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this is bbc world news, the headlines: british lawmakers vote to withold approval of boris johnson's brexit deal until it becomes law. that means no decision on the prime minister's deal until next week, but he's vowed to press on regardless. outside parliament, anti—brexit demonstrators cheered the vote. prime minister borisjohnson later told the eu he would now write to them seeking a delay — as required by law. kurdish fighters accuse turkey of violating a ceasefire deal by refusing to allow the evacuation of trapped civilians as president erdogan threatens "crush the heads" of what he calls kurdish militants. in barcelona, there have been 80 arrests and 200 injuries as pro—independence rallies continue. it's the sixth day of protests since the jailing of nine of catalan leaders after the disputed
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independence referendum. and now on bbc news, it's time for saturday in parliament. hello there, and welcome to this special edition of saturday in parliament. as the commons and the lords sit at a weekend for the first time in 37 years to discuss borisjohnson‘s brexit deal. but the prime minister is defeated again, as mps back delay. the ayes to the right, 322. the noes to the left, 306. boris johnson remains defiant... i will not negotiate
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a delay with the eu. the commons spent five hours debating the latest brexit deal with theresa may making her first public comments since standing down. if you want to deliver brexit, if you want to keep faith with the british people, if you want this country to move forward, then vote for the deal today. opposition mps say what has been agreed this time is even worse than the deal she negotiated. voting for a deal today won't end brexit. he knows that if given the option that people will reject his bad deal and choose to remain in the european union. and peers remained divided on the way forward. an extension would, by definition, increase uncertainty. a second referendum would increase uncertainty. a general election to determine this issue would increase the uncertainty. this was supposed to be the easy bit!
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well, i look forward to the difficult bit(!) 0r maybe not. it had been billed super saturday, the first commons weekend sitting since the outbreak of the falklands war in 1982. in front of mps, boris johnson's re—negotiated withdrawal agreement, the divorce arrangement for the uk's exit from the eu. the plan had been for mps to vote on whether or not to give it the go—ahead. but former conservative sir oliver letwin changed all that. he had put down an amendment to withhold approval and for the deal until the legislation to enact it was safely passed, automatically forcing the prime minister to request a further postponement of brexit until the 31st of january. pundits predicted there could be a smattering of votes in it and so it proved when the letwin amendment was put to mps. the ayes to the right, 322. the noes to the left, 306. the ayes have it, the ayes have it.
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unlock! a defeat for the government by 16. the results meant that under the law known as the benn act, the prime minister would have to write to the eu asking for brexit to be delayed. but he struck a defiant note in the commons. i continue in the very strong belief that the best thing for the uk and for the whole of europe is for us to leave with this new deal on october the 31st. and, to anticipate the questions that are coming from the benches opposite, i will not negotiate a delay with the eu. and neither does the law compel me to do so. i will tell our friends and colleagues in the eu exactly what i've told everyone in the last 88 days that i've served as prime minister. that further delay would be bad for this country, bad for our european union,
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and bad for democracy! the prime minister must now comply with the law. he can no longer use the threat of a no deal crash out to blackmail members to support his sell—out deal. jeremy corbyn. well, that turned out to be the only vote of the day, with the leader of the commons indicating that he now planned to hold a meaningful vote on monday instead. so, how did we get here? as campaigners for a second referendum began marching outside to urge a fresh vote, borisjohnson set out to explain and hopefully sell his deal to mps. much of it was the same as that agreed by his predecessor, theresa may. but there are key differences. firstly on customs, or tariff arrangements. the whole of the uk will leave the eu customs union, allowing it to strike trade deals with other countries.
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tax won't automatically be paid on goods coming into northern ireland from great britain but if something is likely to be transported onto the republic, duty will be paid. eu rules for vat, another tax, will apply in northern ireland for goods, not services. and because of these changes, the northern ireland assembly will vote on the provisions every four years with a simple majority determining if they are accepted or not. the prime minister knew he had a toughjob on his hands to win over enough mps to get his deal through. and adopted a conciliatory tone, thanking everyone for giving up their saturday. the house will need no reminding that this is the second deal and the fourth vote, 3.5 years after the nation voted for brexit. and during those years, friendships have been strained, families divided and the attention of this house consumed by a single issue that at times felt incapable of resolution. he said over the last
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30 years that some in the eu had described the uk as a half—hearted member, but... if we have been half—hearted europeans then it follows logically that with part of our hearts, with half of our hearts, we feel something else. a sense of love and respect. for european culture and civilisation of which we are a part. he said the agreement provided for a real brexit, taking back control of money, laws, fisheries and trade and remove the northern ireland backstop. he moved on to the customs arrangements for northern ireland. our agreement ensures, and i quote, unfettered access, market access, for goods moving from northern ireland to the rest of the united kingdom's internal market. it ensures that there should be no tariff on goods circulating within the uk customs territory between great britain and northern ireland, unless they are at risk of entering the eu.
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it ensures an open border, an open border on the island of ireland, a common objective of everyone in this house. and it ensures for those living and working alongside the border there will be no visible or practical changes to their lives. they can carry on as before. i believe that this is a good arrangement, reconciling the special circumstances in northern ireland with the minimum possible bureaucratic consequences and a few points of arrival in northern ireland and it is precisely to ensure that those arrangements are acceptable to the people of northern ireland that we have made consent a fundamental element of this new deal. and he looked to the uk's future relationship with the eu, pledging to involve mps and he said when it came to regulation, no one believed in lowering standards. and ourfirst decision, on which i believe there will be unanimity,
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is that in any future trade negotiations, with any country, our national health service will not be on the table. cheering he said he thought the best deal had been achieved, and there was a burning desire to get brexit done. further delay is pointless, expensive and deeply corrosive of public trust. and people simply will not understand how politicians can say with one breath that they want delay to avoid no deal. then, with the next breath that they still want delay when a great deal is there to be done. now is the time, now is the time, mr speaker, to get this thing done. and i say to all members, they must come together to end...
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must come together as democrats to end this debilitating feud. let us come together as democrats to get behind this deal. the one proposition that fulfils the verdict of the majority, but which also allows us to bring together the two halves of our hearts, to bring together the two halves of our nation. let's speak now, for the 52 and the 48. let's go for a deal that can heal this country. borisjohnson. the labour leader, jeremy corbyn, saw nothing positive in what had been agreed. he has renegotiated the withdrawal agreement and made it even worse. he has renegotiated the political declaration and made that even worse. this government has sought to avoid scrutiny throughout the process and yesterday evening made empty promises on workers' rights and the environment. the same government that
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spent the last few weeks negotiating in secret to remove from the withdrawal agreement legally binding commitments on workers' rights and the environment. this government cannot be trusted and these benches will not be duped. this deal, mr speaker, would inevitably and absolutely inevitably lead to a trump trade deal. forcing the uk... forcing the uk to divert from the highest standards and expose our families once again to chlorine—washed chicken and hormone—treated beef. he said the prime minister could not be trusted. there was no guarantee the uk would keep pace on environmental standards and borisjohnson had promised there would be no border in the irish sea. voting for a deal today won't end brexit. it won't deliver certainty. and the people should have the final say. the longest serving mp said he would back the deal on one
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condition. i will vote for his deal once we have given legislative effect to it. when he goes on to negotiate the eventual long—term arrangements, he will seek a solution where we have the same completely open access across the channel, across the irish border, to trade and investment in both directions with the european union that we have now. boris johnson didn't answer that directly but said he wanted a partnership with the maximum trade. the snp's westminster leader said there was not one reference to scotland in the agreement. the prime minister has returned from brussels to present a deal that he knows that we all know is actually worse than theresa may's deal. a deal that would see scotland shafted by this united kingdom government.
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left at an economic disadvantage. with scotland's views and interests totally disregarded by this prime minister and his government. the prime minister's deal removes protections on workers' rights. it puts a border down the irish sea, and according to the government's own analysis, will damage our economy on a scale greater than the financial crash. today, hundreds of thousands of people will be outside, demanding a final say in a people's vote. isn't the truth that the reason a prime minister refuses their calls is because he knows that if given the option, that people would reject his bad deal and choose to remain in the european union? this deal puts northern
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ireland, yes, in the uk customs union that applies de facto or the european union customs code. yes, it does. read the detail. it also puts us in the vat regime, and in the single market regime for a large part of goods and agri—food, without any consent upfront, contrary to the agreement made in december 2017 which said only regulatory difference could happen with the consent of the executive and the assembly. it drives a coach and horses through the belfast agreement by altering the cross community consent mechanism. it was once said that no british prime minister could ever agree to such terms. that's what you said, sir! a deal those who sought the leadership of the tory party said that at our conference. will he now abide by that?
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and please, reconsider the fact that we must leave as one nation together. the prime minister asks us with passionate words to vote for his deal with our hearts. but my head can't get round the fact that we are being asked to accept his words interesting ignorance. he has refused to share the impact assessments. and he only revealed this 535 page legal text to dave, for us to how could plaid cymru ever support his billionaires brexit?” would gently remind her of what she andi would gently remind her of what she and i both know, i'm a fan of her normally but what she and i both know is that wales voted to leave and she should respect that. isn't the truth that this deal takes a wrecking ball to our social and environmental standards? and the reason they won't put it back to the british people is because he knows full we ll
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british people is because he knows full well that they see through his bluster and they can see that this isa bluster and they can see that this is a profoundly bad deal? caroline lucas. the statement from the prime minister went on for two hours and thenit minister went on for two hours and then it was on to the debate on the agreement itself. borisjohnson‘s predecessor, theresa may can be used it to make herfirst predecessor, theresa may can be used it to make her first public comments on the deal. i hope the whole house will forgive me if i say that standing here i have a distinct sense of deja vu! i know how you feel! but today's vote is an important... rebel, shouted a conservative mp. i intend to rebel against all of those who don't want to vote to deliver brexit. cheering when this house voted overwhelmingly to give the choice of our membership of the eu to the british people, did
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we really mean it? when we voted to trigger article 50, did we really mean it? when the two main parties represented in this house stood on ma nifestos represented in this house stood on manifestos in the 2017 general election to deliver brexit, did we really m ea n election to deliver brexit, did we really mean it? i think there can only be one answer to that and that is yes, we did mean it. yes, we keep faith with the british people and yes, we want to deliver brexit because if this parliament did not mean it, then it is guilty of the most egregious contract on the british people. —— con trick. if you don't want no deal, you have to vote for a deal. businesses are crying out for certainty. people want certainty in their lives. our investors want to be able to invest and want the uncertainty got rid of. they want to know this country is moving forward. if you want to deliver on brexit and keep faith
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with the british people and if you wa nt with the british people and if you want this country to move forward, then vote for the deal today. cheering theresa may there. much of the debate centred on sir oliver letwin's amendment, withholding approval until the legislation implementing the agreement was passed. the brexit secretary saw no merit in it. his amendment would render today's vote meaningless. it would cause further delay when our constituents and businesses want an end to uncertainty. and are calling for this to get this done. mr speaker, the public will be appalled by pointless further delay. we need to get brexit done by the 31st of october so the country can move forward and i asked my right honourable friend in that spirit to withdraw his amendment. but is honourable friend declined.
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withdraw his amendment. but is honourable friend declinedlj withdraw his amendment. but is honourable friend declined. i am moving this amendment to ensure that which way any future votes go today or next week or the week after that we can be secure in the knowledge that the uk will have requested an extension tonight which, if granted, and be used if and to the extent necessary and only the extent necessary and only the extent necessary to prevent a no deal exit. there were strong opinions on both sides of the argument. in voting for the amendment by the right honourable member of dorset west, we will be. even if a deal is approved to seek an extension to the 31st of january, underlying that the benn act had one motivation, to delay brexit and stop it. if that passes, my guess is, and there is an extension, the legislation will go on and on and on and we will never leave. the right honourable lady is absolutely right. if you want it done, vote against the letwin
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amendment, and get legislation through by the end of october and get brexit done. the difficulty is that the impression the government is giving is that by insisting the benn act be effectively subverted and removed that it has other intentions of taking us out at such a gallop that this proper scrutiny cannot take place. and i wish the government would just listen a little bit because i think it would find there is much more common ground on this than it has ever been prepared to acknowledge, instead of which it continues to give the impression that it just wants to drive a coach and horses through the rights of this house to give proper scrutiny. it doesn't cause delay, that exercise has to be gone through anyway. so it is not to vote to delay, it is a vote to get on with looking at the next stage. a stage which is going to have to look up. what it does provide is an insurance policy against signing up to a deal thatis policy against signing up to a deal
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that is not what it seems with the risk of a no—deal brexit to boot.“ we a cce pt risk of a no—deal brexit to boot.“ we accept the amendment, we will not have a meaningful vote today. we will not unlock the door to the deal being passed. we will have voted, i'm afraid, in the terms of that motion for more delay and i'm afraid on that basis that i would urge everyone who wants us, no, who wants us everyone who wants us, no, who wants us to honour the referendum mandate to recognise that amendment, however sincerely it has been put, is unnecessary and the question all of us unnecessary and the question all of us must answer unnecessary and the question all of us must answer when we unnecessary and the question all of us must answer when we return to our constituencies is, did you vote to break the deadlock? did you vote to end the division of these days? did you vote to bring the country together? i know members across this house would support the government this afternoon to do just that. cheering michael gove speaking just ahead of that vote on the letwin amendment.
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here's returned to westminster today, the conservative former leader michael howard urged mps to back borisjohnson leader michael howard urged mps to back boris johnson and leader michael howard urged mps to back borisjohnson and warned of the economic impact of further uncertainty. an extension would, by definition, increase uncertainty. a second referendum would increase uncertainty. a general election to determine this issue would increase the uncertainty. yet these are the outcomes are urged upon us the uncertainty. yet these are the outcomes are urged upon us by those who complain that this deal would cause economic damage. so i beseech them to consider and reflect if they are democrats, they must respect the result of the referendum. if they are realistic, they must recognise the damage to our economy that the prolonged uncertainty which rejection of this deal would bring about. if they have the interests of oui’ about. if they have the interests of our country at heart, and i know they do, they must see that this deal presents a unique opportunity to resolve this most intractable
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issue and to move on and bring our country together again. i commend the prime minister's deal to your lordship, serve. labour called for a second referendum. if this is the best brexit, that a brexit believing prime minister considers can be delivered, then why not seek that public mandate for it? my lords, anything less would be a dereliction of duty. for the conservative and unionist party, to be hailing this deal is good for all parts of the united kingdom, when it leads to disintegration, is frankly shameful. but typical of the lengths that the current prime minister will go to try and preserve the unity of the english conservative party. my lords, everyday that goes by, every additional day add to public uncertainty, aggravates public anger and makes the task of restoring that
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confidence that very precious confidence, that much more difficult. it is already going to ta ke yea rs. difficult. it is already going to take years. on thursday evening, catch my train at euston, i overheard one young woman discussing with her companion brexit, and i heard her say, thank god it's over. well, my lord, it isn't yet. but it really should be. get brexit done is meaningless. because we know that whatever happens today, brexit will not be done. we will be on the starting blocks with brexit. this was supposed to be the easy bit! well, i look forward to the difficult bit, or maybe not! we have seen difficult bit, or maybe not! we have seena difficult bit, or maybe not! we have seen a remarkable transformation in the prime minister from being a bit ofa the prime minister from being a bit of a buffoon to being a bit of a statesman. oh, yes. there is no doubt about that. he's actually
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brought... this is what troubles the house. this is a deal he might actually pass and we might actually leave europe. this is an important and exciting day for us. this deal is so good because there is no backstop, no border and the border in the irish sea, there is no border on land, the border on the sea is largely a filter because most of the trade between britain and northern ireland in the future would be frictionless as it is today. the other great advantage of the deal to northern ireland, it gives a unique position with the foot in both camps. one in europe and one also in out camps. one in europe and one also in our own camps. one in europe and one also in our own country. i accept the judgment of two prime ministers who did more than anyone else to end an 800 year conflict in the island of ireland. blairand 800 year conflict in the island of ireland. blair and major, who have warned against instability and i have to say, and i accept their judgment far more than the present
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prime minister, who famously said, as regards to the border in ireland, that the consequences were no greater than moving from camden to islington. what ignorance of the history and culture and sentiment of the people of that province are coming from a british prime minister. john reid. and that debate in the house of lords ended without a vote. all eyes will now turn to the commons on monday where the government is hoping to put its case again. mandy baker will be with you then, you can catch her on bbc parliament on monday night at 11pm, oi’ parliament on monday night at 11pm, or search for monday in parliament on bbc iplayer. but from mika melissa mccarthy, and on our saturday in parliament special, goodbye. —— but from me, melissa mccarthy.
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that evening. sunday will be a drier day across the country. still a few scattered showers clearing overnight across eastern england and with a northerly breeze driving in sharper showers into the far north of scotland. elsewhere, we see the skies clearing and temperatures falling away. with northerly winds, we see low single figures in rural parts of eastern scotland and eastern england as well. a chilly start on sunday morning but a quiet story for many. the northerly winds driving in scattered showers across east coasts but further south, and west, some sunshine through the day but a drier story across the country. temperatures likely to at nine to 1a degrees. there is a slight problem on monday morning, with the potential for rain pushing into the far south—east corner. we
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iam i am christian fraser live in westminster whether british prime minister is reacting to the latest delay to his brexit plans with defiance. he is about to send a letter to european leaders to request an extension as he is required to do by law but we understand he has refused sign it. the ayes to the right, 322, the noes to the left 306, so the ayes habit, the ayes habit. unlock! earlier british voted not to approve the big deal until it becomes law. outside parliament and the brexit demonstrators cheered the delay as they rallied for a second referendum. i am
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