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evidence that the controversial process is safe. labour has unveiled a plan to make new build homes zero carbon within three years if it wins the general election. now in bbc news that is a belief from the election hearing. here's my treat! 0h! i haven't got a trick. no! it's halloween, but not the halloween we were expecting. no. we've all got our little additions. 0h. picked up on the campaign trail today. look, look. i've got this especially for you, laura, for the ten 0'clock news. do you like that? well, it is getting a bit cold this is bbc out there on the trail! news i'm shaun ley. it is. the headlines at three: it is, it is, it is. south africa are victorious maybe later! in the rugby world cup final and where's adam? beating england 32—12 where is he? well, word reaches me he has been at yokohama in japan. walking the streets today. so near yet so far for england what? walking the streets fans who take comfort in team coach on hallowe‘en in traditional — eddiejones‘ achievements. or, well, very adam — dress. let's have a quick look. he is dressed, apparently, as only adam could be... south africa deserved it. as? it was a disappointing game the withdrawal agreement! let's have a look. to watch, because there was simply not enough rugby being played.
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ow! turn sideways. hey, it'sjust a game of rugby, guys, there's a human... mate, it's all good. there's a human being under here. the government halts what, sideways? there you go. agh, agh! watch the ear. fracking for gas in england katya: what is he. . . ? unless there is evidence the controversial process is safe. labour unveils a plan to make da—da! all new—build homes "zero carbon" katya: it's michel barnier! within three years if it wins music: the addams the general election. family theme let's go! nicola sturgeon is about to tell a snp rally that it's the withdrawal agreement! 0h, is it? yeah. surely you'd rather have a ratified withdrawal agreement than a sweetie? no. no? happy halloween! they laugh i even brought a pen, in case anyone wanted to finally sign this thing! brexitcast. from the bbc. no—one's got a... bleep! clue what brexit is! brexit is, er... i haven't quite understood the full extent of this. we're particularly reliant on the dover—calais crossing.
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i met, er, borisjohnson once. the doubters, the doomsters, the gloomsters, they are going to get it wrong again. remainers and leavers, that's going to end well! a process which i can only describe as a dog's brexit. well, it's chris at westminster. laura in westminster. and... it's katya in westminster. and that's what happens when i'm not with adam! he needs me back. he went out of the office like that. 0h! it's the human withdrawal agreement! that is a work of art. yeah. i need to somehow get this off now. go on, then. let's see. i want to watch this. go on. it's not really striptease music we need really at this point, is it? i hope not! stripping on late—night television! right. it's a different kind of late—night... there you are! aw! actually, when we saw the costume, i did think, oh, hejust did that in the office. but, no.
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in front of all those people he wants to interview at a later stage. there you are! so, we've been waiting for hallowe'en. could you tell it was me under there? no! so, we have been waiting for hallowe'en for quite a long time, haven't we? we have. brexitcasters, though, have been doing their thing. 0h! because danny tweeted us this... a brexitcast pumpkin. look at that. others: ooh! now, that is a work of art. yes, the brexitcast one's slightly cheating, look, they're just drawn on. it gets better. and they got the font right, which is very hard to do on a pumpkin. they got the font exactly right. very, very impressive. and stephen has been in touch as well, because his seven—year—old son dressed up as chris mason! aw! is his name chris mason? dressed up as me! well, what was meant to happen today, of course, along with hallowe'en, was brexit. the uk was meant to have left the eu today. yes. that is... that's correct. and therefore, it was a day that mark francois, the conservative mp...
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mmm. ..had made some predictions about. shall we have a listen? please. i think if we don't leave on the 31st of october, this country will explode. well, it's not quite midnight yet, so you never know! no. he might be right. midnight in brussels, 11 o'clock. but, i mean, there's no—one dead in ditches. no. er... no doing or dying, or... it's done. i'm really interested to know how much voters are going to be thinking about this, laura and chris. because so many... you know, that's mark francois, but we're talking about the prime minister. mm—hmm. ..who made some serious pledges overand overand over and over again about today. mmm. and the thing is, just like last time, all of us lot in the sort of political world have been counting down to a date until about three days before the day itself — at which point, we started counting down to another one. so there's the one at the end of january, but then there's also the one six weeks ahead of today, and the small matter of a general election. that's why we've always had it on a whiteboard in the office,
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so you can rub it out and start again! i don't know, in answer to your question, how much this is going to play in the election. now, it's absolutely clear, jeremy corbyn, his first big day on the campaign trail today, and part of his stump speech was — borisjohnson, he made this promise, the failure is his and his alone. and borisjohnson, on his first proper day on the campaign trail, was clear to say, it's parliament's fault! so i think we will have that kind of tit—for—tat, but ijust don't know how much of an impact it's going to have on how people vote in six weeks' time. because we live in a world of such volatile... mmm. such volatile politics. i don't think we can sit here tonight and say even what the main one, two or three issues will be in this campaign. even though all the conventional wisdom says, of course it's going to be about brexit. but who knows what will pop up? what we do know, though, is thatjeremy corbyn and borisjohnson both want to run sort of us and them campaigns, or them and us, or the other way round. let's hear from the prime minister. after three and a half years, it was perfectly obvious to me
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that this parliament isjust not going to vote brexit through. there are too many people who are basically opposed to brexit, who want to frustrate it. and so, the only thing we can really do now is go to our people, go to the country and say, come on, let's get this thing done. we've got an oven—ready deal, put it in the microwave as soon as we get back after the election on friday, on december 12th, get it done, and then let's get on with our domestic agenda. he's been out on the campaign trail today, as have i, in cambridge. he was at addenbrooke's hospital, where you saw that little clip there. where the shop in the hospital, by the way, furnished me with these very practical gloves for the campaign ahead. 0h! both stylistic for today and then practical for next season. they're a bit small, though. i think they may be children's gloves. but anyway... yeah. they were good value. do you know, on tuesday, when they were still having the vote about whether to have the election, i had proper anxiety.
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because in the morning, it looked like it was nailed on, it was going to happen. mmm. so i ordered three newjumpers, bargainjumpers, to keep warm on the campaign trail. 0h, right. and then mps started talking about more amendments, and then it felt like it might not go through. and i was thinking, i've already ordered my jumpers! anyway, there is a purpose for the jumpers, and jeremy corbyn was out on the trail in the marginal seats in london, and then he went off somewhere else. this was what he was talking about this morning. this election is a once—in—a—generation chance to transform our country, to take on the vested interests that are holding people back and ensure that no community, in any part of this country, is ever left behind again! cheering and applause so... we are going after the tax dodgers. we're going after the dodgy landlords. we're going after the bad bosses. we're going after the big polluters. because we know whose side we — the labour party — are on!
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so, we're into an election campaign now. katya and adam, how does it look from where you guys are in brussels? and what do they make of the fact that, you know, here we are in an election campaign. they've talked about democratic events but, of course, we don't know what the outcome might be and where it leaves the brexit process. well, i think, first of all, when we heard borisjohnson there saying, you know, we have to have an election because this parliament was never going to pass the brexit bill, the withdrawal agreement, the newly—negotiated brexit deal, i think that there are quite a few snorts coming from across the rest of europe, because they'd have liked to see parliament give it a try. mmm. because they saw that, you know, the second reading was approved by a majority, they were really heartened by that. mmm. i know emmanuel macron was very keen to have an election to support borisjohnson in that. but you have to understand, like, inside the head of monsieur macron is his desperation really to show marine le pen and her followers that he will never stand in the way of a democratic vote. don't forget, he stands again and again and again against the populists in france, if you let me use that word. mm—hmm. so, he wants to stand clearly
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to say, i never stood in the way of this brexit vote. i am not standing in the way at all. but for other eu leaders, they're saying, we've just negotiated a deal! listen, mate, give it a fair hearing in parliament, before you rush to an election — which, by the way, the eu is not convinced that... like, none of us know how it's going to turn out. could there be another hung parliament? yeah, sure. and what will that mean for a brexit deal? and that's why, you know, isn't it, adam, that we're often discussing that? we've nowjust passed another brexit extension and the eu is getting ready to be asked for yet another one, come the 31st ofjanuary. and not with relish, may i add? so, adam, what are people doing in brussels? i mean, what's michel barnier up to? and all the taskforce 50 people? i'm sure they're all busy with important work. or maybe, were theyjust watching you walk around wearing the withdrawal agreement?! i don't know. avoiding me like the plague, when i was dressed like the withdrawal agreement. which i thought they'd enjoy. you'd think they'd be rushing out and, like, kissing it and hugging it and signing it! well, no, it's an interesting combination, in that you've got...
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so, i had lunch with someone today who's worked every single day for the last two and a half years on brexit. they're going off to a different job. lots of other people have moved on because they thought brexit would be done by now. so, actually, the number of people who've got real, real knowledge and a real sort of passion for this issue is starting to dwindle. and then, that'll be dramatised in a few weeks, when charles michel takes over from donald tusk as president of the european council. yeah. his approach may be very different. bearing in mind back in the mists of time, when we were discussing a brexit extension for the first time ever, belgium was one of the countries saying, maybe there shouldn't be an extension at all. oh, yeah. so how does that translate when he becomes the ringmaster for the summits? 0h. then, of course... but then, on the other side, there are some people who are definitely going to be staying around. michel barnier... mmm. ..as the head of taskforce 50, will become the head of the uk taskforce. and so, that starts on the 16th of november. and so the european commission, the technocrats, they're going full steam ahead with the preparations for the future relationship negotiation. mm—hmm.
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but the big thing, of course, everybody's got their eye on — as katya was saying — is the result, and just whether that is a sustainable basis for everything that has got to come next. so, not only is that whoever wins — quote, unquote, air quote — do they have a big enough majority to get the deal through? true, true. but then to not just get the deal through, but there's all sorts of milestones coming up. like, parliament has to approve the mandate for the uk's negotiations for the trade deal. then, not even that, you've got then the extension to the transition decision that has to be decided nextjune. and then there's the years and years and years of other big decisions. mmm. and that's why somebody winning with an unstable or small majority, whatever, that mightjust be... or no majority. it might finish everyone off. but even in parenthesis, what's finishing them off before... i mean, michel barnier, as adam said, is galloping off, you know, he has this newjob heading towards him. but what, whisper it quietly, if there were another request to re—open, re, re, re, re, re—open the withdrawal agreement? and the thing is, i was talking to,
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you know, one of my contacts and i was saying, you know, when the eu is saying, like, along with our extension, we have a declaration that will accompany it. and, you know, i said, so are you going to put in there that you'll never open the withdrawal agreement again? and he sort of — there's a lot of snorting going on in brussels. he sort of, he did a quiet snort—ish, and he said... just to calibrate the volume of these things. he said, we could write it, but it would be worth as much as it was when we wrote it last time, so no—one can rule anything out at this stage. and the interesting thing, you know, listening to you guys talking about the context around the withdrawal agreement and where parliament might be after the general election, all the rest of it, having been on the road today in cambridgeshire, is that sense from the prime minister, yes, making the case about wanting to ratify the withdrawal agreement, and as he describes it, get brexit done, or at least get it over this first hurdle, but also his intense focus today on domestic stuff, what he called the people's priorities, talking about the nhs, talking about schools, talking about the police. trying to, i guess, learn some of the lessons from the conservative perspective, in terms of what happened
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last time when labour were relentless about all of that. yeah, that's the irony, the tories do not want this to be a brexit election, they want this to be an election that allows them to cross the threshold, to, you know, to be able to move on from this. but it is the inability to pass the brexit deal through parliament that has caused this election. there will always be a bit of a kind of, you know, sliding doors, parallel universe moment. what would have happened, had johnson carried on getting through the deal in parliament? the reality is, they made a political judgment that it wasn't going to be possible, or even if it was potentially possible one day, it would have inevitably led to more delay, and what is the number—one focus? we've said it before, what is the number—one priority for borisjohnson‘s team in downing street? it's actually leaving as soon as they can. and the calculation was, even though they know it is a risky path, that winning an election — they hope — and then getting the existing deal through, zooming it through because they hope to have a majority, was faster and less risky than leaving it to parliament.
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but, you know, so now we're in an election, which is the biggest political event ever, with hugely uncertain outcomes. but even an election, even with, you know, brexit being on the table as the central issue and all the other issues as well. and the pumpkins. and the pumpkin hat. we've got to keep our eyes on the next generation. who are keeping their eye on us. so i'm going to introduce you to little laura, or laila to give her her proper name. nine—year—old listener to brexitcast. hello, laila. laila has sent us a fantastic picture, which we can show you now, which... i haven't seen the picture. which i think is — i mean, that is the laura pose, isn't it? she's been in my wardrobe! i was going to say it's the laura pose. yeah, the collar's up. and i think the, everything about the pose, the arm and all, even the hair's quite similar. i think that... and the do not question what i'm saying look! that is the phrase i was looking for. i am outraged that you might make that kind of suggestion, and i don't ever put my hand in my hair. and she's also in the podcasting world.
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oh, i do know about this. this is great. so we can have a listen. hi, guys, and welcome to politics goss. now, we have got some big news, and a big star coming right up. you probably won't have heard the news because it wasjust announced this morning, but we are going to bring you all the hot goss. aw! and i think she sounds a bit like you, laura, as well. what, you mean high pitched and really enthusiastic? and in her podcast hot goss, she has got an explanation of what we are about to embark upon, a general election. oh, good, i could do with one of them. for which person we want to be our memberof parliament, and the most people that vote fora certain, like, party, they will become the government. thank you for listening to this week's episode and we hope to see you next week. tell you what, she's better at time keeping than us. that's what dino's
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whispering in our ear. well, somebody who i notice had not really been that voluble well, nigel farage, leader of the brexit party. he has been very conspicuously quiet, which made me think what is he up to? actually it is because he was working the phones to get a massive guest for his show on lbc, donald trump. yes. you know the president of the united states have great relationships with many of the leaders, including boris, he is a fantastic man, and i think he is the exact right guy for the times. i know you and him will end up doing something that could be terrific, if you and he get together, you know, it's an unstoppable force, and corbyn would be so bad for your country. he would be so bad, he would take you in such a bad way, he would take you into such bad places, but your country has tremendous potential. it's a great country. i think it's fair to say it wasn't the spikiest interrogation a president might ever face. yes, it was on... but it was one heck of a get for lbc. it is, but do you remember the fuss when barack obama said, oh,
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the uk will go to the back of the queue if you leave the eu and everything, and the fuss about the interfering in an election. that was quite plain speaking. oh, yes. and there will be a big fuss about a foreign leader interfering in an election, no question. because it's not actuallyjust on one issue, donald trump there condemning jeremy corbyn, which he's kind of done that before, but to do it now, is quite something, and frankly, labour's probably delighted about that because their voters... speaks perfectly to what they wanted to say. exactly, and on the platform today, jeremy corbyn was standing condemning donald trump wanting to buy the nhs. but also for boris johnson, in that context it is pretty toxic, and he also questioned whether or not the us could do a trade deal with borisjohnson on the terms he'd just negotiated with the eu, so it is double difficult for downing street. what a terrible alliteration. double difficult. and in comes the triple, which i can't think of an alliteration for, around the whole question of the brexit party. and the conservatives.
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can they work together, might they work together? and the extent to which they work together and where they might not stand against each other, that kind of stuff, which we might hear some sort of ideas around tomorrow. yes. look, tory central office does not want to touch this with a barge pole. there are tory mps, and i think a minority of tory mps who think that in some seats it might help them to have a kind of not a formal pact, but at the very least an anti—hostility, but it is interesting adam, a few weeks ago the brexit party was briefing very heavily they were going to stand everywhere, they had all this money, they had all these amazing candidates, they were going to have this huge impact, and we know this week there's been all sorts of, well, i was going to say rumour, not rumour, you know, there've been a lot written about disagreements inside the party about the strategy, and a suggestion they might actually only end up really fighting about 20 seats. and remember, also, the brexit party is a risk potentially to labour mps, as well as tory mps,
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but it will really matter, they are launching on friday, and how they try to play it, is really going to be fascinating, and it might be one of those, to use a terrible election metaphor, it might be one of those dogs that doesn't bark, you know. it might not have much of an impact, or alternatively it could make a difference. and what about, because you know traditionally elections here are about two big parties. this time we're going to look at smaller ones to see the influence, the brexit party, but also, the liberal democrats. what kind of a role do you think that they might play, because if you do talk about an alliance, toxic or otherwise, likely or otherwise between the brexit party and the conservative party, what about the liberal democrats and the snp, the scottish nationalists together? could you even see an alliance that is an anti—brexit alliance? i think, as i understand it, there have been a few little conversations around the edges, so there are some seats, so for example dominic grieve, a massive part of the anti—brexit brigade in parliament in last couple of years. i think it's pretty much certain
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the liberal democrats aren't going to stand against him in his seat for example. we saw a similar thing in the by—election in mid—wales a couple of months ago, when there was an agreement between plaid and the greens that they wouldn't run against the liberal democrats with a similar motivation. and i think also, people campaigning for a second referendum will be trying to encourage members of the public to look and see who they should vote for tactically. i think actually one of the campaigns already has a sort of ready reckoner where you can put in your constituencies and it says who you should vote for. but i think, you know, tactical voting is one of these things we talk about at the beginning ofa campaign, and partly, we never know, because you can't get inside 30 million people's heads, but also itjust, itjust, it is not a very british way of voting, is it. you know, we are all about those oppositional big parties, and remember, in 2017, even though people talked about the smaller parties then, it is nearly 80% of people, people voted for the big two in bigger numbers
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than they had done forever, but the liberal democrat role this time is going to be really interesting. adam, you have a little plug to drop in our ear about you jumping on a eurostar or plane or whatever and coming over here for a little rebrand coming up. yes, so see this logo here, brexitcast. the first bit is going to be replaced by the word "election", because we are going to do electioncast. every single day. monday, tuesday, wednesday, friday. with your classic brexitcast on a thursday. so i will be in westminster. i think it sounds like a bar of chocolate, but that's maybe the difference between you and i. so where ever you get brexitcast, whatever podcasting platform you use, electioncast will pop up in your feed, so don't be alarmed, it will still be us, and we will still be talking about the stuff we've just talked about now. so... and you may see us on television as well. oh, really? what, more than once a week? can we inflict that on people?
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shall we talk briefly about, laura, the people standing down from parliament. because there has been something of a thing, hasn't there, rumbling in the last few days, particularly about the number of women standing down. now some have been pointing out that the number and proportion isn't necessarily greater than in parliaments closing of past, but the kind of things that particularly women who are standing down are saying around the whole issue of abuse and social media and the toxic environment, as many describe it as westminster, is quite striking. it is striking, and i think it is disturbing, and for any of us who work round here, we are all very well aware that it is a problem, and it's been a huge issue for particularly female mps, but notjust female mps, and people have panic alarms in their houses. people have been sentenced in court for harassing mps. this is a very real and present thing, danger actually, for a lot of people. that said, i think one of the things that is also true is the visibility of the stuff, so when a parliament packs up
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and we go into an election, there is always loads of people who stand down, but the age of twitter and social media, it is all so visible, and so out there. i mean, i remember previous elections, you go, oh, you come back afterwards and go, oh, right, ok. but isn't there something about the politics of those standing down, that many of those standing down are more either remainery or soft brexity? from the one nation conservative there's a large proportion of people standing down. it is true some household names from that side of the tory party are going, that is certainly true, categorically. i think we have to kind of wait and see, actually, because there may be more people who are going to stand down. i think we have to wait and see actually, once we get the final numbers, before we can sort of actually make any definitive tally about who went from which side of the party. that said, there's absolutely a feeling inside the conservative party, that, you know, all need not apply right now. and those who left, only some are allowed to come back, right. yeah. so of the 21 who lost the whip.
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or at least stand on a conservative ticket. stand on a conservative ticket. but that's, i mean, it sort of all gets, because there's so many people involved here, it all gets quite kind of quite muddy and messy. you know what what i was really struck by today, coming back to westminster — i mean, only a day out and about on the road is when you get off the tube and you walk past parliament, the atmosphere outside parliament, although a lot of the abuse that mps have suffered, you know, via mail or e—mail or social media or whatever it is, but even just walking past parliament, i suddenly thought i've got so used to it ijust regarded it as normal. it was only going out, leaving westminster, leaving london, going out on the campaign trail, for a day, that is all it was, one day, you come back and really struck by how hostile the atmosphere is, just as you're working your way through the crowds in the direction of parliament, in the direction of the media, it is really quite something, which we've almost got used to. it has become really normal that you walk along and someone shouts abuse at you. and you just carry
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on because it's normal. this little button that i carry. we have brexit bigger forbidding excellent. what happens at the uk is still a member in amount months of time goerges the speaker will be missed. this is one of these people who everybody loved. what is going on in politics it? order! this was someone who was very larger—than—life character for europeans watching. almost as famous as vicky pollard.
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lorraine vasil levski stadium lower is pitching for the job, though order, order! goodbye, britain. some pretty lively weather and therefore the rest of this afternoon and into this evening. not everywhere, but some of us are seeing some heavy rain combined the strong, blustery winds, as well. this picture was taken a little while ago by one of our weather watchers. big waves along the south coast in particular. several flood warnings in force, as well. with that combination of gale force just went and heavy rainfall we are likely to see by the disruption to travel. they have been lots of trees down, power cuts and several
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firework displays cancelled this evening. particularly across a part of england. that is a b have most of the isobars on the map. lilo pressure less but further north, they went is not strong likes of northern england and north wales, too. but pretty wet and windy across northern part of scotland. in fact, winds here 60 miles an hour. a little bit dreyer up to a challenge, but still strong and gusty winds and southern parts of england and wales. gradually do the latter part of this evening and overnight, they went to attendees way and they washed out the heavy rain, too. by the time we get to tomorrow morning, a different feel to the weather. not as windy, could be some misty patches, particular northern ireland and into north wales in limitless committee. temperature 68 degrees first thing tomorrow. we still have this area of low pressure weather is, but not as many isobars on the map. when not be producing this really strong, destructive went that we have seen a 30 day. sales in blustery showers
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tomorrow, especially for is a part of scotla nd tomorrow, especially for is a part of scotland and north—east england. the moving on to the southwest ledger in the day, as well. in between a lot of drier and brighter weather. a return to sunnier skies and less windy conditions than today. temperatures somewhere between ten to a0 degrees. still reasonably mild and things will start to turn a little bit colder as we had with the new working week. for a monday itself, low—pressure still very much with us. not as windy as it has been, but still some showers for parts of southern scotland, northern england and with. by scotland, northern england and with. by the south, heavy and sundry dampers are times, take a stop but not be running all the time, too. the rail base and towards the midlands and eastern england, as well. you will notice those temperatures started to dip into the middle of the week. so, single figures there must this week. still u nsettled figures there must this week. still unsettled with further spells of rain at times. but after the strong wind that we have got out there today, it will be a quieter day tomorrow. let spend it with a mix of 00:29:00,548 --> 4294966103:13:29,430 sunshine and showers.
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