hello. it's thursday, it's 10 o'clock, i'm victoria derbyshire. police have raided two houses in northern ireland as part of their investigation in the deaths of 39 people in a refrigerated trailer in essex. as we've seen with this devastating case, the consequences of the total disregard for human life, whether thatis disregard for human life, whether that is a consequence of people smuggling potentially human trafficking and modern slavery. we'll be speaking to ali mustafaj, who made the journey to the uk, from albania, hidden in the back of a lorry, when he was 16. as her appeal against losing her british citizenship continues, a friend of shamima begum's family tells this priogramme exclusively she now believes it was a huge mistake for her to leave britain as a 15—year old to go and live

under islamic state. here's shamima begum talking to the bbc when she was found in a syrian refugee camp earlier this year. idid i did leave knowing it was a risk, but, you know, it is my fault right now and i just want forgiveness, really from the uk. we'll talk to former met chief dal babu, who says she is now full of regrets. an inventor who developed a ground breaking diabetes—testing kit using his daughter's toy microscope nearly a0 years ago has been awarded £2 million in compensation. just been awarded that. we'll find out why it's taken so long for him to be recognised for his invention. and we'll find out why coldplay revealed the tracks of their new album by taking out a classified ad in a local paper

next to adverts for a fridge freezer and a divan bed in north wales. hello. welcome to the programme. we're live until 11 this morning. do get in touch with us as always we welcome your input. should shamima begum get her british citizenship back after travelling to syria at the age of 15 to live under islamic state? we're talking to a family friend who says she should. because she is sorry. get in touch in the usual ways. first, annita mcveigh has the news. good morning. police are continuing to question a lorry driver over 39

people found dead in a refrigerated trailer in essex. the discovery early yesterday morning sparked one of the uk biggest‘s murder inquiries. police have raided two properties believed to be connected to the driver of the truck, who's been arrested on suspicion of murder. this matter has attracted national and international interest and it is imperative that the operation is conducted with the utmost respect for the 39 people who have lost their lives. downing street has dismissed reports of a split within the government over how to move forward with the brexit process and having an election ahead of christmas. with exactly a week until the uk is supposed to leave the european union, no 10 has indicated that borisjohnson will seek a snap election if the eu proposes delaying the brexit deadline untiljanuary. a bangladesh court has sentenced 16 people to death for the murder of a 19—year—old student who was set on fire after accusing her teacher of sexual harassment. the murder

of nusrat jahan rafi sparked outrage and protests across the country. the trial was one of the quickest in bangladesh, where previously it may have taken years to conclude. scientist and professor, ian shanks, has been awarded two million pounds in compensation by the uk's highest court for inventing a diabetes test nearly a0 years ago. the system to test blood sugar levels that is used by many diabetics while working for unilever in the 1980s. the rights to his invention belonged to the company and, until now, he was not entitled to a share of the benefits. finally, researchers in america are investigating the anxiety caused by back seat driving by putting rats in the driving seat. when rats drove where they wanted to go, they were less stressed than when scientists took control of the vehicles. much the same for all of us. back to you, victoria.

let's bring you the latest on the horrific story of the 39 people, including a teenager, who froze to death in the back of that refrigerated lorry container. essex police are right now trying to identify the bodies. the driver, 25—year—old mo robinson from northern ireland, has been arrested on suspicion of murder. the container arrived via ferry from zeebrugge in belgium into purfleet about half past midnight yesterday morning. that trailer was collected by mr robinson and his cab before arriving at the waterglade industrial park in grays. the death of these migrants has reignited the debate over the safety of people trying to cross into the uk. we will talk to various people about this and we welcome your input as well, particularly if you run a haulage firm, if you are a lorry driver who makes these trips abroad, from whichever port you are coming back to the uk. let's talk to a man who also came into the uk in the back of a lorry.

ali mustafaj made the journey to the uk from albania when he was 16. now aged 20 he's head chef at a british restaurant. andrew wallis runs the anti—trafficking charity unseen. tony smith, was director general of uk border force and stuart madden runs a lorry park in calais and mark burns—williamson, who is the national lead police and crime commissioner in modern slavery and human trafficking. thank you all very much for talking to us and ali, i will start you if i may. you left albania before your 16th birthday. why did you want to leave, first of all? it was just pa rt leave, first of all? it was just part of my horrific childhood, really. i didn't want to wish it on my worst enemy what i had gone through, you know?”

my worst enemy what i had gone through, you know? i would have liked to have had a normal life, as a normal person, may be as an english child, if i can put it that way. effectively you were treated poorly by your parents? mainly by my father. and why the uk, ali? it wasn't mainly the uk i was going for, but because i spoke a little english and did not speak any other languages, maybe that's why. you made your way from albania to italy and then to france will stop how? just by travelling. just by following other people. i was on the coach, on the way to italy and i met more people and ijust followed them, really. so you paid for a coach trip and you met a network of

people you travelled with? were you paying your way to get to the uk, or where you are relying on lifts or getting into the back of lorries or what? no, not really. ijust made my own way there, paying for tickets, not paying people. understood. you got to calais, spent three weeks there before you found a lorry that you could get into the back of. how did you do that? just by trying and guessing every night which lorry was going where and when. but what do you do? how do you get into the back of it? literally loads of other people were just climbing onto it and other people had knives and i slipped through the plastic covering on the lorry, so that's how it happens. what is it like inside a lorry? it's dark, it's a terrible

feeling and you don't know what has happened and what is going on. you don't know what you are going to do with your life. you could end up just the same as those people ended up. when you heard about these deaths yesterday, did it make you reflect on your own journey and the risks you had taken? yes. it flashed back, and it's really, really bad. it gives me a terrible feeling of what those people had to go through and it has been pretty bad, and it's that it could have been me as well. i will bring in stuart madden, who i’u ns i will bring in stuart madden, who runs a lorry park in calais. good

morning. in this particular case it is reported that the driver is self employed and he does not own his own cab, which is the front bit of the pictures we had seen, it has a bulgarian number plate and the driver was from another company mr robinson is thought to have connected the container from purfleet, so who is responsible for what is inside the container? in the end the person who is shipping the goods is responsible for ensuring the goods being shipped in an appropriate way, but equally the person who is transporting the goods is also responsible for ensuring the goods that the goods they are transporting comply with the appropriate paperwork and are the goods they are meant to be transporting. interesting, because it is reported that the driver picked up this container at purfleet and got to the industrial park in

minutes, but you are suggesting that the company you put the goods in the backin the company you put the goods in the back in the first place and put it in the ferry to zeebrugge are responsible. they are responsible for the goods on board, of course. you have a truck park with about 350 vehicles on it. how do you secure that and the vehicles? at our site the entire perimeter is fenced. can people not cut through that? the entire perimeter is fenced. can people not cut through that7m the entire perimeter is fenced. can people not cut through that? it can be done but it's difficult. the whole perimeter is surveyed by military grade cctv, so if there is any motion detected along the perimeter, the cctv cameras will detect that. with specially trained dog so it's an incredibly secure facility. has no one ever got into the back of one of your lorries in the back of one of your lorries in the lorry park? we have not had anybody get on board by going through the secure perimeter. what about the lorries arriving at the

park? now the camps in calais have been closed down people potentially like ali, trying to get into the back of lorries, they're not necessarily doing that, the lorries arriving at your park have people already inside them. that is the biggest challenge at the moment since the closing of the cameras. it's become more of a trojan horse issue with migrants already being on the vehicles and then we discover that the migrants have come from brussels and paris. we have a security check service at the site where we open up the trailers for customers and check that there are fio customers and check that there are no migrants actually on board before the vehicle leaves to make its journey to the uk. let's carry on this journey with tony smith the head of the uk border force under container coming like that from zeebrugge to purfleet, what happens, who is checking it? it is being checked electronically. what does that mean? we get data from the

shipping company transmitted to the targeting centre. it will tell us what is in their on what the container number is. what they say is in there or what is in there? what they say is in there and then we risk assess that. we could not stop every container that comes to the uk. let's imagine, sorry to interrupt, let's imagine you have a company filing electronically with a massive container full of frozen chicken, for example and you would see that on a screen and you would say yes, that looks pretty legit and not necessarily check it, would you? there is no difference between an electronic check and a physical check. we can shunt any vehicle into any place in the port and should search it if we want. what would raise the flag without giving too much detail we give a lot of data analysis and intelligence stop we have intelligence from various rogue agents in the supply chain. we have a nalysts agents in the supply chain. we have analysts in the border force who

will analyse traffic all the time, and that is what dictates and intervention, a physical intervention. which is literally opening the back doors? we can do that, and unpacking the whole thing which can take an entire day to go through a complete search, so we have to be selective and we do select and unfortunately this is rare in our experience that a refrigerated truck containing this numberof refrigerated truck containing this number of people in a container, it's a very rare incident indeed and only happened once or twice before in my experience. clearly the police are still in the early stages of investigation, but do you have a theory about what has happened here? i think we need to find the point of loading, the last point of loading andl loading, the last point of loading and i think that's going on and there is a good audit trail and i've just come from zeebrugge is where working with the belgian police and we want to find out when it's coming to the port and what security checks we re to the port and what security checks were done. they will be tying down a lot of information about the movement of the container. there's been some confusion between the

container and the that pulls it. they come from different places now, but the worry about the containers is that they can be left for long periods of time, unattended, in facilities or imports and that's why it's really dangerous because it's not regularly moving all of the time, so people might have been in there for some —— for some considerable time. they would not be able to open the back of the container. they would have to have help with that. that is why this is the worst form of smuggling in that you are locked in you cannot get out and there's nothing you can do about it and it's difficult to raise any alarm because you might be in a remote area and there is no one around. we had this in tilbury where we did find them, and fortunately there was only one fatality and the others were alive, but you rely a lot on the public and these are sealed containers, not designed for carrying people. if people were calling out, would somebody hear? carrying people. if people were calling out, would somebody hear7m depends where it is and who has raised the alarm. that is the real

worry with this type of traffic. andrew, bringing you in, ifi worry with this type of traffic. andrew, bringing you in, if i may, would people be paying thousands of pounds to get in the back of a container like this? yes, that is the story that we hear that the suspicion is that it is smuggling and there is a differentiator between smuggling and trafficking and smuggling is where you pay someone and smuggling is where you pay someone to get you illegally across the border and it's a crime against the border and it's a crime against the state and you pay the smugglers so the state and you pay the smugglers so it's a transaction from this point to this point because you want to get into this country. human trafficking is what then? it's a crime against the individual where you are deceived, you move them and then you are exploiting them. but this is a hugely profitable business and when these stories break, let's not forget that there are unreported stories and i think it was picked up in the media yesterday with taxi drivers reporting they were flagging them down near the docks, giving a

phone call to tell them where to get to and reports, we've seen it all over the country of people jumping out the back of lorries, so this is ongoing all the time. up to how much would an individual pay to get in the back of a lorry or container? some of the report say £10,000 or $10,000, but if you put into context for people getting in, those are life savings and it speaks of the desperation people have. they would risk that because conditions in their own country or families, as ali explained, and they need... if i understand it correctly, they need to get here illegally in order to then apply for some kind of official status. they cannot do it from calais or belgium. this taps into the bigger problem of how safe is it for people fleeing persecution or conflict. and needing to move

because there is no economic opportunities and they are moving from a dire situation and then moving into a situation that is incredibly risky to do and this is the outcome when it goes wrong and what is the motivation to do that. it is in that theyjust want what is the motivation to do that. it is in that they just want a better life, there is a huge push factor but also a pull factor in the rest of the world looks at it and the situation is appalling, and i wa nt to the situation is appalling, and i want to do that, and english is the low —— global language so it's no surprise that people want to come here. let me bring in mark burns williamson a police and crime commissioner lead on modern slavery, and we did have mr burns william warning earlier this year of the increase in gangs packing migrants, including children into the back of containers with the obvious risk to their life, so have we failed them?

good morning, victoria. firstly we need to recognise the desperate situation in essex that has been found and we clearly need to support the essex police and all the agencies to undertake this investigation and as we have been hearing, it's a very complex and not straightforward picture, so the nca did make some statements earlier this year and obviously this goes well beyond policing in terms of the border police, the immigration enforcement, the national crime agency themselves, so in a sense we have to redouble our efforts in terms of the multi—agency approach to protect victims from what clearly is exploitation on a huge scale. how do we go about doing that? there is some good work already under way but clearly more needs to be done and as

a police and crime commissioner taking the lead on this, we have set up taking the lead on this, we have set up regional anti—trafficking, so it's important to note that this is potentially smuggling of people, but nevertheless it is the total disregard for human beings and human life, so this is about effective multi—agency partnerships sharing intelligence, working together, not only in this country but internationally as well given the internationally as well given the international dimension of this particular incident. let me ask briefly and i'm not sure who is the right person to answer, so please anyone jump right person to answer, so please anyonejump in, but right person to answer, so please anyone jump in, but let's right person to answer, so please anyonejump in, but let's say right person to answer, so please anyone jump in, but let's say that container had been checked once it arrived in purfleet and those people had survived. so we bring out 39 people and we do not know what their nationality is, we know they are probably not british, let's assume that. so what happens to them? do we send them back where they came from?

what do we do with them?” send them back where they came from? what do we do with them? i am sure my colleague would want to say something about that. the first responders would make sure they are well and fit and healthy, and we had to lorry drops on the motorway last night there were not reported. how many people? to loads of about nine or ten. coming through dover. do you know what the nationalities of the people were? i don't. but it's a regular occurrence and that is the point to make and perhaps we don't hear about it, but it is regular numbers. what do you do with the people? we have first responders and we make sure they are safe and well and we take them through a local screening and we take them through a local screening process and we take them through a local screening process to try and identify them and find out where they have come from and where they are going on what their motivations and intentions are which often leads toa claim and intentions are which often leads to a claim for political asylum on the grounds they cannot be returned by the border force because there are other processes that need to ta ke are other processes that need to take place and then there is a bureaucratic process where they will be placed into care, which my

colleague could tell you more about that than me until such time as a final decision is made, but the point is that they will not normally be sent straight back which sends the message to the smugglers to say, ican the message to the smugglers to say, i can offer you passage to the uk, put you in a lorry and when you get found, you will not be sent straight back. you get an opportunity to apply for official status. very briefly, andrew. in the assessment if there is a suspicion they have been trafficked they would be offered to go to the national referral process. there are problems with that as well. lots of people don't want to go into the referral mechanism. they would rather go under the radar? there are other systems of support they can access. thank you to all of you. incredible insight. thank you for helping us understand. as her appeal against

losing her british citizenship continues, a friend of shamima begum's family tells this programme exclusively she now believes it was a huge mistake for her to leave britain as a 15 year old to go and live under islamic state. and why is one of the world's biggest bands revealing the tracks of their latest album in the classified ads in the north wales daily post. we'll find out. rose mcgowan has filed a lawsuit against harvey weinstein, his ex—lawyers and a private intelligence agency, accusing them of trying to silence her. the actor was one of the first people to accuse the move mogul of rape in 2017. she claims mr weinstein and his team conspired to discredit her after they heard she was writing a book. he is currently awaiting trial and denies all allegations of non—consensual sex. we spoke to rose mcgowan on this programme last year and she described the impact

of the alleged rape. it did a lot of damage. it still does. i think because his name is everywhere, because his face is everywhere, because his face is everywhere, it has not... i tell you, there's something very strange about having this kind of abstract envy about having this kind of abstract e nvy over about having this kind of abstract envy over another victim who does not have to see her perpetrator again. there's something really wrong with that frame of mind. and yet, that is the truth. my body, i went through a lot of years of night terrors and i could run for an hour andi terrors and i could run for an hour and i don't sweat but i would sweat all the way through to my mattress. and body flashbacks, and sound, and not being able to be in a small room with men, to not have somebody giant stand over me, looming over me

without kind of short—circuiting in a way. and i'm not the only one, that's the thing. when i speak to you here, and i don'tjust mean his victims, but i know there are so many out there and i think that is my gift and maybe my curse that i can hear them and i want to do something about it. in that interview, rose also claimed that harvey weinstein had tried to reach out to her. this was a month ago. you had a text from harvey weinstein a month ago? from somebody who works with him. on his behalf? on his behalf. what did it say? i shook. it was like a bullet once again. it was basically just kind of this person reaching out. i don't even understand what the point was. i can't understand

because the cat is out of the bag. i said it loud for years because what so said it loud for years because what so many people need to realise is that the shame is not ours. it is his. it is the shame of the perpetrator, not the victim. but what was the nature of the text? my guess is that it was essentially about like so and so wants you to... it was kind of like getting a hold of you, or the alluding to, i don't know why. it was completely insane, frankly. he wanted you to? harvey weinstein wanted to get in touch with you? it could have been some random person, but that would be a long shot. rose mcgowan talking to

us long shot. rose mcgowan talking to us last year and she has just filed to sue harvey weinstein. some breaking news on the programme, and this is really good news for people who have been desperate to get hold of the cystic fibrosis drug on the nhs. the nhs has agreed a deal to provide it and other life—saving cystic fibrosis drugs on the national health service. nhs england say today they have secured a definitive agreement with a pharmaceutical company to make available all of three of their cystic fibrosis medicines meaning patients will have access to 0rkambi and two other drugs, and we spoke to and two other drugs, and we spoke to a mother and her son who were desperate to get 0rkambi for free because it made such a difference to the quality of his life, and some

good news, because the nhs have agreed a deal to provide 0rkambi and life—saving cystic fibrosis drugs on the nhs. we will bring you reaction to that before the end of the programme. iam afraid that i must now focus on delivering brexit, in the difficult circumstances in which we find ourselves. i do hope you'll understand. best wishes, boris. the words of the prime minister in this handwritten letter to the head of the most powerful committee of the house of commons, explaining why he didnt have time to face cross examination by them this morning. it's the third time he's pulled out. this is the only committee that call the pm in this way. we asked no 10 for someone come on the show or even a statement. they said they did not want to provide either. dr sarah wollaston is head of that committee. she is now a lib dem mp having left the conservatives. and we'll also talk to pete wishart, an mp for the snp, who also sits on it as chair

of the scottish affairs commmitee. 0ur audience really want to learn more about the machinations of these committees. i want you to explain first of all, what is the point of your committee? this is the committee that all the select committee that all the select committee chair in parliament and it's the only one that can call the prime minister to give evidence, and the difference between this and prime minister's questions or a statement in the house where the primaries to get a one—off question that he can bat off, this is detailed follow—up questioning from people who have specialist knowledge of the subject, so it is a proper grilling and this is the third time he has cancelled. it's really not acceptable. i am going to play our audience a clip of a previous prime minister appearing before this particular committee, because i said, people want to learn more. let's have a look. this is theresa may in november last year being questioned by the labour mp, yvette

cooper. the rights that you and i had to live and work and love across a continent of 28 nations is going to be deprived to all young people because of your obsession with immigration. no. it's quite something when our own chancellor and bank of england government trashes the future of our country as pa rt trashes the future of our country as part of a propaganda exercise. that is not what is happening. the question i am asking you, is there planning going on for a different approach if the deal is defeated? this is the deal that has been negotiated and this is the deal that people need to focus on. knowing you for 20 years, ijust don't believe that if your deal goes down you are the kind of person who would contemplate taking this country into ano contemplate taking this country into a no deal situation. am i wrong? contemplate taking this country into a no deal situation. am i wrong7m would be a decision for parliament as to whether they accept the deal that i am the government have

negotiated. some excellent questions which i would have been proud to come up with! the hilary benn, yvette cooper, peter wishart. come up with! the hilary benn, yvette cooper, peterwishart. pete, what is your response to the prime minister concentrating on brexit? we saw from these clips are important sessions is. it gives a real opportunity to get to the heart of what the prime minister is intending and under repeated questions to get and under repeated questions to get a better sense of what to do. it is immensely disappointing that the sessions have been cancelled after two postponements from the prime minister. i bet with sarah at what point he would cancel because i didn't think he had any intention of coming to this committee. that letter that he wrote to sarah was nearly disrespectful, childish scroll. they might be very good at teaching classics at eton but they should work on their handwriting because it was barely legible. i

think it is a real disappointment to have proper questioning of this prime minister missed. he is really busy. he has said he has promised to appearand he busy. he has said he has promised to appear and he will one day but not right now. what is the problem? the problem is he has said he will do it in five or six months' time, after he became pro—minister. he is avoiding scrutiny. he has been prime minister for months and he has only appeared twice at pmqs. he had spent appeared twice at pmqs. he had spent a lot of time in the house of commons giving statements on brexit and taking interventions. he has done a number of interviews. can you convincingly say, hand on heart, he is avoiding scrutiny?” convincingly say, hand on heart, he is avoiding scrutiny? i can. we have been very prepared to be flexible, as he well knows. last time he cancelled the committee and instead he did 14 minutes of pre—submitted facetime alive interviews. he has had many opportunities to appear before us and we would be very flexible and timings because of course we accept he is very busy.

the point is that this is about a crucial time in this country's history making decisions that will affect us for generations, having the opportunity to be questioned on detailed points by committee specialists. he really should have turned up for that. pete wishart, what were your killer question to him going to be? i had a low expectation that he would arrive this morning. i want to ask him about scotland's constitutional status within the uk and what is happening to scotland with brexit and the arrangements for northern ireland, and they have this arrangement with the single market. detailed questions which we have no a nswer detailed questions which we have no answer to. yesterday in pmqs, he was able to dismiss it out of hand. in a situation like that, he is able to evade the scrutiny. i have several questions and i am pretty certain that my colleagues had a whole range of questions to put. this is a big media event, probably the most watched select committee session that there is in the house of

commons. the media analyse it tightly to see what is going on and it isa tightly to see what is going on and it is a real missed opportunity. this five months business is unacceptable. prime ministers have got to appear three times before this committee in the course of a year and this session is going to be missed. i know you have got to go. thank you. i know you have business questions. dr sarah wollaston, i wa nt to questions. dr sarah wollaston, i want to ask about the breaking news the nhs, as you are a gp as well. this is wonderful news. it is something that the health and social ca re something that the health and social care select committee which i also chair has been pressing for for some time, meeting with families, trying to press their text. we have evidence from nhs england, nice and vertex and i can't tell you how happy i am to hear that a deal has been reached for families. thank you. just to repeat the breaking news, which as sarah wollaston says is fantastic news for families, the

nhs have agreed a deal to provide 0rkambi and other life saving cystic fibrosis drugs on the nhs. there was an issue earlier that the drugs were too expensive for nhs england. but they have announced today that they have agreed an agreement with vertex pharmaceuticals to make available all three of their licensed cystic fibrosis medicines. we did a very moving interview with a mother and her little boy who needed it earlier this year and we will try and get reaction from them before 11 o'clock. now some breaking news about the lorry deaths on the industrial park in essex. the bbc understands that the nationality of the 39 people who died was chinese. the bbc understands that a 39 chinese nationals died in the back of that refrigerated lorry in essex.

we know that at least one of them was a teenager. thatjust coming in. the bbc understands the nationality of the people who died in that lorry was chinese. 39 chinese nationals dying in the back of that lorry. the lorry driver is still being questioned by police and the police are questioned by police and the police a re clearly questioned by police and the police are clearly continuing their investigation into the identities of those 39. should british mum shamima begum, who left britain as a 15—year—old to live under the rule of islamic state in syria, get her british citizenship back? removing it, which is what the home secretary did earlier this year, left her stateless and at risk of hanging, a court heard this week in her ongoing appeal against that decision to strip her of her citizenship.

her lawyer said ms begum, now 20, is in "an incredibly fragile and dangerous" position in a syrian refugee camp. after leaving london with two school friends, ms begum married an is fighter and has given birth to three chldren in syria, all of whom have died. the home office denies that the decision left her stateless. here she is talking to the bbc‘s middle east correspondent quentin sommerville in febuary of this year.

let's talk now to a friend of the shamima begum and herfamily, dal babu, who's a former met chief superintendent, who tells us exclusively that shamima begum now says leaving london was a huge mistake. what else does she say? she is full of regrets. she was a 15-year-old individual and she was groomed. she was on the internet and she was taken in by isis and the whole story. she realises now that it was all a load of rubbish and she was conned into going there. she went out there and in three years she had three babies. she was married to a man almost twice her age within days of arriving there. the sham marriage. she was 15 and he was in his mid—20s. she was sexually abused and she is in a very fragile state. her solicitor is very concerned about her welfare and so it is her family. there will be a suspicion from some watching you now that she is saying this now because she wants to return to britain. she wants to win this appeal against her british

citizenship being removed and that is why she is saying it is a huge mistake. when you have individuals who are abused, and she was abused, and individuals who are groomed, they don't understand what is going on, and with the passage of time it gives an opportunity to reflect on where they are. she has gone from a sta ble where they are. she has gone from a stable family background in the fifth richest country in the world, family and friends that she enjoyed being wed, to a war—torn country. but as we saw in that clip with our correspondent, when she was discovered in a refugee camp in syria, she did not say it was a huge mistake and she was full of regrets. farfrom mistake and she was full of regrets. far from it. i'm afraid he was traumatised at that point. she has said that the people in the camp have been paid forjournalists to come along. journalists are paying people in the camp. people are

knocking on her door when she was having a baby, in labour, journalists were knocking on the door to interview her. you have got to remember this is a 19—year—old girl. not particularly academic, not very bright, just being used by isis, and now she is in that camp and she knows that if she says the wrong thing, if she said something against isis in that camp, she will have her throat cut and she is fully aware of that. the court is a high court, a special immigration... i'm sorry, i've written down the full name. a special immigration appeals court. the court is being asked to determine whether the decision to deprive her of her citizenship rendered the applicant stateless. the home office said the decision does not because she is a british bangladeshi heritage, and she is therefore not stateless. her parents are from bangladesh. her parents are

from a small region where the main language is bengali, which he doesn't speak and she has never been to bangladesh. but she is not stateless. she could go there. she can't because the bangladeshi government have already said if she comes there, she will be subject to the court system and being beheaded. that is exactly what they said. she is effectively stateless. the idea that she would go to bangladesh and bangladesh would want somebody who was groomed on our watch is fanciful. maria emails to state that shamima begum is only full of regret because she has had her british citizenship removed and if she regretted her action she would have said that when first interviewed. she should not be allowed back into britain. she made her bed and she shed light on it. and this one: no way should she be allowed back. it would set a precedent. and this one: the british authorities let her down

in the first place and she remains our responsibility, as are all those children still out there in north—east syria. the hearing continues and i understand the judgment will be reserved, meaning we will not get it for a while. thank you for coming on the programme. a friend of the begum family. an inventor who developed a pioneering system for diabetics to test their blood sugar levels using his daughter's toy microscope nearly 40 years ago has been awarded £2 million by the uk's highest court. professor ian shanks developed the system while working for unilever in the 1980s. the rights to his invention belonged to the company and until now he wasn't entitled to a share of the benefits. let's talk to clair curran who is an patent lawyer, and vikki tierney, whose seven—year—old daughterjessica is diabetic and has benefited

from professor shanks' invention. tell us about this invention. i am hoping you have got it right there so we can see it. i don't. she is at school! oh, she had it with her at school? she has got to have it with her all the time. can you explain it to the audience then? it is basically a metre and i put a blood sugar strip basically a metre and i put a blood sugarstrip in, and i have basically a metre and i put a blood sugar strip in, and i have got to prick herfinger, put sugar strip in, and i have got to prick her finger, put the blood sugar strip in, and i have got to prick herfinger, put the blood on it, and that will monitor and tell me how much glucose is in her blood, and it gives me her blood sugar reading. and how important is it to your daughter and to you as her mother to have this? extremely important. type one diabetes is a life—threatening disease really, so ifi life—threatening disease really, so if i did not monitor her blood sugar asi if i did not monitor her blood sugar as i have got to with this machine, she could potentially die. it really isa she could potentially die. it really is a life—saving invention. let me

bring in our lawyer. why has professor shanks onlyjust bring in our lawyer. why has professor shanks only just received this compensation now when he invented it back in the 80s? this has been a legal battle for 13 years. it has been decided by the supreme court, the highest court in the uk, and it can't be appealed. it has had to go through the various levels of legal wrangling. the high court, the court of appeal and now the supreme court. that is why it had taken so long. i am not quite sure when he started the case that it is not unexpected for it to take this long. for most of our audience, it just sounds utterly this long. for most of our audience, itjust sounds utterly bizarre and also unfair that he has not been able to benefit from this. under the uk patent act in this country, if you are employed to invent, like professor shanks, it is your normal duties, and you are considered from your salary and bonuses to have been

rewarded for that invention and you have the pride in it and you are named on the patent. there are very few schemes to reward you in other ways and there are very few cases that have been heard in the uk courts about this. it can seem unfair, because you get blockbuster drugs and you just get your wage. it is normal in the uk and this might open the floodgates for other inventors to try and do something now. that is interesting. he first applied for compensation in 2006. we wa nted applied for compensation in 2006. we wanted to talk to professor shanks but he was not available. if it applied for compensation in 2006 and he loved every step in his legal battle until it reached the supreme court, the highest court in the land. —— he lost every step. they unanimously ruled that he had provided his former employer with an outstanding benefit for which he should now receive compensation. a professor shanks happened to be watching you right now, what would you say to him? just thank you! it

is just amazing what he has done. he deserves what he has got. thank you very much, both of you. we appreciate your time. flicking through the classified ads for a fridge freezer or a divan bed in your local paper, you wouldn't expect to come across this — news of the tracks of the long—awaited new album from the biggest—selling british band of the 21st century. coldplay‘s advert was in the north wales daily post which is based in flintshire, where lead guitarist jonny buckland grew up. hopefully we are going to play some music by coldplay that we haven't got it yet. we will get it. don't worry. let's talk to the editor of the north wales edition of the daily post, andy campbell. hello. how are you? who spotted this? none of us did, to be honest.

it was a fairly understated, innocuous advert in the classified section. somebody phoned us up in the late afternoon, a private caller, they didn't say who they were, and they pointed out that the advert had been put in the paper and it had not been anywhere else, just in our paper. it turns out it had beenin in our paper. it turns out it had been ina in our paper. it turns out it had been in a couple of others but that is what they told us. we don't know who it was? maybe somebody from the record company. it is clever marketing, it really is, and it has got great publicity. we phoned up the record company and eventually they confirmed that it was a world exclusive announcement in the classified section of the daily post. we are going to show the advert again. you say that somebody phoned you up and it could have been chris martin orjonny, who once had a holidayjob there, according to this post, selling holiday houses,

and he wasn't very good at it. it could have been somebody from coldplay. 0h, could have been somebody from coldplay. oh, my goodness. we have lost him. i'm back! what was the question? it was so long and boring but i will ask it again! it could have been chris martin orjonny that used to work at the daily post. yes, former employee, former colleague! said he tweeted the link to the story ad and that he had had a holiday job at the story ad and that he had had a holidayjob at the daily post putting pictures on our holiday houses and he wasn't very good at it. he could have been working there with me. it is lovely that they chose the daily post and jonny must have an affection for a newspaper that he grew up with and once worked for. do you not remember him, jonny buckland? no. he wasn't a star at

the time, was he? he may have worked ina the time, was he? he may have worked in a different office. we had a number of offices at that time. i don't remember him. he said it was a holiday job so he don't remember him. he said it was a holidayjob so he was probably only there for a short time, maybe 20 yea rs there for a short time, maybe 20 years ago. thank you very much. we appreciate you giving us the time. cheers. you are welcome. the editor of the daily post in north wales. as we've been reporting, three life—extending drugs are to be made available on the nhs to people with cystic fibrosis. let's get reaction from christina walker who we had on our show most recently in february. she said 0rkambi would be life—changing for her son luis. hello, christina. how do you react to this breaking news this morning? i can't stop smiling. 0verwhelmingly happy. more hopeful for the

i can't stop smiling. 0verwhelmingly happy. more hopefulfor the future than i have ever been. yes, absolutely wonderful. very grateful and very happy. and how will luis react? probably very pleased that he doesn't have to do any more letters and campaigning because it has been pretty excessive for the last couple of years. did you know about this in advance? did you have any steer that the nhs were about to announce this deal with the pharmaceutical company involved? we knew from the house of commons select committee. simon stevens gave an enormous end. he said he was confident on monday. the whole community has been on tender hooks ever since. it is great to haveit hooks ever since. it is great to have it so soon. i'm looking at the time scales, people should be on the job by christmas. it is the best christmas present we could have hoped for. let me play you a little bit of luis because i want to show him to our viewers. he was on the

programme before. it is really sad and really annoying. i wish i could just have a normal life without having to do so much physio and take tablets. that was luis and yourself talking to joanna earlier this tablets. that was luis and yourself talking tojoanna earlier this year. you look pretty emotional hearing that. it has set me off! apologies if you can hear the banging in the back. that just sums if you can hear the banging in the back. thatjust sums it up, really. he won't be able to come off all his madison straightaway. this. the condition getting much worse and it will arrest the decline. —— he will not be able to come up all his medicine straightaway. this will stop the condition getting much worse. some people have come off the medicine straightaway. this is the only medicine that can tackle the root cause of his condition and we

have waited since he was born to get the diagnosis that it is incurable and we can only treat the symptoms. and then to wait four years for this drug, it is the only thing that needs to be said today, that very sadly people have died in that time who could have lived longer and i just urge that lessons are learned from this. so that this is not allowed to go on for so long again. not for patients. it is not fair. todayis not for patients. it is not fair. today is a really happy day. that is a really important point to make, that some people sadly will not benefit from this. i wonder if you could explain to our audience exactly what cystic fibrosis is and how it can affect people like your little boy. it is a genetic fault. you are born with it. it creates a fault in the cell channel in your body which leads to thick mucus. ——

salt channel. there are different parts of the body with more mucus than others, the lungs, sinuses, pancreas. and it is a breeding ground for bacteria, their repeated infections. and as people get older, and this is what we really hope the drugs will help to prevent, and it looks like they will, as people get older, they develop cystic fibrosis —related diabetes, bone density problems, liver disease, all of these things related to the body not functioning properly. 0r these things related to the body not functioning properly. or can be and the later drug even more so help the body to function even better. —— 0rkambi. that means people can live better for longer. it will have a big impact on life. 60% less hospitalisations, 40% less lung infections, and luis has a lung infections, and luis has a lung infection that he contracted two yea rs infection that he contracted two years ago which is resistant to antibiotics and he is still being treated for that. it will prevent

40% of those types of infections, which has a big impact on patients. what does it mean for him in the medium term, do you think? this deal with nhs england. from what i have heard from other people, the drugs seem heard from other people, the drugs seem to be well tolerated in children and we are really hoping that will be the case for luis. i am hoping and expecting to see a quick easing in his ability to breathe. people seem to be hungrier and they get more energy. at the moment it is a battle to get luis to eat and he is very tired. when he runs around with his friends, he can't keep up with his friends, he can't keep up with them through sheer determination but it was about much more. all those things seem to be improved fairly quickly with or can be. the real benefit comes in the long term, when you are not getting all these affections and its macro infections that put you in hospital for a month and cause irreversible

damage every time. it is a cumulative effect of things with cystic fibrosis that eventually leads to early death in people. the true benefits of preventing those will only be seen in time and we hope they are as good as we wish them to be. that is another point that actually the best drug is another one that vertex have just got licensable, called the triple therapy. and we need to get that in a shorter time than four years. we are coming to the end of the programme but what you have just told us is that this deal between the pharmaceutical company and nhs england means that your little boy will have a much improved quality of life and he will live longer. that is massive. that is why we have been fighting so hard and why so many people have put in so much effort and families across the country are

hugging their children with renewed hope that we have never had before. it is amazing and life changing and i thank everyone involved. well done to you as well. thank you so much for coming on the programme. thank you for having me on. not at all and best wishes for luis as well. you can see how happy and emotional she was. thank you for your company today. bbc newsroom live is coming up next. thank you for your company today. good morning. it has been a rather misty and make you start to the day with some drizzle across england and wales. —— misty and murky. that is clearing away and skies are clearing up clearing away and skies are clearing up across western areas clearing away and skies are clearing up across western areas but the rain

becomes heavier and more persistent across eastern parts of england this afternoon. showers spreading south eastwards a cross afternoon. showers spreading south eastwards across scotland and northern ireland but some sunny spells in western areas with gales in the far west of scotland and temperatures 11 to 14. the rain clears away overnight and there will be wintry showers across scotland with colder air filtering be wintry showers across scotland with colder airfiltering in here. temperatures close to freezing in many northern areas. there south, temperatures staying at eight to ten. 0n temperatures staying at eight to ten. on friday, rain spreads into many parts of england and wales, particularly heavy in wales and northern areas of england. 0n saturday that will continue. there could be flooding issues and travel disruption in wales, northern england and the south—west of england and the south—west of england into saturday. goodbye for now.

you're watching bbc newsroom live. it's11am and these are the main stories, this morning. as investigations continue, it's believed the 39 people — found dead, in the back of a refrigerated lorry, in essex, yesterday — were chinese nationals. the number of people carrying knives and other weapons in england and wales hits a record high. will the pm push for a general election, or focus on getting his brexit deal through parliament? as reports of a cabinet split, over how to move forward with brexit are dismissed. research finds people, with long term health conditions, are more likely to suffer pain on days when it's humid or windy. the royal british legion's poppy appeal gets under way. your mission?