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presidential donald about the obama success presidential donald about the obama success and bin, they is presidential of big man who is hello. this is bbc news with martine croxall. we'll be taking a look at tomorrow mornings papers in a moment — orchestrated and absolutely abysmal first the headlines. president trump says the leader of the so—called set of things they are engaged in islamic state group, abu bakr al—baghdadi, has died after a military operation, by us special forces. a brutal killer, one who has caused so much hardship and death, has violently been eliminated. brutal executions, torture from that the us says al baghdadi detonated an explosives vest, after being cornered in a compound, point of view it is a good thing in north western syria. that he has been removed. the government presses ahead with attempts to get a december general election. ministers will put a vote before
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parliament, tomorrow. anti—trump, as you say, has been vigils are held in vietnam using the language he has been by families who fear their loved ones are among the 39 people found using. —— and trump. he could have been more presidential, but he doesn't tend to be. well, he has revised the word presidential...” suppose he is going to enjoy this dead in a lorry in essex. moment. the question is, with all of hello, and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. with me are martin bentham, the evening standard's home affairs editor, and business commentator, josie cox. these terror groups, can they come many of tomorrow's front pages are already in. together? this is the point this ‘he died like a dog' — article makes as well. but it is not president trump's words lead on the metro after the world's most wanted man — abu bakr al—baghdadi — is killed in a us raid in northwest syria. article makes as well. but it is not a fatal one for the organisation. trump says that they killed a brutal the times also has that story, reporting the fugitive leader of islamic state blew himself up after being cornered in a tunnel by us commandos. the guardian publishes
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murderer. died like dog by raid by the details of a leaked draft agreement which reveals the eu is preparing to give the uk a three—month brexit extension. us forces and blew himself up along with his children. it doesn't sound a very dignified and, to take out your children with you, of course. the telegraph reports the prime minister has been handed a lifeline by the liberal democrats and the snp who have proposed holding a general election in december if borisjohnson adheres to a three—month extension of article 50. the i has the same story, ahead of tomorrow's vote in the commons — with the prime minister to put forward a motion calling 00:02:20,674 --> 4294966103:13:29,430 for an election on december 12th. this is picked up by the video that was apparently ta ken this is picked up by the video that was apparently taken of it all. a bit of poetic license. the organisation, it was never like this al-qaeda organisation. which was very organised. it was an
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inspirational thing. so very organised. it was an inspirationalthing. so from very organised. it was an inspirational thing. so from that point of view it was less of an important success than the removal ofa summer important success than the removal of a summer bin laden was. —— osama bin laden. of course, what has actually happened because of the trump decision to abandon the kurdish allies, that has left a significant number of people in these camps potentially free to escape and re—establish some presence when basically the threat of being largely in that... that is something that trump has attracted a lot of negative criticism. this is his way to redirect his attention on trump asa his way to redirect his attention on trump as a hero, especially in the lead up to the elections coming up soon. lead up to the elections coming up soon. we will stay with the daily telegraph. lib dem ‘s offer route to an election but they want something
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in return, josie? an election but they want something in return, josie? yes and they want an extension and i think what essentially they are hoping for is some way out of brexit still. it looks increasingly likely, it looks like we will crush out of the eu this week as was going to be the case. this is a list of demands so over to you martin. nicely dodged! borisjohnson has over to you martin. nicely dodged! boris johnson has been over to you martin. nicely dodged! borisjohnson has been wanting to achieve a general election. he has been hamstrung by parliament. he will go for it again tomorrow. it seems he won't get that because labour is not supporting it and least that at least until they have decided on extension so he can't crush up without a deal. that might happen tomorrow so theoretically,
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labour's argument against it might disappear. that crush out. they want to put forward, without appeal, that requires a majority —— crash out. to put forward, without appeal, that requires a majority -- crash out. to getan requires a majority -- crash out. to get an election before christmas. yes, they say december the ninth or, according to this, borisjohnson might try to push, it might agree to this if you fail to get the election way he wants, or he might try to push the change for the 12th.” would love to pretend we have some influence! the guardian is saying the eu is ready to give this three month extension to the end of january, even though emmanuel macron is saying, no, you should only have a couple of weeks. they are citing a
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d raft a couple of weeks. they are citing a draft paper here suggesting a no—deal brexit is now off the table for the end of this week. but of course, i mean, everything is up in the air. as you say, emmanuel macron is not exactly in favour of this as we have been hearing. i suppose there are still so many moving parts at this point. how many times have we said that? that everything is up in the air! nhs's chief's blast at dangerous homoeopathy. they are accusing homoeopathy of spreading misinformation. he is saying they are spreading misinformation about jabs, could presumably talking about things like mmr and vaccinations which he is saying this clearly poses, they quote, "significant danger to human health". and i think if people are being persuaded by alternative therapies do not have things which are medically
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established to be important and beneficial, in the case of mmr, for protecting children from measles and so on. protecting children from measles and so on. then of course, it is a big problem. that that is happening. he is suggesting that he should be delisted from the official registered professional organisations and that that would somehow reduce their appeal to those people who have attempted. that is an interesting point because ijust wonder people who are inclined to try homoeopathy as an alternative... try to get scientific evidence to back it up. exactly. will they really care if it is listed as science? it can be dangerous if you are doubling with stuff you don't understand. i agree but ijust
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wonder whether people are inclined to use homoeopathy over anything more medical, evidence backed, would actually care whether it is listed asa actually care whether it is listed as a science, or not. if you are shunning something that is medically established, to be necessary and beneficial, for something else was obviously there is a separate issue there, if you are still taking and following the nhs prescribed roots and so on and may be trying to do something on top of that as an additional thing, if it is not going to clash with it, maybe that is fairly harmless. but in general, relying on things that the science doesn't report is not generally a good idea. the times. cladding confusion. owners of up to half a million flats saying they can't sell 01’ million flats saying they can't sell or get a new mortgage. why is that, josie? this is revisiting all these issues that we face in the aftermath of the grenfell tragedy. that is what we saw back in 2017 and this issue has been blighting us for two years, now. there is still so much
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uncertainty over government advice over towers that have still got these flammable materials on and the people who are in these blocks are essentially in a state of limbo because there is no certainty over whose responsibility it is and who will essentially foot the bill and for getting rid of this very dangerous... and obviously we haven't got the full story here but presumably, the problem is that for those people who are lending the money, they are not sure, in essence, what the value of the property is. your property is essentially worth nothing because it is unsellable. then how can you get the mortgage that you need to sustain the debt you have taken out already? everybody must feel very sorry for the many people who, first of all, had this great battle to get the government, which has —— which it has now agreed to, to help them with the cost of making their flight say. they bought their flights in good faith from developments and the government has said well, it is an issue between you and the people who built them even though they were guaranteed by the state standards
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and so on. so they had that problem which theoretically has been overcome, only now to face this other one about them having properties that are properly unsellable and big debts attached to them which they cannot remortgage on. let's finish with the financial times. johnson called death threats "humbug". this has been happening because boris johnson "humbug". this has been happening because borisjohnson has used some fairly colourful language and in this case described the death threats is humbug which he then apologised for doing. i think it is pa rt apologised for doing. i think it is part of this upping the anti— and too much casual abuse on either side, really, of opponents and failing other people ‘s motives. denigrate them for having a different view to yourself. this is
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leading to a war on twitter of people sort of hiding behind social media and levelling abuse at others ina media and levelling abuse at others in a really unpleasant fashion. or worse. it seems to be no holds barred, at times. sometimes it is essentially if someone sees one person using vitriolic language than it is somehow deemed as more a cce pta ble it is somehow deemed as more acceptable and in the age of social media that we live in with information being disseminated so quickly and messages pouring out so quickly, and often anonymously as well. i mean, social media does give you that security of being able to hide behind a handle or whatever it is. and yes, i think it will certainly enhance scrutiny of the role of social media in debates like this. that is it for the papers tonight. don't forget you can see the front pages of the papers online on the bbc news website. it's all there for you — 7 days a week at bbc.co.uk/papers — and if you miss the programme any evening, you can watch it later
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on bbc iplayer. thank you, martin and josie. next on bbc news it's the film review. hello and a very warm welcome to the film review on bbc news. to take us through this week's cinema releases is mark kermode, as ever. hello, mark. hi. we have a very, very interesting week. we have the last black man in san francisco, which is a sundance film festival hit. we have monos, an extraordinary feature from alejandro landes. and black and blue, a thriller
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starring naomie harris. there is quite a lot of talk about all of these, actually.
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