this is bbc news. i'm clive myrie live at westminster. the headlines at 8pm: a british government source tells the bbc there will not be a brexit deal tonight. talks a brexit deal tonight. continue into the evening. not much to say. a brexit deal tonight. the eu's chief negotiator michel barnier remains tight—lipped as he goes to speak this evening to the 27 eu ambassadors. we'll have the latest on what he might have told them as we get it. following meetings with angela merkel in toulouse, france's president macron says he wants to believe a deal is being finalised so it can be approved at tomorrow's eu summit. translation: we also worked on preparations for the eu council summit

tomorrow and friday. we talked about the budget, european enlargement and of course brexit, on which i believe an agreement is about to be finalised. i'll have all the latest from westminster. away from westminster, president trump describes a meeting with the parents of harry dunn as beautiful and sad. the family say they felt "ambushed" and refused to meet the woman involved in the crash that killed their son. we are still willing to meet her, but it needs to be on uk soil. the americans move out and the russians move in how the us the americans move out and the russians move in — how the us troop withdrawal has changed the syrian conflict. six people are detained by police in bulgaria, following racist chanting at the england football team on monday night in sofia. and william and kate head for pakistan's mountains calling for more action on climate change. scientific immunity is very concerned and very worried about how

much has retreated in the impact it's going to have on the villages, who reliant on these water —— the scientific community is very concerned. good evening. just as michel barnier was arriving for a meeting with eu ambassadors in brussels this evening, reports came from government sources that there will be no brexit deal tonight. throughout the day, all eyes have been on the brussels negotiators trying to secure an agreement in time for an eu summit tomorrow. here in london, there's been intense focus on the comings and goings at westminster, particularly of senior eurosceptic backbenchers and democratic unionist mps. it's thought significant problems remain have to be resolved — particularly over customs on the island of ireland,

and how the northern ireland assembly can been offered a voice on any future arrangements. our political editor laura kuenssberg reports. send for sustenance. whether borisjohnson had ordered the crisps or the oranges, he's been holed up all day in westminster, trying to make the jagged jigsaw pieces fit. the prime minister would need the sign off of europe's other big players, france and germany, who will carry out a similar inspection. does a brexit deal work without disrupting the eu? "i want to believe a deal is being finalised," the french president said. "we will talk about it at the summit tomorrow." before it gets to the leaders, though, any deal has to go through the grinder in brussels. for days, negotiators have been trying to inch towards an agreement. after several years of trying to find solutions to the same puzzle.

in particular, what happens at the irish border after brexit. could it tonight be on? i said last week that i thought there was a pathway to a possible agreement. that is still my view. however, the question is whether the negotiators will be able to bridge the remaining gaps in advance of tomorrow's council. what is important now is that all focus is kept on achieving a deal that delivers with everyone. but the pieces won't fall easily into place. borisjohnson needs his northern irish allies. well, we're continuing the discussions and no doubt we'll say something later on today. the dup has been in and out of downing street all day. they worry about giving too much away. can you tell us how the negotiations are going? it's all going marvellously. they might know more, though, than some of the cabinet. cheerful, but not all of them fully in the loop. you know as much as i do.

clearly there are very intensive discussions under way, but we can't be certain what the outcome will be, but i remain hopeful. but every single thumbs up will count. boris johnson does not have a majority on his own, so brexiteers who saw off theresa may need to back a theoretical deal. because there is just no chance of the opposition coming to the prime minister's rescue. i will ask all labour mps to vote along with the party in opposing any deal which damages rights and protections on our society or drives us into the arms of donald trump. to be sure, whether any kind of deal can be struck can't be done yet. impossible to see past the smoke and mirrors. laura kuenssberg, our political editor there. lots of reports coming

out of brussels. in the last hour, laura tweeted that sources are telling her there would not be until tonight. she also says it simply not clear that means there is no way forwarded orjust a way of a standing talks into tomorrow because they need a little bit more time. i'm joined by our political correspondent nick eardley. it's as if both sides are on com plete it's as if both sides are on complete different pages. you listen to president macron in france. he is saying we can get over the line tomorrow. here, no suggestion a deal is imminent. it feels the mood music is imminent. it feels the mood music is getting more sullen on the site. i think the mood music is confused, to be honest with you, clive. there area to be honest with you, clive. there are a lot of mps desperate for information just not getting it, because of that, they are not committing. you have heard from brexiteers today. they want to believe boris johnson. brexiteers today. they want to believe borisjohnson. they want brexiteers today. they want to believe boris johnson. they want to get this done. they trust him but they have not seen the legal text yet so they are not seeing definitively, yes, we will do it, and the most important layers and

are the dup. in the dup leader arlene foster and their leader here at westminster, nigel dodds. we think they are seeing the prime minister again tonight and this conversation will be crucial. if they get pinewood borisjohnson has negotiated, it seems to me that he would have the numbers to get a deal over the line on saturday, but if he doesn't get that, it's very hard to see how he would get it over the line. it does hang in the balance tonight. he's within touching distance but not there yet. 0k, tonight. he's within touching distance but not there yet. ok, so for the dup, what is the sticking point? quite simply, it is the influence the northern ireland simile has over what is decided on customs between the european union, northern ireland and the uk. they wa nt to northern ireland and the uk. they want to have a bigger say than the european union want to give them and there is a divide to be bridge there. it is not an easy one because

as soon there. it is not an easy one because as soon as there. it is not an easy one because as soon as the european union seeks some of that control for stormont, they become a lot less likely to sign up, whereas if they move further away from that, the dup become harder to get on board. boris johnson talked at the weekend about a pathway to a deal, and it feels like he's travelled most of the way along that path, but tonight, every step he takes towards the eu cosmic physician, a step back for getting the dup on board. it is a difficult puzzle to solve, and at the moment he is not there. but the d —— dup has appointment don't they? the dup are simile saying they want their voice heard. exactly. and you can expect them to stick very firmly to that line, but we don't know is how far europe is prepared to go on

this. there was an idea europe had moved towards that idea of giving stormont tomorrow on this but perhaps not as far as the dup wanted. i think there will be conversations about whether there is some movement on either side to try and get that there, but you've got to remember the clue is in the name with the dup. their unionists. if they think there is something to undermine the uk, they are perfectly clear they just won't sign up. undermine the uk, they are perfectly clear theyjust won't sign up. that is why they are the crucial player tonight and i suspect borisjohnson is putting all his political capital into trying to win them over. may well be tomorrow before we know, but asi well be tomorrow before we know, but as i say, it's on a knife edge and it's very close. very close indeed. if there is no deal, by tomorrow, or by close of play tomorrow, 5pm tomorrow afternoon, or whenever, by close of play tomorrow, 5pm tomorrow afternoon, orwhenever, is a saturday off? not necessarily. there were some who think it could go ahead and there is a lot of talk about this idea of having almost indicative vote on the principles

that borisjohnson... indicative vote on the principles that boris johnson. .. say indicative vote on the principles that borisjohnson... say the european council agreed with the ideas on the table but cannot quite cross the tees and dot the eyes. that idea has been floated. got to say, i think that's very hard to see borisjohnson winning it, because senior brexiteers in very clear that they are not going to give the thumbs—up definitively until they have seen a legal text likewise, i think the dup would be reluctant to say definitively they are a yes u nless say definitively they are a yes unless they see what is on paper. saturday is more likely than not but i don't think it's definitely going to happen, and there are a lot of political correspondence to talk about until saturday. indeed. nick ea rd ley, about until saturday. indeed. nick eardley, our political correspondent here at westminster.

let's get the latest from brussels now and speak to our europe correspondent gavin lee. just talking to nick eardley here, a confused picture. any confusion where you are was yellow —— where you are? limit give you a picture of where we are. this is where michelle barney has been for an hour or so. hisjob tonight barney has been for an hour or so. his job tonight is to brief eu ambassadors from the 27 countries. talks have been going on for 55 hours now for those negotiators, tactical negotiators, on both sides. we are told from some ambassadors just coming out of the meeting a short while ago that most of the issues are wrapped up. on the outstanding issues, there is not actually the custom border, northern ireland, that is sorted. it is... but also, the issue of vat. that is

what they are working on now. michel barnier said nothing. he what they are working on now. michel barniersaid nothing. he came what they are working on now. michel barnier said nothing. he came back out, he said, typically... we can hear it. i think we might hear him say just about, "we hear it. i think we might hear him sayjust about, "we are working". which has become almost a model for michel barnier. where are we now? in a couple of hours' time, there is another briefing for the brexit steering group of the european parliament. maybe there is another look. a tweet from donald tusk tonight. he is due to set the agenda, say where we are. maybe a sense of a deal comes from him. the lights are on. negotiators are still talking. 0k, gavin, so they are still hard at it. it sounds as if they're feeling they could get over they're feeling they could get over the line sometime tomorrow. but they have been here before. they agreed a deal theresa may and it didn't get through that building behind me. there's got to be a lot of wariness

as welcome surely. you and i were here before. we were here last night, talking of at the very same thing, being fairly close according to lea ks. it thing, being fairly close according to leaks. it started to unravel. we know part of that reason was arlene foster was in downing street, leader of the democratic unionist party, brexiteers in the house like yo—yos today try to get the european centre group on site. they're waiting to hear from feedback from london. i spoke to the brexit court in india from the european parliament tonight, just before he spoke an hour ago, tonight, just before he spoke an hourago, and he tonight, just before he spoke an hour ago, and he said this is all going on in london. we have from you much so not here. theresa may did not work three times. if they agree to the deal tomorrow, or the leaders, it will be provisional. they say to boris, you go back, you go back to prove the numbers on super saturday and we will seal the deal then. we will leave it there.

thank you for that. gavin lee there in brussels, where those talks are continuing. well into the nights, it seems. i'm joined by sir charles walker, joint vice—chair of the 1922 committee of backbench mps. it's good to see you. think you for being with us. you had a meeting with the prime minister today. what was his mood? how is he feeling the talks are going in terms of... his mood was considered but upbeat. he feels we are moving towards a deal, but we are not there yet, and he referenced that at least two or three times in his speech. he wants a deal, we are working towards a deal, it looks positive, but we are not there yet. we must get ahead of ourselves. did he give you any indication as to what the main stumbling block was?|j indication as to what the main stumbling block was? i don't think he talked about stumping box. com pletely he talked about stumping box. completely positive? no, he made it clear it was a complex negotiation but we are moving forward and he does not want to leave any part of the united kingdom behind. and, really, that was the thrust of the

speech. does he want to leave any part... obviously there are issues about the backstop in the previous deal negotiated. he is listening to the dup clearly he is listen to the dup clearly. whatever the deal comes through, will you vote for it? i will vote for it. it will get us out of the uk and it will be good for the uk.m the dup are not on board, would you have second thoughts?|j the dup are not on board, would you have second thoughts? i have always voted with a deal with or without the dup. legally, iwant voted with a deal with or without the dup. legally, i want a deal to get of the eu and want to vote for a deal, that same deal that provides some certainty to the marketplace, that allows company to reinvest in the uk. they've got lots of cash on their balance sheets. they are waiting for that deal to invest again and create jobs and implement opportunities. that's something i think all members a polymer should

wa nt think all members a polymer should want to, i suspected this deal will allow that to happen. sure. but you know as i do, there are members of the erg to say the dup are not on board, they cannot continence funding for this. there are a few members of the erg who might have that position, but 256 labour members say they want to deal and repeatedly, three times, have voted against a deal, and i suspect will vote against this deal when it comes before the house of commons regardless of the impact that that vote will have on the job prospects and earning prospects of their constituents. we could see amendments, couldn't we, once this deal is put forward, if there is a deal is put forward, if there is a deal on saturday? we could see it moments that could suggest that there should be a public vote on any deal, and he... which would be a disaster. another six—month of uncertainty. any public don't want another six months of uncertainty for some the majority of people want a deal so they can get on with their lives, so businesses can start

investing money in the economy again, creating job opportunities, and we all move forward for some people have had enough of these parlor games in parliament. they wa nt parlor games in parliament. they want a deal. they expect us to vote for a donal and if we don't pass this deal, we will all be held in a great deal of contempt. is that the only reason, potentially, that you are going to vote for a deal? just to shut this thing down? no, of course not, but i voted for a referendum to leave the eu. i did not vote in that referendum for a deal. i knew a deal would come out of that vote. i voted to leave the eu. the previous pregnant is to's deal legally got us out of the eu, andi deal legally got us out of the eu, and i know this will —— the previous prime minister's deal. the rest, we can deal with later. we've got all these people wanting the porridge served at the exact imager. that is not possible. politicians have got

to copper mice. they have to do that saturday. sir charles, good to see you. you are watching bbc news. with that, it is back to you in the studio. thank you very much, clive. the headlines on bbc news... they will be no brexit deal tonight. in other news. in other news, president trump describes a meeting with the parents of harry dunn as beautiful and sad. how the us troop withdrawal has change the syrian conflict. sport now, and a full round—up from the bbc sport centre. here's gavin. bulgarian police have now arrested six men suspected of racially

abusing england players during monday night's euro qualifier in sofia. nine more fans have been identified and are under police investigation. fare — an anti—discrimination network across europe — says that about 20 stewards joined in with fans who were chanting racist abuse during the 6—0 win over bulgaria. the group had spotters in the crowd who saw the stewards take off their hi—vis vests before the game. fare have called for bulgaria to be expelled from the qualifying campaign. the spanish football authorities are looking to reverse the fixture between barcelona and real madrid later this month. the first el clasico of the season is scheduled to take place at camp nou on october 26th. catalan groups and political parties are preparing a demonstration in barcelona on that day following the sentencing of nine separatist leaders by the spanish supreme court. authorities want the match played in madrid instead, but it's expected that barcelona will reject the request from la liga.

manchester city are taking on the spanish champions atletico madrid in the women's champions league. the former city forward and started on her return to manchester. the two other british sides involved in the last 16 both recorded away wins. wsl champions arsenal beat slavia prague 5—2. and glasgow city beat danish side brondby 2—o. a record attendance for a women's match in the uk could be set after england announced their wembley friendly against germany has sold out. the game on 9 november at the 90,000—seat stadium could beat the previous record of over 80,000 for the 2012 olympic final between united states and japan. the crowd will exceed the current england record for a home match — 16,000 against germany at wembley 15 years ago. we've all been so excited for this wembley game, and to play against

germany, speaking on behalf of the girls, we deserve to go in front of those type of stadiums. we need to put on a performance as well. britain has won its first gold medal at the european track cycling championships in the netherlands. emily nelson took the lead at the start of the final lap of a0 in the iokm and claimed victory in the "scratch race". she held on to victory. all... they we re she held on to victory. all... they were comfortably beaten and will now write against germany for the bronze. two—time paralympic champion jonnie peacock has had to pull out of next months world para athletics championships. he's also the reigning world champion over 100 metres in his class. he's got a knee injury that he says has taken longer to heal than expected.

the british team has a squad of 42 for the championships in dubai that start on the 7th november. ronnie o'sullivan has beaten yuan sijun by four frames to three in the second round of the english open in crawley. the five—time world champion continued his criticism of the venue earlier this week. last year, he described the k2 leisure centre as a "hellhole" and feels little has changed since, saying, "every day in crawley is a day lost in my life". well, i guess you could say, at least another day less than. can think of many things to say on the back of that but i will send it back to you, ben. thank you very much indeed. the parents of a british teenager who was killed in a collision with the wife of an american diplomat have had a meeting with president trump at the white house. they've been describing their surprise — even shock — when the president said the woman

was in a room next door and invited them to meet her. they refused, and they've been telling our correposndent duncan kennedy why. harry dunn's family have been on many kinds ofjourneys in the wake of his death. but this one to washington, dc was the strangest of all. they'd been called to the white house but had no idea they would be meeting the president, or that he would then suggest they meet the woman who drove the car involved in their son's death. it didn't seem right... they told me president trump should not have tried to engineer a meeting of such vulnerable people. he clearly wanted us to have that meeting to try and bring some healing, i think, was how he put it. but, you know, we haven't begun to grieve yet. some have described the whole idea of bringing her into the oval office as a bit of a stunt by the president. all of a sudden, you're sat in front of the president of the united states and you've got your own things where we wanted

to do things our way, and to try and steady yourself and think about what you are going to answer, so it's quite difficult. but lawyers for anne sacoolas said tonight she was disappointed the meeting in the white house did not go ahead. it was her car that hit harry dunn in august after she drove on the wrong side of the road in northamptonshire. on american television today, harry's parents again refused to demonise mrs sacoolas. they say they want justice, not revenge. tonight, donald trump said he was asked by borisjohnson to arrange the meeting of the two families. charlotte and tim say it wasn't easy resisting the presidential offer in the setting of the oval office, but say they have to put the interests of harry's memory first. duncan kennedy, bbc news, new york. president trump spoke to reporters about the meeting at the white house earlier this afternoon.

my my meeting with the family, it was beautiful in a certain way. they did not want to meet with the person in question. we had a very good meeting, they are very nice people. and we met with a full group — it was four people, actually. you know how it's all broken up. the meeting took place right here at about six o'clock last night and it was very sad, to be honest. she lost, they lost their son. i believe it was going down the wrong way, because that happens in europe. you go to europe and the roads are opposite, and it's very tough if you are from the united states. you do make that decision to make a right turn where you are supposed to make a left turn, the roads are opposite, and she said that's what happened. that happens to a lot of people, by the way, but she said that's what happened. she was in the room right out there. we met right here in this area.

i offered to bring the person in question in and they weren't ready for it, but i did offer. a woman from west london has been charged with an islamic state bomb plot targeting st paul's cathedral and a hotel. safiyya amira shaikh, who's 36, appeared in custody at westminster magistrates‘ court after being charged earlier today. the alleged is supporter was arrested last week on the preparation of terrorist acts. she will next appear at the old bailey on november 1st. more than 300 suspected paedophiles have been arrested across 38 countries, in an international operation led by british police against a child sex abuse website. the national crime agency uncovered the site which was operating on the dark web and being run from south korea. the government has dropped a plan to use age verification checks in an effort to prevent children and younger teenagers watching pornography online. the measure would have forced

pornography providers to prove the user was over 18 year olds or potentially face a ban. the government said the policy, which had been due to take effect in april last year, would not be going ahead after repeated delays amid fears that it would not work. it's two years since the children's commissioner warned of evidence that children were becoming desensitised to pornography and that boys considered it to be a realistic depiction of relationships. bulgarian police have arrested six people they suspect were involved in racist abuse against black england football players on monday evening. a further nine men have been identified and are under investigation by police authorities. the bulgarian commissioner for the interior has said bulgaria does "not tolerate such behaviour." the consequences of donald trump's surprise decision to pull american troops out of northern syria are becoming clearer by the day. russian ground forces now occupy positions that had been controlled by the us military just 2a hours before.

the american withdrawal triggered a military assault by turkey on the kurdish forces, which, just weeks ago, had been us allies. this evening, donald trump said the conflict in syria had nothing to do with the united states. our international correspondent, orla guerin, reports from the syrian—turkish border. urban warfare in northern syria. fighters backed by turkey still battling the kurds in the border town of ras al—ain. but one week into turkey's invasion, president erdogan now controls a swathe of territory here and says he won't stop until he completes his plan. translation: operation peace spring will last until we reach a depth of 30—35 kilometres from manbij to the iraqi border. there is no doubt or hesitation about this.

and in the strategic town of manbij, an image that shows the new order — russian power on the move, flying the flag for president putin. his forces had a clear run here, filling the vacuum left by us troops. the russians, who back president assad, are patrolling between the syrians and the turks, keeping them apart. they are the power brokers now. president erdogan is letting the guns do the talking, despite us sanctions. the us vice president and secretary of defence are rushing here to meet him tomorrow for a heart to heart. but america's voice may be drowned out. well, turkish forces are continuing to pound targets across the border in syria — and the battlefield there has changed rapidly. american forces have surrendered much of their leverage.

the russians have increased theirs. for president assad, it's a win, and for those opposing him in syria's long war, it's a bitter pill to swallow. and here's another one. us forces pulling out of a base in northern syria today. the kurds see this as a massive betrayal. for donald trump, they already sound like history. our soldiers are not in harm's away, as they shouldn't be, as two countries fight over land that has nothing to do with us. and the kurds are much safer right now but the kurds know how to fight, and as i said, they're not angels, they're not angels. those dismissed so casually were burying more dead today. here, two fighters and a local journalist. but there are reports that around 70 civilians have been killed since the invasion began. turkey's so—called safe zone is becoming a burial ground.

orla guerin, bbc news, on the turkey—syria border. now it's time for a look at the weather. good evening. despite some sunshine and western areas in the east of scotland, the rain was slow to clear, and the rain picked up again in the south and east of the afternoon. it's slowly clearing through this evening. at low pressure to the west of us, that's going to be the driving force of our weather for the next three or four days, to miss a lot of showers will be heading our way. relatively speaking, it's fairly quiet as that rain clears overnight. we will see understory size, mist and fog and actually touch of fog in the glens of scotland. a chillier start on wednesday morning in the mist and fly will clearly be a hazard to the rush hour but then the showers become the main story. the wind will be strengthening, pushing those showers through fairly briskly, but they can well be torrential with hail and thunder, cuisine ofan torrential with hail and thunder, cuisine of an immense of rain in a short space of time. and with the ground saturated, that can further

spray, standing water, and localised flooding. and that showers continues through friday and the weekend, with some likely downpours around. hello, this is bbc news. the headlines... a british government source tells the bbc there will be no brexit deal tonight as talks continue in brussels into the evening. the eu's chief negotiator leaves a meeting with the 27 eu ambassadors saying only that we are working. president trump describes a meeting with the pa rents of trump describes a meeting with the parents of harry dunn as beautiful and sad. the families refused to meet the woman involved in a crash that killed their son. we are still willing to meet her but it needs to be on uk soil. and william and kate head for pakistan's mountains,

calling for more action on climate change. and we're going straight back to westminster and clive myrie to bring us up—to—date on the latest manoeverings over brexit. just as michel barnier was arriving for a meeting with eu ambassadors in brussels this evening, reports came from government sources here that there will be no brexit deal tonight. throughout the day all eyes have been on the brussels negotiators trying to secure an agreement in time for an eu summit tomorrow. in london, there has been intense focus on the comings and goings at westminster, particularly of senior eurosceptic backbenchers and dup mps. significant problems remain and have to be resolved, particularly over customs on the island of ireland and how the northern ireland assembly can be offered a voice on any future arrangement. this was a view of the

irish prime minister restating that ireland wants to see from a brexit deal when he spoke in dublin earlier today. if it is to work for the people of ireland it means avoiding a hard border and that always has been the primary objective. ensuring the all—ireland economy can continue to develop and the north—south cooperation as envisaged by the good friday agreement resumes. and just as important to protect the single market, its integrity and our place in it. i said last week that i thought there is a pathway to a possible agreement and that is still my view. but the question is whether the negotiators will be able to bridge the remaining gaps in advance of tomorrow's council. what is important is all focus is kept on achieving a deal that works for everyone. the taoiseach earlier today. and here's a sample of some of the views of opposition mps in brussels this afternoon on a brexit deal.

it is not at all clear that what will emerge as any deal will have any will emerge as any deal will have a ny text will emerge as any deal will have any text that parliament can fully look at and discuss. and in any serious democracy, you would expect to discuss that over the number of days and we wanted to emphasise that. they cannot even begin to look at the deal until the british parliament has agreed to it. and we point out to them the very considerable obstacles that are there, not least so far the fact we don't have a referendum, which we need to have. and the second thing which came out is the importance of the level playing field argument on environmental and labour standards, not talked enough by the uk, the government is not giving this enough consideration. on saturday, if we don't have a real deal and we are unlikely to have a detailed deal, if at the prime minister tries to put in front of us is just a direction of travel and some warm words, then we are not going to vote for that

andl we are not going to vote for that and i do not think there is any chance he can get that through. some westminster opposition mps in brussels today. let's get more analysis. i'm joined by dawn foster, columnist for the guardian, and daniel capurro, who's the front bench editor for the daily telegraph. thank you for being with us. to quote the great psychoanalyst sir alex ferguson, this is squeaky bum time? it is and we can see that by the fact that everybody has been crowded in brussels, tory mps trying to be careful about what they say and they don't want to give any negative vibes at the moment and at the same time, you have the lib dems trying to decide their position and you have labour deciding whether or not to whip on any potential deal but we still don't know if there will be a deal and obviously the key point will be, can they get the dup on side? daniel, starting with boris johnson's position, if he doesn't

come back with a deal, all the rhetoric about dying in a ditch, hail or high water, leaving in a ditch, hell or high water, leaving on october 31, where does all that stand if there is no deal tomorrow? the government has admitted that borisjohnson will the government has admitted that boris johnson will probably send this letter on saturday to brussels requesting an extension so that finally seems to have been cleared up finally seems to have been cleared up and we don't know if he will send a second letter saying i don't want it. looking at the polling, it seems the public will not blame boris johnson if he fails and they are aware of what is going on in parliament and they have been watching these votes and the benn act in these controversial terms, the surrender act, it seems to have worked with the public and lot who wa nt worked with the public and lot who want brexit done will not blame her. he still has political capital from leading the vote leave campaign and he is mr brexit and the public have not forgotten that. who will have succeeded? in shifting the blame? what about labour? have they come

out with a clear position in making it obvious to everyone that they will not be whipped in terms of a deal if it is done? yes, jeremy corbyn said that they would not be whipping and they would prefer it if labour mps whipping and they would prefer it if labourmps did not whipping and they would prefer it if labour mps did not back boris johnson's deal butjeremy corbyn said it is not his style of leadership and if you compare what happened to boris johnson, leadership and if you compare what happened to borisjohnson, he cast out 28 mps and borisjohnson has put himself in a difficult position, jeremy corbyn does not want to do the same. essentially possibly 19 mps out of the party and completely alienating them. and alienating labour leave voters. he will have to be 100% sure he can get the deal through, at least on his side, if he comes back with one. surely he would have to withdraw the whip from any members of the erg, for instance, who decided they will not vote for this deal? that was some of the

reaction after their throughout 20 or so reaction after their throughout 20 or so tory mps and boris johnson saidi or so tory mps and boris johnson said i will do this to the erg but it could be more convenient if the talks collapse in brussels. the talk from brussels is this hinges on the british government and the dup and there is talk they are still stuck on vat but it certainly would be less embarrassing for boris johnson if it felt in brussels than in parliament. the lib dems, we would expect, i would have thought, amendments if a deal comes forward tomorrow and is put before the house on saturday? one of which is likely to bea on saturday? one of which is likely to be a vote on whether or not there should be a public vote on any deal? yes, jo swinson said that she wants to put forward an amendment and the lib dems might back the deal if there is a promise of it being put to the general public. i think this is an incredibly high risk strategy for the lib dems. most voters remember what happened in 2010 when they entered into the coalition and

com pletely they entered into the coalition and completely capitulated on tuition fees. there is a massive risk forjo swinson, very newly in as leader, and turning round to say, we want a public vote. if it does go to the public vote. if it does go to the public and the public continue to back leave, essentially the lib dems have helped deliver borisjohnson's brexit. they are undermining their own position? they have put forward an amendment to the queen's speech which we will find out about next tuesday. as to whether or not they should be a vote on a public vote on a deal? the lib dems have put out this extreme position on brexit but i think the issue with the referendum, remember, that requires weeks and months of debate and there is not really a majority for that in the commons and there might be on one evening for a referendum but will that last vote after vote through the various readings or the amendments when they try to give 16—year—olds of the vote? to me, it

seems very difficult for a referendum to get through this commons. referendum to get through this commons. how does he win over the dup? it feels like they are still the stumbling block? borisjohnson will be locked in a room with the dup, all10 will be locked in a room with the dup, all 10 mp5, will be locked in a room with the dup, all10 mps, oras long will be locked in a room with the dup, all 10 mps, or as long as the dup, all 10 mps, or as long as the dup want to be locked in that room with him. there is talk of a huge amount of money going towards infrastructure investment in northern ireland but the dup, at this moment, they will really be pushing borisjohnson because firstly they want a lot more money and they know they are in an incredibly strong negotiating position but there is also a big risk for the dup. if the deal is not entirely to their liking, it does look as though the dup have com pletely look as though the dup have completely capitulated after saying over and over they did not want to see any regulatory divergence or the

border on the irish sea. if there is a border on the rsc and the dup sign up a border on the rsc and the dup sign up to this, this has to give succour to nicola sturgeon? she will want the same thing, surely? that is a risk. and as nicola sturgeon was talking about being a bridge, she has to soften this idea of what independence will look like for scotland and the idea of scotland as a bridge between england and europe... compared to northern ireland, the issue there is the dup are not thinking five or 10 years ahead, they are thinking 60 or 70 and while a majority of the trade right now is with the uk and great britain, a small tweak to the constitutional status and to the customs could mean that in 10 or 20 years' time, young entrepreneurs are looking to dublin and that is the crux of what is going on with these discussions with boris johnson with the dup. what we think the eu is offering is a cross community opt out where the republicans, the nationalists and the unionists have

to both opt out. the dup want an opt in and they wanted exclusive to them because they know they are in the minority on a backstop and that is the sticking point and it is hard to see how we can get around that. what will happen? i don't think we will get to a deal and i think saturday might entirely be off. no sitting on saturday? there is the possibility we vote on the outline of a skeleton deal and then we have to come back in two months' time. we will see what happens. thanks very much for joining us. that's it from westminster, the hecklers are still out in force! back to you. thank you very much. the headlines on bbc news... a government source tells the bbc there will be no brexit deal tonight as talks continue in brussels into the evening. president trump describes a meeting with the parents

of harry dunn as beautiful and sad. the family refused to meet the woman involved in the crash that killed their son. the americans move out and the russians move in. how the us troop withdrawal has changed the syrian conflict. the government says it's considering taking control of one of the country's largest rail franchises. the transport secretary grant shapps said northern, which runs commuter services in and out of cities in the north of england, had failed passengers for too long and the franchise could not continue in its current form. judith moritz sent us this update from manchester victoria station tonight. this is one of more than 500 stations used by northern and 20% of the stations across the uk from nottingham to newcastle, liverpool to hold back. the way it functions matters to millions of people and it has been beset by problems. there are places like the one about to

leave platform two, problems with customer service and the chaotic introduction of a new timetable. it has all meant disruption for passengers and today the transport secretary said that it cannot continue. effectively an ultimatum to northern telling them to come up with proposals about how things can improve or he says he is considering taking the franchise out of private hands. what will that look like? it could become just a second company in the country to be run by the operator of last resort. the east coast mainline. an arm's—length government body. or the company could continue to function under the control of northern but with direct management from the department for transport. any of those things could happen but what does this mean for passengers? not a lot in the short term, these things will take months to resolve and as for northern, the

company says it is committed to improving things and it says that it has suffered from challenges beyond its control like old trains like that not being replaced in time because of the manufacturers what about delays and they say they just wa nt to about delays and they say they just want to improve things for customers. the firstjudge to claim protection as a ‘whistleblower‘ has won a landmark appeal at the supreme court. the court unanimously ruled judges can be classified as workers and so should be entitled to whistleblowing protection. districtjudge claire gilham told our legal affairs correspondent clive coleman that she felt she had a duty to raise concerns about workload and security. i felt forced to go off sick. i felt that there was a strong reaction. i didn't feel that i was supported while i was off sick and, after trying to get back to work and have these issues addressed by every possible means internally, i felt i had to take the matter to court. and you fought a very long battle, legal battle. you are a judge — well—equipped to do that, but you've taken it all the way to the supreme court and today,

unanimously, they vindicated your claim thatjudges should be entitled to blow the whistle on matters of public concern. yeah. i think the supreme court clearly felt that there is a public duty here. you take an oath of office and all the consequences that go with it and you're doing a public service. and so you have a duty to speak out if things aren't going right and you should be protected. from this friday the us will impose more than $7 billion worth of extra import taxes on all kinds of goods from europe in retaliation for illegal subsidies that some eu countries — including the uk — gave to plane—maker airbus, the rival of the us manufacturer boeing. today, president trump said the us was "getting even" for unfair treatment. scotch whisky is one product affected. our business editor, simonjack, explains. a bolt from the blue. a 15—yearfeud between eu giant airbus and arch us rival boeing over

government subsidies has seen the us allow to impose £7.5 billion worth of tariffs on eu products, and the impact has landed right here, in speyside in scotland. from friday, single malt exports from scotland to the us, worth £1 billion, will be hit with a 25% tariff. single malt from the republic of ireland will not. so this has been matured in sherry casks for... this distillery sends 60,000 bottles of spey single malt to the us every single year. patricia dylan has been talking to us importers to grow that number. those plans are now under review. we feel as though we're being dragged into a trade war, which is nothing to do with us whatsoever, and because of the 25% tariffs that have been implemented in the us, this is something we can't possibly absorb into our business, so what we have to do is reconsider the market in the us that we are currently in.

it's notjust whiskey makers under pressure. cashmere made in scotland will also get hit. cashmere makers in italy will not, and that putsjohnstons of elgin at a big disadvantage. in the very short—term, we are going to have to absorb these costs, because we can't expect people to pay more for products they've already ordered. in the longer term, this is going to hit consumers in the us, and that is going to mean that their cashmere is going to become more expensive. that in turn means we will be able to export less, grow less, and we'll have to downscale our plans. here atjohnstons of elgin, and many other scottish businesses, there's a sense of confusion, even dismay, that they're being dragged into a damaging trade war that they didn't start, and many are asking, if this is the way the us treats us now, what makes us think there will be any special treatment over trade when we are outside the eu? it seems that old friendships don't beat national self—interest. the uk isn't being targeted unfairly. there will be tariffs put on french

products and german products and other products as well, butjust because we have a special relationship doesn't mean that we are willing to sacrifice our economic interest, in the context of a trade dispute or a trade negotiation, and that, by the way, applies to whatever future trade agreement might be negotiated between the us and the uk, as well. whiskey tariffs were raised on a call with donald trump last week, with the prime minister urging him to rethink. meanwhile, the uk government told the bbc that securing a trade deal with the us is one of its highest priorities. what this shows is that in the ebb and flow of trade, nothing is simple. simonjack, bbc news, speyside. the duke and duchess of cambridge have spent the third day of their royal tour in the hindu kush — a majestic mountain range in pakistan. against the backdrop of a melting glacier, prince william drew attention to the challenges of the climate crisis and called for more action. our royal correspondent, jonny dymond, has the story.

even for the royals, it's a rocky road of the hindu kush. william and catherine came here to see first—hand the impact of a warming planet. the retreat of the glaciers that across these mountains to serve nearly a quarter of humanity. when the glaciers melt, they send water tumbling down, flooding the region. and then once they're gone there's nothing left for the rivers, the rivers that irrigate this hot, hard land. it's why the prince calls global warming an impending catastrophe. he came to learn but also to sound the alarm. 1.6 billion people rely on this water behind us. that is an enormous amount of people who, bearing in mind a lot of people are now living urban lives, it is very hard to understand, living in an urban environment, where your water comes from and how precious the actual source of it all is. blending in with the locals.

not quite. but a nice try. william and catherine went to a remote village to learn about life outside the big cities. and they were sent back to the capital with dancing and smiles, and music ringing in their ears. jonny dymond, bbc news, pakistan. between 1975 and 1980 the man who became known as the yorkshire ripper, peter sutcliffe, murdered 13 women. tonight, the leeds playhouse premieres a play about his barbarous crimes and the fear he instilled in women across yorkshire and beyond. the murderer‘s name is never actually mentioned in the play — deliberately. it's called there are no beginnings and instead gives a voice to women. here's our entertainment correspondent, colin paterson. the yorkshire ripper spread fear in an area far wider than where his crimes were committed. it was dark and it was spooky. that house wasn't there. so this was quite a,

quite a nerve—wracking little area to walk down. at the time of the ripper, ali miles grew up in thirsk, a0 miles to the north of where the first murder happened, leeds. she was so scared that streets where she lived became no—go areas and wouldn't visit the city for decades. i've never been to leeds. a0 minutes down the road? i've never been. i've never been, i've never been to the theatre there, nothing. hearing about the effect the ripper had on her own mum's life inspired the playwright charley miles to give a voice to other untold tales from the time. these are women that were never going to be put on documentaries, or put in history books, and these are women that have never been asked, "how did that make you feel?" i'm fine. look at me. the result is "there are no beginnings" at the leeds playhouse. how can i be expected to keep you safe when you're just determined to make the worst choices? the all—female cast includes broadchurch‘s julie hesmondhalgh, playing a support worker to vulnerable young women, based on the real life of ros goodman.

we should remember the women that lost their voice. ijust hope that people realise what women had to go through in those years. it's also full of humour. yes. because it's about women surviving and coping and being together. yes, it is. and it's... you won't leave the theatre feeling depressed. no, it's light and dark. yeah, it is. light and dark. and out of respect for what the women went through, one name is not heard at all in the play, that of the yorkshire ripper. can you believe that it's just one man doing this to us? one man, one little man, one pathetic boy. all this. colin paterson, bbc news, leeds. doctors in italy caring for a seriously brain damaged girl from london say they hope that she will eventually be able to return to britain and be cared for at home by herfamily. five—year—old tafida raqeeb

was flown to genoa yesterday after her parents won a high court battle to take her abroad for treatment. our medical correspondent, fergus walsh, reports from genoa. on italian soil at last, tafida was taken from a private plane at genoa airport to a waiting ambulance. this is what her family had fought for after doctors in the uk said she should be allowed to die peacefully and with dignity. tafida's parents were welcomed today by staff at the gaslini children's hospital and by pro—life campaigners. her mother is convinced she is slowly improving. we are hoping that, with time, she'll be able to come to some sort of recovery, and that's the day we'll be waiting for patiently. tafida suffered a catastrophic brain bleed in february and is kept alive on a ventilator. the italian medical team agree with british doctors that tafida can never be cured.

the brain injury has been devastating but we cannot exclude that there might be maybe a slight improvement in the future, and we are just buying time to assess if this would be possible. the medical team here will perform a tracheostomy, inserting a tube into tafida's windpipe, which will be connected to the ventilator which keeps her alive. the eventual aim is that she can be transferred back to england and be cared for at home. tafida's parents have applied for italian citizenship for her, in a bid to reduce the cost of medical treatment here, which is all being privately funded. no—one is sure how long her stay in italy will last. fergus walsh, bbc news, genoa. now it's time for a look at the weather.

even though many of us relied sunshine and dry weather today, there are still flood warnings on there are still flood warnings on the rivers in england in particular there is more rain to come on the ground are still saturated so those river levels remain high. today's rain is clearing from the north—east of scotla nd rain is clearing from the north—east of scotland and where we saw it return in the afternoon across the south and east. even as i clears, we have low pressure working from the atla ntic have low pressure working from the atlantic and taking charge for the next three or four days and that means next three or four days and that m ea ns lots next three or four days and that means lots more unsettled weather and more rain showers and longer spells of rain. very difficult to put the details on the showers but most put the details on the showers but m ost pla ces put the details on the showers but most places will see more rain, torrential at times. it could be for the beginning of next week we have a window of drier weather for a day or two. back to the here and now, as one band of rain clears and we see quieter weather for a time of night under starry skies with mist and fog, the showers are gathering further west so temperatures should hold up but for most of us it will

bea hold up but for most of us it will be a chilly night and temperatures will fall low enough for frost in the glens of scotland. a chilly start on thursday morning and that vogue could be a hazard through rush hour but already the low pressure is moving in and was tightly packed as a buyer is indicative of the wind strengthening so as the fog clears after the rush hour we will see the wind pushing them showers further eastwards after a dry and sunny start here. nowhere is exempt from the showers and when they come along will potentially be torrential, moving through on that brisk wind. followed by plenty more to come with hill, thunder and lightning. followed by plenty more to come with hill, thunderand lightning. it followed by plenty more to come with hill, thunder and lightning. it will feel cool with those squally winds and heavy showers, which will continue through thursday evening and into friday with no respite overnight. and no respite on friday. the low pressure closes in on the uk so that means the winds were light and further north which means showers will get lengthier and they will not move through quickly. a brisk went to the south but the wind

is ganging together and bear in mind because the showers are so intense we could get significant rainfall from just one or two showers. in that showery picture continues into the weekend. there is more on the website.

hello, i'm ros atkins. this is outside source. a brexit deal hangs in the balance right now. negotiators continue to work in brussels. we are told there won't be a deal this evening. we'll break it all down for you and give you the latest on where the negotiations are at. turkey's president still refuses to stop the military offensive in syria until, he says, the kurds are defeated. donald trump says it's "not america's problem". he also said this. the pkk, which is a part of the kurds, as you know, is probably worse at terror and more of a terrorist threat in many ways than isis.