tv Outside Source BBC News October 22, 2019 9:00pm-10:01pm BST
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hello, i'm ros atkins, this is outside source. more extraordinary developments in the brexit story. mps have given one green light to borisjohnson‘s brexit deal — but then slammed on the brakes. the ayes to the right, 308 and the for the first time approved a brexit noes to the left, 322. deal, but they also delivered a blow to the prime minister. mps reject the goverment‘s timetable to rush its brexit withdrawal bill through parliament in just three days. but in a victory for borisjohnson they voted to back the contents of the deal itself. the ayes to the right 308, the noes to the left 322. in the second of two crucial votes, 0ne they rejected the government's one way or another we will leave the timetable, for debating the bill, eu, with this deal, to which this but borisjohnson took comfort in the earlier vote.
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house hasjust eu, with this deal, to which this house has just given eu, with this deal, to which this house hasjust given its assigned. we'll have all the analysis. for the first time in this long saga this house is actually accepted if you have any questions, send it its responsibilities together, come together, my way. we will be live in and embraced a deal. members cheer westminster. in a packed house, labour'sjeremy corbyn underlined our other big story here the opposition of so many mps, to the time allocated for debate. on 0utside source... tonight, the house has refused to be bounced into debating a hugely a ceasefire in north—eastern syria was due to expire an hour ago, but with just over an hour to go turkish and russian leaders announced a deal to give kurdish fighters more time to withdraw from the border. we'll have the latest on the new deal. let's try to impact his hugely brexit —— hugely important brexit moments. first parliament supported the withdrawal agreement bill — the first time parliament had supported a form of brexit since the vote back in 2016. and the majority of 30 meant
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it wasn't even close. second, parliament voted on the government's three day timetable for turning this bill into law. this was the result being announced. the ayes to the right, 308, the notice to the left 322. so, just to be clear, the vote went 322 to 308 against the government. that's a problem for borisjohnson — time and again he's said he'll get brexit done by october 31. after that defeat, it looks very very difficult to hit that deadline. this was the prime minister's reaction. let me say in response mr speaker how welcome it is, even joyful thought for the first time this house actually accepted its responsibilities together, came together and embraced a deal. i
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congratulate honourable members across the scale of our collective achievement, a few weeks ago people could hardly believe we reopened a agreement and certainly nobody thought we could sit the approval of the house for a new deal. and we should not overlook the significance of this moment. i pay particular tribute to those members of the house who were sceptical and had difficulties and decided to place the national interest ahead of any other consideration. mr speaker i must express my disappointment that the house again voted for a delay rather than a timetable that would have guaranteed that the uk would be ina have guaranteed that the uk would be in a position to leave the eu on 0ctober in a position to leave the eu on october the 31st with a deal.
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in a position to leave the eu on october the 31st with a dealm in a position to leave the eu on october the 31st with a deal. it is certainly true that the eu said it would not reopen its agreement with theresa may but borisjohnson persuaded ed to do so. boris johnson previously said he would rather die in a ditch than ask for a brexit delay. well, he already had to ask for that delay on saturday. he was compelled by a law and he's passed a few weeks previously. and now it's expected the eu will grant one until the end of january. the leader of the brexit party, nigel farage has thrown that quote back at borisjohnson tonight tweeting, "do or die is over, we have now moved on to dying in a ditch. we will not be leaving the eu on the 31st of october". but the prime minister hasn't admitted defeat just yet. here he is again. government must take the only responsible course and accelerate oui’ responsible course and accelerate our preparations for a no deal outcome but certainly i will speak to eu member states about their intentions until they have reached a
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decision. until they reached a decision, we will pause this legislation and let me be clear, our policy remains that we should not delay, that we should leave the eu on october the 31st and that is what i will say to the eu and i will report back to the house. one way or another we will leave the eu, with this deal, to which this house has just given its ascent. and i think it members across the house for that hard—won agreement. it members across the house for that hard-won agreement. boris johnson marking a victory as he sees it and it was in that first vote. 0pposition parties are also claiming victory tonight. this was the leader of the opposition just moments after the government's timetable was voted down. tonight the house has refused to be
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balanced into debating a hugely significant piece of legislation in just two days, with barely any notice or analysis on the economic impact of this bill. the prime minister is the author of his own misfortunes i make this offer to him tonight... work with us, all of us, tonight... work with us, all of us, to agree a reasonable timetable and i suspect this house will vote to debate, scrutinise and i hope anand the detail of this bill. that will be the sensible way forward and that is the offer i make on behalf of of the opposition tonight. one possible consequence of this vote against the government is a general election. during today's debate, borisjohnson made his position on that idea clear. if parliament refuses to allow brexit to happen and instead gets
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its way and decides to delay its way to january or possibly longer, with great regret i must direct to the point that the honourable gentleman raises, the bill will have to be pulled and we will have to go forward much as the right honourable gentleman may not like it, we may have to go forward to a general election. and look at this from the prime minister's chief strategist, dominic cummings. he released a statement shortly before the vote in which he threatened that the government would effectively go on strike. here it is. if parliament votes again for delay by voting down the programme motion in the eu offers a delay until the sist in the eu offers a delay until the 31st of january, we in the eu offers a delay until the 31st ofjanuary, we will pull the bill, there will be no further business for proudman and move to an election before christmas, if necessary by a vote of no confidence and we will not waste further months
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with this parliament with 2020 referendums on brexit or scotland. let's bring in a christian and rob and we have questions coming in from the audience, but before that your first impressions on good news and not so good news for borisjohnson. he was talking about it like a football match. it was a good first half and football match. it was a good first halfand an football match. it was a good first half and an abysmal second half. the stomach borisjohnson half and an abysmal second half. the stomach boris johnson got the half and an abysmal second half. the stomach borisjohnson got the bill passed but then everything went wrong in the second half. we should not underplay the significance of what and when you consider that there were three meaningful votes which theresa may certainly lost by more than 30 votes and putting it in the context of this problem and it was a significant victory and i was reading tonight that all 285 conservative mps voted both for the
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second reading and for the timetable bill so that is very impressive operation on the conservative side and it shows there is a solid conservative majority now for the deal and the problem for boris johnson as the 19 labour mps and what sort of things do they want. it is not a consistent solid coalition that voted for the second reading that voted for the second reading that then follows the bill through its course through parliament and i think that is a problem for boris johnson, if and when he does come back, he will see a whole host of the amendments come forward and the 19 labourmps might the amendments come forward and the 19 labour mps might split depending on what they want from the dell. by the way that was supposed to be and my two scottish football managers so i'io my two scottish football managers so 110 one my two scottish football managers so no one gets my two scottish football managers so 110 one gets across, my hero. my two scottish football managers so no one gets across, my hero. i will back up what christian was saying, to say where we now are, we have
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additional clarity result this evening and in essence, when the evening and in essence, when the evening started, were three options, for the uk over brexit and i think one was we leave with a deal but that deal on october the 31st or we leave later than that and there is a general election. now we are down two options two or three. same deal with a little bit of a delay or the whole process breaks down and general election. i have a tweet here from a secondary school teacher who asked my students want to know if the uk are leaving eu on the 3ist? if the uk are leaving eu on the 31st? i think that is gone tonight because the time tabling on the opposite side, you would have needed this to go through by thursday and thenit this to go through by thursday and then it goes to the lords and they have to get royal assent so that would be tuesday or wednesday and did not forget it has to be ratified
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on the opposite side by the european parliament and it does not give them enough time to have the special setting before the 31st of october which is thursday so i think that is gone. what i think you might see, one of the options being discussed 110w one of the options being discussed now and here is another word for the brexit lexicon, flex extension, so maybe because they do not want to get in the way of the political scene here, you send us a letterfor the 31st of january but even if you can ratified the deal and get the legislation through, by all means, you can leave. that may be one of the scenarios that plays out in the next few days and i think donald tusk was talking to european leaders and said they want to see her from the uk side. the one thing, i am a little puzzled by, if he negotiates for a shorter extension, is he embracing the ban act quickly that might bea embracing the ban act quickly that might be a challenge that comes in
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the courts, that could open up yet another can of worms and basically i agree with what christian said, the 3ist agree with what christian said, the 31st of october new leading then. here is another question, the queen's speech being the legislative agenda of the next two days, it was agenda of the next two days, it was a vote on the queen's speech and get a vote on the queen's speech and get a general election that way? normally, if you lose a queen's speech, that is it, overcome the general election. we left normal times, that was months back, normal times. i do not think that is necessarily the case. i do not... the scottish national party of course wants an election and want rid of this terrible government and em black for its words. —— and ian
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blackford's words. and maybe hejust wa nts to blackford's words. and maybe hejust wants to keep the prime minister where he has and at the moment, more delay and a sort of zombie government setting ——. and at the same time he will be under a lot of pressure for his own side to get behind the second referendum amendment if it comes back on the withdrawal bill, if and when that reappears and there will be sent in labour mps who want to get on time with that. i want to reiterate this because a lot of viewers were asking about this. can the eu only give a one—month extension, does that fit with the request that borisjohnson made? i think they have the letter, it is not signed but they have a letter i sent down by law, the requesting is until the 31st of january and i think that is the starting point, but obviously boris johnson has been speaking to words emmanuel macron and he is one of
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thoseit emmanuel macron and he is one of those it is getting quite impatient and interestingly he is away on the 28th of october so if you are going to have a summit to discuss all this, a bit of a problem there and maybe could have an agreement, where ambassadors exchange letters around capitals and that is the conclusion they come to. the most obvious thing for the eu to do is do what they we re for the eu to do is do what they were asked to do than get involved in uk politics. if you think about it and in uk politics. if you think about itand a in uk politics. if you think about it and a common—sense way, no reason to keep the uk and the european union if they pass the withdrawal bill agreement and that is the end we are trying to get to in terms of brexit and if it is done, i cannot see why they want to keep the uk and. instead ofjanuary 21, plate 2030 and do you think anyone would notice to? thank you very much we will come back to you later in the
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programme. we are well aware this is an important development but a complicated one, if you send us any questions we will do our best to a nswer questions we will do our best to answer them, the # and e—mail are on the screen. we had spent a lot of programme on brexit but not all of it. turkish and russian leaders announce a deal effectively extending a ceasefire in northern syria — giving kurdish fighters more time to withdraw from the border. we'll be live to our correspondent in the region. we will bring you up—to—date on the various ramifications of that announcement. a us pharmaceutical company says it may have developed the first drug to slow alzheimer's disease. biogen will soon seek regulatory approvalfor the drug in the us. james gallagher reports. there is no drug that can slow the pace of any dementia so if this one is capable of doing it in alzheimer's, that would genuinely be one of the biggest moments of modern medical research.
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however, the question is, are we there yet? we are not entirely sure we have the answer. so biogen earlier this year looked at this data and went no, it does not work. but now it has looked in more detail and looked at the patients were getting the very very highest doses and their benefit in terms of memory, language ability and day to day tasks like getting dressed in the morning, so the question now is what does it really mean? so scientists want to see the data and much greater levels of detail than they are able to at the moment and only then will they be saying if this is a turning point in dementia or not. this is 0utside source live from the bbc newsroom. 0ur lead story is... britain's prime minister, borisjohnson, has halted crucial legislation on brexit, after mps rejected his government's short timetable for parliament to consider it.
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let's quickly look at some of the new stories from bbc world service. the canadian prime ministerjustin trudeau has been returned to power. but he'll be forced to work with other parties after losing more than twenty seats — adn with them his majority. it's expected his new minority government will seek support from the smaller new democrat party which is more left wing than mr trudeau's liberals. in 0slo, police fired shots to stop an armed man who commandeered an ambulance. the offender was not seriously hurt, but several members of the public, including a child, were injured when the ambulance struck them. we don't know thes attacker‘s motives. one of denmark's most visited lighthouses is being moved inland as it faces an increasing threat from the sea. the lighthouse is being shifted on rails 70m away from the sandy cliff where it's been for 120 years. it's more likely than ever that there will be an election in the uk sooner rather than later.
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this is how it could work. under the fixed—term parliaments act, the next uk election isn't due until 2022. to hold one ahead of that requires the support of two—thirds of mps in the house of commons. the prime minister challenged mps to hold an early election several weeks ago — but the opposition labour party declined to support it. here's the labour leader back in september explaining why. the offer of the election today as a bat like the offer of an apple to snow white and the wicked queen because what it is offering as not even an apple or an election but the poison of the old deal. mr corbyn‘s argument being that — if mps had voted for an election, parliament would then be dissolved — during which time, it was possible that britain could exit from eu on october 31st without a deal. now with this possibility back centre stage, we have this from reuters. it says it spoke to an anonymous
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labour party source. it says: "labour will only back an early election if a brexit extension long enough to allow for a snap poll is agreed with the european union and a no—deal brexit is off the table." so the same concern remains. but perhaps the circumstances are changing. remember, having said many times that he wouldn't ask for an extension — on saturday, boris johnson did just that. he was compelled to do so by a law recently passed by mps. he made clear in a second letter sent at the same time, he didn't like the idea. well the request went to donald tusk. he's president of the european council and as such represents the national leaders within the eu. here's how he's approaching the request. —— before latest votes in parliament he is explaining how he approached this request. how to react and will decide in the coming days but it is obvious that the result of these confirmations depend on what the
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british parliament decides or does not decide. so a perfect catch 22. labour says it won't support an election until there's a sufficient extension to avoid a no—deal brexit. the eu says it won't grant an extension until the situation in parliament is resolved. at the moment it is not resolved, despite all of that, lots of talk about when an election could be held. we know some information already. there has to be 25 working days between parliament being dissolved and pulling days so that pushes us into december and all likelihood at the very earliest. here's the conservative mp nigel evans on the prospect of en election. if the european union says we will give you this extension until the 3ist give you this extension until the 31st of january two hi pat election and the scott not come forward —— onboard, it will be difficult for the labour party to say we won a general election but we did not want to it becomes far more difficult for
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them and it may be persuasive for them and it may be persuasive for them to say all right, let's do that and that favoured dates at the 28th of november and 25th of december it so we can get them out of the way. until mps come around to the idea of holding an election it is not going to happen in until 2022, in all likelihood it will happen at some point but we do not know when. we've been hearing reaction from mps after the vote too — here is another brexiteer, conservative mp andrew bridgen. it was a commitment by the prime minister and i think the country have been let down onto the deadlines already, business is struggling with the uncertainty and it is now starting to affect the economy, everyone wanted this over and cynically for political point scoring, labour has seen fit to take down the programme motion and prevent our sleeping on the 31st of 0ctober prevent our sleeping on the 31st of october and it is cynical politics. it will damage the party more than a
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will damage the prime minister and what we want now is a general election because what is clear is the party, we are in government but with -45 the party, we are in government but with —45 majority we are not in power. just as i was playing you this plate democrat, i tweet from ian fleming, the fact there is no timetable for the rest there is no timetable for the rest the ledge of the station will mean the ledge of the station will mean the eu needs more facts before they can makea the eu needs more facts before they can make a decision about the extension, certainly nothing tonight. we are now being told that donald tusk is saying that eu is minded to grant the requested extension which was three till january and had to be three till january, and here is a tree that just came through from donald tusk. two plus the process of ratification of the withdrawal agreement and in order to avoid a no—deal brexit i will recommend that you 27, the remaining 27 eu members once the uk is gone, excepting a uk request from them ifor an
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is gone, excepting a uk request from them i for an extension and for this i propose a written procedure and this is significant because there is speculation about with the eu grant this and more importantly what kind of linked an extension would it grant. we did not have confirmation from what this —— but what this suggests is that donald tusk will respond from that request he received on saturday from boris johnson and don't let borisjohnson did with a three month extension into january. the suggestions are the eu are willing to do that but let's reemphasize what christian frazier was saying earlier, it is not just for donald frazier was saying earlier, it is notjust for donald tusk frazier was saying earlier, it is not just for donald tusk to frazier was saying earlier, it is notjust for donald tusk to decide. comes down to the national leaders and especially the most influential leaders, emmanuel macron is one of them. he expressed his frustration that this keeps getting extended. not definite but it looks like the eu will lead to extend to january just as boris johnson eu will lead to extend to january just as borisjohnson requested on saturday. what is going on with brexit, let's pause a moment ago to
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some business stories. adam neumann is expected to step down from wework. he founded the the office sharing firm but he's increasingly been seen as a problem for it. earlier this year the company was valued at a whopping 47 billion dollars — but after following a failed bid to list on the stock exchange it's now accepted a deal with japan's softbank which values it at 8—billion dollars. vivianne nunis is with us. went does softbank think it is worth spending? i think you have to think of soft bank already having scan in game, it the already owned a third and it was the biggest backer and investor so when things were looking grim for the company, we found out it really was not making much money, and softbank had to step in and try to turn things around so it could save money it spent already. in terms of his departure, will it have any terms of his departure, will it have a ny effect terms of his departure, will it have any effect on how the company
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operates? he was the visionary behind it and turned it into the real estate business that was the cause of a lot of problems and i saw in as the architect of the rise and fall. they we re architect of the rise and fall. they were hoping to install their own c00 and he would take over as chairman and he would take over as chairman and he would be bought out with a fairly substantial payment around $1 billion of his own stock so he would be forced aside. he was ceo and is out of that role and will be off the board as well and they help that is the change that will help it make some money. thank you very much indeed. we appreciated. turning back to brexit and remind you that donald tuskis to brexit and remind you that donald tusk is saying he will recommend to the eu 27 european leaders he represents that they accept boris johnson's request for an extension centre on saturday after he decided to pause the process with the
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ratification of text —— his brexit deal. will have more for you in a few minutes. hello there, we will take a look at some of our weather stories from around the world. starting off across the united states you might remember this time yesterday we were talking about a tornado that hit the north of dallas and that formed ahead of this weather friend as you can see here on the satellite picture the front is now moving and now into the atlantic. but we still have the main driving low—pressure system sat across canada and increasingly it is pulling down some colder air out of the canadian arctic. we are seeing some of the rain turned to snow on the western flank of the system and that will be effecting parts of manitoba and western ontario particularly over the hills. in india we see some torrential rain over the last 2a hours, as much as 191mm of rain has fallen in the south in just 2a hours. that is incredibly wet. it is down to an area of low pressure in the bay
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of bengal and another one has farmed out and the arabian sea. both of these will continue to enhance the rains across much of the peninsula and we will see falls of rain maybe 250 mm in rain and places and a similar story and sri lanka. we could see some flooding impact here. over the next few days low—pressure is going to really start to come together in the arabian sea and probably turn into a cyclonic store and gets quite close to western india before starting and drifting back westwards once again for keeping a close eye on that. this is a typhoon which is forecast to strengthen to become a violent typhoon and that is clearing out of the way, taking cloud with it but in between these two systems we will likely to develop another area of low pressure and that will bring heavy rain to set them parts of japan, particularly kyushu, where we could be seeing 50 or 100 mm of rain and places. cold south—westerly winds continue to affect new zealand and though the weather will be dry for a time we will be looking at the next weather
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friend moving into the southwest bringing rain and again a return of some mountain now across the southern alps but it was a pretty cool here. then in europe, this could cause big problems, a slow moving weather friend bringing torrential sundry downpours across the north of spain and southern parts of france. these areas because the air is very moist and we see there are thunderstorms move in, they could pick up around 100 or 200 or 300 mm of rain in one or two areas which could bring the risk of some flash flooding. so the weather could be really nasty northeast spain, and southern france over the next couple of days. a little further afield, across the eastern side of the mediterranean i am keeping a close eye on what could become quite a nasty area of low pressure towards the end of the week, bringing thunderstorms and potentially some very strong winds as well. details a little sketchy but things can be quite nasty there as well. tomorrow, rain at times and strong winds across the northwest and in between these areas, occasional brighter spells,
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hello, i'm ros atkins, this is 0utside source. mps have given one green light to borisjohnson's brexit deal — but then slammed on the brakes. the ayes to the right, 308, the note to the left 322. mps reject the goverment‘s timetable to rush its brexit withdrawal bill through parliament in just three days. but in a victory for borisjohnson they voted to back the contents 0ne one way or another, we will leave the eu with this deal to which this house has just given its ascent. after that vote donald tusk says
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he will recommend eu leaders accept the uik's request for an extension. our other big story here on 0utside source — a ceasefire in north—eastern syria was due to expire right now, but with just over an hour to go turkish and russian leaders announced a deal to give kurdish fighters more time to withdraw from the border. we'll have the latest on the new deal. the five—day ceasefire in northern syria has expired. but with just hours to spare, turkey and russia landed
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in order to avoid a no—deal brexit, he recommends that the except the uk request for an extension. just to be clear on what he is responding to, that his response to the letter the borisjohnson sent on saturday requesting an extension, but the eu previously said they would not respond any further understand the process in westminster. donald tosca seen process in westminster. donald tosca seen enough in borisjohnson is seeing his time stable defeated and also seeing johnson saying that he is pausing the process of ratifying this bill in the sink he recommends that extension is granted we think they'll mean extension to january because boris johnson they'll mean extension to january because borisjohnson requested a three month extension. we'll come back to brexit in detail, lots of people are sending in inquiries, but ido want people are sending in inquiries, but i do want to pause brexit and turn toa i do want to pause brexit and turn to a hugely significant matter in syria. the five—day ceasefire in northern syria has expired. but with just hours to spare, turkey and russia landed
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an agreement that has effectively extended it with russia allowing turkey to create what it calls a ‘safe zone' — just below the border. here's turkey's president earlier. translation: starting 12:00 pm of october 23, within 150 hours, ypg terrorists and their arms to be taken out of the 30 km zone. their fortifications and positions will be destroyed. after 150 hours in the west and the east of the area of operation peace spring. in a 10 kilometre zone, turkish and russian joint patrol will begin. all ypg terrorists will be taken off this area together with their arms. now kurdish officials claim all their troops have left the area already — but turkey want to confirm that
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themselves — with russian help. remember, russia is an ally of the syrian president bashar al—assad. president assad in turn continues to offer support to "any group carrying out popular resistance against the turkish aggression". for these reasons, the turkey russia relationship is a delicate one. but the leaders were able to find a solution today. sarah rainsford is in sochi. help us understand what is being put into this deal, please. this is a deal that took the leaders of turkey and russia more than six hours to hammer out so it is a very complicated process, but this is what it has produced. 0ne single sheet that it boils down to, ten points of memorandum by which i would say, suits both turkey and russia extremely well. i think the
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key points in this memorandum is the status quo, the current situation in the summer turkish forces have mounted the military operation in the past couple of weeks, that status quo remain. the turkish troops and allied militias will remain on the ground and the kurdish militias are being forced back 30 columbus will remain outside of that zone. “— columbus will remain outside of that zone. —— kilometres. and that is where the syrian government troops, alongside russian military police will move into control the border and there will be given six days for the kurdish militias to leave and then russia and syrian troops will control ten km along the border area. soi control ten km along the border area. so i think that turkey for the moment and syrian and russian forces are splitting up that very keyboard or area where turkey says it wants
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the kurdish militias pushed back seeing them as a security threat to turkey. a complicated bill but would it boils down to is that turkey‘s military incursion will not expand beyond the area that they currently have been involved in. first, the americans and now the russians are assisting the turks and giving them what they want. what is vladimir putin's calculation and supporting them in this area was ? they believe he has a genuine security concern and they do talk about separatism and terrorism and that they recognise the concern about kurdish militias. in return i think what they're getting is something pretty big in that for its allies, to return to turkey that they have not been in for some yea rs, they have not been in for some years, predominantly kurdish areas in the northeast of syria will now
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have syrian government troops on big parts of the border and the ambition is to extend when i asked the defence minister of russia how long turkish troops would stay inside, but that was not even discussed during the meeting. but clearly, there will be an issue for the future, certainly wanting to take away from all of this is russia's role today. it is clear that russia is the force, the power to go to in syria now for any deals and it is here to russia that president erdogan came and started his military incursion but knew he could not go further without consulting with the russians. those of what he came here to do and other leaders of russia and turkey have come up with this deal that they hope will secure and stabilise that border zone. thank you for taking us through this, we appreciated. some state
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owned turkish news channels which we screen owned turkish news channels which we screen grabbed here, feature a countdown been featuring countdown clocks which have been looking ahead to the end of the ceasefire and what might happen. we're at that point now. for the latest on this here's aleem maqbool in irbil in iraq. you are right to say that by the introduction of the kurds already feel they have fulfilled their obligations under the initial cease—fire agreement and as many recall get in that they withdrew from this conflict zone of rome 120 km. so they felt they had already done that with this new agreement between russia and turkey says is that there will be patrols right along the turkish syria border and next week, the kurdish forces will
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have to withdraw from those areas as well. so i was inside that part of syria couple of days ago and spoke to members of the kurdish forces there and they felt resigned to doing essentially anything they were told right now simply to give civilians some respite from the terrible violence that they faced over the last week or so. so they have already withdrawn from those areas and it feels like they will withdraw from other areas as well. essentially they feel that turkey is getting their very objectives it sent out when it started its offensive into syria and the kurds feel that the international currency is reinforcing perky‘s ames. feel that the international currency is reinforcing perky's ames. more background on the syrian incident is
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on our website. donald tosca, president of the european council has followed his process of ratification of the withdrawal agreement. if you'rejustjoining us, he did that after being defeated in parliament on the timetable he set out to do it, donald tusk carries on: let us unpack all of that with adam who was with us from strasburg. you need to read that tweet very carefully and more carefully tha n tweet very carefully and more carefully than i did because when i first saw it i thought donald tusk was excepting the uk request for an extension into the end of january 2020 and other needs to happen is the procedural bit which she is now happy to do with the written form of e—mails than rather than having a special summit. he does not want to
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send them all back to create this extension, what is not so clear is the first i've because we look at what he is saying, he says he is excepting the principle of the uk request but not necessarily the date. the date is not set in stone and that is what donald tusk things should happen in with eu leaders, the other 27 prime ministers actually want to happen. there could bea actually want to happen. there could be a few spanners thrown in the work on this extension, for example, what are some leaders think the 31st of january next year is not the appropriate date it should be shorter than that or longer than that? and what if some of them think it is such an important decision that they do need to meet face—to—face and it should be generating. this is donald tusk starting a process. but that process will end and an extension into the 3ist will end and an extension into the 31st of january next year. if the uk
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is requesting an extension, is the eu obliged to grant that or nothing or tenant counteroffer? the eu could refuse the request but i would go against their policy of making sure they're not to blame for no—deal brexit and if i say no to extension request, the uk will leave and that isa request, the uk will leave and that is a cross next to that option. the counter option that they've done the passive theresa may, the president suggest they're quite happy to pick a date that is different than the one the uk proposes because they would rather pick a date there is more suitable for their purposes. for example, you tightly make the european commission was meant to be installed on the 1st of november and that was been delayed in the new commission is starting to the 1st of december and some may be the 30th of november could be more convenient for the eu.
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adam fleming, strasbourg. there will be quite a few updates in the coming hours and days. a shot of downing street and behind that famous black door, i think we can be certain that there is some brainstorming going on with the strategy should be based on a significant victory in the house of commons and a significant defeat. a public inquiry will be held to investigate the deaths of the victims of the 2017 manchester arena attack. the home secretary, priti patel says it's the best way for those who survived or lost loved ones, to ‘get answers.‘ she said she made the decision after considering advice from the coroner sirjohn saunders. twenty—two people were killed when salman abedi detonated a device at the end of an ariana grande concert. hundreds of others were injured in the bombing.
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the announcement of a public inquiry comes as abedi's younger brother, hashem abedi appeared at the old bailey, and pleaded not guilty to murder. 0ur north of england correspondent, judith moritz, is at the manchester arena for us and explains how we got to this point. there were two to be inquest held in this inquiry will replace those inquest because they agreed that some evidence from the police and mi five should be kept secret on the ground of national security. but as a result, it will be very difficult to hold an inquest known as the coroner who asked for a public inquiry because this may seem like a contradiction in terms as you'll be able to hear that inquest of that evidence himself in private behind closed doors. without those families and the public being present. the home secretary said that in granting the inquiry that this is an
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important step to affected to move on. and having spoke to some of the families and their lawyers, they say they are demanding complete candour from the authorities and they are frustrated at how long they say this is taken and they want the inquiry to begin as quickly as possible and i understand that it will get under way into the criminal proceedings, his trial is due to start injanuary next year and a public inquiry will follow after that. this is 0utside source live from the bbc newsroom. 0ur lead story. britain's prime minister, borisjohnson, has halted crucial legislation on brexit, after mps rejected his government's short timetable for parliament to consider it.
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lets continue of our coverage of brexit returning to westminster. plenty to get through here. let us see how we do. what are the chances of another referendum ? see how we do. what are the chances of another referendum? i've asked you that a few times over? yes, i think at the moment that i was asking chris of the independent group whether he still thought there would be support for referendum and he said that if they could get more time to negotiate the withdrawal agreement bill and various agreements to come forward and the bill could go off of the rails, support for the second referendum would start to grow again and i think that is a fairly optimistic reading of the situation because there has never been in parliament a majority for a second referendum and ido majority for a second referendum and i do not see it at the moment. there
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is not a majority in parliament for referendum but lots of people are going to get supercross with me and there were an awful lot of people out here protesting in favour of a set petit mexican referendum and omit the broader point that in a mostly philosophical —— second referendum. and many votive remained because they generally feel that what this bill contains is so different than what was promised by johnson and other leaders in 2016 and there will be, whether that turns into support for another referendum that seems unlikely, but i'm making a broader point on brexit that even if brexit happens, you have to have a government facing an uphill struggle and how small businesses feel about leaving the international community in the 48%. in the labour party the labour party
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is the one that is offering a referendum on any deal that they are negotiating and if you became a general election first, we would get a referendum because whatever deal is on, whether it's is theresa may's deal with this one, it will be put alongside remain option. the question i was wondering every heard about no dinner preparations, if no deal was a part of a tactic of the eu, where the preparing for a no brexit deal still after the deal is already done and after what is happened this evening? is a curious tactic at the moment because from what we just heard from donald tusk preparing to accept the request that is come from the uk parliament, that effectively ta kes is come from the uk parliament, that effectively takes no deal off the table and for the legislation, the prime minister was obliged to ask
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into january 31. prime minister was obliged to ask intojanuary 31. in prime minister was obliged to ask into january 31. in the immediate standpoint, 0ctober into january 31. in the immediate standpoint, october 31 is gone and i don't know how you get to a no deal under that scenario, it does not mean that it is gone for good because we look at the withdrawal agreement, there's not much detail about how parliament could stop the government if want to take the country out with a no deal with the free trade agreement was negotiated by december 2020. in the committee said that parliament must be able to make the government go back to ask foran make the government go back to ask for an extension if the negotiation does not come to fruition, rather thanit does not come to fruition, rather than it is currently sat down in the bill. i think that the issue with no deal, some of the governments would definitely prepare for than some of the governing party in business for brexit for thinking, if it has to be no deal to get brexit done, bring it on. but i think others in the government really did think goodness
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gracious, it might be so disruptive. politically we would not survive it. i think you both of you, —— i thank you both. when the published legislation, though usually assess the economic impact but they did not do that with this withdrawal agreement bill so when the treasury committee asked for one, the chancellor of the exchequer replied ina chancellor of the exchequer replied in a letter saying that ending brexit uncertainty is beneficial and went on to say that trusting in democracy and bringing into division characterize this debate cannot solely be measured by spreadsheets and impact
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let us think about the cost. you've had quite some time to digest it, but he think of theresa may's option versus remaining in the eu. there is no guarantee that will be able to stay in the customs union and there are so many manufacturers here in the uk that depend on exporting to the eu in a frictionless way and we have the entire service signed that is not covered by anything that has been said so farand covered by anything that has been said so far and even if there is a free—trade agreement at some point, services tend not to be covered in financial services in particular are not going to be a part of this, so it is working for businesses and the assessment is a very important issue. you referred to him, he was not just a previous issue. you referred to him, he was notjust a previous civil service, he was a head of the secretary ——
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head secretary of the treasury. he was a head of the secretary —— head secretary of the treasurym it easier to assess the short term then assess the long—term potential benefits as the uk realises its trading relationships?” benefits as the uk realises its trading relationships? i think that is true we do not know what those relationships are going to be at all, with the eu or with anyone else. but the truth is in the short—term, markets will be happy that the no deal possibilities are out of the question or lease looks like it's out of the question. businesses are going to be concerned that we may still get to a no deal at the end, particularly because there's not much time to negotiate a free—trade deal with the eu and already have a short transition period and we would, the uncertainty is going to be there and they do not like that. in terms of the cost to northern irish businesses, with a
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particular focus on the trade between northern ireland and the rest of the uk, how would you assess the proposals? in this particular scenario, you would have customs checks of the border so anything that comes in northern ireland into the uk would be subject to whatever their custom checks were going to have to have your in the uk, particularly from the customs union that exists in the eu since northern ireland is going to stay in it and the other problem with exporting things from there to us is that the regulatory alignment there is supposed after the eu under the previous arrangement disappears but stays in northern ireland and that matters hugely stop i can there were different reasons as to why it can shift the calculus for a lot of mps and people watching. you are right, the time to listen to evidence is long gone and what you are ready to see is that the ministers do not want to hear it.
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they do not want to listen in very often do not want to publish what they see. that is a very sad situation. i'm going to come back to the outside source screen, i want to show you this in the last couple of minutes of the programme, this is john burkle. the language the prime minister used was the process is paused. either way, it is not ongoing at the moment. so we will see where we get to with that. also we know that the french government has now indicated that it french government has now indicated thatitis french government has now indicated that it is really only interested in a short extension. you know emmanuel macron was resistant to extensions when theresa may last request one and that is one of the reasons why the deadline is the 31st and not later, so a lot of manoeuvring going on and in brussels as to what nature a brexit extension may take in
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tomorrow, i am talking to you. thank you for watching. hello there. we are still expecting high pressure to be shaping our weather into the beginning of next week, how we get there though, that bit of the story has changed a bit. wednesday is much the same though, we are seeing this weather front bring rain down from the northwest and another weather front weakens during the day, bringing rain in from the near continent. not a great deal of rain during the day at all, but certainly more cloud for the southeast of england up to the midlands and eventually towards lincolnshire and maybe one or two showers, no more than that. the rest of england and wales dry some sunshine, eastern scotland dry, western scotland turning wetter later in the day and for northern ireland, we are seeing some rain during the afternoon. together with some fairly brisk winds. those two weather fronts
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are going to meet across england heavier for a while and then those fronts weaken. so we are left with cloud and would start the day off for england and wales , some outbreaks of rain here and there. turning to slide away towards lincolnshire, east anglia in the southeast, elsewhere brightening up some sunshine with a few showers, most of the showers from northern ireland and boston scotland where they could be heavy infantry and accompanied by gusty winds and temperatures 12 to 15 degrees. this is where things have changed though, we have the low pressure bringing in windy weather across northern parts of the uk on friday and the weather front is approaching from the southwest. but while at one stage it looks like we're going to get into some warmer air, we are going to stay in the cooler air because the position of the rain has changed, along the weather front with developing a level of low pressure. the low pressure in northern scotland bring gales for a while but further south, the cloud they can see spilling into england and wales, up towards the borders northern ireland, into the cold air. temperatures on the 80 degrees in belfast and newcastle,
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across southern parts of england where it is not quite so wet, but it will be windy later on in the day. 0vernight, those winds will turn ease and which are left with is the weather front stuck with england and wales, thick cloud and outbreaks of rain and i will continue into saturday and with the heaviest of rain in england and wales, northwest of england, there will be some local flooding on saturday, with as much as 100 mm of rain. southeastern areas not seeing too much rain during the day, mildest of all, elsewhere it is turning cooler from the north and we will eventually see the back of that rain from the southeast of england on saturday night, we are going to give him the cooler air dried out from the north and there'll be some showers too. it looks like most of the shares to be pushed out into northern ireland and swept on across scotland towards northern england in north wales. to the south, probably dry and sunshine this time,
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will be cooler further north may be a touch wintry over the very top of the high ground in scotland. looking further ahead, there's our area of high—pressure, sitting to the west which is why we have drowned on this colder air on the northerly wind by the high—pressure pressures would be close by, we have also got low pressure developing over iberia and that is going to strengthen the winds through the english channel. around the top of this area of high pressure, we may well find some low pressure areas moving in across the middle part of the week to bring someone rain into northern ireland. the details may change but it looks like we will stay on the quarter side with temperatures eight to 11 degrees and some sunshine generally dry but wary of this clear skies overnight, there will be some frost around as well. 00:58:47,375 --> 4294966103:13:29,430 goodbye.
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