this is bbc news, i'm carrie gracie. the headlines at eight. the grenfell tower fire — a public inquiry reveals ‘systemic failures‘ in the way london fire brigade dealt with the blaze, prompting calls for its chief to resign. and we will never ever forget the tragedy of that night. her son's hello, i‘m ros atkins, lives lost and the fire brigade this is 0utside source. survivors and relatives of the 72 people who died in the grenfell tower fire couldn't saved more lives that are calling for resignations from the london fire brigade knives —— could have. the report said more a report says more lives lives could have been saved if the building had could have been saved been evacuated sooner. the victims relatives and survivors called it heartbreaking. if the building had been evacuated we believe the firefighters told us sooner — and found "systemic failures" in the fire brigade response. relatives and survivors called it heartbreaking. we believed the firefighters to stay, so we believed them and we

who came and knocked on her door and stayed. the last prime minister's questions before who came and knocked on our door and the general election — as leaders clash over the nhs, the economy and of course brexit. told us to stay. so we believed them and we stayed. today saw the last prime minister‘s questions before a police helicopter crash in glasgow the general election. the leaders clashed over the nhs, which killed 10 people — the economy and brexit. an inquiry finds the pilot consciously took a risk by ignoring we‘ll have a look at warnings about a lack of fuel what the campaign could hold. wildfires are raging across california — and how the man known and near los angeles, as the bad boy of rugby — kyle sinckler — has become one the ronald reagan presidential of england's standout players and great hopes for saturday's rugby world cup final. good evening. the london fire brigade commissioner dany cotton has rejected calls for her resignation which have come from survivors of the grenfell tower fire. but she has expressed her "deepest sorrow" at not being able to save more lives.

72 people died in the tower block fire in june 2017. a report following the first stage of the public inquiry has criticised the fire brigade for "serious shortcomings" in the way it dealt with the fire. the inquiry‘s chairman said the absence of a plan to evacuate the tower was a "major omission" by the london fire brigade and more lives could have been saved had the so called "stay—put" policy been abandoned sooner. our special correspondent lucy manning reports. and a warning, some viewers may find some of the images in her report upsetting. y? y? the last thing i was hearing from my

aunt was where are the firefighters. and i asked the same, where are the firefighters? since the tower, i have no meaning in my life. no inquiry can comfort them. nothing brings them back. no words ease their harsh reality. grenfell was a national tragedy but for them it was a deeply personal one. losing their husband, daughter into children. six—month—old child dying in her mothers arms. this is our family! my

whole family died! the cladding that surrounded the building from spreading these flames broke building regulations. they were covered in a flammable material. the focus is what happened on the night, despite the bravery of some firefighters, the fire brigade is heavily criticised for institutional and systemic failures. telling people to stay put in these flames cost lives. told to stay put in the building, his five—year—old son did not make it out. on the night i was there, i was suffering and still suffering from the situation. there was no excuse. suffering from the situation. there was no excuse. we should have been rescued and held by the firefighters! she lost her mother

and aunt. they're responsible to a job, they had training, they had legislations that told them what to do and they did not do it. they should be prosecuted and i am not seeing individual firemen that did a ha rd seeing individual firemen that did a hard job, bless them, seeing individual firemen that did a hardjob, bless them, they seeing individual firemen that did a hard job, bless them, they probably did not get paid that well, but the seniors of the top did not do well. i would not change a thing we did that night stopped by today, she apologised to the families. the 72 lives lost for the worst thing ever in the london fire brigade are truly sorry that we could not save everyone's lives that night. i think you'll be very difficult for us to draw that conclusion and i think even some have no expert evidence to draw that conclusion. will you

resign? no, i will retire in draw that conclusion. will you resign? no, iwill retire in six months' time because i will make those changes if i resign, i cannot do that. they were warned that there could be a serious fire moments before. my life was saved by a brave firefighter from the 16th floor who came and rescued me when i was taking my last breaths and in the report, they point out that there are many, many instances of brave and courageous acts by firefighters. my and courageous acts by firefighters. my own personal view is that she needs to be dismissed from her post. in the commons, they stood silent for a minute as survivors and bereaved looked on at the politicians they feel let them down. they asked for the truth and we promised them the truth. we owe them the truth. and today, the whole

country, the whole world is finally hearing the truth about what happened at grenfell hearing the truth about what happened at gre nfell tower. hearing the truth about what happened at grenfell tower. the simple fact is, mr speaker, the exact same cladding is on similar high—rises, sprinklers have not been fitted and thousands of people will go to bed tonight and tomorrow night not feeling safe in this country. this tower is a devastating testa m e nt to this tower is a devastating testament to the companies that made the cladding. the authorities that allowed it to be put on in the fire brigade who saved some but failed others. with me now are david neita — he's a member of the group bme lawyers for grenfell. and arnold tarling — a chartered surveyor and fire expert. what stands out for you? well, i was not too surprised by the outcome. the fact that it was taken in the

industry that a lot of the comments made were unwise in regards to not making any changes in the comment that they made absolutely no difference had there been a landing on the shard. it showed a lack of understanding of willingness to learn from experience and the lack of learning from experience doesn't just come from grenfell, it comes from before that. we have had many fires, when previous which at one point the assistant and deputy commissioner with the role for safety a nd commissioner with the role for safety and assurance and the judge had issued what is called an order of 43 letter which called into question the application of building regulations and also the stay put

policy. but one of the big mistakes is made when the state policy is that it is made when the state policy is thatitis is made when the state policy is that it is written in the wrong way around. what it says is stay put a much more affected by heat or smoke. if they admitted a different policy, u nless if they admitted a different policy, unless you are affected by heat and smoke, stay put. then people would have understood it and people would have understood it and people would have been evacuated much sooner. on the other hand, there were people on the other hand, there were people on the night being told by the fire service to stay put and so, the order of the sentence surely didn't apply to the firefighters. they are only repeating the first part, stay put. but the reason they were doing thatis put. but the reason they were doing that is because they were not expecting the fire to move that fast. the people on the ground would

not have expected the fire to move that fast. more senior people would've been reasonably aware of similar fires would've been reasonably aware of similarfires in dubai france and around the world. and it was well known that this was going on, i gave warnings in 2014 and fire offices we re warnings in 2014 and fire offices were there and people from the building research establishment for there. we raised the issue of cladding, timber cladding and nothing was done. what advice are they giving? that goes back that there was a chance to go back and go change things what advice was he given? be here in the report saying that everyone is hearing the truth andi

that everyone is hearing the truth and i suppose hearing the truth is not comforting unless action is being taken on the basis of the truth and one other things that's come today repeatedly from comments by those who understood that there are risks still applied to the 400 of the buildings covered in the same cladding or some the cladding. but on that, they're only talking about buildings above 18 metres what about the buildings up to 18 metres? the properties that are clad with this material? i raised the issue with a member of the ministry of housing. and his responses to why it was still on there is that we do not have the capacity to cope with removing it all. there's no edict thatis, removing it all. there's no edict that is, not to remove cladding on low—rise buildings and just as damaging there as it is on the high—rise. damaging there as it is on the high-rise. and there are still cladding this material. yes, indeed.

so the high—rise building should be the top of the priority list? yes, they should be. but it should not be just concentrated on them. but yet, they have not been done? they have not been done know. we hear from the chairman saying that this has to be treated as a matter of emergencies. below it has to be treated as an emergency. the leaseholders and others do not have money to do the work. there was a massive breakdown in the approved documents which have been highlighted in inquests in previous inquiries as being at fault in the approved documents led to the disaster that we have. it goes back to the government and advisers to the ministers, what advice did they give to make the building safe?

we're going to add to leave it there, but thank you very much for joining us. the bill for a general election has cleared the house of lords this evening, and can now go forward for royal assent to allow parliament to be dissolved next week. earlier, the prime minister has clashed with the labour leader over the nhs, brexit and leadership at the last prime minister's questions before polling day on december the 12th. jeremy corbyn said voters had a "once in a generation" chance to save the nhs, which was in "greater danger" than at any time in its history. borisjohnson warned of "economic catastrophe" and "political disaster" if labour got into power. 0ur political editor laura kuenssberg reports. the warm up. parliament cameras capturing the last moments of this particular generation. the commons

has examined every angle of brexit and failed to come to a conclusion. so that conclusion will not be for all of us to decide what we make of them. and the contrast between these two is profound. of the twist that this election cannot be clearer. people have a chance to vote for real change and after years of conservative and lib dem cuts, tax hand—outs for the riches. conservative and lib dem cuts, tax hand-outs for the riches. they'll be scrapping to be heard and it will not be a gentlemanly debate. leadership means standing for the people of this country and getting brexit done and ending the dither and the delay. the time for protest is over, mr speaker, it is time for leadership. they have been trying out their lines, practising their pitches, this slogan you'll hear again and again, but this is the substance of the plants of the country that will determine who has the privilege of coming back to this

place and in the end, who takes up the prime minister's position in the glare and under the pressure of the dispatch box. jeremy corbyn is already on the road, from the comments straight to the marginal seat, labour suggested that they might agree to another referendum on independence in scotland. keeping hold of any campaign is harder than directing a group of toddler. for the next five e ks, is a big opportunity and the risk for the s&p. -- opportunity and the risk for the s&p. —— weeks. opportunity and the risk for the s&p. -- weeks. the only way out of the mess us to stop brexit and a vote for the ds the mess us to stop brexit and a vote for the d5 in p is for the rate of scotla nd vote for the d5 in p is for the rate of scotland to choose its own future and not have borisjohnson determine oui’ and not have borisjohnson determine our future but put it into our hands. there might be a huge change, several of the mps gathering with the lib dem leader stood for

different parties the last time around. the liberal democrats from fighting our most ambitious selection yet because this general election is one where the future of out election is one where the future of our country for generations is at sta ke. our country for generations is at stake. more than 50 mps and made the decision to go, taking their own histories with them. churchill's grandson is saying goodbye. pretty neck it has become a rougher place, we are in a period of profound disruption. but we are in an area where things are just blown up and institutions are in great strain. would you forgive me for asking you what your graham teddy my grandfather may think of you stepping down? if you'll be pleased,

i tried. that is the thing. it has beena i tried. that is the thing. it has been a great honour and i really mean that. and i'm very sad to be going. weather forced out by choice, elections are about farewells and these are the speakers last days in his official chair as well. this is the story of individuals and the soul. so that's the challenge on the ground — what do the next few weeks hold? well, just after midnight next wednesday, parliament will be dissolved and there will be a five—week campaign until the country goes to the polls on december the 12th — the first december election since 1923. as it stands, brexit is now due to happen by 31st of january 2020. let's speak to our political correspondet helen catt.

helen, we were sitting in the report, some were leaving and the speaker, now we understand in the last hour, they have also decided to stand down. that tally of more than 50 mp5, stand down. that tally of more than 50 mps, nikki morgan, the culture secretary has stated that for the first time in18 secretary has stated that for the first time in 18 years, shall not be standing in receipts and particularly what is interesting about her letter that she has published is that she also cites what she says is the clear impact of herfamily in what she says is the clear impact of her family in the abuse she receives for doing thejob of her family in the abuse she receives for doing the job of a her family in the abuse she receives for doing thejob of a modern mp and says that is only worth it if parliament does what it is supposed to do and the implication of that is at the moment it has not. she mentioned that abuse which has been a topic that we have are particularly among female mps in the last sort of years becoming a real issue. we will see how that plays

during the campaign. and what exactly a re during the campaign. and what exactly are you most looking forward to in this forthcoming campaign? what you think is going to be worth watching? i think it is going to be really interesting campaign across the board. we have the first december election campaign since the 19205 december election campaign since the 1920s and it is going to be unusual circumstances and anything can happen. so the parties can go in thinking that they wanted to be about one thing it will be entirely different as the campaign progresses in this one could be unpredictable because you have some unpredictable players in there too. and the conservatives are going to want to keep it on brexit because they feel they have a clear message there and they have a clear message there and they could be a really interesting factor in this because they have not been present in the general election, the brexit party. the snp are looking to build the case of scotland's right to choose, labour

would like it to be public services but it does not really matter what the various parties wanted to be about, it is when you get the message is put before the voters we find out what really happens. thank you very much. the headlines on bbc news... the grenfell tower fire — a public inquiry reveals ‘systemic failures‘ in the way london fire brigade dealt with the blaze —— prompting calls for its chief to resign. party leaders clash over the nhs, the economy and of course brexit, in the last prime minister‘s questions before the general election an inquiry into a police helicopter crash in glasgow, which killed ten people, finds the pilot consciously took a risk by ignoring warnings about a lack of fuel sport and for a full round up, from the bbc sport centre.

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the park and giving them the lead against wolverhampton hoping to reach the quarterfinals in the first 724 years and in the women plus plus champions league, they looked to be heading out of the competition, they are losing at two and their own goal there and it is 2—1 and it is three to an aggregate, for the stage there and now the highest score in the competition history as she scored two in the 7—0 victory. six games in the scottish premiership, rangers have taken the lead and celtic were joint top of the start of the play, there currently 0—0 and that match there, hamilton are losing at home to aberdeen and currently at 1—0 and

derby county have sacked their captain for gross misconduct over his involvement in the car crash that led to the arrest of two of his team—mates. the defender suffered ligament damage and is ruled out for up ligament damage and is ruled out for up to 15 months after crashing into a lamp post that month. they both pleaded guilty to drink—driving and his contract had been terminated. he is 14 days to appeal against the decision. sam admits hejust could not be himself on the field any more after retiring from rugby league, a player described as one of the greatest of his generation, is suffering from a shoulder injury and he had three years left on his contract with australian side and his career included a brief spell and rugby union, but is two leagues ste nt and rugby union, but is two leagues stent included being england

captain. two months about a victory but now carladmin captain. two months about a victory but now carl admin has two victories in two days, beating in straight sets in round two of the masters. from number 14 to 75, his best performance in months and will now face the number one in the last 16 on thursday. and that is all the support for now, will have more at half past ten and we will see you then. let‘s get more now on our top story, suddenly, the social media platform will ban all political advertising on november the 22nd, this is coming straight from the top from the ceo of twitter. he says we have made the decision to stop all political advertising on twitter globally. we

believe political message reached should be earned and not bought. that is a big change for them because of course, as you will be aware, there is been a lot of criticism on how social media platforms have been used in some of the election campaigns both of the united states in the presidential election of 2016, but also elsewhere with questions raised about the brexit referendum and about campaigns and other countries. so thatis campaigns and other countries. so that is a big move by twitter for all political advertising to be banned from november the 22nd globally, the same political message reached should be earned and not bought. right now, we need to turn back to our top story, the london fire brigade commissioner dany cotton has rejected calls for her resignation from survivors of the grenfell tower fire following the release of an official report. the public inquiry found many more lives could have been saved if firefighters had abandoned the policy of telling

residents to stay put. with me now are david neita — he‘s a member of the group bme lawyers for grenfell. what is your view on this issue of london fire brigade? because some of these people are jumping london fire brigade? because some of these people arejumping into london fire brigade? because some of these people are jumping into say look, the firefighters were incredibly brave on the ground, but this is a corporate issue that is about the management. first of all, our solidarity and comfort is with the survivors of grenfell. that awful and horrendous day that will have suffered huge trauma, loss of life, loss of families and friends, loss of your memory, loss of your whole mental state. today, it marks another loss. the report marks

another loss. the report marks another loss. the report marks another loss. because it is the discovery that lives could have been saved. imagine how you feel, the disaster, this trauma that you feel and to learn that lives could have been saved if another approach had been saved if another approach had been taken. and we normally associate firefighters with doing the best and trying their hardest and what we now know that there was and what we now know that there was a failure and what we now know that there was afailure in and what we now know that there was a failure in the system and i think to cattle the firefighters and assign blame to them and all of them would be a failure on our part as well. because it is a wider issue, it is the building, the compartment, the compartmentalization that failed, the lack of knowledge of the firefighters that they did not have this information about the nature of the building and how it behaves in the building and how it behaves in the circumstance and it is a failure dating right back from 2009 with the

lack of unimplemented recommendations that the government set on for all of these years and it isa set on for all of these years and it is a failure of manufacturers of these goods. i did a podcast with human rights podcast, called haven‘t you heard and i have the opportunity to talk to a fire expert who said that, i learned from him that the most dangerous things in our country right now are not weapons in the hands of people, but things we plug into our walls. and this was the refrigerator where it all originated because you love the one that exploded and caused the problem. the source of the fire. -- the refrigerator. let us not leave out budget cuts. you might wonder what that has to do with that. but people criticise the government rightly for cutting budgets to the police, but there is another police. there is a

police of training standards and it lasts eight or nine years, those budgets have been slashed. those standards, the amount of staff to regulate these goods have been so cut that you cannot keep up if you do not have police on the streets, you cannot assume increase if you do not have people properly policing, we have a right to know that what we buy and put in our walls and plug—in, that we do not plug them back out. go to sleep but the dryer on, we leave the fridge on and we have a right to know that we are safe. but we are not. so it is absolute, everyone should worry about living in a low regulation, low tech society —— tax society and rightly so, it is a much wider issue

and while we are at it, can we for once and for all, remove this stigma and vilification from flight number 16 who had been vilified and we now learned that if anything, he was a hero because before leaving his flat, he switched off the circuit breaker, thus preserving the evidence that would find this information. in just evidence that would find this information. injust one last question. 0ne information. injust one last question. one of the points made by the chairman in the first phase report was the treating of the removal of cladding and other high—rise buildings, high risk cladding saying that this must not be treated as an emergency. cladding saying that this must not be treated as an emergencym cladding saying that this must not be treated as an emergency. it is a national scandal and we could find ourselves in a system where we are

living in solid gasoline cladding houses and many of us are living in high—rise buildings clad with solid gasoline that i think that is a matter of absolute urgency, that does make things need to be done. the cladding needs to be removed but it cannot be done overnight, there needs to be in audits of people know where they live. many people are living in these flats and do not know the nature, how to behave if there is a fire, if it is to stay or move? how the fire department know what advice to give? so there needs to be an immediate audit running right in the fire stations to tell them exactly what the nature of the building is, how it will behave the proper advice, so lights can be saved. —— lives. it is so depressing to hear today that lives could‘ve been saved and should have been saved. in on a grim thought, we will have to leave it there.

while mps were sitting at westminster, campaigning has begun north of the border. first minister nicola sturgeon said scotland was facing the most important election in decades, declaring that the only way to avoid brexit and protect scottish interests was to opt for independence. let‘s cross to edinburgh now and speak to nicola mcewen who is a professor of territorial politics and co—director at the centre on constitutional change at the university of edinburgh. thank you so much forjoining us. so, just run us through your perceptions of the political or rather electoral landscape as you see it tonight. clearly there are only 59 mps elected from scotland over a parliament of 650, so in terms of the overall arithmetic it seems quite small however the dynamics of the election in scotland are very different. it‘s about the

s&p winning by how much of a margin and nobody expects any party other than the s&p to win north of the border, and to win by quite a big margin, and that can affect the ability of the conservatives in the labour party to secure will be crave but also raises a significant question for the future of the union not least because the s&p have put the demand for a new independence referendum at the heart of their campaign. let's split those points that you make and deal first with explain in slightly greater detail how a larger or smaller majority for the s&p in scotland, in terms of mps will affect the arithmetic in the comments in westminster. there's 59 mps in scotland, in 2017 scotland was the only part of the uk were the conservatives made gains, and i

think certainly for what we can see from the poles of the moment the conservatives will struggle to hold onto those seats north of the border and so there is a real battle there and so there is a real battle there and the conservatives across the uk are needing to secure gains and make gains in order to try and achieve that desire for overall majority. the labour party will struggle to holders of the gains they made last time around. there are however so many marginal constituencies within scotland, there are very few seats that we can identify as safe, and so campaigns matter, a long way to go and so it‘s very difficult to protect from this vantage point. sticking with the electoral landscape for a moment longer and briefly what do you think the lib dems can do in terms of picking up from either the tories or labour, or do you see those seats going to the s&p? not necessarily. there are some

seats where the s&p actually face a significant challenge from the liberal democrats including in northeast with the liberal democrats held the seat for a long time and the s&p held onto it last time with just two votes. in most narrow margin in the uk. liberal democrats will have high hopes of getting that seat and perhaps a few more. they have a distinctive theme in scotland as being clearly opposed to break that and in favour of scotland staying in the uk, so they will try to use those twin usp to secure and shore up and the pro remain north of the border. >> let‘s go back then to your second point you are making a moment ago that you are making about the push for the referendum. if nicola sturgeon makes a very strong campaign pledge will she thereafter if she gets an increased majority in terms of westminster will she then

say well, look, we got a mandate for the ballot box for that? she has on several occasions made the point that she has a mandate and technically the conservatives at the moment have said no and that‘s not a sufficient mandate and jeremy corbyn has been more ambiguous in his positioning on independence referendum. it will depend to an extent whether she makes gains for the s&p, but also whether or not they are holding the balance of parliaments in a hung parliament situation. we see the power that small parties can have in the context with the dup and the cabinet and so the s&p will be hopeful that they can secure enough additional supports to strengthen the call for a new independence referendum, but thatis a new independence referendum, but that is in the hands of the uk parliament to determine. legally they have the ability. thank you

very much. now it‘s time for very much. a look at the weathe. it's it‘s going to turn milder and more u nsettled it‘s going to turn milder and more unsettled towards the end of the week but for now it looks like high pressure will just week but for now it looks like high pressure willjust hold on keeping things dry and settled for northern and central parts of the uk. this feature in the southwest will continue to bring some outbreaks of rain southwest and southern whales, but will also hold the temperatures up but will also hold the temperatures up in the double figures, also with clear spells will also see the temperatures dipping away. it chilly but bright start across scotland in northern england, we could see a touch of frost. risk of one or two showers in the northeast after some early brightness with cloud increasing across northern ireland. for the cloud across wales in the southwest of england, the overnight rain will tend to ease here. to purchase generally between eight and 14 celsius. in milder but more u nsettled 14 celsius. in milder but more unsettled day as we move into friday. the temperatures and a max of around 16 celsius in cardiff and london but there will be spells of

rain toa london but there will be spells of rain to a company that and plenty of cloud. goodbye.

hello this is bbc news with carrie gracie. the headlines. calls for the head of the london fire brigade to resign over grenfell, as a new report identifies ‘systemic failures‘ that may have prevented them saving more lives. and we will never ever forget

the tragedy of that night. the 72 lives lost were just the worst thing ever, and london fire brigade are truly sorry we couldn‘t have saved everyone‘s that night. the last prime minister‘s questions before the general election — as leaders clash over the nhs, the economy and of course brexit. and coming up, a waddle of pengiuns — visit a care home at the request of a 99—year—old resident. more now on the impending general election. legislation paving its way has cleared its first hurdle in the house of lords. the bill has been given a formal "second reading" , and is expected to complete its parliamentary stages later tonight. so we‘re now heading into an election period — but what will it look like? joining me to shed some light on this is helen thomas — financial consultant and a former adviser to george osborne —

and tom hamilton, former labour policy advisor. thank you so much for coming to talk to me about this today, we‘re going to me about this today, we‘re going to split this in several issues, let‘s talk first to get out of the way about brexit. so helen, first, how much is the conservative party under boris johnson going how much is the conservative party under borisjohnson going to focus on get brexit done? that's obviously a big headline we‘ve heard over the last few months, it‘s a big banner at the conference it was the only thing. a clear reference to a number of other policies that clearly matter to voters, and hejust of other policies that clearly matter to voters, and he just police etc. all exhausted and let‘s talk about things that matter to people. how much of it is kind of the let‘s not get there and i cannot leave it in the hands of labour, how much of that will play? we have to see how

it goes. by choosing to have an election of the did not need to do ata time election of the did not need to do at a time when brexit has not happened and cannot be stopped as a result of the election gives people a reason to vote for the labour party that they might not otherwise, we know from the poles that labour has not been doing particularly well but the policy of renegotiating regular and allowing a referendum afterwards to remain with me the stopping brings altogether is a live possibility which will only be a possibility which will only be a possibility if conservatives don't win. is that a credible doorstep policy we are going to renegotiate sunday but may not even want it wa nts to sunday but may not even want it wants to be renegotiated?” sunday but may not even want it wants to be renegotiated? i don't think it's that complicated. renegotiate then referendum then you choose how you vote in that referendum. also fair to say it's probably not their top policy, not once the selection to be about. could be quite important for people

that are not that comfortable in the party. still think it's fair, their best option given this biggest issue facing the country. what about the other parties? there‘s a break the party and liberal democrats art got a very clearly defined provoke article 50 with their ticking onto the doorstep. this is going to be an astonishing unpredictable election. because of that now for parties and 4—way split. that‘s something our system is just not used to handling, and therefore difficult to protect how they will decide to start catching up vote when the liberal democrats and brexit party for the clearest a nd democrats and brexit party for the clearest and strongest brexit policy and as we are talking a lot of focus on the brazen party and whether there might be an official packed or not for the briggs a party may not

stand in seats where they might be challenging to conservatives and maintenance of weight prevent brexit being done as tom was talking about. let‘s turn to the other issues you mentioned a moment ago, you said that brexit is not taking to the doorstep, so what does it take to the doorstep? a huge range of policies to many in the 2017 ma nifesto. policies to many in the 2017 manifesto. announce quite a few public facing retail policies and focusing more on the nhs and on schools and there were to nationalise various bits of key infrastructure and to deal with local bus services in the whole range of things that they can do with these retail policies. results of the problem for the conservatives that having spent a couple elections focusing on fiscal discipline and imposing austerity and dealing with the financial crisis issue having

now gone to an argument that austerity is over it gives them less reason or less of a rational basis to impose the money to spend more money on this stuff but they don‘t have to spend more than labour diets so they can outgun them on the quality of the offer while not being as powerful so for the people for fiscal response ability. do you agree with, that if you think the fa ct agree with, that if you think the fact that we have seen boris johnson appearing in front of the police and talking about the 20,000 new officers are below the nhs is must be cherished as he tried to wrestle that territory back from labour? absolutely it is and gone through that and yes the argument would be that and yes the argument would be that we are going to do more sensibly somehow i suppose, but you‘re right it‘s a risky strategy and parking the tanks on the lawn and parking the tanks on the lawn and do you risk alienating where the

conservative party is trying to campaign on competence and prudence, but look philip hammond was the one that talked about and of austerity, so the world has shifted. really though talking about this election campaign it‘s been going on since borisjohnson took over. as you said 20,000 new police officers. the m essa g es 20,000 new police officers. the messages keep being repeated. given the polling at the moment it‘s having some residents. give us a sense of the texture of the campaign he can will it be doorsteps or social media or will it be what? to bring answer but all of those things. there will be a huge amount of online campaigning but every election campaign that i've been involved in has been the first digital election campaign comments will be a big one the last one for the obvious reasons. the dynamics of the obvious reasons. the dynamics of the december election make the quite interesting and more difficult. it's just going to be dark when

campaigners are able to get out of the doorstep splits means people are less likely to be part of canvassing teams and less likely to enter their doors to people, if you don't know whether it will be carol singers or ca nvassers. whether it will be carol singers or canvassers. but whether it will be carol singers or ca nvassers. but neither are particularly welcome. it's good to be hard to motivate people to get out and i think as always a huge amount of the campaign is going to go on on television in the newspapers as well as on doorsteps. your sense of the texture of this helen? there's been a big drive by the conservative party to say the last one did not go so well to get a crack team in place for this one, and you know the people they have hired have got a great, great tracker in that digital space unless one of the e—mails that went out from the team today, it was doorstep, letterbox, digital. it was really about all three. and look the

british public can ask many many questions of the last few years and being asked yet again, i‘m not too sure how much is going to change their minds given that people kind of know what they think right now. probably going to be more about it, iimagine, the probably going to be more about it, i imagine, the style of the leaders actually and the overarching sense of who is the better prime minister i think is what‘s going to come out. what about the leaders? we understand all the doorstep stuff and people saying both borisjohnson and people saying both borisjohnson and jeremy corbyn are super enthusiastic it out there for the fight, do voters reciprocate that enthusiasm, do they likejohnson and corbin? jeremy corbyn is famously unpopular with the public if you look at the polling and that masks the fact that boris johnson

look at the polling and that masks the fact that borisjohnson is pretty unpopular himselfjust not quite as unpopular. if a battle between two leaders who are not particularly liked by the public, and that means that how to perform ina campaign and that means that how to perform in a campaign is going to be really important. you had theresa may going into it enormously popular because she might sweep before her but performing so badly she fell back quite significantly while jeremy corbyn over performed compared with the public thought of him. he cannot introduce himself as a candidate again, but he's an effective campaign or out of the country than in parliament. and yet so as boris johnson. yes, i would say boris johnson. yes, i would say boris johnson probably has more of an ability to go backwards in a campaign that jeremy corbyn does because jeremy corbyn starts from such a low point in the expectations are different. i recommend why don't

worry, i'm not a conservative, but i do think borisjohnson's worry, i'm not a conservative, but i do think boris johnson's appeal to the wider public may not be as strong as assumed during the leadership campaign. not necessarily a popular figure. 0ne elections in london in 2012 but that was before he was a leading figure in the brexit campaign which makes him appealing to a certain section of the electorate but also repels them or make some repellents to another section. they're both more unpopular than unpopular but one will be the prime minister at the end of it. what about the debates? is that it kind of winner takes all moment for either of them if they managed to outmaneuver on this huge high—profile tv moment?” outmaneuver on this huge high-profile tv moment? i thought the today‘s prime minister‘s questions with a dry run we get those debates. both of them are absolutely bang up for it, you can see that in their exchange today. they both think they‘ve got a very

enthusiastic and passionate campaign. both actually do communicate well i think in terms of who they are addressing. but as we know in debates, little moments can change anything, not even a spoken moment, it can be body language elements. so that will be, i think quite significant in terms of the sense of, do we really like boris forjeremy, who do we want? just a quick word on the others. we mention the brexit party and lib dems. joe swinson, her first the brexit party and lib dems. joe swinson, herfirst election the brexit party and lib dems. joe swinson, her first election campaign as leader and nigel farage who shall never be entirely discounted. as leader and nigel farage who shall never be entirely discountedm will be hoping to make significant and gains. if you look at where they are on paper versus and gains. if you look at where they are on paper versus really have the smallest majorities to overturn nearly all of their top targets on conservative seats whether the

labour seats on paper and that makes securing a majority even harder. they're looking a lot stronger than the word in the last election. they will chances articulatory seats and in orderjust to stay at the moment lest they went a majority. those leaders, will he be able to muscle and the leader debates at the moment? i agree with nick back in the day, so absolutely can do and good communicators as well. little anecdotal points, i have my own business, one of my analysts says, his grandmother a northern leave voter and said i don‘t likejeremy corbyn, i voted labour all my life but boris is just trump isn‘t he? and that is i think the interesting hurdle that he has to get over to win this one. thank you both so much for coming in and sharing thoughts. an inquiry into a police helicopter crash at a glasgow pub six years ago has found that it

could have been prevented had the pilot followed emergency procedures. the inquiry was told that captain david traill repeatedly ignored the low fuel warnings he received during the flight. ten people died when the helicopter came down onto the roof of the busy clutha bar. 0ur scotland correspondent lorna gordon reports. it was a friday night in november and the clutha bar had been packed with people listening to live music when the police helicopter fell from the sky. are you 0k? cctv images released publicly for the first time should the shock crowd spilling from the pub but don‘t the aircraft was embedded in the roof. the days after it repealed the devastation inside. mary was one who managed to get out. her partner robertjenkins, did not. robert went to the bar to get us a drink.

and that‘s when the helicopter came down. so i was able to get out fairly quickly once the door was opened. i have been through almost six years now, of wanting to know what happened that night. and i still feel i don‘t know, there are still so many unanswered questions. in all, seven people inside the bar and all three crew including the pilot died in the accident. more than 30 others were injured. the helicopter crashed because its engine had been starved of fuel and the pumps that should have supplied it from the main tanks had been switched off. the fatal accident enquiry had one key question at its heart, why did this happen, why did the helicopter crash onto the roof of the clutha that night? the sheriff found that the pilot david traill had ignored low fuel warnings and said if the captain had followed procedures, the accident would not have happened. captain traill, he said, took a chance that the low fuel

ian lost his son in the accident. the report has brought him a little comfort. they have laid the blame totally on the pilot, david traill, and it makes me really angry. i think it's outrageous. where is the evidence for it? the report praised the dignity of those reefed. six years on, their grief is still raw in this tragedy that shocked a city and changed many lives. lorna gordon, bbc news. they‘ re naturally inquisitive and always bring a smile to your face — and today a waddle of penguins — yes that is what you call a group of penguins — arrived at a care home in lincoln. the visit was organised after one of the residents asked to see a penguin —

and well, who could resist. gemma dawson went along to meet them. this trio know how to make an entrance. penguins charlie, pringle and degroot have come to london. they are lovely animals, beautiful animals, really lovely animals. so tame, aren‘t they? animals, really lovely animals. so tame, aren't they? 99-year-old joyce told staff that her care home she wa nted told staff that her care home she wanted to meet a pink one, and today she got her wish. —— penguin. wanted to meet a pink one, and today she got her wish. -- penguin. we have a wish tree, so we ask most residents to make a wish and as a full spectrum of which is like a particular cake to something slightly more exotic, i like to meet a penguin. it was notjust joyce who

was happy to see these playful birds. they are fantastic, really gentle. i thought they were going oh, but there's nothing like it. as close of ever been to a live one. brilliant. sat on my knee and i stroked it, it was so beautiful. it was so nice we could touch them, my daughter won‘t believe it happened, i told her i had a penguin on my knee. it makes everyone's day when we broke up with a penguin in the back of the van, most ring cats and dogs and we show with pink ones. it's a fantastic day and you can see it on the faces of everyone. there will look after because you have to make sure they're in perfect health so we could bring them out to this sort of thing. as you can see charlie is very healthy. so lovely in factjoyce charlie is very healthy. so lovely in fact joyce wanted charlie is very healthy. so lovely in factjoyce wanted to keep him. charlie is very healthy. so lovely in factjoyce wanted to keep himlj would like one. yes. they are lovely. how much are they?”

would like one. yes. they are lovely. how much are they? i want one, can we have them in the studio please? hello there. is going to turn milder and more unsettled towards the end of the week, but for now it looks like high pressure willjust hold on keeping things dry and settled for northern and central parts of the uk. this feature in the southwest we continue to bring bricks of rain in southwest england and southern wales, but will also hold the temperatures appear in the figures as well with clear spells and temperatures dipping away from a chilly but bright starts across scotla nd chilly but bright starts across scotland in northern england where we can see a touch of the frost. the risk of winter showers in the northeast, or the brightness of the cloud increasing across northern ireland remained fairly cloudy across wales and southwest of england, the overnight rain will tend to ease here. temperatures generally between eight and 14 degrees. more unsettled is moving to friday, the temperatures in around

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