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parts of england and wales, especially the further south you are. a lot of cloud for northern england, northern ireland and scotland with some outbreaks of rain but not too much for north—west scotland. in fact, many of us here will stay dry. blustery in scotland, an easterly wind along the south coast of england with a south or south—westerly wind coming in here and cooler weather developing on tuesday, as we see the arrows pointing down to the north, low pressure moving away. still a few showers around but many of us seeing some drier and in places sunnier conditions as well. there is a colder, drier lull in the weather and there will be frost around as wednesday begins. that is all happening midweek but then later in the week, i'm afraid, the rain comes back. hello. this is bbc news. we'll be taking a look at tomorrow morning's papers in a moment.
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first, the headlines. a third world cup for south africa, beating england in the final, the victory injapan sparks wild celebrations from sprinbok fans across the globe. amazing, amazing, amazing! the first springboks team captained by a black player. nelson mandela's grandson told the bbc this victory is a symbol of unity and change since the end of apartheid. this demonstrates that the rainbow nation is alive and it's real and it can become even better. the government halts fracking for gas in england until there's evidence the controversial process is safe. high winds and rain sweep across southern england and wales — with one woman killed after her car was struck by a falling tree in dorset.
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hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. with me are martin lipton, who's chief sports reporter at the sun, and bonnie greer, playwright, author and columnist for the new european newspaper. many of tomorrow's front pages are already in. the observer leads with the news that conservative‘s plan to set up an emergency unit to ensure that the nhs doesn't become an electoral liability for tories. the independent reports that the former liberal democrat leader vince cable has called on the voters to vote tactically in order to stop brexit. the sunday telegraph says that members of thejewish community are so fearful of a corbyn government that they will leave if he becomes pm.
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the sunday express has an interview with the prime minister on its front page. borisjohnson says that voters should back him in order to get brexit done. the sunday times says borisjohnson is facing a corbyn bounce, whilst also featuring a photo of a dejected looking billy vunipola after england lost to south africa. the sunday mirror reveals that photos of the body of amelia bambridge who died whilst backpacking can be found online. the mail on sunday reveals that prince charles is at the centre of an art scandal after it was claimed a painting was a forgery, and not a £50 million monet. those and not a £50 million monet. are the front pages. start those are the front pages. let's start off with a chat, bonnie and martin. the observer, springboks victories, we have to start off on a
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high. i'm not sure if there is a high. i'm not sure if there is a high because england lost! yes, england lost and but you can't have imagined this a quarter of a century ago. this team, the springboks, is not only a rugby team, it represented white supremacy, it was white supremacy, it was the right state. it was apartheid. to have this young man as the captain, to have them win the world cup. just extraordinary statement about how far the country has come it is a symbol of hope and south africa deserves and needs that right now. think of nelson mandela now, think of madiba looking at this and saying how incredible it is and he prophesied this as well. it certainly gives people in south africa something to see themselves asa africa something to see themselves as a possibility. his speech was so wonderful and so humble and
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beautiful as well. it was a great victory, and they were the better team. it was an exciting tournament, wasn't it? it was, actually, some fantastic matches, i thinkjapan we re fantastic matches, i thinkjapan were brilliant hosts and played really well as well with wins over ireland and scotland, fantastic for them, although not for ireland and scotland. england's performances against australia and particularly new zealand were terrific and they fell short on the final day, that is the best south africa have played without question throughout, they we re without question throughout, they were brilliant on the day, they don't play beautiful rugby but they played rugby beautifully today and they deserved to win and i think... it is interesting the observer has gone with a photo of the exultant south africans and the other papers have shown mournful pictures of england players who were devastated by the nature of their defeat and understandably so. they have to start again, four years of hard work ending up with nothing. they have to build to the next one. a lot of people say the final was played against new zealand a week ago, what do you think? it wasn't because
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neither new zealand or england won it so clearly it wasn't. but it brought out the strength. it so clearly it wasn't. but it brought out the strengthli it so clearly it wasn't. but it brought out the strength. i think england played brilliantly last week and they did not play as well the day. if you don't play well against good teams, you lose. it was always going to be quite a tight game and in the end it was a blow out because south africa were infinitely better. what fascinates me is eddie jones says he does not know what happened. that is an interesting thing to say. imean, you that is an interesting thing to say. i mean, you can look at the game and say you can kind of see but when the coach says he does not know what happened, what do you say after that? that is interesting. happened, what do you say after that? that is interestingli happened, what do you say after that? that is interesting. i think it isa that? that is interesting. i think it is a way of avoiding blaming anyone, you don't want to blame yourself because it is a sign of wea kness yourself because it is a sign of weakness from a coach, you don't wa nt to weakness from a coach, you don't want to blame the players that you still have to work with. but saying he does not know, there is something odd, saying he does not know. 0therwise odd, saying he does not know. otherwise you just blame the m ista kes otherwise you just blame the mistakes and there were too many of those and if you make mistakes and good teams, you lose. white matter and the weight of expectation. to a degree, they went and did not
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perform and it was the right result. let's turn to the sunday times and it is double trouble for boris, why is that? i think it is the first poll which shows a rise in labour support, albeit with the tories going up as well but labour have got six points over two days, trailing by 12 points now and the suggestion is it is becoming a two horse race, that the leave out goes to the toys but the remain vote which people thought might be split between the lib dems and labour, may be moving towards labour, and the tories need a majority, remember. a hung parliament would be a defeat for johnson, he needs to win. i think the likelihood is if these polls are true, anything between eight and 16 points, a tory lead today, that is anywhere between a0 seats and 200 seat. but remember the last time. absolutely and things change. exactly. whether they change as they did last time is another thing, can
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the tories run as bad a campaign as they did two years ago? i would be surprised. is it likely labour will be able to pick up as many votes in the campaign as they did two years ago? the campaign as they did two years ? i the campaign as they did two years ago? i would the campaign as they did two years ago? iwould be the campaign as they did two years ago? i would be surprised but we will find out in the next six weeks. the tory strategy was the rugby league countries, they would go to the north and see if they could take those seats in labour leave areas, they think they can do that, that is going to be interesting to see if it can happen. what do you think this general election is going to achieve? i hope clarity. ifear general election is going to achieve? i hope clarity. i fear more of the same model. i think one way 01’ of the same model. i think one way or the other, we need a decisive result for the country, to either go one way 01’ result for the country, to either go one way or the other, because if we continue in the same path of nothingness, the divisions are only going to get deeper, i think, in some ways and there are clearly divisions in the country. it is a bad idea to do it now. i can understand why labour wanted to do it because of course, they are a party of government so you want to
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try to do this and you can't step back and say you don't. i can understand why they went for it. back and say you don't. i can understand why they went for itm took long enough. yes, but i can understand why they did. the country and the electorate feels like it is not in any shape to actually deal with the issues other than anger, rage or impatience. so whoever wins the election, the assumption is they have a mandate. what we have learned as the british public is the way parliament works, a huge lesson, steep learning curve, amendments have been thrown, left right and centre, we have seen the chaos they have caused. couldn't that happen ain? have caused. couldn't that happen again? it depends on the size of the majority. i think a lot of the previous remain macro tories are not sounding, are out of the party, and will more likely be replaced by leave tories in those safe seats or seats. if those seats are retained, then the whole, even if exactly the
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same numbers, then the make—up of parliament would change. you know what? what i feel most alarmed about it so many people in this country don't accept the fact that the parliament is themselves as seated at westminster. if they think it is something else, that is when we are ina lot something else, that is when we are in a lot of trouble. the government is not the people. parliament is the people. if we don't know how to elect people who go there and do what they think is best for the country, and we don't believe we can, then we are in deep trouble. 0k, talking about the vote, lots of talk about the brexit party diluting the vote but let's turn to the independent and strategy being touted by vince cable to vote tactically. —— michael another strategy. vince cable lost his seat in 2015 and then regained it but he is now standing down from parliament. he says in the column he writes for the independent, which you may be unaware is not actually a
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newspaper but there we go, that voters should abandon their tribal loyalties and cast their ballots tactically to block brexit. i suspect he is really talking to remainers here because i don't think many leavers will vote tactically to stop brexit. he will say that whoever is best placed to beat the tories should get the bulk of votes in each constituency. but what you have these issues about who is the best place to do that. in each individual constituency.” best place to do that. in each individual constituency. i think what brexit has done is made two camps and you can put yourself in one of the other. i think europe is the least of what brexit is about. to say vote tactically, it is about crossing out of your tribe and going into where you feel. i think that might happen. it is easy enough to say, we know what the tories stand for, under this prime minister, they wa nt to for, under this prime minister, they want to get out of europe very
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quickly. the lib dems want to stay. let's make sure we get to the next paper, though, and the sunday telegraph, there are some people who are not too happy about what labour stands for, jewish people will leave ifjeremy corbyn wins.” stands for, jewish people will leave if jeremy corbyn wins. i said earlier that i could not get into an argument with the jewish community or how those people feel, they feel what they feel about the labour party, that is their right, they are the experts and i defer. i'm talking about the headline and then the next headline in this thing says some people. isn't that too many, though? is it any too many? if there is a view in thejewish community... is it any too many? if there is a view in the jewish community... i'm not talking philosophically. but evenif not talking philosophically. but even if 1% of britishjewish people wa nt to even if 1% of britishjewish people want to leave, that is a disgrace.” am saying what the story is about, this is the whole community that is what you would infer if you read it and that is not right, it is not a right thing to say. it stirs up deep fear. that is not what the story is
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even about. that is my point. this is purely partisan power play by james cleverley, but there is no... as he says, as i said earlier, it is such a good quote, they have used it quite —— twice in the story come on the front page and in the paragraph, it talks about a number ofjewish people fearful of a jeremy corbyn led labour government, a number of their myjewish friends of the order that said if corbyn got anywhere near the levers of power they would be out of here. and he says he never thought he was here that in his lifetime. i don't know who he has spoken to but what i do know without question is that a large number of british jewish people fear and believe... british jewish people fear and believe. . . that british jewish people fear and believe... that is not what that line so. that the biggest problem with the labour party is anti—semitism stopping my argument is that is not what the headline says, i don't disagree but that is not the headline says. on that point, moving to page five of the sunday times, unilever and heinz paying for ads on pornography site that hosts child sex abuse. well,
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that hosts child sex abuse. well, thatis that hosts child sex abuse. well, that is what it says. have you got it? if you look at that website, they have got stuff on there that is about watching school kids and stuff like that. that is child sex abuse. they have apologised and said that they won't do that again and they did not mean to do that. why didn't they check this out before they did it? we are talking about huge companies, unilever and heinz it? we are talking about huge companies, unileverand heinz are massive. apparently this is pornhub, which i don't have a great deal of knowledge about, thankfully, but the story says the global consumer giants unilever and kraft lines have come underfire giants unilever and kraft lines have come under fire for advertising on the world's most popular pawn website etc. so they did not look at the content. did they know? if these are rented in companies, you do your research. you would have thought people at these couplings would have checkedit people at these couplings would have checked it out. quickly, the mail on sunday front page, charles it by
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fa ke sunday front page, charles it by fake art. yes, monet for nothing! can we end on that? boom boom! these are paintings that prince charles has a loan from james stunt, allegedly worth millions of pounds but apparently, they were drawn or painted by some american fraudster by the name of tony tetra, who claims that he did them and that they are not manet boro, picassos and dalis after all. why is this a headline? it is just and dalis after all. why is this a headline? it isjust a ridiculous, fun story. he has not paid for them because you know, they are on loan. no money has passed. prince charles has got lots of fake paintings on the walls of his various houses and thatis the walls of his various houses and that is a funny story. but it is just one of them. it speaks a lot about the forger‘s skill, doesn't it? yes. i don't understand why it is even here. isjust good fun. but
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