tv Beyond 100 Days BBC News October 15, 2019 7:00pm-8:01pm BST
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you are watching beyond 100 days. the clock has never ticked aloud about tonight reports from brussels are that the two sides are nearing a brexit breakthrough. the pound has surged on speculation that the two sides might have found an agreement. but it still has to be sold politically. the deal is understood to understand key concessions from borisjohnson to understand key concessions from boris johnson on customs checks in the irish sea though the precise nature of those compromises have yet to be announced. russia says it will not allow clashes between turkish and syrian forces. it comes as the military offence continues seemingly undetermined by the incoming american sanctions was that also, as
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democrats get ready to take the debate stage in ohio, joe biden‘s son speaks out, defending his business deals but acknowledging some poorjudgment. did i make a mistake? well, may be in the grand scheme of things, yes, but did i make a mistake based upon some unethical things, absolutely not. let the name—calling begin. john bolton compares rudy giuliani to a hand grenade, he counters calling john bolton and atomic bomb. what happened to team trump? hello and welcome, i am michelle fleu ry hello and welcome, i am michelle fleury in washington, christian fraser is in london. british and eu negotiators are said to be very close tonight delivering a brexit deal ahead of thursday's crunch european council summit. it is reported the uk side has given further assurances to brussels today
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on customs arrangements, which have advanced the talks, so there is still a lot of work to be done by tomorrow afternoon to get a draft text ready for the eu leaders. the issues are complex but time pressures a re issues are complex but time pressures are focusing minds on both sides. there is legislation here in the uk of course, known as the benn act, which requires the prime minister to have a deal ready to present to mps by saturday. without that deal, he would be required by law to request a further extension, but by all accounts the french would not block it. they are, though, said to be queasy at the thought of dealing with the house of commons instead of the government if boris johnson were to refuse. what do we know for certain? we know that michel barnier is back in brussels tonight and has promised a brief eu ambassadors by two o'clock tomorrow afternoon. in the past couple of hours, the irish prime minister leo varadkar has been talking. initial indications are that we are making progress, that negotiations are moving in the right direction, but whether we will be able to conclude
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a revised withdrawal agreement which after all is an international treaty in time for the summit on thursday, that's as of now unclear. the prime minister said to me that if we could come to an agreement between the eu and the uk, that he was comfortable he would get it through the house of commons. but of course there are a few hurdles between now and then. first we have to come to an agreement negotiated level, and it has to be proved, and third go to the house of the comments. so there are a few more hurdles to get over. 0ur political correspondent peter saul is in westminster. bring us up—to—date here, how do things stand, what are you hearing? well, we are hearing newspaper reports, and they are just newspaper reports at this stage, that a deal might be close. but those two negotiating teams have been locked in those i’ooitis teams have been locked in those rooms in the european commission building in brussels for almost four
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days now. very little concrete information has leaked out. michel barnier, the chief negotiator for the eu has set a deadline for tonight for an agreement to be reached, so very little time left as faras reached, so very little time left as far as the reached, so very little time left as faras the eu reached, so very little time left as far as the eu is concerned although downing street does not recognise that deadline and says if necessary the talks could continue for a couple of days yet. clearly, though, something pretty serious will have to be in place time that eu summit oi'i to be in place time that eu summit on thursday. it does feel like meetings have been happening in and around westminster this evening. senior mps have been filing in and out of downing street this evening and arlene foster, the leader of the dup, hearing has a meeting with the prime minister in parliament anytime sooi'i. prime minister in parliament anytime soon. watch this space. nothing concrete is yet to report, but they may be something coming very soon.
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presumably that meeting with arlene foster will be crucial, because there is endless speculation that perhaps boris johnson there is endless speculation that perhaps borisjohnson has had to make some sort of concessions specifically as it relates to ireland? absolutely crucial, the dup in all of this, one because of the arithmetic, but two because what is being discussed is the issue of a customs border down the irish sea. that on the surface at least would be something the democratic unionists would struggle to accept. also on the table, the idea of the northern ireland assembly having a veto over the border arrangements coming into effect. we understand that the uk has moved a little bit oi'i that the uk has moved a little bit on that particular issue. it still wants to give the northern irish people in some shape or form a say oi'i people in some shape or form a say on that. well the democratic unionist be on board with that? i think the mood music seems to be that they are at the moment, yes. and also, as ever, it is personal
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relationships that matter here. borisjohnson does relationships that matter here. boris johnson does appear to have a good, strong relationship with arlene foster. we don't want to be in deja vu territory, though, do we? rememberthere in deja vu territory, though, do we? remember there was in deja vu territory, though, do we? rememberthere wasa in deja vu territory, though, do we? remember there was a .18 months ago where theresa may appeared to be on the verge of a breakthrough in brussels, only to get a phone call from arlene foster, who effectively call the whole thing. so yes, the democratic unionists, they may only have 12 mp5 democratic unionists, they may only have 12 mps in westminster but they are a pretty powerful force within brexit. what happened, paul, to super saturday? i have cancelled all of my saturday night plans ready to be there on westminster grain to cover it all. is it going ahead? yeah, we have all cancelled our plans for saturday and now we might not be in westminster at all. officially they are still planning to go ahead with this. remember, if there is not a deal agreed by saturday boris johnson is compelled by law to request a further delay to brexit. politically that will be quite damaging to him having promised time and time again he will get britain out of the european union by the 315t of october. i
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think it might well be the case they wait until the end of the week before confirming whether super saturday is going to go ahead. they are also leaving over —— leaving open the possibility of weekend settings the following weekend if necessary. often these things go right down to the wire in the european union that certainly seems to be the way the government is approaching things at the moment. a lot of mps, particularly english mps, will be happy, because there is the england australia rugby world cup match which kicks off on saturday morning. may be i will forget my saturday night plans, i can tell you in fact the erg, that meeting has broken up so maybe somebody will come and talk to us the programme tonight about what was discussed. i was looking back at some of the archive today and i came across a picture, shall i show you? it is from exactly one year ago today. 0k? look at the picture, look
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at the strapline, brexit brinkmanship, may says cannot be indefinite. everything changes are nothing changes. you could swap theresa may's head four boris johnson's and it would be exactly the same headline today. all of the same characters and all pivotal to whether a deal is done. you have barnier, arlene foster, jacob rees—mogg, and swap theresa may for borisjohnson. but on the one hand it is not just borisjohnson. but on the one hand it is notjust swapping may for johnson. there has also been a substantive change, which is how borisjohnson, when substantive change, which is how boris johnson, when he substantive change, which is how borisjohnson, when he has gone to europe, has sort of betrayed how he sees his vision for britain in the future, and that is one that is much more focused on free trade, much more focused on free trade, much more separate and less aligned with europe. that is a real departure, if you look back to what theresa may used to say. yes, you are exceedingly astute, and this is the
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real concern, i think, for the french side tonight. because this in its make up is a very different deal of course to the uk wide customs agreement that theresa may was looking at. there are elements in it but of course what borisjohnson really wa nts but of course what borisjohnson really wants is for the uk to be free to do its own trade deals. he wa nts to free to do its own trade deals. he wants to diverge, he wants to perhaps relax regulations, maybe have a lower tax regimejust perhaps relax regulations, maybe have a lower tax regime just off the shores of the european union. different ideas on aid. exactly, and that alarms the french side profoundly. what i am hearing is that emmanuel macron is sick and tired of rolling extensions and if it was up to him he would probably say enough already. 0f it was up to him he would probably say enough already. of course he doesn't want to be the one, you know, holding the blame for calling time on these negotiations, but i am told that he is somewhat queasy as well about dealing with parliament, rather than the executive. but the double, triple bind, if you will, that aside from those concerns about an extension, what he doesn't want is to rush towards a deal and then
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trample all over his own interests, sort of having this singapore light across the channel from france. so he is very keen on the detail but the problem as it is so complex that to overlay these french demands on top of that would take time. so i think you will see a scenario where the rush to get things done perhaps overrides some of the finer things the front side might have wanted to include in the deal. we shall see. that will be very much the material for thursday and friday night. stephen kinnock has rushed over to talk to us and are sitting on our westminster studio. we have talked before, labour mp stephen kinnock i should say, we have talked before about your pragmatism. you are one who wants a deal, you have said in the past maybe you could have supported a theresa may style deal with things added on. how does this deal as you see it compare with that deal as you see it compare with that deal that you might have been able to back? well, the problem is we have seen absolutely no detail at
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all. we have made it clear we need assurances and safeguards on workers' rights, environmental standards, protections, alignment on those key regulations. also participation in eu agencies. we need to see that as part the of package on the future relationship, because we are certainly not going to allow borisjohnson because we are certainly not going to allow boris johnson to have a singapore on terms of style brexit. and that is something i certainly could not support. so i am open to supporting a deal. i think the united kingdom should leave the european union with a deal that protects jobs european union with a deal that protectsjobs and european union with a deal that protects jobs and livelihoods, european union with a deal that protectsjobs and livelihoods, but until we have seen the detail, we really are shooting in the dark here. yes, let me ask you where you would stand on an extension this weekend. let's presuppose there is an agreement in principle but we don't yet have the legal text. the benn act is supposed to kick in on
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saturday night. legally the prime minister is required to request the three month extension or something like that. would you be prepared to give him more time to get the detail, or would you rather have an extension at that point? it looks highly likely that even if there is a deal for us to vote on on saturday, it is impossible to see how you could get all of the bill through its remaining stages. it is impossible to see how you would get that through. there would be amendments, lots of disbelief as to whether we could go before the 315t of october anyway. they might say a technical extension, just maybe another month or so through to the ist of december. and we can get this done. so i think there needs to be an extension but it doesn't necessarily need to be till the 315t of january. necessarily need to be till the 315t ofjanuary. the necessarily need to be till the 315t of january. the brexiteers would say to you you passed the benn act in one day so if you do that you could
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pass the second and third reading on a deal. well, the benn act was a very simple, straightforward couple of sides of a4. their withdrawal agreement bill will be hundreds of pages of legislation, and also we of course need to see the changes to the framework for the future relationship, which i talked about that will be changes we need to see and we will be seeing them for the first time. it is going to require some scrutiny and it needs to go to the european parliament for final ratification, sol the european parliament for final ratification, so i think a short period of time is going to be required, in terms of an extension anyway. stephen kinnock from whence minster, thank you forjoining us with so much to the influx tonight. —— from westminster. here in the united states, 0hio stages the fourth democratic presidential debate. they state that went republican in 2016. not since has —— sincejfk republican in 2016. not since has —— since jfk has a republican in 2016. not since has —— sincejfk has a president taken the
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white house without winning 0hio. it is purple and a crucial battle ground. 12 candidates, here are some of the funding —— the faces to keep an eye on. joe biden who has been slipping in the polls behind massachusetts senator elizabeth warren. bernie sanders is back after suffering a heart attack if you weeks ago on the campaign trail. will he face questions about his fitness? i imagine he will. tell c gebhard, who didn't qualify for the debate in september and the billionaire, thomas taher, who is making his debut this evening as well. very big on impeachment and i'm sure that will feature prominently this evening, but without some risk to joe prominently this evening, but without some risk tojoe biden. this morning ahead of the debate, his son, hunter, made his first public comments about that very lucrative job he took in 2016 with a ukrainian gas company. did i make a mistake based upon some unethical laps? absolutely not. what i regret is not
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taking into account that there would bea taking into account that there would be a rudy giuliani and a president of the united states that would be listening to this ridiculous conspiracy idea. we will talk more about hunter biden and the applications that has for the debate tonight but first, live two 0hio applications that has for the debate tonight but first, live two ohio and oui’ tonight but first, live two ohio and our colleague anthony serco who is at the debate for us. please sum up the kind of drama you are expecting on stage tonight. right now we have two real frontrunners in this race and ten other people who want to stop this from becoming a two person race between elizabeth warren and joe biden. there are four people on the stage, people like amy klobuchar and beto o'rourke and hooley and castro and tell together who haven't even qualified for the november debate so they might be desperate to try to make some headway adhere. but
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with such a big debate and with impeachment becoming such a dominant issue among the american politics right now, it is going to be a real challenge for them to try and set themselves apart. the top two are going to be happy to try to lock the status quo in place. we will have to leave it there, i know you will be watching all of the action tonight. that impeachment enquiry will play permanently, and here in washington to discuss this, and the democratic investigations, which appear to be widening hour by hour. yesterday we heard ten hours of testimony, sorry the house committee heard ten hours of testimony from a woman who was formerly mr trump has met most senior adviser on russia, fiona hill. according to leaks of that evidence, hill testified there was a rogue operation with a rogue operation within ukraine, led by their ambassador to the eu, gordon's online, rudy giuliani in the middle, and mick mulvaney, chief of staff.
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hill testified john bolton who was sacked as national security adviser told her to notify the chief lawyer. iam not told her to notify the chief lawyer. i am not part of whatever drug deal they are cooking up, bolton told hill. giuliani is a hand grenade who is going to blow everybody up. dramatic words. against that backdrop, where do the democratic candidates take tonight's debate? former vice presidentjoe biden and his son hunter are deeply connected to this ukraine story. with us to discuss is democratic strategist stacey kerr. thank you forjoining us. stacey kerr. thank you forjoining us. i want to go back to hunter biden. he has been silent since these attacks from president trump began. why choose now, 12 hours roughly before his father is due to ta ke roughly before his father is due to take the stage to speak? isn't that going to put the spotlight on the worst way possible forjoe biden?m is hard to take the spotlight away
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from this administration and all the talk of impeachment as we have been talking about, but hunter biden did come out. i think the biden campaign made the decision he was going to speak in his own words, and he said straightforward that he may have had a lapse injudgment, but that this was nothing unethical, and the biden campaign has really decided this is not an issue that's going to go away but they pretty quickly would like to have this conversation with donald trump. joe biden birsa donald trump, and have a conversation about what the president and what his children are doing in this administration. and i guess try to deflect questions about biden ‘s roller, because he is investigating the prosecutor in ukraine. what about the other candidates, warren, sanders, sound as saying recently what separates him from elizabeth warren, he said she is a capitalist. iagree, we warren, he said she is a capitalist. i agree, we are getting very close toa i agree, we are getting very close to a two—person debate here. i think senator sanders has been severely hampered by the heart issue he had and really his campaign was not truthful about it when it first came
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out. so i think he is going to make some efforts to stay in the top but we really do have a two—person race with vice president biden and senator warren. and it will be interesting to see how senator sanders positions himself, given his re ce nt sanders positions himself, given his recent troubles. the other candidates have a decision to make tonight, don't they, they are after the limelight, they need the dollars to stay in the race and the only way it seems to me they are going to be able to do that is to go after the front runnerjoe biden, and there is a risk that, you know, they go after one of their own to try and do that. you are exactly right, christian. i think there is a big risk. democratic primary voters have already said they are not comfortable with democrats attacking one another, so you may get some short—term gain to sort of breakthrough and a very crowded new cycle but there may be some ramifications for attacking the
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front runners. i think there is a lot at stake, not just for the front runners but for these second and third tier candidates, as you say. one thing that will be very interesting to watch, christian, is to see do these candidates start to align themselves with either of the front runners? we see in biden and warren two very different views of the democratic party, in the way they want to take it in the country into the future, and it will be very interesting to watch if any of those candidates decide they are going to start to sort of line up behind either of those front runners. and all of this against an impeachment backdrop. stacey kerr, democratic strategist, thank you forjoining us. strategist, thank you forjoining us. russia has said it will not allow clashes between turkish and syrian forces. the defence minister in moscow says its forces which have been deployed in syria since 2015 are now patrolling along the line of contact between syrian and turkish forces, and it seems that under previous agreements they are only going to allow turkey to advance five to ten kilometres into syria, far less than the 30 kilometre safe
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zone that ankara has been proposing. here in washington, mr trump says things have gone too far. last night, he used an executive order to put sanctions on turkish officials. he has also announced his vice president mike pence will be heading to turkey as soon as possible. joining me now, max hoffman, associate director for national security and international policy at the centre for american progress. i was listening to senator king this morning, an independent, basically saying trump's america first policy has become america alone. this isolationism. is that what we are seeing or is it something much more serious than just that? well, i think that president trump's chaotic and totally uncoordinated withdrawal decision more than a week ago was the result of really his sort of impulsive nature, as well as feeding
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off his long term kind of ideological view that the us is overextended and should really wash its hands of the u —— of the middle east. many americans may show that general impulse but even if you wanted to get the us out of syria or draw down its there, there was a smart and coordinated way to do that. what president trump did was the exact opposite, he pulled out american troops which acted as a deterrent to turkey who wanted to invade these areas and he really green lit president erdogan's invasion of north—eastern syria. the result has been predictable as ever but he warned president trump, it has caused violent and further humanitarian displacement and it has set off really a madcap race for the various major powers to try and occu py various major powers to try and occupy the security vacuum that has ensued. so what we have now, turkey or russia or the syrian regime all sending small detachments willy—nilly in north—east syria to try and stake out sort of effective control. it is hugely risky, because these are small detachments, there
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isa these are small detachments, there is a tremendous fog of war and the risk of inadvertent escalation is very high. you have the trump administration talking sanctions, is there anything at this point donald trump could do to make the situation better? i'm not sure, he has really folded the american hand in north—east syria and it is hard to do after the fact. president erdogan has gone so far out on a political limb with this invasion. even if trump levied draconian sanctions and made all sorts of threats, it is politically almost impossible for a nerd again to be seen to back down. —— for president erdogan. it would cost him tremendously at home to back down. that is why he really had to avoid letting it get to this point. that said, i think that there may be some slim chance of salvaging some of the counter in the river
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valley, the area that was the remaining area of hotbed insurgent activity. perhaps the us could now hold the line there and try to use the remaining leveraged to secure a better deal for the mainly kurdish sdf. but really there's little reason for the f d f to trust the united states. trump hasjust thrown them under the bus, united states. trump hasjust thrown them underthe bus, left united states. trump hasjust thrown them under the bus, left them at asad's hands. so the fact is while assad is moving in now to help the kurds oppose this turkish invasion, once the turkish threat recedes, he will start rounding up kurdish leaders and throwing them in prison as he has done all other opposition groups, so really long term it is a hugely difficult and tremendously sad situation. max hoffman in washington, thank you very much for being with us. interesting to hear your thoughts, just a couple of lines of that story today, the french prime minister saying tonight that the re—emergence of islamic
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state is inevitable in their view. of course they are looking at those pictures of is fighters escaping from some of the kurdish —controlled prisons and un security council meeting tomorrow to discuss all this. it will be interesting to see how that plays out actually, because don't forget as we said in the introduction, russia now saying they don't want the syrian side or the turkish side coming to blows. they are certainly not in favour of the turkish advance or do we get a scenario tomorrow where in fact the key players in the security council are all on the same side? it'll be interesting to see. certainly what you are hearing in washington is the feeling this is the worst foreign—policy week in america since the iraqi invasion. this will be discussed for years and years, in terms of america's role in the middle east. it is certainly one to watch. beyond 100 days from the bbc. coming upfor watch. beyond 100 days from the bbc. coming up for viewers on the bbc news channel and bbc world news, we will be looking at tensions in nato
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is totally continuous military action in syria and its other members disagree. good evening. that leaves today for many we had a welcome respite from the rain, which has been relentless from mid september onwards really. and we've seen in some places 23 consecutive days of rain. as i say, a welcome relief, there we have had considerable flooding in places, flooded fields in gloucestershire but with some sunshine to at least enjoy through the dayjust gone, and a contrast in conwy. some sunshine. that is what many parts had bar if few showers but already looming large, the weather front to bring more rain through the evening and overnight. strengthening winds, increasing rain. not too chilly for
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most parts of the uk but quite a 5°99y most parts of the uk but quite a soggy one to end the night. clearly there will be concerns for spray and standing water on the fast of it, just because it has become so wet from the ground so saturated, passa bly from the ground so saturated, passably localised flooding. rather miserable drive through the rush. it clears quite quickly, northern ireland and other western and central areas enjoying some sunshine, light winds, temperatures mid—teens, so it will feel quite pleasa nt mid—teens, so it will feel quite pleasant but the rain will be slow to clear from the north—east and we could see another bump or two of this weather front in the south just bringing rain back into southern and eastern parts of england. that will bea eastern parts of england. that will be a concern. still around through wednesday evening and overnight, by which stage we have more showers gathering in the west. but between that, quite chilly weather, a touch of frost in the scottish glens on thursday morning. but there is day dawns and we have low pressure to the rest of us, approaching the attlee act isobars, meaning the winds will increase again and this time it it will be bands of showers or longer spells of rain thrown in
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on that brisk south easterly wind. —— south—westerly wind. eastern areas will see fewer showers, when they come along they could be torrential just about anywhere with hailand torrential just about anywhere with hail and thunder and it looks like we will see a plethora of showers for western and southern areas through the course of thursday, so feeling cooler, just because we have more cloud, more wind, no showers around. they will be with us into the weekend as well, and quite chilly at night with those nights getting longer, but at least some sunshine between the showers as well. so it is as i say looking a really messy picture as we going to the weekend, sunny spells and showers, as ever there's more on the website.
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this is beyond 100 days in washington in christian freight to frazier is an london. 0n the brink of reaching a brexit deal. russia claims it will not allow clashes between turkish and syrian forces as tu rkey‘s between turkish and syrian forces as turkey's military offensive in northern syria continues. coming up in the next half—hour of the british family being detained after allegedly accidentally crossing the us borderfrom allegedly accidentally crossing the us border from canada, allegedly accidentally crossing the us borderfrom canada, we will have the latest. plus i1 good samaritan used an ingenious tactic to reunite this man with his wallet. —— plus
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one good samaritan. british and eu negotiators are said to be very close tonight to delivering a brexit deal at of thursday price crimes european council summit. the issues are complex but time pressures are focusing lines on both sides. there is legislation here in the uk known as the ban act requiring the minister to have a deal to present to ministries by saturday and if not he would be forced to request a further extinction. the key to getting the agreement through is the dup. arlene foster went to see the prime minister in the next in the next. there has been huge amount of speculation since last thursday and some can't see the mark any more and
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i think what is important is that if we stick with our principles and we wa nt to we stick with our principles and we want to get a deal but it has to be a deal that respects the integrity of the united kingdom including the northern island included. is your party willing to concede a customs border during the irish sea? we must remain within the united kingdom customs union and... it is not that we are trying to be negative around any of this it is a principle we have and a principal that has always been there and a principle that will forever be there. we have to have integrity throughout the united kingdom. cannot over emphasise how important that meeting as because of scores “— important that meeting as because of scores —— of course your sceptics will be watching closely the dup. we will be watching closely the dup. we will get more reaction this evening as mps arrive to speak to us. tu rkey‘s
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as mps arrive to speak to us. turkey's incursion into syria opened up turkey's incursion into syria opened up severalfault lines turkey's incursion into syria opened up several fault lines that extend beyond the reach and not the least of the impact of nato of one of its members taking military action that there is so fervently disagree with. that secretary—general said that turkey wasn't vital to the alliance's fight against islamic state and that it was crucially important to preserve any gains made in that fight. the government accused nato of not providing enough support and that it expected the alliance to show strong allegiance against threats to its security and what might happen if it responds to the turkish offensive. the attack of one member country should be in it dammit considered an attack on all but not helping matters is the mixed m essa 9 es but not helping matters is the mixed messages coming from the trumpet administration. they did not help us in the second world war, they did not help us with an arm be as
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example. the united states of america did not get a green light to turkey to invade syria. he said i wa nt to turkey to invade syria. he said i want to go in but he has been telling me for a two and a half yea rs. telling me for a two and a half years. we have concerns with civilian populations. we have spent a tremendous amount of money on helping the kurds. he is concerned about instability of the region. quite revealing and he is a former policy planning and nato and it is good to have you with us. if turkey continues to move away from nato and trades russia's or that how does that affect the standing and strategic positioning and nato? their standing has been long affected since no one took this trajectory which is to move increasingly out of her bed and creasing me closer to russia. ——
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president erdogan took this trajectory. nato is not facing just one division which is the nato alliance versus turkey, it is facing two divisions which is also the europe versus us position which has been portrayed as highly ambiguous. nato is in the perfect storm of having to major allies and two biggest armies inside nato who are at odds with each other and at odds with the alliance. it is a point that the foreign affairs committee was making here, saying how is it that there was so little consultation and how have we got to a position whereby it russia is allying to both parties, to syria and turkey. and wins come what may. absolutely this is the price of our extremely weak hand on the syria war since the very beginning. this is
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mostly due to a us hesitation to be engaged in the war and this started before donald trump under president 0bama andi before donald trump under president 0bama and i think the europe allies can only watch and wait and we see the withdrawal of us special forces and the french special forces also on the ground has to also withdraw because they cannot operate without the cooperation of us counterparts. nato is in the middle of a major political dividing line and at the same time can just sit and watch. sit and watch and what needs to be done to make the situation better or is it too late for that now?|j done to make the situation better or is it too late for that now? i think it is too late, we are indeed damage limitation mode and this not going to be an nato, it will be the european union and the leaders of
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the european union meeting and a couple of days and one big conversation will be how will he manage this disaster which is first a humanitarian disaster, a social political one and third a security one because there may be jihadists who are escaping camps and returning to europe so it may be about minimising the risk and damage. thank you for being with us this evening to talk about the major issues, thank you. let's return to the brexit negotiations and fast—moving events tonight and we can bring in katie who is the political adviser at the spectator. and i wasjust political adviser at the spectator. and i was just saying, you political adviser at the spectator. and i wasjust saying, you cannot really overemphasize how important that is. i think the dup support is critical here and first of all because without the dup penumbras
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are very tricky and you need a substantial number of labour and peace and secondly because the dup is against what is proposed it is damaging to boris johnson is against what is proposed it is damaging to borisjohnson and so, i think it will also make brexiteer mps who are on the edge and easy if the dup will not give the support. there is a danger we suddenly flipped back to where we were in 2017 where theresa may came out with the deal and the dup were not really and by all accounts borisjohnson has conceded more today and maybe there will be more customs checks and the irish see. the question is when is the customs border a custom border and not a regulatory board and it is these types of issues that hinge around whether the dup can support this and i think that's number ten is right be seen better
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at communicating with the dup and keeping them in the loop. so let's have a chance that dup almost being unnerved about what is being presented but i think there is still a big question here which is f arlene foster and the dup and psa to parsejohnson arlene foster and the dup and psa to parse johnson tonight they arlene foster and the dup and psa to parsejohnson tonight they cannot back what he is suggesting, what does he do then? does he try to place a deal through although he does not have those boats or does he withdraw and say we need more time because there is pressure on boris johnson to try to get something he can present on saturday and if he can present on saturday and if he can pass a deal on saturday it seems ambitious but if he could, it gets in and out of a lot of trouble when it comes to the hillary been legislation, trying to force them to seek an extension. you think there will be a saturday session?“ seek an extension. you think there will be a saturday session? if there is an deal that could be agreed between the two sides, if it breaks down and at times this test switch very quickly, at the moment it is
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sounding positively towards a deal but if that does not work out i think there will be an inclination in government not to have a saturday setting unless they had something to present because it bad mapping to present because it bad mapping to present all they have really is danger and we have a group of opposition mps moving towards a second referendum so i think there will be a sense and there is no point convening on the weekend. but if things are going how they are going, there will be an important saturday. thank you very much and we are all looking at the ban act and the implications on whether there is a deal or not by saturday so let's bring in hilary ben, chair of the brexit select committee and must the conservative wit but voted against the government in favour of ben act so thank you for being with us. we could being a scenario by saturday where we have an agreement in principle but because of the complexity the deal trying to get a
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legal text is difficult and therefore it they might pencil and a second summit somewhere towards the end of october so what happens to ben act then? what the act says is ifa ben act then? what the act says is if a deal has not been agreed with the european union and that agreement has been brought to the house together with a text and has been approved by the house of commons, than the prime minister has to write a letter by the end of saturday requesting more time. entries we do not know whether the negotiations today will produce a result is that the european council is going to be looking at a progress report saying we have come a long way but we have not quite sorted it out and we did not have a legal text and a legal text will suddenly appear but what about a political declaration because he had not discussed that at all and that is fundamentally important to our future economic relationship so a number of things are possible but the act is very clear and unless
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parliament approves an agreement with the european union and that requires a text, then the prime minister has to write that letter and he could well be that we are looking at an extension anyway because they european council says we need reasonable progress and my time is required and then people say it is not going to be possible to get the legal text there was to check it and the linguists and then for it to be approved by parliament and then for withdrawal legislation to bea and then for withdrawal legislation to be a thrill and then ratification and in the european parliament, we could be looking at moving into november anyway. frankly until we know the outcome of the talks, we are all speculating as are you.|j are all speculating as are you.” know you signed up to the bell because you are against no deal but you are one of the pregnant test and you are one of the pregnant test and you want a deal if it can be done. it is the pressure of the october 31 deadline because we should remind ourselves that borisjohnson will not request that extension that has by the eu to this point and if you
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place through an extension on saturday that might take the pressure off. i did notjust sign up and vote for the act, i seconded it in the house and was very much coming that. we keep getting told that everything we do takes the pressure off and we are told by passing the act and the first place will take the pressure off the eu and it does not seem to have done so. pressure is there because everyone knows to leave without a deal is highly dangerous, both for the united kingdom and the eu. pressure is there because people therefore want a deal and the time and help encouraging that stop you cannot go on forever and that is absolutely right but unless you put absolutely right but unless you put a date and then you are effectively allowing an almost never—ending process and i do not think the country can stand that's. i long believe that the best thing to do, having voted to remain in the eu and having voted to remain in the eu and having wanted to do so, but excepting the results, is to leave them a blow and create a new
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relationship with the eu and you cannot do that unless he read what the deal and i think the pressures are not related to time, they are related to the fact of living in the best possible way. can you vote for a deal in principle even if some of the details have not yet been worked out? i think you can vote for a deal but i am not sure what extent the proposal takes us very far because the treatise in order to secure this it has to be agreed by both the eu and parliament and at the uk proudman agrees reset something and we are exactly the same position we have been since the brady and manning, uk proudman can say what they want but that is not sufficient relevance if it is not passed by the eu so it is really very important to me as hilary has said and i think there is greater pressure on parliament now because if he turned
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over yet another agreement made between the united kingdom and 27 other states, what on earth are we ever going to agree to and that opens the door to no deal and i did not want to see that. you must be aware how this could luck politically next week cell imagine a scenario where borisjohnson does not request the extension, they taken to court and there you have the prime minister trying to negotiate a deal while fighting a court battle that parliament has pushed him into, that is not going to look politically good for you.” don't think it would look particularly good for the prime minister because he has a clear legal obligation upon him that there is not an agreement reached and approved by parliament by saturday evening. and if he has already said through his lawyer in the session that the prime minister will uphold the law and apply it and therefore in the circumstances i would expect them to write the letter on saturday andi them to write the letter on saturday and i cannot see how we could avoid what is a clear legal obligation but if there is a deal, there are a
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large number of mps he would say look, we do not like this and we are focusing a great deal where understandable reasons on the northern island backstop and you must have an insurance policy to keep that border open but the thing that really matters is what does that really matters is what does that agreement say about the future economic relationship and from their boys economic relationship and from their bostohnson economic relationship and from their boys johnson wants a economic relationship and from their bostohnson wants a canada style free—trade agreement which in my view is even more than what theresa may was proposing and i will not support a canada style free—trade agreement because it will create friction and difficulty and will be economically damaging. but i am prepared to compromise and the compromise i would be prepared to make is the one proposed by my collea g u es make is the one proposed by my colleagues about a year ago and they said to theresa may we do not like your deal but we are prepared to allow it to go through provided we put it to the british people and a confirmatory referendum which was a
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choice between if boys confirmatory referendum which was a choice between if bostohnson is able to achieve a deal and remain would allow the british people to decide is not the kind of leaving that we voted for or have the british people change their mind, i do not know whether they have where they happen and nor has the government or house of commons and the people who do know is the british people themselves and i think we should ask them. very quickly, you must be aware of the sounds we are getting from france at about the rolling extensions and are queasy about dealing with prominent rather than the executive and we could get all the detail done and text and put it to parliament and then you reject it and then they say what is the point of this? and they say this is it, either you accept this or there is no extension.” think that is a possibility, i mean all available options are potentially going to come to pass and there must be more one of them but i quite agree that there reaches a point where people have had enough
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and you see i do not actually agree with him on the referendum because suppose the referendum, i am with him on the referendum because suppose the referendum, lam not sure you can complain it to two questions, borisjohnson's there sure you can complain it to two questions, boris johnson's there and remain in some people want to say what we want a new deal option but what we want a new deal option but what happens if people decide to remain by 51—49 and we have to go through it all over again. i'm not sure there is closure with that which is why i remain absolutely consistent, there is one way in ensuring the future of the eu and uk and that is silly but they deal and almost everything else is worse and it raises the possibility of the argument carrying on almost forever sol argument carrying on almost forever so i think of 28 states can agree and safeguard their interest in a deal, i think parliament should think really hard before rejecting that. gentlemen thank you for joining us both tonight from westminster. authors of the benn act act. this is beyond 100 days and
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still to come how this londoner was reunited with his wallet thanks to one man past ‘s genius thinking. —— things to one man's genius thinking. regulators have warned that the nhs in england is facing increasing demand, staff shortages and patients with learning disabilities stuck in unsuitable hospitals. care quality commission says type of accident and emergency departments are not good enough. here is the report. this is a house that adele green hopes one day would be home to her 21—year—old son eddie but a shortage of support means he is still in a specialist mental health hospital nearly 200 miles from home. he has learning disabilities and other complex problems. when he had a crisis he ended up in a series of secure hospitals. today's report warns of
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deteriorating quality, lack of skilled staff in such places and familiar concerns for his family. we knew at the time when he was locked away in a seclusion room for about four months and fed through a hatch. not given the medication because it was not the right staff there to get that. i would not treat an animal like that. and they have trapped my child like that. in 2018 care quality commission expect there is to visit hospitals rated 1% as inadequate and this year 10% is family. the ctc warrants this reflects pressures across the health ca re system. reflects pressures across the health care system. growing demand and staff shortages mean they are picking up the pieces when people cannot get help in community and they are struggling, about half continue to be serrated denigrated not good enough. the government says
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it is making record investments in the nhs and health services are being transformed but those on the sharp end of the health care system there seems to be no sign of the pressure is easing. allison holt, bbc news. now to european football and the governing body uefa says it is opening an investigation into racist chanting england players during their match on bulgaria on monday. the match had to be stopped twice because home fans were making monkey noises and nazi salutes and britain's prime minister has demanded authorities take strong action. here is joe demanded authorities take strong action. here isjoe wilson. i thought he was there. he went to make an that the football
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association find the team £10,000 for racist chanting and compared to a spoof kit fine of £50,000. uefa find sylvia that hit danish player with £80,000 fine for wearing sponsored underwear and a match. here isjoe wilson. you could say this game began with marcus rashford's blistering finish with a goal. it ended before that, when they heard the monkey chants and racial abuse. i heard it before i got to the other side of the page in the warm up. we spoke about it coming off the pitch. after the warm—up. and obviously it was
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happening in the game but like i said, it is difficult to categorise double country for perhaps a minority in the second half was a lot better so perhaps a victory all around. there were intense discussions between england players, management and officials in the first half and there was an announcement made in the crowd that the referee might suspend again if the referee might suspend again if the abuse continued and it was greeted by boos. were nazi salutes in the crowd. when they left the pitch at half time they discussed whether they should carry on with the match and decided to play on, and even's captain told me that they believe that was the right decision. everyone wanted to carry on and talking on the page which i am extremely proud of, it is not easy to play and circumstances like that. beat 6—0 victory in that manner in which we played, i'm proud of fresh air. england cosmic manager thought they had handled the situation in they had handled the situation in the best way. i am proud of the
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players and the staff and i do not think, of course we could be criticised for not going far enough but i think we have made a huge statement and frankly we were in an impossible situation to get it right to the satisfaction of everyone. bulgaria cosmic ‘s managers as a different perspective.” bulgaria cosmic ‘s managers as a different perspective. i was concentrated on the game and did not actually hear anything but i talked to the english press offices and i told them that if this is proven to be true, then we will have to be ashamed and apologise for it. but once again, firstly it has to be proven to be true. one answer to the abuse was the score line. manager garrett southgate openly acknowledge that english football has its own issues to deal with but racism was displayed in its darkest and most blatant form here and bulgaria. england's players expose that by the reaction cannot stop here. joe
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wilson, bbc news, sofia. let's change the move down mcnitt a little, picture this heading home from work and to discover that once he walked through the front door that your wallet is missing. a nightmare and in big—city chances of getting it back are pretty slim. that happen to one man, called ten cameron after that happen to one man, called ten ca meron after u nsuccessfully retracing his steps he later it logged onto his banking and noticed that four separate transactions had taken place on his account. but not the £200 which are all that you were deposits to the value of a penny each and you can see there that on the payment reference, which is limited to 18 characters the message, hi, i found limited to 18 characters the message, hi, ifound yourwallet limited to 18 characters the message, hi, ifound your wallet on the road and the next one was a man's number and then text or call. genius, would you believe it, he was reunited with his wallet after
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getting in touch with the good cemetery samaritan, and it is great. there are good people out there. good story to end on. think you're watching. —— the good samaritan. good evening and a lease for many we had a welcome rest bite from the rain. it has been mid—september onwards and some places 23 is to make consecutive days of rain but we have obviously considerable flooding in places such as in gloucestershire but with some sunshine to at least enjoy doing the day, and you can see there some sunshine and that is what many parts had, the next atlantic low pressure weather system to bring more rain for the evening and overnight. strengthening lands and increasing cloud, the rain at least will arrest the following temperatures and not
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too chilly for most parts of the uk but quite a soggy one to end the night and clearly it will be concerns of the flooding as their have been flood warnings and forced. a miserable drive through the rash but it clears quickly and northern ireland and other western and central areas enjoyed sunshine, light temperatures and the rain will be slowed in the northeast and we could see another bump or two on this letter finds in the south and just bringing back into southern and eastern parts of england and that will be of concern and that is going through wednesday and overnight and at that stage we have more showers gathering in the west but between that quite chilly weather actually and have a touch of frost in the scottish glens thursday morning. thursday dons and with low pressure centre in the last, approaching tightly packed isoba rs centre in the last, approaching tightly packed isobars and winds will increase again and this time we will increase again and this time we will see bands of showers or longer
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cells of rain thrown in on that risk to make brisk south—westerly winds although southeastern areas will see fewer showers when they come along, they could be torrential with just about anywhere with hail and thunder. a plethora showers during the course of thursday and cooler because at the, wind and rain and showers around. it will be quite chilly at night with nights getting longer as well but at least they will be sunshine between the showers as well. so it is a really messy picture going into the weekend with sunny shells, spells —— sunny spells and showers.
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this is bbc news. i'm clive myrie. the headlines at 8pm. the president of the bulgarian football union resigns, after last night's match with england was marred by racism. u efa uefa calls on football fans to wage war on the recess. —— the racists. uefa, who i've spoken to during and after the game, will be carrying out a thorough investiation. as reports suggest the uk is closing in on a new deal after giving significant ground to the eu over the irish border, the dup meet officials in downing street. i think it is important to say we must remain within the european union customs union. a car thief who drove over and seriously injured a police
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