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and look back on a momentous day, as brexitcast comes live from the eu summit floor in brussels. right now on the bbc news channel, it's time to catch up on all the day's sport on sportsday. good evening, i'm gavin ramjaun. here's your latest sports news. england have sprung a surprise for their rugby world cup quarter—final against australia on saturday. fly—half george ford has been dropped, with captain owen farrell moving from centre to number 10. ford has been one of england's stand—out players so far, but drops to the bench. eddie jones is looking to beef up his midfield because of the phyical threat of the wallabies, henry slade comes in at outside centre with manu tuilagi moving to inside — the same six nations combination. mako vunipola and courtney lawes come into the pack. i think the great thing about the world cup is that each game's just a game by itself, so whatever you've done in the past doesn't really affect what you're going to do on saturday. and what we do know on saturday
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is that we're going to be well prepared for the game. we've had a good physical prep, we've had a good tactical prep. the players are enjoying being injapan. they're ready to go, and we know australia will be the same, so that's going to be some sort of a game. ireland have named an experienced squad to take on new zealand in their quarter—final later on saturday morning. 12 of the starting 15 began last year's famous victory over the all blacks in dublin, with peter o'mahony and rob kearney being restored to the team. head coachjoe schmidt spoke today about why he thinks that experience is key. there's a number of those players within the side that have contributed to a fair bit of history for us. obviously the first win over the all blacks, first time we won at home against the all blacks, but a few other milestones along the way. a lot of those players that are selected were in australia last summer, selected were in australia last summer, were selected were in australia last summer, were in south africa this summer summer, were in south africa this summer before when we won in cape town. so the accumulation of those experiences together hopefully
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builds a bit of confidence, because you need to have some belief. wales play their quarter—final against france on sunday. their team news is expected around 4am tomorrow morning. there'll be full coverage on the bbc sport website. there's been more british success at the european track championships in the netherlands with the women claiming the gold medal in the team pursuit. the team of laura kenny, katie archibald, neah evans and eleanor dickinson beat germany in the final in apeldoorn by almost three seconds. and the men won the bronze medal, also in the team pursuit. oliver wood, charlie tanfield, ethan hayter and ed clancy made up the team that overcame switerland in the bronze medal race. that brings the medal haul for great britain to five, with one more day of competiton to go. andy murray has reached the european open quarter—finals after beating pablo cuevas in antwerp. murray eased to victory in straight sets over the eighth seed. the former world number one — now ranked 243rd — beat the uruguayan 6—4, 6—3.
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he'll play romania's marius copil in the last eight. boxing promoter eddie hearn held back tears talking about patrick day, who died after suffering a brain injury in the ring on saturday. the 27—year—old was knocked out in the 10th round of the super—welterweight clash with charles conwell. hearn, who was promoting the event in chicago, struggled to hide his emotions when reminiscing about the first team he met day last week. he came over to me before the press conference with joe he came over to me before the press conference withjoe higgins, and he was so conference withjoe higgins, and he was so excited. you know, he was... he just... was so excited. you know, he was... hejust... you was so excited. you know, he was... he just. .. you all right? was so excited. you know, he was... hejust... you all right? yeah, i just remember talking to him and what he was saying... sorry. an emotional eddie hearn there. that's all the sport for now.
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hello. when it comes to autumn weather, doesn't have to be how it's been now for several weeks, so wet, it can be much quieter. misty, frosty mornings and there is the hint of that sort of autumn weather coming at the start of next week because for a change there will be high—pressure on the scene extending its influence across the british isles but as we will find out, it may not last too long. right now, we're still in that other sort of autumn weather, very changeable with some sunshine but shower cloud around on thursday. that's because low pressure is close by, around four friday and indeed on the weekend as it moves right across the british isles. that means sunshine and showers again during friday, plenty of showers down the eastern side for a change to begin the day but they will move away and showers across more of northern scotland compared with thursday. temperatures a degree also down and gusty winds still with the showers particularly into wales and south—west england. low pressure tracking right across the british isles at the start of
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the british isles at the start of the weekend. in the centre of that, winds will be lighter than they've been and around it, northerly in northern scotland so cold i as this area of rain pushes further south across scotland and maybe parts of northern ireland and northern england. scattered showers with sunshine in between, not too many showers around and parts of southern england by the afternoon, still around 15 here. more by sunday getting into the cooler breeze around the area of low pressure as it moves into the north sea. still with a few showers close to that, this time in parts of eastern scotla nd this time in parts of eastern scotland and north—east england in particular. some sunny spells and the chance of a shower elsewhere but notice the arrows coming down from the north as the low pressure moves away, so it starts to feel cooler more widely on sunday. as we start monday with this area of high pressure nudging across us, there could be rain touch of frost in places, especially in the northern half of the uk and may be a few fog patches slow to clear and there is still the chance for catching a shower or two in parts of the east
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and south of england on monday, but most will be dry but with a good deal below cloud around, and for many temperatures around ten, 11, i2 celsius. that area of high pressure clings on for some on tuesday but low pressure well to the north will bring some outbreaks of rain but the stronger wind the further north you are in scotland, but a large part of the uk stays dry for another day on tuesday. sounds weird to say dry, we haven't said that for a while, and temperatures might start to creep up a bit for some ——. that's how we start next week, high pressure, mainly dry, a touch of frost with some fog matches but deep into next week, looks like low pressure is coming back to pay another visit. looking at this jetstream pattern, coming back to pay another visit. looking at thisjetstream pattern, a big in the jetstream will come close to the uk, nestled in that is low pressure but there is uncertainty about how much of the uk will see wet weather from it and weather it will come with mild air or cool air. partially due to the pattern of the jetstrea m
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partially due to the pattern of the jetstream as we widen the view and look elsewhere across the atlantic and look how amplified or wavy it is, partially because of the re m na nts of is, partially because of the remnants of typhoon hagibis moving across the northern hemisphere. when you see a wavyjetstream pattern like this it injects greater uncertainty as you look further into the future. the favoured thinking is low pressure will be close by again next week but we still have to see how many of us will get the wet weather from it. that's how many of us will get the wet weatherfrom it. that's your latest. i thought that was coffee in that cup, is that actually a frothy beer? one cup of each. i thought the bar here closed at 11pm. oh! if you know
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the right people, it's always open! they can smuggle something into a european summit? can i quote jean—claude juncker, where there's a will there's a deal... beer! yeah! welcome to brussels and welcome to brexitcast, live for once. brexitcast, live for once. brexitcast on the bbc. no-one has a clue what brexit is! brexit is... i haven't quite understood the full extent of this. we are particularly reliant on the dover calais crossing. i met boris johnson once. the doubters, the doomsters, the gloom stirs, they are going to get it wrong again. remainers and leavers, that's going to end well.|j can describe brussels as a dog's brexit. hello. it is adam fleming and i'm going to say it again, live in brussels at the eu summit. i'm laura next to you. i'm katya next to you.
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nice to be together, apart from the fa ct nice to be together, apart from the fact chris mason is in reading waiting to do questions on radio 4. it is exciting and we are rooting for him. that's the disappointing news but there's been exciting news today, hasn't there? a revised exit deal exists on paper. yeah, there's a deal! there is a deal. in and of itself it's a big moment, weather you love or hate the idea of leaving the eu, there's a new deal.|j you love or hate the idea of leaving the eu, there's a new deal. i have to put in a but, because we have got so to put in a but, because we have got so jaded and cynical than i feel the urge to say we've had a deal before, about a year ago, and also having a deal here does not mean there really isa deal here does not mean there really is a deal, as we will be finding out later in the programme. when did we find out we had a deal? there was lots of loud whispers about it yesterday. but that was from the eu side. that's right. then
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late last night, it seems there might bea late last night, it seems there might be a deal and before the iopm news last night, the dup said no, there are still gaps and earlier this morning, literally when we were getting on the eurostar to come here to brussels, the choreography was all in place and you knew the agenda of the eu was set out and they could even agree before lunchtime, which a lwa ys even agree before lunchtime, which always seemed a bit ambitious but of course the text from the dup said we are still not there and it seems like it might all be off. surely borisjohnson like it might all be off. surely boris johnson wouldn't sign like it might all be off. surely borisjohnson wouldn't sign up to anything without knowing that he had the mps who borisjohnson votes on board, except that... it wasn't the case because then we got a tweet from the president of the european commission, jean—claude juncker, the sort of person that announces these things. it was: you can see where this is going!
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and then at the end there is a lift picture of the letter. it was difficult to read and that may be better for some people. difficult to read and that may be betterfor some people. it was difficult to read and that may be better for some people. it was a great moment. my colleagues and i in westminster had just arrived and i was running along saying we had to get organised and my phone beeped with deal done. and at that moment... every now and then you think you get a message to recall that says everything is about to change and it really has. although it has not. but getting to this point is a real moment in what has been a very long, long, arduous process. even since last week's brexit cast. and over the last eight days or so there has been a real
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change and i think on the eu side they felt that boris johnson 's change and i think on the eu side they felt that borisjohnson 's mind had changed as if he felt that he had changed as if he felt that he had been going through the motions ofa had been going through the motions of a deal and yes he wanted deal but it got to a point about a week ago when he said i need to throw everything at adding a deal because ido everything at adding a deal because i do not want to required another extension. they felt it and the eu squeezed him over that and it meant that he made some big concessions. but the eu has conceded as well. and from number 10 they think it was the meeting they spoke about last week when borisjohnson meeting they spoke about last week when boris johnson and meeting they spoke about last week when borisjohnson and the irish leader at the country house in cheshire. they think they believe thatis cheshire. they think they believe that is when leo changed his mind and that is when pressure spilt. now we are life which means that people watching can get in touch with us
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live using the hashtag brexitcast. they can make comments that we can read out or we can ask questions. and it also means we cannot talk on and on and on. but we do need to talk about what actually happened. soi talk about what actually happened. so i hada talk about what actually happened. so i had a good question asking where does the eu give ground and where does the eu give ground and where has the eu given ground? who shall i start with? the eu? well, in this very summit building one eu leader after the other lined up when there was a leadership race to take theresa may 'sjob there was a leadership race to take theresa may 's job and there was a leadership race to take theresa may 'sjob and said just because you get a new prime minister does not mean you will get a new deal. this is the withdrawal agreement. and then they clearly changed it. they opened it. they are rewriting bits of it. that was a concession. and when we talk about a
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new brexit deal it is not really a new brexit deal it is not really a new deal, it is about 95%, 96.5, thatis new deal, it is about 95%, 96.5, that is exactly the same as theresa may 's deal. or the renegotiation was about the irish backstop which borisjohnson said he wanted was about the irish backstop which boris johnson said he wanted to was about the irish backstop which borisjohnson said he wanted to be in. can we call this a bin? what we have ended up with? it is different. really different. and in particular because this is the jargon, this is the bit that matters —— matters for brexiteers. and it is all in the politics of whether or not it will get through. under this deal, all of the uk will be out of the eu customs union. the bit in the deal that number 10 thinks is clever is that in this on the ground it will filter
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-- it in this on the ground it will filter —— it will mean that many people will still be happy to follow the rules of the customs union. and if you move house across the irish sea, there will be no tariffs applied. that is an important part for anyone planning to move. so you can move your stuff. but these are about practicalities. from a political point of view, the big thing they got was the knowledge meant that all of the uk can be out of the customs union including northern ireland but they also know they had to give. and there was a bit of give—and—take and bantering there was a bit of give—and—take and ba ntering and there was a bit of give—and—take and bantering and joshing when john claudejuncker bantering and joshing when john claude juncker hosted bantering and joshing when john claudejuncker hosted boris bantering and joshing when john claude juncker hosted boris johnson at the commission whether negotiations have been taking place. there was a mini press conference that was very exciting and there was a bit where borisjohnson made a joke. john claude is the boss here!
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ido joke. john claude is the boss here! i do think this deal is a very good deal both for the eu and the uk and i hope very much now that my fellow mps in westminster do now come together to get brexit done, to get this excellent deal over the line and to deliver brexit without any more delay. a handshake moment and it camea more delay. a handshake moment and it came a little late. i wonder if they snuck off a celebratory lunch and a few cheeky drinks before coming out. they both look knackered. i think it is important not tojust knackered. i think it is important not to just say boris johnson got what he wanted, which is that northern ireland leaves the eu
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customs union along with the rest of the uk. he also did not get something else. at the time, with theresa may 's deal, don't forget the original proposal from the eu was to have northern ireland only backstop and there was an idea that that cannot happen because we cannot have northern ireland being treated differently to the rest of the uk. that is exactly what has now happened and you cannot really get away from that. he can talk about the legal stuff and the eu can say it got its redlines respected which was safeguarding the single market and the northern ireland peace process on the island of ireland after brexit. so both sides can go away holding the you cannot get away from the fact that boris johnson made massive concessions and the dup is more than aware. and that is what will make it difficult for him to get it through parliament. one of the senior brexiteer tory mps who has been in and out of downing street all week and involved in conversations about what could and
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could not be accepted told me a few days ago that borisjohnson broke his power —— promise that the withdrawal agreement was dead. that is not happen, exactly as we were saying. he accepted nearly everything from theresa may 's deal and that matters. he accepted the fa ct and that matters. he accepted the fact there will be different arrangements for northern ireland. and they could be permanent. and thatis and they could be permanent. and that is what makes it difficult to get through parliament. for me, intellectually, i think that is the biggest thing. is that what you do late at night? think intellectually? the backstop was always a compromise until some thing better came along. theresa may kept on saying that it was temporary but we are now in a situation where the backstop will be permanent if that is what the people of northern ireland want. it may not sound like a massive change but it really changes how the whole thing feels and looks. it is like taking a
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problem and looking at it differently. and a big new concept that both sides are been at pains to point out, the idea of giving the stormont assembly, which is, of course, not sitting at the moment, this idea of consent, is a new concept and that is what has changed the dial in this place. should we tell people where we are? if you don't know where we are, you may have seen as standing in here on the news but late at night... this building. it comes in different colours. . anyway, is building. it comes in different coloursl anyway, is not a cosmetic shot it is where the eu summit have been held. we have spent hundreds of
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hours here. and this is what it is like to spend hundreds of hours here. this is what the pressroom looks like at peak press room —— time little of the day up here is what i like to call the balcony of fame because it is where famous presenters do their broadcasting. security is tight here which means going in and out is a total problem which means that smokers are confined to this smokers prison. congratulations. gratulation. good to see you and congratulations. is it finally time for champagne? finally? this is the press conference. we have a spokesman,
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michel barnier and then the irish leader leo varadkar. and thenjohn claudejuncker. leader leo varadkar. and thenjohn claude juncker. i am leader leo varadkar. and thenjohn claudejuncker. i am thus being but this is the austrian bar, so—called because the austrians pay to have it refurbished. can i have a beer? no. and finally, press conferences at the end of every day. borisjohnson is down there at the moment and in here will be emmanuel macron. you think we can go and see what it is like? spoilsport. she laughs do know the french word for spoilsport?
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the other feature you did not mention is that very often late at night is that people are asleep and we spotted someone who was asleep. i feel bad about this but someone helping us out tonight has taken a picture of someone asleep. it's ok. it is unrecognisable. is at this against privacy policy? but these are long, long hours. in the entrance of balance, someone over there was doing situps. so you have people who sleep and people who exercise. so we have a question. let's not ignore them. a question about the domestic situation now that the returning to westminster. given the dup are not going to support this new deal, how likely is it that boris has curated this deal
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asa it that boris has curated this deal as a platform to justify no deal? in other words, is it designed to fail? i think there will be a lot of suspicion about that. i do not think that that was the case. i was talking to someone senior in government tonight and it reminds me a lot of some of the conversations that we have had over the last few months with people around boris johnson who have always said that we really wa nt johnson who have always said that we really want to get a deal but we think it is very unlikely and therefore we are absolutely prepared to leave without a deal because their number one on the list has been leaving on time, leaving at halloween. but the problem with that is the way the deal has been constructed. it is not going to get the dup on—board. and that matters because? because they have ten votes in parliament and boris was concert does not have a majority. and the dup area does not have a majority. and the dup are a totem for brexiteers. if
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they don't agree... hasn't boris johnson cleverly broken that link between the dup and the brexiteers? in the past, the brexiteers said we will go with the dup but now we are saying actually, the future trade agreement for great britain with much less level playing field stuff is much more attractive. and, also, if brexiteers do not vote for this deal, or at least the brexiteers and the conservative party, they will lose votes to the brexit party in the general election. and those are all motivating brexiteers to be much more likely to vote. the backstop was the symbol but there is no way it seems to note that the dup is coming on board. and listen to how angry their westminster leader sounded earlier today.|j angry their westminster leader sounded earlier today. i think that the act has forced borisjohnson into desperation measures in order to avoid trying to get an extension. he has been too eager by fire to get
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a deal at any cost. the fact of the matter is that if he held his nerve and held out he would have gotten better concessions that would have ke pt better concessions that would have kept the integrity of the united kingdom. even arlene foster 's top lip looked angry there. that he would have got more from the eu,i that he would have got more from the eu, i don't. that he would have got more from the eu, idon't. if that he would have got more from the eu, i don't. if we go back again to what everybody wanted at least to get out of this deal, the eu was going to stick to this and they wa nted going to stick to this and they wanted to protect the single market as much as possible. and protect the northern ireland peace process. and the way the proposals of boris johnson's came here with, just did not do that for the eu and yes, that a lwa ys not do that for the eu and yes, that always got give and that was got something up their sleeve but there are limits. they don't concede when it's to the disadvantage. so this is as far as they could go ever?
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because today is one of the questions, wasn't it that we asked, could you go any further? and he looked a bit hacked off to be asked the question. why are you asking a question that isn't what now? that's just hypothetical. but the interesting thing is i can't see a way that the dp is going to budge in the next few days and that means when it comes to the vote in parliament on saturday, less than 48 hours now, if encountered correctly, is it still 48 hours saturday? something like that. it's going to be achingly tight. it's good to be achingly tight and it's a very real possibility that boris johnson will lose this vote, for what it's worth there's a lot of numbercrunching out tonight, the financial times has put the numbers add three, 118, four, and 321 against. so brexit is delayed or doesn't happen... those leaders know that. the body language was so leaders know that. the body language was so interesting today. because it was so interesting today. because it
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was like backslapping and here we 90, was like backslapping and here we go, or mates we have done this deal but it's not real. it's not real, those eu leaders were thinking, really? have you really got the numbers but are not panicking because they do have the brexit extension of the sleeve if the uk requests one and they don't like the idea of another extension and the eu leaders were coy at the summit about an extension but that's because they wa nt to an extension but that's because they want to keep the pressure up on mp5, focus their minds and say look were not going to go on and on about this forever but if they were asked, they would say yes. there was one person who wasn't coy about it. certainly not as coy. he isn't the leader of a country, he is of the european commission so he is a very visible influential person. but he doesn't have a vote. call him and influence. he's got this is his got an old
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knockout that doesn't even some picture messages. i've tried. i don't have the number. he would influence a decision but wouldn't make the decision. asked about on the red carpet today, have a look at... just have a look. we don't think that it's possible to give another progression. i'm speaking. there will be no other prorogation. you are saying? are you going to rule out an extension? that's what i was saying. so you're saying officially that you will rule out an extension. yes, we have a deal so why should we have a prorogation. extension. yes, we have a deal so why should we have a prorogationm should we not translate? i was one of the people in that scrum and we asked him a few times and he said what happens if he fails? he said i'm not in charge of parliament in westminster that it has to pass. i said, what happens in? he said they
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cannot be a prolongation. this is a new word for the brexit lexicon. prolongation. and he talked about an erotic attachment to the backstop. or lack of. something he's given up but the interesting thing is, just to be really clear, it will not be his decision. it is not legally his decision. something leaders of the national... but it's fascinating because we've talked about this before, at least for the last three orfour before, at least for the last three or four weeks, number ten has before, at least for the last three orfour weeks, number ten has been saying, we really, really want to get a deal. and by the way if we get a deal, please, please, please, please, please will you say with a message to parliament in westminster that it message to parliament in westminster thatitis message to parliament in westminster that it is this nothing question mark there would be a delay. as you suggest there is no way that the eu council is officially going to so you can never ever have council is officially going to so you can never ever have an council is officially going to so you can never ever have an extension but some of the big players here
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have played ball with that idea a bit in the luxembourg leader who showed you around his small rooms, not so long ago on the empty lecture and gait. so many gates through brexit. if he said today, one of those people says he is so sad about brexit, he said today this is not about whether you think brexit is a good or bad thing. whether you against it all for it, this is about living with the deal even with no deal. officially, of course are not seeing a given delay, but they are playing boris johnson seeing a given delay, but they are playing borisjohnson schema bit was not there trying to help them as it a lwa ys not there trying to help them as it always said in this attitude teresa mayers. if you sign up to deal with us mayers. if you sign up to deal with us that respects our redlines will help you sell it however you like. and this is gentle help, if you like. but at the end of the day they will say yes to an extension and angela merkel was saying that in her press conference as well because she has tojustify this press conference as well because she has to justify this to her public back home. she is not shutting the
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