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as you work foremost temperatures, as you work foremost in england and wales, 9—11, a bit cold in scotland, only seven in aberdeen and edinburgh. beyond that, it is chaotic on tuesday and that is referred to as the butterfly effect andi referred to as the butterfly effect and i have a good example. two different scenarios could evolve for tuesday. one is more of the same, dry and sunny, cold and frosty, a few showers affecting some coasts with a chilly east or north—easterly wind. there was a different scenario that sees an area of low pressure on tuesday forming which brings wet and windy conditions and the difference between the scenarios starts off in a small weight because this area of moisture, the orange, some models keep it away from the uk, some bring it closer in but it is a small difference but the significance is that in the first scenario, the moisture stays away from the jet strea m moisture stays away from the jet stream whereas in the second, it interacts with the jet stream and
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then through a feedback process, we can then through a feedback process, we ca n start then through a feedback process, we can start to see the low pressure forming and that will bring wet and windy conditions that would push northwards across the uk on tuesday and wednesday. what starts out as a small difference between the models, that chaos can go to give us a very different scenario but as to which one comes out, we are not sure but you will have to stay tuned. hello — this is bbc news. we'll be taking a look at tomorrow morning's papers in a moment — first the headlines. boris johnson issues an ultimatum to parliament — saying it can have more time to debate brexit — if it agrees to a general election on december the 12th. its time, frankly, that the opposition summed up the nerve to submit themselves to the judgment of oui’ submit themselves to the judgment of our collective bass, which is the
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people of the uk. i've been calling foran people of the uk. i've been calling for an election ever since the last one because this country needs one in orderto one because this country needs one in order to deal with all of the social injustice issues. but "no deal" must be taken off the table. police say they believe the 39 people found dead in a refrigerated lorry in essex were all chinese — forensic teams are preparing to remove the bodies from the container. for the first time cystic fibrosis patients in england will have access to a life—extending drug on the nhs after a deal is reached with the pharmaceutical company. a british man who fought with kurdish militia against the islamic state group has been convicted of a terrorism offence following a retrial.
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hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. with me are rachel cunliffe, who's the comment and features editor at cityam, and the assistant editor for the new statesman, george eaton. esteemed company, thank you very much for being with us. yes, it's brexit once again dominating the front pages. the metro leading with the prime minister's — brexmas — that's his call for an election on december 12th, announced today. the telegraph calls it boris johnson's plea to ‘end this nightmare', as he ‘challenges' labour to let the people have their say. in the financial times, ‘end the deadlock‘ — the prime minister says tojeremy corbyn, as he calls for a vote. the independent leads with the same story, saying opposition parties plan to block the borisjohnson's attempt to go to the polls. and in the guardian, the prime minister's plea for mp‘s
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to back his election after abandoning his ‘do or die' pledge to leave on october 31st. something different in the express, ‘thank you for saving our lives — with pictures of the children and parents to benefit from a new drug for people with cystic fibrosis as the nhs finally agrees a deal with its manufacturer. it's already available in scotland, by the way. those are our front pages, let's go through them in a bit more detail. let's start with the times. we have the selection called, borisjohnson wants it on the 12th of december. it's up to labour, effectively, or the opposition, to go along with it under the fixed terms act because it needs to of mps. what do you think labour are going to do? the times says labour in chaos over this. you have contradictory signals. the first was from jeremy corbyn in a
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broadcast interview where he said he wa nts broadcast interview where he said he wants an election, always wanted one since the last one in 2017. perhaps unsurprising for the opposition. but "no deal" must be taken off the table. and what he means by that is the eu have to agree a brexit extension until the end of january. simultaneously you have had the labour chief whip tell labour mps, many of whom are very much opposed to an election, are frankly quite terrified by one given some of the polling, given the tories have a double—digit lead, he, nick brown, said to labour, you can abstain. it's clear some will vote against. borisjohnson it's clear some will vote against. boris johnson needs it's clear some will vote against. borisjohnson needs 434 mp5 to back an election motion and he cannot do that without getting a significant bit of support from labour. bottom line, we are not going to have an election on the 12th of december, is that right? not by the fixed-term parliaments act, probably. as george says, there are factions in labour,
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so says, there are factions in labour, so obviously corbyn isn't worried about losing his seat, it is islington north, my constituency, where he has had majorities for many decades. maybe his faction can manage to get the numbers through. but the snp, lib dems, and the dup have said they won't. the options are, then, the government could try and pass a single line billjust to get this election through. or the government could call a vote of no confidence in itself, which would probably be a great metaphor for how brexit has gone for the last couple of years. but it is all complicated by the fact the eu are now saying they were going to give the answer tomorrow, and we were going to find out, but they have now said they won't tell us until we've had this vote. both sides, all sides, watching very closely to see who blinks first. quite weird, we are looking to the eu, they are looking to us. it's a catch 22! the eu won't grantan to us. it's a catch 22! the eu won't grant an extension until we have decided whether we want an election. we won't decide whether we want an
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election until they can tell us if we can have an extension! it's quite farcical. but we are where we have been since the brexit referendum, is that mps cannot decide on what they are for. most can decide on what they are against. most mps don't wa nt to they are against. most mps don't want to leave, most don't want a general election, and they have not been able to agree on what they do want. and this nightmare, that is what boris johnson want. and this nightmare, that is what borisjohnson told want. and this nightmare, that is what boris johnson told jeremy corbyn. —— end this nightmare. jeremy corbyn says "no deal" must be off the table, but when might that be? potentially never. parliament asked for the end ofjanuary. they could still be a no—deal brexit after that. under the terms of boris johnson's deal, the end of 2021... 2020, may become it could get negotiated again. there are many
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cliff edges involved. jeremy corbyn likes campaigning a lot. i cannot see what is in it for labour. the polls look terrible for them at the moment. borisjohnson polls look terrible for them at the moment. boris johnson leads polls look terrible for them at the moment. borisjohnson leads over jeremy corbyn, twice as much, in terms of support. doesn't look great for the conservatives, either, terms of support. doesn't look great forthe conservatives, either, it's going to be quite close, there won't bea going to be quite close, there won't be a massive majority. the longer labour stops boris johnson having be a massive majority. the longer labour stops borisjohnson having a general election, the more he looks like he will miss the deadline, the more he looks like the prime minister who failed on the one thing he promised which was to get britain out of the eu. there are a lot of benefits for labour in waiting are not many for it right now. waiting is loss —— are waiting as long as possible. yes. lets have a look at the cartoon, no room here for a polling station at christmas, you'll have to use the stable! it would be the 1st of december election getting
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on for a century. yes, i think the last was in 1918. it would be unusual. we are much more used to elections in the spring. it'll be interesting how it goes down with the electorate. because at that time of year peoples thoughts are probably turning to christmas shopping, and enjoying the office party, not who they are going to vote for. and certainly you would have the sun setting around 3:30pm in some parts of the country, so campaigning would be even more arduous than normal. there is also this perception that voters don't wa nt this perception that voters don't wantan this perception that voters don't want an election. everybody wants to remember the famed brenda from bristol, oh, notanother one! but the recent polling from you glove showed that the public are in favour of it two to one. they actually want one for once. the polls are suggesting. there is no doubt we have become a more political country because the brexit story has animated so many. since we are on
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poles, a delta poll was out this week which showed this idea that the public thinks boris johnson can just get this through either by the 31st of october, obviously not, or by the end of the year, is sort of delusional. the vast majority think it won't be solved by the end of this year. a majority of people think it won't be solved by the end of next year. 31% of people think it'll never be sold. i think the country is fed up of this parliament. but there isn't a naivete that it is all magically going to get fixed. —— it'll never be solved. and the metro has the prime minister once a brexmas election. school halls are pressed into serving as polling stations instead of nativity play venues. that is one way to get parents to stop voting for you, cancelling
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school nativity plays. this story says most voters think violence against mps says most voters think violence against mp5 is a price worth paying to get their way on brexit, according to a study, what do you make of that? this is a disturbing study. 71% of leave voters. you can recall the horrific death ofjoe fox in 2016. -- recall the horrific death ofjoe fox in 2016. ——jo recall the horrific death ofjoe fox in 2016. —— jo fox. recall the horrific death ofjoe fox in 2016. ——jo fox. politics has become more intense and radicalised. you have seen become more intense and radicalised. you have seen some become more intense and radicalised. you have seen some campaigns which have been quite violent. but how do you define violence? some would say throwing a milkshake at nigel farage is violent, others would say it is a bit of fun. but how do they define getting their way? what's the outcome? even on an abstract level, the mere idea of violence against mps the mere idea of violence against mp5 is the mere idea of violence against mps isa the mere idea of violence against mp5 is a disturbing one in the sense that you would have hoped for the
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reverse result. when you've had something like thejo fox incident, which mps had warned for years that they were getting increase death threats, increasingly toxic culture around social media. you would have hoped, if anything, voters would be taking a more reflective balanced approach. we had the whole debate about language. the use of militaristic language like the surrender act and so on. yes i think language is really important because you are always going to get some eccentric individuals who hear inflammatory language, maybe they would have acted anyway, but it's a trigger for them. also it is focusing a bit on leave voters in this particular poll. but we saw the harassment ofjacob this particular poll. but we saw the harassment of jacob rees this particular poll. but we saw the harassment ofjacob rees mogg and his son when they went to parliament oi'i his son when they went to parliament on saturday. that public anger has somehow become acceptable to certainly shout at your mps, which isa certainly shout at your mps, which is a form of verbal abuse, some would say. the other thing this poll
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says, as well as the violence, they asked questions on the break—up of the uk. a majority, this astounded me, a majority of respondents in england, wales, and scotland all said that they thought brexit would lead to the break—up of the uk. and a high majority of leave voters said it was a price worth paying. the idea that this will be sorted, that we will establish a new relationship with the eu, then everything will go back to normal, i think this is actually more concerning. let us move with that thought away from brexit and go to some of the other stories. this horrific story about essex and the 39 people found dead in the back of the refrigerated lorry. it turns out they were chinese nationals. the mirror have said that chinese gangsters were feared to be behind these deaths. we don't know the evidence they have cited. but is that a viable theory,
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do you think? there have been previous cases involving this gang. they use all sorts of methods. and often for lucrative rewards. they've been involved in a previous case when 58 chinese migrants were found deadin when 58 chinese migrants were found dead ina when 58 chinese migrants were found dead in a lorry in 2000 in dover. money had been paid to this gang. people smuggling. border issues. these are recurring features. this does link to the current debate around immigration because, of course, you will have some potential opportunities like this after brexit. will things change after this? i think we have a lot more on out this? i think we have a lot more on our political minds at the moment. this is a tragedy and we should look carefully at it but if i'm honest and a couple of days it'll be out of the news, unfortunately. -- in a
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couple of days. this story about franco, the fascist dictator of spain, and his remains being exhumed, that in the financial times. this is a really interesting story. the socialist government in spain are fulfilling one of their promises that if it were elected it would dig up the remains of franco from this very grand state cemetery where he is buried, and rebury him somewhere less ceremonial, less grand. asa somewhere less ceremonial, less grand. as a way to show, in their minds, that spain has moved on from that period, although it is relatively recent in its history. what it has actually done is rekindle the conflict of that history. you have got his coffin there being held by family members. there have been protesters. digging up there have been protesters. digging upa there have been protesters. digging up a body is something very emotive. if there is one thing guaranteed to get both sides reanimated about the
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issues that led to that conflict in the first place, it is kind of reminding everyone, because spain hasn't quite dealt with that period in its history. and, so... if i was the government of spain, this isn't necessarily what i would be focused oi'i necessarily what i would be focused on at the moment. george, has this stirred everything up, or is it the right thing to do? i think it's the right thing to do? i think it's the right thing to do? i think it's the right thing to do in the fact that i think it is a repudiation of this rather grand ceremonial burial place he had in a state built mausoleum. and it is distancing spain's present from its past. it is a statement by pedro sanchez that we have transformed spain from a fascist dictatorship into a democratic country. but it is much more fraught in the context of an election. spain will have its second general election this year next month. and it does have a growing far right party, as well, so it is complex. complex and interesting, yes. rachel, the express, they have a
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good news story amongst all of the horrific news and confusing news from westminster, as well. this is about the cystic fibrosis. and this drug which seems to help cystic fibrosis sufferers. it dramatically extends their lives and believes their systems, and it is going to be available on nhs. it is very expensive, the drug, and the nhs has had a really hard time of negotiations with the company that produces it. it is part of a wider question which is, if you want companies to invest huge amounts of time and money, takes a decade to bring a new drug to market, those drugs will probably be quite expensive, particularly if they are drugs which don't... which are not
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particularly commercialised.” drugs which don't... which are not particularly commercialised. i think it is 100,000 per person per year. there will always be a struggle as to what the nhs can pay for, what individuals pay for, how companies are motivated to producing these drugs, whilst making sure when they are produced they reach the patients that need them. it's a debate about the choices the nhs has to make in terms of expensive medicines and relatively few patients, and a lot of money being spent on them. yes. the nhs is facing huge funding pressures . the nhs is facing huge funding pressures. some of it is because of an ageing population. and the rise of chronic conditions. at the other is the huge costs of these new treatments which become available and which can be transformative. this drug doesn'tjust tackle the symptoms of cystic fibrosis, and some of the causes, it is transformative. they say they have negotiated a better price than 100,000 per patient, but the amount
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is confidential. the issue of nhs funding is an incredibly serious one. it's gone through the longest period of its austerity —— maker of austerity in its history. —— it's gone through the longest period of austerity in its history. the life expectancy is 32. there was a patient in the news he was 30, and for them it was amazing news, and it is going to extend her life. now, some lose about one of my colleagues. huw grit! brave bbc man chases burglar in his pyjamas! we are all brave. have you ever done this? no, but let's hear about huw.
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he chased a burglar down the street. there are reports about him being in good shape, he's gone to the gym, he's lost some weight. i don't know who this source is, maybe you could find out where this information has come from. the burglar still got away with the car. but i don't think i would chase a burglar down the street. barth edwards. the inside feature has him with, well, a seminaked torso. —— buff edwards. yes, apparently he has been taking lessons with a former professional boxer, clinton mckenzie. there is a quote from his wife underneath, we had a robbery, but i don't really wa nt to had a robbery, but i don't really want to comment on it. she is perhaps more dubious about huw‘s reported transformation. is this on the bbc website front page yet, that's what i want to know? it should be. he was apparently wearing his pyjamas when he chased this villain down the street. maybe you
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can get the inside story. are there pictures? i don't know. we did look for huw in the newsroom earlier, could not find him. next time i see himi could not find him. next time i see him i will quiz him on your behalf. good. thank you both for reviewing tomorrow's papers. good to see both of you. that's it for the papers tonight. don't forget you can see the front pages of the papers online on the bbc news website. it's all there for you 7 days a week at bbc.co.uk/papers. and if you miss the programme any evening, you can watch it later on bbc iplayer. a big thank you to my guests this evening rachel and george, and from all of us, goodnight. a round—up now of the top
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sports stories today. celtic stunned by staying top of their group at the halfway point. rangers also impressed with a draw in porto. with celtic beginning the evening top of the group there was plenty for fans to sing about. even with a visit to lazio confidence was high. ryan christie's effort from range reflected that, against the post, as close as they would get in the first half. lancia went into the break ahead. lazzari finishing an excellent move. —— lazio went into the break ahead. but ryan christie scored on 67 minutes. christopher julian put celtic in front for the first time. fraser forster the hero,
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getting them a famous win. —— christopherjullien. rangers fans we re christopherjullien. rangers fans were enjoying soaking up the sunshine in portugal. ranges were inches from going ahead. a warning, perhaps, but what came next was unstoppable. a quite brilliant goal from diaz. in a first half of near perfect symmetry, rangers eventually found their own way through, first via the frame of the goal, their warning shots, before morelos equalised in wonderful style. his tenth goal in 11 europa league games this season. he should have added to that remarkable record in the second half, but won one it finished, rangers with plenty to be pleased about. arsenal looked destined for defeat
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at home. they trail to— one with ten minutes to go until they were brought level of a free kick by pepe. unai emery said his players showed good spirit to come back after the first half. two goals in the space of five minutes, and a penalty from rael m&s. things were soured with a sending off three minutes from time. manchester united did just about enough to see off partizan belgrade did just about enough to see off pa rtizan belgrade in did just about enough to see off partizan belgrade in serbia. united go top of their group after three games. of course i'm happy now that we canjust look games. of course i'm happy now that we can just look forward to the next one. build some momentum. we need to win away from home in the league. but another clean sheet, which is great and that gives you a platform
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to win games from. liam williams has been ruled out of wales's semifinal against south africa on sunday with an ankle injury he picked up in training. he had been expected to start against the springboks. england face defending champions new zealand on saturday, theirfirst world cup semifinal since 2007. eddiejones has recalled george ford. that means owen farrell switches back to inside centre with henry slade missing out. that all of your sport. more on the bbc sport website, including lewis hamilton talking climate change, social media, and the possibility of winning a sixth formula 1 title. from all of us at the bbc sports centre, have a very good night. there is a battle between cold and mild airtaking there is a battle between cold and mild air taking place across the uk at the moment to see which winds for the weekend, spoiler, the cold air winds. it's already in place over
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the northern half of the uk. over the northern half of the uk. over the dividing line, some of us are about to see a lot of rain from the moors of south—west england to wales, and it is the pennines as well, which sticks around, only finally pushing away later on saturday. as we start friday, that cold air is in place for scotland, northern ireland and northern england, a touch of frost folsom of us. england, a touch of frost folsom of us. in northern scotland it is a mild —— a touch of frost for some of us mild —— a touch of frost for some of us in northern areas, it is milder the further south you are. the uk top and tail by strengthening winds, coastal gales in the north and south, and lots of hill fog down towards the south—west of england with this mild air. you can see the temperature contrasts across the uk. into saturday morning, the rain still falling, on the hills we could see something up to this, lower
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levels won't see as much as this, but there is a flood risk from it. there are some weather warnings in force, details on the website. there could be some disruption as a result. always good to keep in touch with your bbc local radio stations. it'll still be raining saturday morning. northern ireland come into scotland, clearer skies, especially the further north you are. some showers wintry on hills. a really mild start for the south and south—east of england. the rain moves away from those wettest parts of england and wales on saturday, into east anglia, and south west england. that cold air will move ever further southwards, just clinging on to the mild air by the end of saturday afternoon into the south—east. there goes the weather front taking the rain away on saturday night into sunday. blue has taken over. on the flip side, although it'll feel colder, but not bitterly cold, look at this showing
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hello. welcome to newsday. i'm rico hizon in singapore — the headlines... police in britain begin the process of moving the bodies of 39 people — believed to be from china — found dead in a refrigerated lorry outside london. america's vice—president attacks china over diplomacy — trade — and the way it violates the rights of the people of hong kong. i'm ben bland in london. also in the programme... borisjohnson calls on the british parliament to back an early general election in december — in return for more time to debate his brexit deal. it is time frankly that the opposition summed up the nerve to
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