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you're watching beyond 100 days. new transcripts are released from two key witnesses in the us impeachment inquiry. the serving us ambassador to the eu says things got more insidious as time went on when it came to ukraine investigating the bidens. ambassador sondland says he couldn't get a straight answer from the white house as to why the aid to ukraine was being held up. but the president kept telling him to talk to rudy giuliani. it's election season on both sides of the pond. tonight the british parliament is dissolved with just over five weeks to the vote. and here we are exactly a year away from the 2020 election. tonight we will be in new hampshire.
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voters in the rest of the country thing? i be in new hampshire to find out. also on the programme. senior conservative jacob rees—mogg says he is profusely sorry after claiming it would have been common sense for the grenfell residents to ignore advice to stay inside a burning building. and a case of wine is sent to the astronauts at the international space station. sadly they are not allowed to drink it. hello and welcome — i'm michelle fleury in washington and christian fraser is in london. within the last half hour two new transcripts have been released from witnesses who came before the impeachment inquiry. kurt volker, the special represetnative for ukraine negotiations and gordon sondland, the us ambassador to the eu are key figures and now everyone is pouring over their words. ambassador sondland testified that things kept getting more insidious as time went on —
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regarding demands that ukraine investigate the bidens. and it comes as house impeachment investigators are seeking a deposition of acting chief of staff mick mulvaney on friday. the bbc‘s north america editorjon sopel has been speed reading the documents. i want to pick up with gordon sondland, he was seen as a figure who was perhaps more friendly to donald trump. what stood out from his transcripts? gordon sondland is the ambassador to the european union and has been appointed by donald trump. he is not a career diplomat, he was a fundraiser for the trump campaign, a trumpet loyalist who gets rewarded with this posting of the eu ambassador. he gets closely involved in all of this. what stands out absolutely is the centrality of rudy giuliani to everything. he was
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be final three which everything had to pass. donald trump has maintained there was no quid pro quo. we didn't stop military aid to ukraine in return for a statement aboutjoe biden‘s son and this company he was involved with. but you have the absolutely clear statement from ambassador sondland, he acknowledged telling one of president zielinski's advisors in warsaw that resumption of us aid would likely not occur until ukraine provided the anti—corruption until ukraine provided the anti—corru ption statement. that public anti—corruption anti—corru ption statement. that public anti—corru ption statement anti—corru ption statement. that public anti—corruption statement as we hear about in the statement from kurt volker goes backwards and forwards and rudy giuliani is insisting the anti—corru ption statement must have mention of the company that hunter biden was involved with. it looks like there was a relationship between holding up was a relationship between holding up the aid and getting that
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statement. something donald trump has repeatedly denied. statement. something donald trump has repeatedly deniedli statement. something donald trump has repeatedly denied. ijust want to redo something from the transcript of kurt volker. he was asked, rudy giuliani was the problem? the asked, rudy giuliani was the problem ? the negative asked, rudy giuliani was the problem? the negative narrative about the ukraine, he replied, which rudy giuliani was furthering was the problem. it wasn't my view, it was impeding my ability to build the relationship. what you have is the president who is a ukraine sceptic. he doesn't much like ukraine but he has also bought into a conspiracy theory that in the 2016 election it wasn't the russians interfering with the election, it was the ukrainians interfering and making it look like it was the russians. it is kind of convoluted but that was broadly in it. the corruption thing got morphed into that and about getting dirt on joe biden and hunter biden. essentially, the charge is that
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donald trump was using us foreign policy as a tool for his political advantage domestically on the 2020 campaign to discreditjoe biden. the messengerfor all campaign to discreditjoe biden. the messenger for all of campaign to discreditjoe biden. the messengerfor all of that campaign to discreditjoe biden. the messenger for all of that was rudy giuliani. what you're saying, it seems to me that it's going to be even more difficult for republicans to argue that there was no quid pro quo. the strategy we've seen over the last week is that they are going to say there was a quid pro quo but it doesn't rise to the level of high crimes and misdemeanours, it's not an impeachable offence.” crimes and misdemeanours, it's not an impeachable offence. i think you put yourfinger on it. i think reading this testimony, and it's a good thing the camera shot is wider because you'll see the mess of papers in front of me, trying to figure out the key passages. it seems to me the key passage is the acknowledgement there is some kind of quid pro quo. i think that makes donald trump ‘s current defence unsustainable. you cannot repeat the
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testimony of people giving on oath and gordon sondland someone appointed by donald trump, he is not pa rt appointed by donald trump, he is not part of the deep state, he was a trump fundraiser. you hear him saying there was clearly relationship between america receiving military aid to ukraine and getting a statement that would be damaging to joe and getting a statement that would be damaging tojoe brydon. you could say it's not a high crime and misdemeanour, you could say the president can do what you want,, you could say it doesn't add up to a row of beans on the president should be able to conduct foreign policy in the way he sees fit. hard to maintain as donald trump has done consistently that there was no quit baroque way. at midnight tonight, the british parliament will be dissolved. the parties now have just over five weeks until the country decides. the prime minister will be launching the conservative campaign tomorrow in the west midlands, a leave area where they are battling for a number of labour seats. jeremy corbyn who was in harlow,
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essex today, another leave area, says his brexit policy really isn't that complicated. he would negotiate a third withdrawal deal he says and put it to a second referendum within six months. today was the official launch for the liberal democrats. their leaderjo swinson says her party is the true choice for remainers, a vote for her is a vote to stop brexit. she claims that if the uk stays there will be a ‘remain bonus', money that could be ploughed into public services. she even has a sum in mind — £50 billion. the figure comes from the party's own forecast that the economy will be 1.9% bigger in 2024 if brexit doesn't happen. when we stop brexit, we will be able to use that remain bonus to invest in our public services. we are the only party standing up to say that we will stop brexit and build a brighterfuture. and everybody knows brexit has taken longer and cost more than anyone said that it would.
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but any type of brexit will damage our economy, will costjobs and starve our public services of the resources that they need. so, we know that that remain bonus will be £50 billion that we can spend on our public services, investing in our schools and the welfare system to help the poorest in our society. let's check in with our political correspondent, helen catt, who's in westminster. we are only into the first week of the campaign and we had so many numbers today, michael gove saying we can get a free trade deal within a year, we've got £50 billion of a remain bonus from the lib dems and jeremy corbyn saying we can get a deal and a second referendum in six months. does any of this adult? get your calculators and diaries out because you will get a lot more of
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these figures. let's take a few of those. the figure liberal democrats have put on their remain bonus, as they call it, or £50 billion. that is over five years. you're talking about 10 million —— £10 billion a year. it is true that the vast majority of analysts agree that the uk economy would be bigger staying inside the eu but putting a precise figure on it has been quite difficult. it's also worth saying that £10 billion a year isn't actually that much money when you think about the entirety of government spending. you mentioned also this idea ofjeremy corbyn saying he could get brexit done in six months. to take a look at that, he is suggesting that he could renegotiate a new deal within three months with eu and then put that to a referendum against that and remain
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and get that done within six months. the constitution unit at university couege the constitution unit at university college london has suggested it ta kes 22 college london has suggested it takes 22 weeks to have a referendum campaign so it is possible but it's tight. i'm curious about the remain vote, the voters i should say. are they likely to be split or torn between the lib dems and labour? his policy will appeal more? this is going to be one of the defining questions, where does that remain vote go? the lib dems are keen to put that pitch that they are the party who say they will just stop it out right if they were to get a majority. it's worth pointing out that at the moment the lib dems have 20 mp5. that at the moment the lib dems have 20 mps. to get a majority in parliament you need 326. it would be looking at an enormous mountain to climb. the question becomes, the
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people who would prefer to stay in the eu rally behind the lib dems with a clear policy or do they rally behind jeremy corbyn and the labour party with the promise of a new fake two ? party with the promise of a new fake two? but the thing about labour's policy is that while they would renegotiate a deal which would be much closer to what we have while we are in the eu, a new customs union, single market, guarantees on goods, so single market, guarantees on goods, so closer than what borisjohnson has negotiated and then they would put that to a referendum with the other option being remain, the party won't actually decide whether it would back it steel or remain until after those negotiations have finished. —— back its deal. after those negotiations have finished. -- back its deal. no doubt we will be talking about this a lot more over the next few weeks. thank you. two and a half years on from the majorfire in a london tower block that killed 72 people, politicians continue to express
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their horror at the atrocities and pledge their support for the victims and their families. but it was comments made by the conservative mp jacob rees—mogg, that have attracted criticism for appearing to do the opposite. on a radio phone—in this morning, he said it was "common sense" for people to flee grenfell tower, despite being against the express instructions of the fire brigade. take a listen. if you just ignore what you're told and leave, you are so much safer. and i think if either of us were in a fire, whatever the fire brigade said, we would leave the burning building. it just seems the common—sense thing to do. he was making those comments having read the report over the weekend. mr rees mogg has profusely apologised. "i profoundly apologise. what i meant to say is that i would have also listened to the fire brigade's advice to stay and wait at the time. however, with what we know now and with hindsight i wouldn't and i don't think
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anyone else would." "i would hate to upset the people of grenfell if i was unclear in my comments." and then to follow up on the apology conservative mp andrew bridgen appeared on bbc radio — here's part of that conversation. you you think he meant to say that he thought he would not have stayed put? that's what he meant to say... that is exactly what people object to, which is that he is in effect saying, i wouldn't have died because i would have been cleverer than the people who took the fire brigade's advice. he sighs. but we want very clever people running the country, don't we, evan? i remember in new york with the 9/11 towers going down, again, people we re towers going down, again, people were given similar advice to stay in the building. i think the instinct is to listen to those in authority. these comments are seen as particularly bad taste. what did
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harold macmillan say when he was asked what you fear the most? events, dear boy, events. five weeks isa events, dear boy, events. five weeks is a long time in politics and particularly in our politics. in a world of social media where things run and run, where a slip—up, in this case a monumental misreading of the situation unfolds, that can do u ntold the situation unfolds, that can do untold damage. what you get is jacob rees—mogg issuing an apology really quickly. and then you get andrew bridgen going on bbc radio and taking ajcb, bridgen going on bbc radio and taking a jcb, excavating the whole and putting it back in the public domain. it beggars belief. i'm sure conservative central office is having a sharp word. if he thought it was about the issues, its personalities as well. the election fever is spreading. here in the us, we are exacty one year away from the 2020 presidential election,
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and less than 100 days until the new hampshire presidential primary. and based on national polls, it is the former vice presidentjoe biden that remains the frontrunner in the race for the democratic presidential nomination. but the battle for the party nomination isn't a national contest. in new hampshire — the first in the nation primary state — bernie sanders or elizabeth warren are leading the polls. candidates have until november 15th to pay the $1,000 fee and file the necessary paperwork to get on the ballot. in 2016, there were 58 candidates in new hampshire's presidential primary so you can expect lots of politicians to be making the trip there in the coming weeks. and with more than four out of five voters still undecided, there is an enormous opportunity for lower—polling candidates to emerge. so, what are the issues that voters in new hampshire care most about? lets ask someone who now lives there, formerly of this parish, jane 0'brien. how lovely to see you! how is new
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hampshire? it is wonderful. it's raining at the moment but it's heaven on earth. it is a wonderful place to be. it's so funny... we are fulminating over the impeachment enquiry, it's what dominates washington. does it feel1 million miles away in new hampshire? parallel universe. there is a real disconnect which is so fascinating. listening to you talk about impeachment, this is the big issue they are just not talking about here. i've been to a couple of rallies, democratic rallies, the candidates have been coming through and they just candidates have been coming through and theyjust don't want candidates have been coming through and they just don't want to candidates have been coming through and theyjust don't want to know. democratic voters don't want to hear it, i think it's a foregone conclusion. they are really interested in the issues. republicans don't care because they say it's further evidence that there isa say it's further evidence that there is a political elite that is out to get their man. impeachment is just not a big factor. what is? well,
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ta ke not a big factor. what is? well, take a look at this. shifting winds over the presidential range — home to some of the most unpredictable weather in the world — i'm here to meet republicans who think the president will have better luck this time. he changed my whole outlook, because he's not a politician. he's a businessman running a business and this country needs it. and that changed my whole lifestyle and just gave me energy. but republicans here are a dwindling force. we are attracting people from the surrounding states that are overwhelmingly liberals.
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so, they say, hey, look over the border in new hampshire, it's pretty good over there. so they move here, but they bring their ideas with them — and they vote accordingly. of course, a lot depends on who democrats pick to challenge him. the democratic field is a bit like zeb's candy bar at the moment. you're kind of spoilt for choice. do you go for the jawbreaker, the gumball, the rock candy or, my personal favourite, the caramel cow tail? the point is they are all candy but they all appeal to different tastes. bernie sanders won the last primary in new hampshire and he is doing well in the polls right now. but many democrats have doubts about his ability to beat trump in a general election. there is momentum building for some of the candidates who are a little bit more moderate — at least in a state like this. because i think we have an understanding that if we swing too far to the left, without a deep divide as it is, that it'll make people unelectable.
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mobilisation is the key to 2020. given the tribal nature of american politics, few people are likely to change their minds or their party. polls suggest that independent voters are few and far between. the bigger question, then, is whether enough republicans will stay on board to give president trump another four years. i'm glad to learn that cow tales are your candy of choice. i was curious looking forward, what is the number one issue? what is your impression that they cared about most? health care, the economy? i think it's a mixture of all those things. it's certainly health care and how elizabeth warren's plan for medicare for all can be paid for by taxpayers who obviously don't want to be forking out a lot for that. it's also the economy and it's doing
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really well right now. i think the problem for president trump is that if he can dislocate himself, distance himself from the chatter in washington and associate himself with the feel—good factor that a lot of people really are experiencing, then he should be able to mobilise his pace and maybe get a few independents on board as well although i'm not sure how many of them there really are. we don't take any sites, we stand in the middle, but peat but a judge appeared on this programme so i have a bit of a sneaking admiration for him because he became on beyond 100 days and i read that in new hampshire he's coming up on the rails. he is percolating through the pulse and thatis percolating through the pulse and that is a problem forjoe biden because he has been positioning himself as a centrist candidate. he is doing the same thing and in the
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rallies i've been to, the overall opinion from democrats there is that joe biden is too old. he doesn't have any fresh ideas and once he loses that ability to promote himself as a centrist, where does he go? what else has he got? that's the question democrats have for him and when you see pete buttigieg coming up when you see pete buttigieg coming up through the pulse, it's a sign they are taking him very seriously which could also be a challenge for bernie sanders who everyone loves her. and also for elizabeth warren. the big takeaway is that the democrats are completely undecided. there is every indication they aren't going to make up their minds until the last minute. it could be sometime in february before we really know who they like.” sometime in february before we really know who they like. i know you're going to keep your finger on the pulse and keep us up—to—date on how people are feeling in new hampshire. thank you. several states are holding state and local elections today.
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in kentucky, mississippi, virginia and newjersey, voters are headed to the polls. joining me now is former advisor to george w bush, ron christie. thank you forjoining us. he saw donald trump last night in kentucky essentially stomping there for the local race. how much of these races are tied to 2020 and to a vote on the president? good afternoon. it's very important looking at these races in virginia and kentucky. this isa races in virginia and kentucky. this is a preview of 2020. you've seen the president go to kentucky, you've seen a the president go to kentucky, you've seen a number of contenders on the democratic side go to virginia. they are trying to say, we want to show we have some momentum going into 2020. that's why you are seeing both trump and the democrats go there.” couldn't not ask you about those transcripts which have just been released. what was your key takeaway is? my key takeaway is this
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shouldn't be happening in the intelligence committee. it should be happening in public not behind closed doors. however, it's very interesting how rudy giuliani's name comes up. interesting how rudy giuliani's name comes up. the former mayor of new york city. how is it he is so involved in american foreign policy? that is the baffling aspect. we just heard from john who said you read this and no longer can you stick to the argument that there is no quid pro quo. you could argue it doesn't rise to high crimes and misdemeanours but is that where the republican party is going to have to shift on this now? there was that quid pro quo but it's not an impeachable offence. that evening, christian. i think what republicans on capitol hill and those taking to the airwaves are saying is, why does this rise to the level of high crime and misdemeanour? first we heard about russia and then the robert mueller report came out. that was a dud. now many republicans are saying, is this something worthy to
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impeach the president? we will need 67 votes to convict and remove him from office which the odds are right now that will never happen. what are we doing, is it worth it to the country how we are so ideal logically broken apart right now, is it worth it to do this for the country? i want to ask you about the whistle—blower because we are moving into the public face of this enquiry. a lot of pressure coming to know who this whistle—blower is but he is of course protected by whistle—blower law. have a listen to senator rand paul last night talking about his identity. the whistle—blower needs to come before congress as a material witness, because he worked forjoe biden at the same time hunter biden was getting money from corrupt oligarchs. i say tonight to the media, do yourjob and print his name! if he had named him on that stage he
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would have broken the law so he's trying to get someone in the media to unmask him. how do you feel about that? i feel this individual should come to capitol hill and testify but they should have been behind a screen and alter their voice. i think the american people on something so grave as attempting to remove the president from office, that person needs to come forward and tell the american people why they were so upset. the thing that troubles me is that the whistle—blower allegedly had a comment from somebody else, this is what we call hearsay in american law, not a direct statement. for something of this magnitude, we need to hear from something of this magnitude, we need to hearfrom him. something of this magnitude, we need to hear from him. thank you. this is beyond 100 days from the bbc. coming up for viewers on the bbc news channel and bbc world news — warning words from on high for british politicians hoping to negotiate a trade deal with the eu. jean—claude juncker tells the bbc exclusively they should be thinking years rather months.
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and maggots in orangejuice and rat hairs in paprika? isjeremy corbyn right — is this really what we have to look forward to if the uk adopts us food standards? that's still to come. good evening, a day of mixed fortunes. for others, turning brighter. those brighter conditions have been spreading from the north. also some colder conditions spreading from the north. is that cold air continues to move south, things continue to turn chilly during tonight. we will see increasingly clear skies overhead, many showers away. we will keep some full coastal fringes. some many showers away. we will keep some full coastalfringes. some mist patches around as well. temperature is widely close to freezing. quite a widespread ground frost for tomorrow morning. it should be a fairly
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bright start with one or two showers for northern and eastern areas. not a bad start the day. as we get through the day, first of all this band of showers drifting in from the west and then more persistent rain starting to move into northern ireland, western wales and south—west of england. temperatures between 6—11. as we go through wednesday night, this band of rain moves further north—east and then becomes slow—moving as we get into thursday. this area of low pressure winding itself up on this front hangs across parts of england and wales. persistent rain, particularly for north wales, the midlands, east anglia. that rain likely to get into northern england at times. causing localised flooding and travel problems. to the south, a mixture of sunny spells and hefty showers. to the north, sunshine and showers.
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some of the major high ground in scotla nd some of the major high ground in scotland are likely to be wintry. 0n friday, the area of low pressure and the frontal system should move south—east. we will see a return to sunny skies but the winds will be coming in from the north or the north—east. it is going to be another chilly day. quite a widespread frost during friday night and then for the weekend, the return of some rain during saturday, some of some rain during saturday, some of that heavy and there could be something wintry mixed in over higher ground in the north.
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you're watching beyond 100 days. our top stories. new transcripts are released from two key witnesses in the us impeachment inquiry. the serving us ambassdor to the eu says things got more insidious as time went on when it came to ukraine investigating the bidens. the liberal democrats launch their election campaign — predicting a seismic change in british politics. also on the programme. the outgoing head of the european commission calls brexit "a story that's lasted too long". jean—claude juncker tells the bbc he believes the uk will leave the eu by the end of january. plus, why 12 bottles of fine red wine were delivered to the international space station on monday.
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if you lived in new hampshire right now you might swear the us presidential election was right around the corner with the number of candidates visiting your state — but no, there is still a year to go. the state is basicially home territory for bernie sanders and elizabeth warren and they are the front runners — but many are seeking to climb the ladder before the primary on february 11th. now, to look at what matters to voters in new hampshire, we'rejoined by thomas holmes, the town manager in conway. what does a town manager do, before we start? it is a sort of bureaucratic version of america, we are not elected but selected to run the day—to—day operations of the community. tell me what matters to people in new hampshire, to the
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events in washington matter or other things much more local? they generally are more local, new hampshire has a tradition of being very independent and all politics is local as a famous politician once said. but because of our status as first in the nation primary we do keep ourfingers on first in the nation primary we do keep our fingers on the pulse of the national politics. use that term first in the nation primary, just explain that, how does new hampshire shape what happens in the primary season? it is one, it is the first opportunity for candidates to get out amongst the people face—to—face and also probably the last opportunity to do so from a primary perspective as in the later stages you have clear frontrunners and a fundraising and donations become more important and advertising on
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television and radio and so forth. in new hampshire votes are gained in peoples living rooms and small community halls. there is a joke in new hampshire, what do you think of so—and—so running for president? i don't know, i've only met him twice! i was going to ask about the issues but in 2016 and looking ahead to 2020, are the same issues central to the voters or something else?” believe the economy was the main issue in 2016 and will continue to be the economy in 2020. if the economy holds up then president trump isa economy holds up then president trump is a good chance of real action in spite of his troubles with the other party in washington. however if the economy slows down he could be in trouble. obviously
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nationally speaking we have seen the economy doing quite well, how are things on the ground where you are? 0n the ground here we are three and four season resort town, very popular, undeveloped lot of second home owners, most of property tax bills go to out—of—town owners and the big problem is housing, the economy so strong that the workforce has trouble finding a to live to be able to take jobs here. most businesses are looking for help but help is not here because there is no place for them to live. how many days, just over 100 days until the first primary, so when did things really get going in new hampshire? we are right in the thick of it right now, almost a weekly visit by
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some presidential candidates to the local newspaper and media and this will continue until there with the elements when the pecking order is set before they move on to i believe south carolina and so forth. and then people very quickly forget about new hampshire and we go back to our peaceful lives. thank you very much for coming on the programme. looking at midwestern states that will be key to president trump, some signs of economic downturn which could hit him just at the wrong time. that was part of the reason why i asked about the economy, there has been fresh data from the american central bank suggesting that nationally the economy is expected to grow next year but there are signs that in some of those key battle ground states which trump carried in 2016 you could start to see some weakness, states like pennsylvania,
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wisconsin, michigan. you could see some contraction there in the next six months and that could be problematic for the president who likes to brag about how well the economy has done under his stewardship. so we are looking at growth, unemployment, does kind of figures? yes but it is local and cou nty figures? yes but it is local and county and state level but you have to keep an eye on to see how that affects his election hopes in these particular areas despite the national picture looking more favourable to him. in an exclusive interview with the bbc, the outgoing president of the european commission, jean—claude juncker, has said he thinks britain will leave the eu by the end of january. once again mrjunkersaid he regretted not intervening during the referendum in 2016. but brexit he said has been a "long story" and must now be "brought to an end". 0ur europe editor, katya adler, has been putting to him some of the claims that have been made by the uk's main political parties on brexit. if we start with borisjohnson... i like him, by the way.
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so, he says, if he wins the election and the withdrawal bill is passed, then he thinks it's possible to get a new trade deal negotiated by the end of 2020. so, you know, in less than 12 months. is that possible? i don't want to be a prisoner of this timeframe. is it even possible? it took seven years to negotiate a deal with canada, for example. it takes time to negotiate a free—trade agreement. sometimes i have the impression that in britain, people, parliamentary representatives, government representatives, think that this is an easy thing to be done. it's not easy, because we were negotiating for years with canada. it could take time. can i have a look at some of the claims being made. so, the labour party, for example, says if it wins the general election it will renegotiate once again, so a third brexit deal. i will no longer be
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in office when this happens. and so it will be up to the next commission to decide yes or no, if there is room for manoeuvre for a new deal or a new treaty. honestly speaking, i don't think that this is a realistic approach. would you like there to be another referendum and the uk to give brexit another thought? the question of whether there should be a second referendum is a british issue. i don't think there will be a second referendum. the brexit party says that the new brexit, the withdrawal agreement, is not brexit. they say it's just not brexit, it's brexit in name only. is that a fair thing to say about boris johnson's deal with your commission? no, it's brexit. i'm not a supporter of mr farage. although i have seen on different tv shows that he likes me. that was a surprise.
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you made a bet at time of the referendum with the uk commissioner, and you pointed out that you thought that remain would lose the referendum. you bet him £1. just getting back to the 31st of january, this latest brexit extension, would you bet £1 that the uk will be out by the 31st of january? no more brexit extensions, do you think? this is a too long story, it has to be brought to an end. you've been in this job for a long time. would you be tempted to stay in your office until brexit is done or at least this phase of brexit? no, i've had brexit enough in my life. presidentjuncker, thank you for your time. it was a pleasure. the president of chile has told the bbc he won't resign over mass protests about living standards. sebastian pinera said he was doing everything he could to listen
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to demands of the demonstrators. while he's promised to increase wages and pensions and improve public services, many aren't satisfied and are calling for him to go. he's also facing criticism over what's being seen as a heavy—handed response to the protests by security forces. he spoke to our south america correspondent, katy watson. in the last two weeks we have experienced two different phenomena, of a very different nature. first, and this was absolutely unexpected, a huge wave of destruction, violence, that some people put in place in a very organised way. that violence cannot be admitted, that is not within the law. that is why we had to use a democratic and constitutional tool which is the state of emergency. to restore public order and to protect our citizens. another story, a very different story, is the legitimate
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manifestation and protest of the chilean citizens. first of all, we had to recover public order and protect the safety of our citizens. the second thing we did was to put in place a very strong social agenda. that is taking care of many of the demands and requests of the people. so we are listening, and we are reacting. but of course people have the right to protest, and we recognise that, and we protect that right, because that's part of our democracy. there is widespread condemnation of your forces, not just the army, but the police, of using excessive force on peaceful protesters. the un is currently in the country. how can you, as a leader, sit there and let that happen? because there are people who are scared, seeing the police on the street. i can guarantee you that for me, and for my government, the commitment with human rights is the most high and most strong commitment i can have.
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and that's why we took all the precautions. of course, there are many alleged complaints about excessive use of force, or even crimes. if that took place, i can guarantee you that will be investigated by our prosecuting system, and it will be judged by ourjudicial system. there will be no impunity. katy watson there. turning to food. what's the difference between this glass of orange juice i am holding here — and the one christian's has with him in london? well, according to jeremy corbyn there is a risk the one i am holding has a maggot in it. in a campaign speech today the labour leader accused the conservatives of trying to hijack brexit, to lower food standards to levels in the united states,
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where there are ‘acceptable levels' of rat hairs in paprika — and maggots in orangejuice. have you counted them? you have put me off! actually if he had really gone for broke, he could have talked about beetle eggs on asparagus spears. or the 30 per cent mould acceptable in cherry jam. in fact the more i read this handbook the more i wonder how anyone actually survives in america. 12 insect heads per 100 grams of fig paste is fine but 13 heads is over the limit? but of course what is really going on here is that the us has guidelines on the ‘maximum levels of natural or unavoidable defects in food. doesn‘t mean it is lawful to produce food that way, merely that in the eyes of the fda the presence of these things, in these quantities, won‘t harm you. are the standards really are any higher here? the eu does not set any ‘action levels‘ forforeign bodies in food.
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but i imagine there‘s a rat or two on the farms where ourfood is produced. in fact i think pretty much all myjam has mould on it. my my wife still uses a knife with butter on it, we have talked about this! i think there is some scaremongering going on here. i will drink this! but the fear is that it is about regulations, how strict should regulations be if you remember bse, the worst food scandal that we had in the united kingdom, pa rt that we had in the united kingdom, part of that had to do with the easing of rules and i think that is where the concern is as you start to look at the future of the uk and any trade deals that it would do. but more the fact that you live in a very litigious society. you allowed six rathaus not seven! if we go to
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court over seven then you‘re in trouble. —— right harris. moving on! this is beyond 100 days. still to come — we‘ll tell you about the bottles of bordeaux wine that have been sent to space — all in the name of research. scientists say a do—it—yourself test could revolutionise screening for cervical cancer, which is at a 21 year low. 0ur health reporter michelle roberts has the details. smear tests can be life—saving, but millions of women are not going for them. women aged 25 to 64 in the uk are invited for checks, but the number taking up the offer has been falling. figures suggest one in four women do not attend a smear test when invited. experts say low uptake rates could be down to embarrassment, a lack of awareness or people just putting it off.
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now researchers say a new form of test carried out by women themselves at home could get more people screened. the test measures chemical changes detectable in urine or vaginal swabs to assess a woman‘s cancer risk. a high score suggests a higher risk and the woman should have further checks. lead researcher dr belinda nedjai from queen mary university of london says diy checks could be a game changer. it is detecting 96% of women who have a high grade lesion, or a precancer lesion, so it is very efficient, but because it is to replace another test, we need to do this in 10,000 women. campaigners say home testing is something that would be popular, but larger trials are needed before the nhs can decide whether to offer it. the nhs is currently moving to testing smears for the presence of a virus called human papilloma virus, or hpv.
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almost all cases of cervical cancer are linked to the virus. it can also cause other cancers in both men and women. from this september in england, all boys aged 12 to 13 will be routinely offered a vaccine, along with girls, to help protect against cancers caused by hpv. michelle roberts, bbc news. nasa has sent 12 bottles of fine wine and an oven to bake cookies to the international space station — but not so the astronauts can throw the all time party. no, it‘s all being done in the name of research. the bottles of wine are all french reds. not californian, i note. and they have been sent up there so the scientists can study how weightlessness and space radiation affect the ageing process. after spending a year in space,
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the bottles of bordeaux will be taken back to earth. here to tell us more is the former nasa astronaut and iss commander, leroy chiao. so why would you send 12 bottles of wine into space? it is one of those things i guess only the commercial provider can answer so i assume this is from a company is sending this up here and they will get some publicity out of it and could see some changes, you never know. i expect they would not be much difference as long as the bottles on the ground and up in space are kept at the same temperature. there could be some changes in chemical reaction rates, due to the absence of gravity and the absence of natural convection although i would not expect much about anywhere on the ground because the temperature is presumably pretty uniform. perhaps the radiation up there might cause
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some changes but i suspect it will ta ke some changes but i suspect it will take a very discerning palate indeed to detect any difference. how on earth to have a case of bordeaux wine and not be able to open it! what is it like in space about four months on end and you cannot drink any of it! that would be the biggest torture, knowing there will be 12 bottles of fine french wine that you can‘t touch and maybe that is why they also sent up on the same resupply ship i understand a cookie baking machine with some cookie dough perhaps to help take their minds off it! if you cannot have the wine then maybe the cookies. what about the corks because if you talk to wine lovers it is also an issue, but that would deteriorate. would it be the same in space?” but that would deteriorate. would it be the same in space? i guess if you‘re using natural cork and want
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to store the bottle on its side so that the cork would state right inside the bottle of course in space there is no gravity so you cannot orient the bottle to guarantee you‘ll always have some liquid against the corks of that could be a concern because you will not be able to make sure that it is wet all the time inside. a few days ago i tweeted this picture of them sleeping and not a lot of lot of people see that, all sleepy and some of them horizontal but some sleeping standing up. when you‘re up there how did you sleep? sleeping is something that you have to take some time to get used to but after you used to it it is comfortable because of course you not lying on your arm and causing it to fall asleep or anything like that. your body assumes an actual position and it is co mforta ble. assumes an actual position and it is comfortable. but my very first mission we launched into space and four hours after being in space for
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my first time it was time for me to go to sleep so we got into a sleep station aboard the shuttle, basically besides of a small phone booth and i know the orientation where i was lying on my back so my back would have been towards the earth and i wanted to lie on my side. it made no sense because of course there is no gravity but i rotated 90 degrees and had the impression in my mind that i was lying on my side and i was able to fall asleep. and can you put your arm in the air, could you literally sleep like that because there is no gravitational pull on it? absolutely. your body kind of assumes an actual position and almost a sitting position and your arms come up. if you get into a swimming pool and totally relax that is the approximate position your body will seem in microgravity as well. i love talking to you! we
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should take the whole programme! last month was the hottest october on record — more evidence of the long—term trend in global warming. yet the us has just officially begun the process of withdrawing from the paris agreement, notifying the un of its intention to leave. the arguments over climate change will loom large over 2020. no doubt it will be one of the major themes in the upcoming uk election. but how important is the environment to voters and want do they want to hear from the party leaders on this issue? 0ur science editor david shukman — has been finding out. with a new series, david attenborough is, once again, attracting huge audiences with revelations about the natural world. climate change now has a profile like never before. so, do people care about it? protests by extinction rebellion were annoying for some, but inspiring for many others. we love you! and the school strikes showed a growing concern that‘s reflected
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in some opinion polls. the environment is of particular concern to younger voters. in fact, in our most recent poll, it was seen as being the second most important issue to these voters, second only to the issue of brexit. and i think over this election campaign, politicians are going to have to start discussing the issue of the environment, if they want to win over the support of those youngest voters. so, what needs to be done? this solar farm in sussex is one relatively small part of the answer as the uk tries to go low carbon, and no longer add to the rise in temperatures. all the main parties have committed to tackling climate change, more or less rapidly, so whoever ends up in charge faces a monumental challenge. and notjust overseeing many more of these, but also wind energy. thousands more turbines out at sea and maybe on the land as well. greening our homes, moving away from gas as the main source of heat,
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and cleaning up how we get around, ditching diesel and petrol. it‘s a huge task. but is this transformation possible? the modern british economy was founded on carbon — burning fossilfuels. changing that will touch every aspect of our lives. the government‘s climate advisers say that must be attempted. when we think about the things that need to be done to get to that goal of net zero emissions, it is absolutely enormous. it involves things in every sector of the economy and, of course, we need government policies in every sector of the economy to deliver that. and we will need to see in the manifestos that come forth in the next election whether those policy commitments are there. it's essential that they are. this comes as we hear that the past month was the hottest 0ctober ever recorded. and as 11,000 scientists have banded together to warn that we are facing a climate emergency and that the world has so far failed to respond. david shukman, bbc news.
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al gore the former presidential candidate and now green campaigner has been tweeting about the us decision to pull out of the paris agreement. no one person or party can stop the momentum but those who try will be remembered for their attempts. he goes on to say that if attempts. he goes on to say that if a democrat was to win the election than the us could be taken back in within three months. when president trump first announced his intention to pull out of the accord that galvanised many people so you have i think 17 governors are signing up to something like the us climate alliance, and over 2000 businesses, investors and universities have all reiterated their support for climate change. they can do something but of course it does not make up for the loss of leadership. will china and
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india pick up the lead? that is all from us. goodbye for now. good evening, a day of mixed fortunes. for others, turning brighter. those brighter conditions have been spreading from the north. also some colder conditions spreading from the north. as that cold air continues to move south, things continue to turn chilly during tonight. we will see increasingly clear skies overhead, many showers fade away. we will keep some for coastal fringes. some mist patches around as well. temperatures widely close to freezing. quite a widespread ground frost for tomorrow morning. it should be a fairly bright start
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with one or two showers for northern and eastern areas. not a bad start the day. as we get through the day, first of all this band of showers drifting in from the west and then more persistent rain starting to move into northern ireland, western wales and south—west of england. temperatures between 6—11. as we go through wednesday night, this band of rain moves further north—east and then becomes slow—moving as we get into thursday. this area of low pressure winding itself up on this front hangs across parts of england and wales. persistent rain, particularly for north wales, the midlands, east anglia. that rain likely to get into northern england at times. causing localised flooding and travel problems. to the south, a mixture of sunny spells and hefty showers. to the north, sunshine and showers.
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some over high ground in scotland are likely to be wintry. on friday, the area of low pressure and the frontal system should move south—east. we will see a return to sunny skies but the winds will be coming in from the north or the north—east. it is going to be another chilly day. quite a widespread frost during friday night and then for the weekend, the return of some rain during saturday, some of that heavy and there could be something wintry mixed in over higher ground in the north.
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this is bbc news. i‘m shaun ley. the headlines at 8pm: the conservative cabinet minister alun cairns is accused of a cover up after denying that he knew about the role of one of his staff in the collapse of a rape trial. the liberal democrats have launched their election campaign, withjo swinson saying the party‘s message is clear — stop brexit and offer the country fresh leadership. when i look at borisjohnson and jeremy corbyn, i am absolutely certain i could do a betterjob than either of them. jeremy corbyn says labour would get brexit sorted next year and then put a new deal to a referendum. cabinet ministerjacob rees—mogg apologises after he‘s accused of insulting the grenfell tower victims. he‘d said that families should have ignored the fire brigade

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