when they arrive because conditions there as far as health care are pretty much minimal. that was a little renegade there. we're going back plenty of years, know. the detainee in question wanted to hide his image and some details of his arrest so as not to worsen his situation. he was recently acquitted of the charges and is awaiting deportation. it's gradually got worse and worse. he was put into the cage, which was no taller than 3—foot high. you couldn't stand up. and he just got covered in sores and bites. there were cockroaches in there. he just became very ill.
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he would not have survived two weeks in there. it's really got very worrying now. i knew he was handling it quite well up until a year, and he's getting very depressed now, and he wants out. and there are others who claim the detention centre is not fit for purpose. one of them is the founder of the campaign website voices from a box. it regularly posts news and images from inside the centre, farmed out by detainees inside using their phones. the website's founder, who wishes to remain anonymous, was also once a detainee. there were beatings. people were treated there worse than we would treat farm animals. there were people committing suicide, just had enough, they couldn't take it any more. he says the not knowing when his
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detention was endless like torture. he says the not knowing when his detention would end was like mental torture. i've been diagnosed with ptsd. i'm undergoing therapy every thursday. i don't feel comfortable in trains underground. i prefer to take a bus than be in a confined space where i can't say stop, i need to get off. he says he set up the website to campaign for a reform of the philippine immigration laws to ensure there are time limits on detentions and allow people to be released on bail if they are accused of a minor crime. and those accused of more serious crimes should be dealt with swiftly by the country's justice system. we contacted the philippine bureau of immigration to arrange an interview and discuss the allegations, but they declined to comment. the british ambassador to the philippines is daniel pruce. in may, he and other concerned eu and foreign ambassadors approach the philippine authorities to express concern over standards in the facility.
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clearly i could see from my time there that the overcrowding is an issue. access to basic facilities is an issue. my sense is that there is a genuine determination to address these issues. i think there were plans to expand the facilities as well. you raised concerns. i just wondered if you spoke also about the solitary confinement of some of the brits, they have been stuck in this room for days without decent food, bad water. have you raised this allegation with the authorities? where in that case, or other cases, any of our detainees have concerns about their treatment, obviously we raise them. obviously we escalate them. there are limitations in terms of what we can do. we can't get people out of detention, but we absolutely do everything we can to represent their interests with the authorities who are detaining them, to ensure their rights are being respected.
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for now, allegations of duty of care failures continue at the centre. but even for those fortunate enough to have left it, the trauma will never go away. no matter what happens today, i'm in a better place than where i came from. there is no need to go and ask somebody to open a door, and that's a lot of peace of mind right there. the torture has ended, but the scars remain. a taxi driver who saved a pregnant woman from a sex trafficker has been called a hero. cabbie tahir mehmood told police officers about the woman who was a passenger in his taxi. she had burst into tears and told him about what had happened to her. west midlands police has joined forces with europol to find her trafficker, 26—year—old robert enescu. he skipped bail before being convicted in september and was jailed in his absence for nine years. here is the moment the police met up with tahir and the victim. hello, sir. let me come to the other side.
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she said one of the guys down the road here, he flagged me. tried to talk about... inaudible. 0k. when i came here she was crying. i asked her why she was crying. she said she came from romania on 16th february, five days before. can you help me? i said, what can i do? she said can the police help to me. she is working for sex. i don't want to, she said. can you call the police. do you know her name? she has a passport and everything. and we can speak to tahir mehmood and detective constable clive leftwich who investigated the case. what you did has had life changing implications for that woman who had
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been brought to this country as a sex trafficking victim but didn't realise what was going on until she got here. tell us how we concerned you were when you realised in the car. what did she say to you? you were when you realised in the car. what did she say to you ?|j picked up the woman. a man and woman we re picked up the woman. a man and woman were standing on the road. they told me where to take the woman. i picked up me where to take the woman. i picked up the lady round the corner. she was depressed and crying. i asked her what was happening. she said, can you help me, please. i have come from romania four days before. that man has sent me into prostitution, to this address here, and i don't like it. i want to go back to my own country. can you help me. i said, 0k, country. can you help me. i said, ok, ican country. can you help me. i said, ok, i can ring the police. so i called the police, and they came.
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after that, the police took her. i asked her if she was happy with that, and she said yes. it was amazing moment for her, and the way to tahir responded how he did. she came to your police station to stop she was pregnant, and was trafficked. she was being forced into prostitution but she thought she had come to the country for a job. she thought she was coming to the country for legitimate employment but things were very different for her. tahir1, did you have any questions in your mind as to what you would do?|j have any questions in your mind as to what you would do? i did a good job. i question in my mind, if somebody needs help, you should help them. how much do you hear of people
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coming to the police about these concerns questionably we are getting a rising number of referrals at the moment in west midlands police. we have seen about 900 this year referred to the referral system. she came through an advert she saw in romania offering jobs for women giving messages. it was obviously very different from that. how much money is made by people traffickers and how would it work because somebody was subsequently arrested and they skipped bail but they have been sentenced in their absence to nine years. before we come onto that, how much money is made by the people doing it? pinpointing the exact figure is very difficult. when we executed our warrant as a result of tahir's actions we found thousands of pounds in a brothel, so it isa thousands of pounds in a brothel, so it is a lucrative business. did anything else flow from... somebody was arrested, charged and convicted.
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has anything else flowed from that case? was it a way into something bigger which could have helped others? the good thing for us is that tahir's actions were instrumental in getting the offender convicted. we have become a lot better now with the way we investigate these offences. we have forged strong links with our romanian counterparts and also representatives from the nca who have helped a lot with this investigation. tell us about the man who was convicted and what he was convicted of. he was convicted under an offence under the modern day slavery act and human trafficking. despite its name, it's anything but humane. he was convicted to nine years in custody. but he is in romania at the moment. the case was heard in his absence. we are hoping to execute a european arrest warrant
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soon to bring him tojustice.m sends out a powerful message that if someone is feeling vulnerable, if they speak up then they can get help. absolutely, and people like tahir, who have a lot of contact with the public, who see people every day, they are in a fantastic position to be the eyes and ears for the police and help us if they see anything they are not happy with. somebody in this victim's position, they can ring us and we can commence an investigation. would you do the same again? yes, i would always say something in my life. clive, how fundamental was tahir in this situation, changing it the way he did? he was instrumental in the investigation. i'm sure if tahir wasn't there and thinking as stra ig htforwa rdly wasn't there and thinking as straightforwardly as he did, our victim would be lost to us and we wouldn't have been able to secure the conviction we did. how important is it people come forward? how
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proactively our police investigating theseissues proactively our police investigating these issues without people coming forward ? these issues without people coming forward? without anyone coming forward , forward? without anyone coming forward, itjust doesn't happen, basically. we need that initial evidence. you saw from the footage we had earlier how much distress the lady was in. it shows that tahir's actions really made that difference. thank you both for coming in and congratulations on what you did. the five—year—old daughter of nazanin zaghari—ratcliffe, the british—iranian woman jailed in iran, has returned home to the uk after more than three years living in the middle east. these photos show the moment that gabriella was reunited with her father richard after three and a half years apart. she had been living with her grandparents in tehran since her mother was arrested in april 2016. richard and nazanin said they made the "painful" decision to bring her back so she can start school.
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while in iran, gabriella visited her mother in prison as often as the authorities would allow her to do so. nazanin was sentenced to five years injail in 2016 after being accused of spying which she vehemently denies. richard said last night... "gabriella came back to us late at night, a bit uncertain seeing those she only remembered from the phone. now she is peacefully sleeping next to me. and i am just watching." he will give a news conference at midday and the bbc news channel will cover that. he has previously spoken as well. in an interview about what it means for him to get his daughter back and how things might feel and be. he said it would be bittersweet given the grief it would cause his wife to not be able to see her daughter and it had to be nazanin's decision to allow this to happen. he said prior to her coming back he was feeling a bit daunted. he has been a campaigning dad and husband for a
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long time but he has been a bit rusty as a parent. they have tried to speak on the phone as often as possible but they have had to do it through a translator because gabriella had forgotten how to speak english. she was in tay ran when her mother was arrested in 2016. so richard will be giving a news conference at midday and it will be live on the bbc news channel when it happens. some comments to bring you about tv licences following on from the mps criticising both the bbc and fellow m ps the mps criticising both the bbc and fellow mps in terms of the deal that was agreed to put the cost of tv licences for the over 75 is on the bbc. one viewer says, thank you to the welsh lady for speaking up on our behalf. i am 81 and on my own.
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despite my low income i watch tv all night between bouts of tearfulness. another viewer says the over 75 people in this country have paid taxes over 50 years. don't they deserve free tv licences? another viewer says, couldn't the tv licence be shared in thirds, the government, the bbc and the person themselves sharing each one third of the licence. bbc newsroom live is coming up next. thank you for your company today. it's been a rather grotty start the day. we had a lot of rainfall across england and wales. not a great day to be at the beach but thanks to our weather watcher in dorset for taking that photo this morning. the rain has been particularly heavy across
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wales and england. the rain gradually edging further south but staying wet across central and southern areas in the afternoon. sunny spells further north and some sunshine for northern ireland, eastern and southern scotland but quite gusty winds especially round the coast of southern and western england with gusts up to a0 and 50 mph. temperatures this afternoon around 13—18. tonight, rein in the south will continue well into the early pa rt south will continue well into the early part of sunday morning. showers to come across scotland overnight. rain in the south will continue through the day on saturday and by sunday it will spread back north so many of us experiencing rain on sunday.
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you're watching bbc newsroom live. it's11am, and these are the main stories this morning. the brexit secretary, stephen barclay is meeting the eu's chief negotiator, michel barnier, to see if a brexit deal can still be done. following positive talks between boris johnson and the irish prime minister, donald tusk says there are "promising signals." fears of a humanitarian crisis in northern syria. tens of thousands flee their homes, and the us threatens sanctions against turkey. the ethiopian prime minister wins the nobel peace prize for his role in ending the 20 year war with neighbouring eritrea. a quarter of women with secondary breast cancer have to visit their gp three times or more before
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