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hello, i'm ros atkins, this is outside source. borisjohnson says he's going to try for a general election in december. it's time, frankly, that the opposition summoned up the nerve to submit themselves to the judgment of our collective boss — which is the people of the uk. but to do so, he'll need the support of the opposition. here's what labour's leader is saying. i've been calling for an election ever since the last one, because this country needs one in order to deal with all the social injustice issues. but no deal must be taken off the table. we'll have the latest on the 39 people found who were found dead in a lorry in eastern england on tuesday. police say they were all chinese. 44 years afer his death,
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spain has moved the remains of dictator francisco franco from a huge mausoleum. we'll report on the controversy around that. and we'll be hearing from us vice president mike pence — he's accused the nba and nike of kowtowing to communist china. let's begin today's programme by delving into the recent past. i'd rather be dead in a ditch. so you would resign first, prime minister, rather than go and ask for that delay? look — i really — it costs £1 billion a month, it achieves absolutely nothing. what on earth is the point of further delay? well, that delay that borisjohnson said he wouldn't let happen is going to happen. he said the uk would leave the eu
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on 31 october "do or die... deal or no deal" — but that promise isn't going to be kept. instead, the prime minister wants an election on 12 december, with time in advance for parliament to consider his brexit deal. here he is talking to the bbc. now we've got a good deal on brexit — as you know, for the first time in two—and—a—half years, parliament voted to endorse a way out of the eu, the deal i was able to do with our friends and partners. —— three and a half years. but unfortunately, they also voted to delay the final approval of that deal they endorsed. and what that means, i'm afraid, is that that delay could go on for a very, very long time. so it looks as though our eu friends will respond to parliament's request by having an extension, which i really don't want at all. so the way to get this done, the way to get brexit done, is to be reasonable with parliament. and say that if they genuinely
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want more time to study this excellent deal, they can have it — but they have to agree to a general election on 12 december. remember, though, for an election to happen, two—thirds of parliament must support it. that can't happen without votes from the opposition. labour may indeed feel they wouldn't gain very much from this offer. britain is set to leave the eu on 31 october, meaning that when borisjohnson brought back a new brexit deal from brussels, there was never going to be very much time for mps to debate and scrutinise it. and when the government tried to push it through even faster, mps voted to put the brakes on the bill saying they wanted more time. today, the prime minister wrote to the labour leaderjeremy corbyn saying if he agreed to an election the government will make available "all possible time" to debate the withdrawal agreement between now and 6 november — that's the date parliament would need to be
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dissolved, for there to be an election campaign through to 12 december. but that's only six days beyond the 31st. a lot less time than many bills that go through parliament take. some ta ke go through parliament take. some take months. despite that, the labour leader certainly hasn't ruled out accepting the prime ministers‘ offer. here he is. take no deal off the table, and we absolutely support an election. i've been calling for an election ever since the last one because this country needs one in order to deal with all the social injustice issues. but no deal must be taken off the table. though to be clear, if there is a vote on monday on a 12 december general election, what will you tell labour mps to do? tomorrow, the european union will decide whether there will be an extension granted or not. that extension will obviously encompass whether there is a no deal or not. let's find that out tomorrow. jeremy corbyn there suggesting
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the decision tomorrow by the eu on whether to grant the british government's request for an extension would determine whether labourjudges that no deal is off the table. but right after that, he said something else too. at what point do we know that no deal is off the table? no deal is a threat that borisjohnson has been using all along. indeed, it's included in his legislation that is before parliament at the moment. i should add is not entirely sure whether the eu will decide on a break that extension tomorrow. we thought it would, but there is some question against that. helen catt is in westminster. let's begin with labour. it can be ha rd to let's begin with labour. it can be hard to pinpoint its definition of taking no deal off the table? absolutely, and it will be crucial certainly open to this point, they've been talking about in terms of that idea of taking a no—deal brexit off the table, which is what the eu granting an extension would
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effectively do. because at this point in time, the legal position is a no—deal brexit next thursday. but the eu agreeing to any form of extension would stop that. that clip you've just played there seems to be pointing towards this idea that some opposition mps have been talking out ofa opposition mps have been talking out of a trap door to no deal within the withdrawal agreement, which is effectively when you get to the end of the implementation period in december next year, if disagreement is agreed, they think there are no current safeguards to stop us leaving without some sort of agreement or trade deal at the end of next year. hopefully this becomes clearer once we get that extension offer from the clearer once we get that extension offerfrom the eu clearer once we get that extension offer from the eu as to what labour is thinking on this. let me bring up a tweet from ian martin who is in favour of brexit. he says...
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helen, do you think borisjohnson has left himself in a situation where he's not in total control the outcome? the bottom line is he is not in control of when he can have an election. that is down to parliament because of fixed—term parliaments act. until two thirds of mps parliaments act. until two thirds of m ps vote parliaments act. until two thirds of mps vote for it or are there other ways he can go through parliament, a majority of mps will have to vote foran majority of mps will have to vote for an election. he effectively can't do anything. now the interesting thing we've heard him say today is to give this idea that the government will effectively go on strike for a few weeks, and just day after day, keep bringing motions foran day after day, keep bringing motions for an election until he gets one. so as you said, it doesn't look like -it so as you said, it doesn't look like — it looks like he may be stuck here, and the bottom line is he needs to get the opposition support on some point if he wants election. brexit is dominating british politics to such an extent that a vote on the government's queen's speech — its legislative agenda — wasn't taking centre stage earlier, mps voted it through — but this is largely academic
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as the government wants an election, and has no working majority so struggles to get any new policies through. i guess this leaves those in a funny situation where parliament isn't functioning in any way now? usually for context, the queen's beach is where the government sets out its plans and domestic agenda for the whole rest of parliament. but this one has gone pretty much largely unnoticed in the background, and thatis unnoticed in the background, and that is because you are having this in the context of a government saying we want to end this government and start a new one. so it is almost impossible to note what if any of this agenda could go through, particularly when it is a government that doesn't have a majority, so it cannot guarantying get anything through parliament at all. so it is a very strange situation that parliament currently finds itself in. thank you very much indeed. labour party are waiting for
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for the eu's decision, some sources in brussels say they may wait for theissue in brussels say they may wait for the issue of an election to be settled. my goodness, that is a reasonably symbolic situation as for the general malaise of the brexit process. turning to the other story dominating news in the uk. 39 people found dead in the back of this lorry in essex yesterday are believed to be chinese. we're told there were eight women and 31 men. we also know mo robinson, the alledged driver of the truck, will remain in police custody. here is essex police saying... mo robinson is from county armagh in northern ireland. police have raided three houses there. here's the national crime agency saying... still no confirmation on whether this is a case of people smuggling, but essex police say it's the largest murder
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investigation in its history. this investigation already involves at least five countries. i've mentioned the uk and that the people came from china. we also know the lorry was registered in bulgaria to a company owned by an irish woman, but that it hasn't been back to bulgaria since 2017. the refrigerated container arrived in zeebrugge, in belgium, at 2.30pm on tuesday afternoon. it travelled across the channel, and arrived at purfleet, a port on the thames, just after midnight. the lorry collected the container just after 1am. a0 minutes later, ambulance officers discoverered the victims while the container was in an industrial park. police say the tractor unit — the front part of the lorry — entered the country via holyhead in wales on sunday, having
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travelled from dublin. this story has echoes of a tragedy 19 years ago on when 58 chinese migrants were suffocated to death in this lorry at dover in the south east of england. then, it took months for some of them to be identified. and that truck had also arrived from zeebrugge in belgium. since then, checks at major ports have been increased, but smaller ports, like purfleet and zeebrugge, are more vulnerable to people smuggling. this is an official from the uk's immigration services union explaining why. we don't have the facility to check the vast majority of freight which arrives in the uk, whether it moves or not. but it certainly is the case that disconnected freight containers, which are then transported separately, are somewhat less likely, unless we have intelligence to the contrary that suggest we need to do that.
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but we don't have the facilities and we don't have the space to check every single arriving container in the uk. that is hundreds of thousands of pieces every day. and what about the security at zeebreggue port, where the container carrying the people came from? anna holligan is there. well, this is just tiny section of water at a sprawling port. and a proximally 4,000 containers travel from here in zeebrugge over to the uk every single day, containing things like cars and natural gases. but it is also a hotspot for people smuggling. and in fact, we've just heard reports that another group of migrants have been detained at trying to climb into a compound owned by one trucking company. it is such an issue here. the uk has two border force teams permanently based here at the port of zeebrugge. in terms of security here at the harbour, the harbourmaster told the bbc that trucks coming into the port are filmed, the driver identified. if they have canvas tops,
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then the use c02 scanners, detectors to see if there's anyone inside. but that isn't something that is done as standard practice with these sealed containers. and of course, these 39 people were inside a refrigerated, sealed container, which explains why it was impossible for them to escape. there are many factors which drive migration — poverty in the developing world being one. thousands of people from china try every year to reach europe in the hope of a better life, and they do so legally and illegally. here's celia hatton, bbc‘s asia pacific editor. we don't know the motivations to explain why 39 chinese nationals might have a container truck bound through belgium, bound for the uk. but what we do know is that there is
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a long history of people smuggling, well organised crime networks that operate to take people outside of mainland china and put them in low—wage jobs around the world. the us state department estimates that around 100,000 people or smuggled out of china every year to around 60 countries around the world — often there put to work, forced to work in low—wagejobs. in china, some of these people are desperate. the chinese economy has seen a sustained downturn, exacerbated by the us— china trade war. that downturn in the economy is affecting some of china's poorest people, and that has really led to desperation in the search of employment. so sometimes people smugglers approach very poor chinese people, charging them around $50,000 us to give them forged documents and a route to a job
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overseas. when those people arrive at their destination, they often realise that they have to pay the money right then, which has led to violence in the past. and often those people are forest into labour in quitea those people are forest into labour in quite a few dangerous and on policed industries. stay with us on out policed industries. side source. still to come: this is the coffin of the spanish dictator francisco franco — his body has been exhumed and reburied after 44 years of debate. thousands of people are expected to arrive at australia's uluru for their final chance to climb it before a ban kicks in on saturday. formerly known as ayers rock, it's a sacred spot for indigenous people, who have implored people not to climb it for decades — but hundreds have made their way to the summit today. something we've wanted to do for
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yea rs, something we've wanted to do for years, and it would be unfortunate if we didn't do it. yeah, while we have the opportunity. it is closing down so i wanted to be the last one up down so i wanted to be the last one up there in. i got up there suckering it was spiritual up there, and my boyfriend did propose there, isa and my boyfriend did propose there, is a pretty good experience. and my boyfriend did propose there, is a pretty good experiencelj and my boyfriend did propose there, is a pretty good experience. i think it isa is a pretty good experience. i think it is a very unique place. probably one of the best i've seen so far. personally i feel that today is... not respecting such a specific places. this is outside source live from the bbc newsroom. our lead story... the british prime minister has called for mps to back an early general election in december. so far, opposition parties are saying "no".
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here are some of the main stories from bbc world service. these are live shots from chile where protests are going on for second day. they're over inequality — and they've frequently been violent. the un human rights council is now sending a special mission there. that's from bbc mundo. in bangladesh, 16 people have been sentenced to death for the murder of a student set on fire after accusing her teacher of sexual harassment. nusrat jahan rafi was just 19 when she was attacked in april. that's on bbc bangla. the spanish dictator francisco franco died 44 years ago. today, his remains were moved from the valley of the fallen — which is a national monument — to a family vault at a cemetery in madrid. these are the pictures.
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the coffin was put into a helicopter. only a priest, forensic expert, justice minister, and 22 descendants were allowed to attend the event. a crane was needed to lift 1,500 kilograms of concrete that covered the coffin. this is the valley of the fallen — for franco supporters, it has been a shrine and place of pilgrimage. more than 30,000 bodies from both sides of the spanish civil war are still buried there. prisoners of war were made to help build the monument. this is the cemetery — north of madrid where has been reburied next to his late wife. and here you can see protesters outside the cemetery — franco supporters are angry about the reburial — as are local residents. the relocation of franco's remains fulfils a pledge of the socialist government. it said spain should not continue to glorify a fascist. here's the acting
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prime minister today. translation: the mausoleum of the valley of the fallen was built with the sacrifice of thousands of political prisoners of the dictatorship. the mausoleum also houses remains of almost 311,000 compatriots there, all victims of the civil war. the reopening of the valley will symbolise something very different. the memory of a pain that should never be repeated, and a tribute to all the victims of hate. thank you. an el mundo poll this month said 43% supported the move, with 32.5% against, and the rest undecided. franco's family had challenged the reburial in the courts but were unsuccessful. here's his grandson speaking ahead of today's events. i feel rage that it's been used as propaganda and publicity for the very next elections. descendants of franco's victims pushed for the relocation.
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here's one former political prisoner. translation: it was time to move him. we've waited several decades for franco to disappear from this monument, which in and of itself, was the shame of spain. all the dictators of franco's ilk — hitler and mussolini — have vanished from europe and were not honoured with statues. the truth is the contradiction was obvious between a democracy and a monument dedicated to the cult of a man who was the opposite of democratic. here's journalistjennifer o'mahony who was outside the cemetery today. i spoke to her a few minutes ago.|j spent most of the morning in the afternoon outside the cemetery. we obviously saw the arrival of the helicopter, the hearse and the members of the franco family going into the cemetery. but the rest was com pletely into the cemetery. but the rest was
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completely closed off. it was an intimate and private similarity as the government had promised to the family. what we had not anticipated perhaps so strongly was that the large group of franco supporters who position themselves is just down the road from the cemetery and saying franco era anthems, brandished flags, and in some cases fascist paraphernalia, as well. they were very vocal in their criticism of the government and eager to inform everybody present that they were not happy with this decision. given that franco was a dictator, given that he oversaw many abuses of power, what did his supporters say in his defence? well, it depends. some of them believe that the past should be left in the past, so there is no point in stirring old ghosts, that franco is dead and society has moved
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on. others go much further than that, saying that touching his coffin is a desecration. they refer to the prime minister is someone who has desecrated the corpse of franco. some of them see franco's rightful place as in the valley of the fallen, others are less bothered than that, theyjust don't like the way this has been done. and still, others don't like the fact that taxpayer's money has been used to do this, that is a point they taxpayer's money has been used to do this, that is a point- taxpayer's money has been used to do this, that is a point left, what are raised. one minute left, what are locals who live near the cemetery making of this? i did speak to one man who lived nearby, and he told me that he actually thought this was a good thing, that this would detoxify the valley and allow the victims there to rest in peace without the fascist pilgrimages we've seen over the past few years. he told me he thought franco would end up being forgotten in the cemetery.
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us vice—president mike pence has made a scathing attack on both the nba and nike, accusing them of kowtowing to china and what he describes as its efforts to curtail the freedoms of people in hong kong. take a listen. nike promotes itself as a so—called social justice champion. but when it comes to hong kong, it prefers checking its social conscience at the door. nike stores in china actually removed their houston rockets merchandise from their shelves to join the chinese government in protest against the rockets' general manager's seven word tweet, which read, "fight for freedom, stand with hong kong". samira hussain in new york. this is part of a broader battle between the trump administration and
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nike, it strikes me? it is certainly a broader battle between the trump administration and chinese officials as they continue this 15 month trade war. they are trying to geek out some sort of agreement. but in the process , we some sort of agreement. but in the process, we are seeing some sort of agreement. but in the process, we are seeing what happened over the comments made on twitter by the owner of the houston rockets and the owner of the houston rockets and the spill—over that has had has really ruffled feathers here. it is pretty interesting to see mike pence, after some pretty iconic american companies or associations. the nba and nike. and remind me of the nba's position on its senior staff passing comment on what's happened in hong kong?m staff passing comment on what's happened in hong kong? it was a difficult position. you have the houston rockets, the basketball team, and you saw the owner tweeting in support of these hong kong
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protesters. chinese officials were extremely angry and we saw that they did not want to air any nba games in china, and we also saw that there is pressure being put on the nba to actually have this gentleman removed from his position. now the nba's head, adam silver, did not bow to that kind of pressure. but itjust kind of goes to show you the struggles and the thin line that these companies need to walk when operating in china. thank you very much indeed. i have 45 seconds left to tell you... scientists in the us have been monitoring rats driving cars. stay with me. we're told rats which drove themselves were less stressed than rats in vehicles being controlled by the scientists. no word on how rats in vehicles were being driven by other rats. that's on the bbc news website. far more serious matters coming up
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after the break, we have the latest edition of brexiteers asked tv for you. hello there. we've had heavy bricks of rainfor hello there. we've had heavy bricks of rain for some today, that's all cleared out. but following in its place is much colder air which is arriving at moments across the north and west of the country. notice that it should stay mild for another day 01’ it should stay mild for another day or two for many of us in the south. the weather picture tonight will see that colder air feeding across northern ireland, scotland and northern england. as well as that, we will see mixtures of cold spells and showers. but the showers will have a wintry tinge to them over scotland, we could see snow here for a time. but in the south, it is relatively mild. big temperature contrast, if frost setting in place across northern areas of the uk, which could lead to some icy stretches where we see overnight showers. in the south, still mild with temperatures holding up at
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around 10—12dc for some of us. the dividing line between the mild air and coolair is dividing line between the mild air and cool air is as with the front here, which will be spreading into bring somewhat weather through our day on friday through parts of england and wales. friday promises to bea england and wales. friday promises to be a wet and windy day wherever you are across the north and west of the country, it will be a case of sunny spells and blustery showers. further south, outbreaks of rain turning steady and heavy through the date also across wales and england, the southeast stays dry. mild in the south, 16 celsius for cardiff and london, but a chilly eight celsius for edinburgh and belfast. throughout friday night into saturday, it continues to put that moisture into the hills. the high ground in wales, the peaks and the pen ines will see some large rainfall totals building up, which means we could see some localised flooding issues building and as we head to the first part of the weekend. saturday itself, our weather front is with us initially.
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slow to move southeast of england, but eventually turning wet. further north, another day of sunny spells and blustery showers, through the afternoon it might only be five celsius at 4pm in hall and newcastle. still mild her torso southeast of england. but by sunday as the clock had spat, that extra hour could be spent under a warm duvet because that chilly weather will be coming in. a few showers around coastal areas in the north in the east. that's your weather.
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the latest edition of brexit cast. i am this is really big. the embassy in brussels for the withdrawal agreement bill in german and it is. iam going agreement bill in german and it is. i am going to go one further and say if you are bored of it by now, you would have to say: would have for the non—german speakers, there is also a picture of elmo, the sesame street character shrugging
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his shoulders. on with the show. i was having a quiet day. had a cup of tea. it was my demand business. the brexit bill, the withdrawal agreement bill had been paused,

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