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had numerous minutes of applause as over the last few months, the last one for one of the young fan group who took their own life and the fans did the thunderclap. it was in memory of him and it was almost a celebration of his life. it was like spine tingling but also really sad as well. that that young lad will never be able to experience that again. thunderclaps. cheering. bagpipes play. that young pan was lloyd welsh. less than three months after his death, and his family at their home, just a mile and a half from the stadium, they are still son them eckstein from sudden loss. —— they are still stunned by the sudden loss. we would use to go to games regularly and i would have him up at 8m. one of the big headlights ——
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highlights of his life was watching motherwell. did he ever speak to any of you guys, did he ever give any hands that he was not feeling himself or anything like that? i think over the last couple of years, we noticed a slight change in his attitude and you know he used to go out all the time, you know and then it starts staying in his room, playing the playstation all the time and would not go out and we just thought... that he had enough of that kind of life, that sort of thing. we do not think anything was going to happen to our son. i was here and i told him i was going up the street and i was only going, a quick thing about doing so he'll be in the house a0 minutes and when i came back the house was quiet and i went up to the top of the stairs and that devastating sight that i had seen, i fell down the stairs and ran down the street screaming to find anyone like that is bad but to find my own son, you think there must be something in his head that had him do that, that destroyed me.
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to the family it is like he left without warning. but really he had been growing steadily isolated from them, spending hours a day alone in his room. after finding him upstairs, she could not look at home in the same way any more. but the garden helps her to remember. you feel coming out here helps? i am out here every day, i sit on the swing and i set out here and i talked to him. what about you 7 i look at the window, you know... i can take it or leave it to be quite honest with you, i am dealing with it in a different kind of way but it doesn't bother me. i thinkjust remembering about it all the time makes it a wee bit harder for me. i will never forget him but when it is in your face, i don't... iam upset i am upset that way, i like looking at it. it's a shame.
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he will never be forgotten, not in this household anyway. that is for sure. rory, how are you doing? cheers, thank you. there is still a huge stigma if you are a man talking with mental health problems or are talking about stress and we need to challenge that and continue to challenge it. there has been huge strides forward in the last 20 years and i have been working in the field but we still have so far to go, so far to go because men are still reluctant to seek help, and then are still reluctant to actually reach out and that moment of crisis. three years ago it happened, the first time, to one of my friends. lloyd's brotherjordan plays for a local team.
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he is surrounded by suicide. there have been four connected just to his team in recent years. it is a common thing but it should not be a common thing. it is happening far too often. the when it happens on a couple of occasions, you see the consequences it leaves behind. motherwell wear armbands for paul gared, their former goalkeeper. watching the game as his mother catherine. he was very much a bubbly chap, maybe a touch spoiled, i do not know, very sporty. but above all, i think his first love is dean martin. a smooth kind of character? absolutely, but a quiet lad, he never seem to get into trouble or anything like that so this came totally out of the blue. i do not know where it came from.
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pg was 23 at the time of his suicide in the months before his life had been at a turning point. he was moving into a flat. he was going to be a dad and went through a lot of changes that pg went on at that time. maybe he was a bit scared about the future, i do not know. i never moved into the house that we were going to move into, when the baby came it was brilliant but at the same time, even still when i was in the hospital i was thinking where is he? like... you should be here for this. and then i think i found it hard enough, and to look at the baby first because you think days she look like him? and it was hard for people coming up to the hospital to see this baby and the family and you can
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see they are visibly upset because everybody is thinking he should be here and he wasn't. i don't know for some reason if he just thought he couldn't speak to anyone. when something like this happens everyone says was he depressed, was there any signs that he was suicidal or anything like that and there was an. i talk about it because i can and i have been impacted by it but i certainly feel that some people are still awkward around me, you know because of what has happened they think... what will i say to her? will i mention it or not mention it because with suicide it is such a complicated grief, it is notjust a brief man. because if pg was killed in a car crash or some things i think if he was murdered and it would be easier because i would have somebody else to blame. there is no one else to blame for this. how does that make you feel?
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angry. absolutely angry. ifeelangry at him. i am devastated. i will never see him again, i get angry that i could never... he will never be able to... account for what he has done. i feel embarrassed and ashamed, that is part of it as well because personally ijust think i feel that he has caused so much pain to his loved ones. his daughter is growing up without ever meeting her dad. still, you love him? oh i love him. ican i can say what i like about that... that is unconditional and it is so hard knowing you are never going to see him again, ever. like lloyd, pg gave no warning before he killed himself. he left nothing to explain why. neither catherine nor
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naomi have the answers. research shows that all suicides have one main thing in common. suicide is not about wanting to die necessarily, it is wanting the pain to an end. you feel trapped in this unbearable mental pain and the only way i can get relief is by ending my life. that internal entrapment is actually at the heart of thinking about the suicidal mind and the vulnerability of what drives an individual to actually think about suicide and then sadly take their own life. and we can understand better the drivers to that suicidal crisis, the drivers to entrapment, we can hopefully save many more lives. for deaths linked to just one football team in less than three years. research suggests that knowing someone who has killed themselves can heighten your own risk of suicide.
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here, the deaths of those lads were part of a 45% rise last year. that is just one year and we do not know if it is part of a longer—term trend. but why have more young men in this area killed themselves? to explore this i have come to a neighbouring town also dealing with suicide amongst their younger population. this is where i grew up. it isjust the same as any small town in the central belt. i think if you go in any town of this size that has lost its industry, you will see the same problems, a lot of charity shops, a lot of very little economic activity. something has been happening here. this old bank building is now occupied by a group
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of volunteers. a financial institution replaced by a suicide charity in a town in economic decline. the on—call —— they are on call 2a hours a day to get counselling to those affected by suicide or those considering it. they see hundreds of people a month. they see hundreds of people a month. the charity is called chris's house. she started it for years after her son took his own life. i became very ill. i felt such a failure. overwhelmed with guilt because i cannot save my son's. overwhelming guilt that i must‘ve been a terrible mother that my son did not tell me how bad he felt. ijust knew there had to be something, and neither had to be something immediately and the
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whole aim was to stop people dying from suicide, to stop people feeling undervalued on nhs waiting lists. that is not... please understand thatis that is not... please understand that is not a criticism of the nhs, it is just the overwhelming amount of people that need help. the weight to receive help is ten weeks. those who feel they cannot wait come to chris's house. they very rarely come in and say i am suicidal, they say my mum asked me to come here. the whole thing is, even if they come in the door, they are asking for help, say you halfway there. i am not going to beat about the bush, they
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come wanting support to get themselves throughout the rest of their life. women are more likely than men to ask for that support. at chris's house, astonjust finished than men to ask for that support. at chris's house, aston just finished a counselling session. i was 14 or 15 andl counselling session. i was 14 or 15 and i was going and getting help and it wasjust... there was nothing really there for me and they say ta ke really there for me and they say take these tablets and there is no support. in 2017 i had a breakdown and actually tried to take my own life. basically when that night happened i was at my friend's house and he went out and ijust stayed and he went out and ijust stayed and and had a dream that night and it was something that... it was my time to go and actually did not do it but my friend arrived back early and found me and saved my life basically. talk to me about your
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dad? my dad was a very... he was not quiet and very close in on himself and thought he was a typical dad, a big strong man. he wasjust always there. and i didn't know at that time he was also ill and ijust thought that he would protect me and look after me... but he was struggling with his mental health. he was feeling the same as you? but nobody had any idea at all and i came from them home from work and he had taken his own life. i came back to chris's house because i would not let my self go down that role and i wanted to help people and i wanted to show people that you can come back from it. she survived but how did something that is statistically
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rare, a suicide attempt happened twice in one family within a year. could closeness be a factor. for teenage boys took their own lives and the local paper described it as and the local paper described it as an epidemic. murray was the last of him. me being me, i tried to tell him. me being me, i tried to tell him that if he feels he does not fit m, him that if he feels he does not fit in, and makes them unique and makes him lovable and that is what makes them stand out from everybody else. ido them stand out from everybody else. i do not think he knew the words to say how he was feeling or what was going on. i tried really hard but againi going on. i tried really hard but
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again i think being his mum that is just too close. my heart is broken, i asked how he was feeling but doug and he told me he is feeling fine. tried stopping someone else going through what we have as a family. near where he died, she left mementos, messages of love and hope, as her own method of suicide prevention. d think this is part of the way of trying to get some meaning or goodness out of what happened to him? i need to find something out of him dying. it helps
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as well to get... some people in the area want to move on and complained to the council about some of her signs. a few weeks after we filmed with her, they were taken down. there are connections here. three weeks before he died, his friend, 16—year—old callum took his own life and the same place. hello, how are you getting on? i am all right. my name is xiao and dominic shannon brown and i am the sister of callum.
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we kind of drifted apart when my mum died and he moved house and obviously i moved here but it was always at once a week visiting. you mentioned your mum dying so tell me what happened and how that affected him? my brother went to wake my mum up him? my brother went to wake my mum up from her bed to go to school and she had passed away during the night so she had passed away during the night so callum was obviously by himself andl so callum was obviously by himself and i think that played a big part in it because he obviously felt guilty not being able to save my mum. callum, like pg had been drinking before his death. research shows alcohol and substance abuse could heighten the risk of those venerable to suicide. but there is another factor and callum's death. weeks before he died, his childhood
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friend also killed himself. talent, he was obviously one of a number in that time. the full place was devastating because each little wee bit of community there is someone suffering a loss and it was just a horrible time but in i think it is kind of brought all of the people that are grieving and stuff together because, we all obviously understand what each had are feeling. —— what each other are feeling. mary new callu m each other are feeling. mary new callum who knew someone else and for teenagers and a town of 30,000 people killed themselves. like the team, this was a group of deaths
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among connected people for a short space of time. but did these deaths really influence one another? can suicide be contagious? or where these boys vulnerable to self—harm anyway? we know that if you know someone close to you who has died by suicide, at your own risk of suicide has increased and there are lots of different ways associated with increased risk but in my mind they are already vulnerable and the suicide of another increases your vulnerability because you're dealing with the trauma of losing a friend oi’ with the trauma of losing a friend orfamily with the trauma of losing a friend or family member. after the loss of these young men, a series of anxiety grew around the town. this was the front page in may 2018. the local community is more aware than ever before that its young men are taking their own lives. and this in turn
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has had an impact on mental health services with urgent referrals for under 18 was almost doubling in 18 months. doesn't have a knock on effect on others? it can do and that is why you see increased levels of stress and increase referrals for that stress and it is important to recognise that suicide is an extremely rare event although we talk about it but it generates a huge amount of fear and you get the fear within the community around what might be happening with our young people and i think that is a natural and understandable fear. scotland's suicide rate has gone down over the past 20 years. last year though, suicides among young people increased by 50% on the previous year, bringing scotland's
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total two 784, the highest and five yea rs. total two 784, the highest and five years. a total two 784, the highest and five yea rs. a few total two 784, the highest and five years. a few of the young man mentioned were seeking help at the time of their deaths. if services do not know people are in crisis, how can they help them? there are things we need to think about around particularly engaging young men and what are the right ways to go about doing that. we are looking at an age in which people are moving away from families and very often they are sadly moving away from school which possibly would have been a supportive mechanism for them. their social relationships are altering, there is the potential for alcohol and drug use to start creeping in and drug use to start creeping in and around those ages and relationships are often at difficult stages around that time and expectations can be very high. during filming this summer, to volu nteers during filming this summer, to volunteers from chris' house take
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their own lives. the truth is unless they tell us, no one knows for certain in that final moment why people kill themselves. what we do know is that if you are from a more disadvantaged background, if you experience childhood trauma, and crucially if you are already vulnerable and are exposed to suicide through a close friend or family member or team—mate, then you are more at risk. every year chris' house organises its walk of hope eventin house organises its walk of hope event in glasgow. hundreds of people affected by suicide come together to remember those they have lost. so the walk has just set off and it is the walk has just set off and it is the early hours of the morning and we will soon see the sunrise and the idea is that everyone is walking through the darkness and into the
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light. there is connection here, it is not just motherwell or light. there is connection here, it is notjust motherwell or here, these people come from all over, most of them strangers to one another, sharing the same complicated grief. like the welshes oi’ complicated grief. like the welshes or murray's mum or pg's mum, that drive to save someone else's son. or murray's mum or pg's mum, that drive to save someone else's sonm is ok not to be ok. hope will be there, just ask for it. take five minutes and think about what you are doing, dear mum, because if you do not feel like you love yourself, someone does. you not feel like you love yourself, someone does. you are not feel like you love yourself, someone does. you are somebody's world. you can go forward and back
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as many times... hello again, flooding issues are quite likely across england and wales and the reason is we have a lot of cloud and this is rain bearing cloud that stretches not just across the uk at the moment but stretches while out even into the sub topic atlantic and it stretches for over 3000 miles on the pipeline of moisture is targeted at england and wales and particularly across the south and wales, a weather warning and forswear flooding is
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likely to develop and it is not the only place to see heavy rain. and even lower down across northern england in the midlands, we could see it localised flooding issues and cutting through saturday this will start to edge its ways eastwards and as it clears the air, water will be running off the hills into river catchment so we could see further flooding issues, colder air and the north and blustery showers and sunny cells in temperatures, dammit contrasted again and otherwise the air is getting cooler and as we look at where the air is coming from we are pulling down some very cold air from the arctic across much of the uk and there is slightly less cool airto the uk and there is slightly less cool air to the north of scotland which will be moving its way and for sunday but as it does so the cold air conditions will spread through southern areas of england. it will bea
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southern areas of england. it will be a cold start to the day and the clocks having gone back need to get an extra hour and that perhaps underneath the warm duvet. a few showers for northern scotland and perhaps a few running down the north sea coast of england as well, temperatures and scotland come up a couple of degrees but the less cool air moving and in the clear conditions move and to southern england. into monday's forecast high—pressure dominating and wind coming in from a northerly direction and across northern scotland, around some of the north sea coast of england, a frosty‘s dart elsewhere and there is another pretty chilly day. the air is getting colder again across scotland in temperatures eight celsius in edinburgh. into tuesday and the high—pressure is still with us and weakens the weather friend tried to me than and at the moment it is held at bay so
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that means another dry day with sunshine but a few showers affecting northeastern areas of the uk and it will be dry for most of us and if that weather friend comes will be dry for most of us and if that weatherfriend comes in will be dry for most of us and if that weather friend comes in a little closer, the moisture will be picked up from the jet stream and a most likely scenario will be something like that is where we could get an area of low pressure, strong winds and rain towards the south but we think that is less likely. into wednesday and thursday we get a bit of a lurch into the southwest area of the tape with high—pressure slowly retreating its way eastwards and the cold conditions and frosty conditions will continue across the northern and east and across the southwest we see some rain and strengthening winds began to make inroads. that is the latest letter, goodbye for now.
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vietnamese families fear their children are among the 39 people who died in the refrigerated lorry in essex. the brother of 26—year—old pham tra my says he last heard from her on tuesday night, when she sent text messages saying she couldn't breathe. tonight, police are asking for help. i would also like to make an appeal to anyone living illegally in this country, who could help our investigation. please come forward and speak to us without fear. it comes as a fourth person was arrested at stansted airport on suspicion of manslaughter and conspiracy to traffic people. we'll explore the issue of criminal gangs trafficking migrants. also tonight... boris johnson tells jeremy corbyn to "man up" and back an election, as the eu agrees to another brexit delay — but won't decide the date until next week.
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