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badly affected by the flooding. you are at least three people are dead and thousands have been displaced by a weekend of bushfires in australia. (tx the prime minister scott morrison said the military could be called upon to support firefighters who are currently tackling more than 100 fires in queensland and new south wales. prime minister scott morrison said the military could be called upon to support firefighters who are currently tackling more than 100 fires in queensland and new south wales. now, it's time for a look at the weather with ben rich. hello. after all the rain we've had to contend to with this week, today is our chance to draw breath. through this afternoon, it stays predominantly dry with some spells of sunshine. still one or two showers peppering northern scotland and eastern coastal counties of england, some patches of cloud elsewhere, but for most, it will be blue skies overhead. the winds relatively light, so even with temperatures ofjust six to 11 celsius, it won't feel too bad out there. however, cloud will take on a northern ireland later, we'll see outbreaks of rain here this evening. as that rain gets into scotland, we'll see snow developing over high ground, could well see a covering of snow, say, above 250 metres. some wintriness over the hills of the pennines, rain further south, an increasingly blustery night and not such a cold one as we've had over the last couple of nights.
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tomorrow, then, outbreaks of rain to clear from eastern england. the rain lingers across the northern isles for a time. then it's a day of sunny spells and showers, some of the showers heavy and thundery, winter over high ground in the north. a wintry day and a rather chilly one as well. the royal family and senior politicians join military veterans and religious leaders at the cenotaph to remember those who lost their lives in conflict. now 10,000 veterans are marching past the cenotaph to mark remembrance sunday. the chancellor defends a conservative party analysis of labour's spending plans, as labour says they are a complete work of fiction. the environment agency continues
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to warn there's a danger to life from high river levels in south yorkshire, with seven severe warnings still in place. a warning that extreme weather conditions in australia could fuel more bushfires. three people have already lost their lives. now on bbc news, click investigates whether sg networks could damage our health. this week, is 56 really a health hazard 7 weather forecasting in danger. and back in time, to the berlin wall.
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in towns and cities across the uk, a tech revolution in towns and cities across the uk, a tech revolution is slowly being born... ..one antenna at a time. bit by bit, 56 is becoming a thing, and while all the infrastructure might look a bit dull, take a look at this. this is a speed test to this phone, which right now, is getting data speeds of 390mbps. not bad. yeah, this new network is going to be so fast that we'll be able to download in a heartbeat and stream video to multiple devices at once. in order to allow this to properly take off, with high speed and minimal delay, we're going to see lots of new antennas, each serving small areas. and some of them may use much higher frequency radio waves
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than previous mobile networks. but having these antennas everywhere has given some people pause for thought. they believe that 56 radio waves could cause health problems, and they're campaigning for the roll—out to be halted. now, this protest group is small but vocal, and it does seem to be growing. so, paul carter went to brighton to meet some of the anti—sg movement. chanting: prove that it's safe! hove, near brighton. chanting: say no to 56, say no to 5g! it may not be the first place that comes to mind when thinking of the front line of protest. chanting: prove that it's safe! but campaigners here are making theirfeelings known about plans to introduce sg masts in the area. chanting: what do we want? a ban! when do we want it? now! the world health organization, public health england and the nhs all say there's no sufficient
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evidence to say 56 poses a risk to health. however, that has done little to placate campaigners. earlier this year, one parliamentary petition calling for more research into 56 attracted more than 29,000 signatures. so, what are their concerns? public health england and the government say that 56 and electromagnetic frequencies are safe because they all fall underneath the level of the international safety guidelines. however, there are huge issues with the safety guidelines. there is a great big gaping black hole. what the safety guidelines will tell you is whether your mast will burn or heat you, but what it won't tell you is all of these health effects that are known by science to be linked to electromagnetic frequency radiation.
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who decides who is guinea pigs? who is deciding to roll this out, and on who? who are going to be the lab rats, the lab mice, whatever you want to call us, because it's not safety tested? if someone said to me, fact, 5g is safe, if our government came to me and said, fact, 56 is safe, fact, it has been tested by the telecoms industry, i probably wouldn't have the concerns that i have. but to me, there is no fact there from them. the industry, however, have a very different view. campaigners will say 56 hasn't been tested and if it's not been tested, it shouldn't be rolled out. what do you say to that? i hear that line a lot and it fundamentally misunderstands what 56 is. 56 uses technologies that have been in use in all countries for decades now. the type of frequencies that are used, the radio waves they are using, they are the same ballpark of radio waves that have
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been used and tested, tested and tested, for decades. the technology that goes into the antennas doesn't fundamentally change the way those radio waves behave. so while it looks and feels like a brand—new technology from a marketing perspective, it's roots are actually inherent mobile radio technology that has been tested and used for decades now. what is happening here is very similar to the smoking. the actual health effects, the actual science, was hidden. and this is exactly what is happening here. 5g is highly, highly unlikely to cause more cancers than 2—46, and there isn't much evidence of an increased risk in 2—46, if any. it's not the new tobacco. it's not the new asbestos. that just simply isn't true. but despite the weight of scientific evidence, the anti—sg movement is growing.
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similar groups have been popping up in other areas around the world, fuelled by social media and the internet. back in hove, the campaigners had the opportunity to present their concerns to counsellors. exposure to sg radiation will be 21w, 365 days a year, without our informed consent. nationally, public health england provide expert advice on public health matters associated with radio frequency electromagnetic fields or radio waves used in telecommunications. the implementation and regulation of 56 technology is a national responsibility. chanting: save our children! is there anything from this point that they can say that will convince you this is safe? yeah, they can put their case, but the independent scientists and the actual science needs to be properly heard as well. ultimately, is this a battle you can actually win? there will always be a small number
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of individuals who do not want to hearfrom large corporations like us. and there will always be a huge group of people who don't have any concerns about this technology. there might be a group in the middle who could be swayed, and i think that is the group that, yeah, there is a battle to be won, if you like. we do need to make sure people have access to the right information, that they can make an informed decision and not be misled by what is some pretty aggressive scaremongering. that was howard jones talking to paul carter. and to try and address the concerns of those who may still be undecided, we have come to this rooftop in london to take some measurements from a 56 transmitter. and we have drafted in some independent experts to help. dr richard findlay is an electromagnetic field safety specialist, and he's going to be measuring the strength and frequency of the radio waves at different distances from the mast.
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so, first we're going to put the probe right up on the middle of the transmitter. yes. 0k. the middle, coming down... the maximum reading was...? 550. 551.6%. so basically, if you were to strap yourself to that transmitter, three metres up there, you would be getting five times the guidelines. yes, you would be overexposed. ok, but nobody‘s going to do that. no. so should we go over there? what would you say that is, two or three metres in that direction and see how the signal drops off? yep. there we go. wow. 14.5. so even over that distance, we have gone down by a factor of, what is that?
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that's more than 50 times? 550 down to 14.5, so... down to less than a fifth of the government safety guidelines. yes. right. time to try and make sense of those readings with physicist and cancer researcher david grimes. so, we have seen there that the power drops off really, really quickly, as you move away from the transmitter. absolutely and that is what you would expect. as you get further and further away from a source of light, which of course radio frequency really is, even if we can't see it, the drop—off is really, really rapid. and by the time you are even at an appreciable distance away from any kind of transmitter, it is way more likely that your phone itself is going to be emitting a lot more than any of these transmitters are. do you think one of the worries about 56 is that there is talk of using higher frequency radio waves?
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absolutely. i think people have an acute understanding that higher frequency is higher energy. but i think what people need to be aware of is that this kind of radiation is still very, very non—ionising. what that means is, it doesn't have the fundamental energy to liberate an electron and cause damage. if you want to cause cancers in things like that, you typically need to cause that kind of dna damage. up and the new 56 spectrum is very low energy. it is much lower energy than visible light. more than that, the biophysics itself, the mechanics of how you might develop a cancer or something, we know that this kind of radiation is not ionising. it cannot cause the level of dna damage that you typically expect 01’ need to cause cancer. and so for that reason, the combination of epidemiological evidence and biophysical evidence, we don't have any current cause for concern. that being said, it is always good to observe and keep an eye on trends to see what might emerge. but we don't expect anything will. so there you go, some real science which i hope has helped you to understand how safe
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sg signals are. and just for extra information, we are now taking a reading at head level here on the roof, right next to the sg transmitter. and the number is kind of bouncing around the 2% mark. so even if you were walking on a rooftop next to a 56 transmitter as we are, you are still 50 times below the recommended safety level. hello, and welcome to the week in tech. it was the week that the us national transportation safety board flagged software flaws in the self—driving uber that killed a woman in arizona last year. it said the car failed to properly identify her as a pedestrian while she had been walking with a bicycle across a poorly lit road. american and japanese researchers have used beams of light to hack google home, amazon echo, and apple home product
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devices in a bid to expose security and privacy risks. a laser managed to take control of one of the devices from over 30 metres away. and uk drone pilots have until the end of november to register their details with the civil aviation authority orface penalty fines. us researchers say they've printed skin that is alive and even has working blood vessels. scientists combined cells that kick—start blood vessel development with animal collagen. all of this is happening inside 3d—printed tissue. this could potentially deliver better skin grafts to burns patients. and finally, harvard researchers have revealed their urchinbot, complete with wiggling tentacles. the amphibious robot uses pumps, valves and magnets to move, and could be useful in ocean clean—ups. it is a touch sluggish, though,
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with a top speed of six millimetres per second. a pilgrimage for creativity. each year in los angeles, 15,000 artists, designers and storytellers flock to adobe max to discover the latest tools they'll have to mix in their creative pallets. while we humans still fire the imaginative sparks, increasingly it is the guiding hand of machines doing the heavy lifting, and intuitively understanding the parts of an image we want to manipulate, to repainting a single frame of video and letting adobe's ai platform handle the entire scene. unlike the somewhat dystopian future depicted in the movies, adobe isn't too worried about a landscape dominated by ai. in fact, they're betting the farm on it, alongside another emerging technology, augmented reality. the potential for digital overlays
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to truly enhance our real world, and yes, even cardboard movie sets, is creating feverish buzz. after all, ar does not invoke the same fears as ai and its terminator—esque machines. but while futuristic ar demos are seductive, actually creating these enhanced environments has been beyond the wit of most of us neophytes. enter adobe aero, a free ipad app making content creation relatively straightforward. just using normal everyday gestures... but there is still the challenge of finding some decent glasses to eye up our new world, and notjust peer at it through our phones or tablets. but adobe's confidence is unwavering. ar bridges the physical and digital worlds and truly has the potential to be bigger than the web. scott, you made a very bold claim in the keynote. back it up. well, if you think about it, the web is something we have to go to, and we only go to it when we feel like we need something. ar is always going to be there,
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permeating everyday life when we don't know we need it. so for example, in your bathroom, every pill bottle has information on top of it and every food has calorie counts and whatever else. there is going to be layers of augmented reality and they are going to be everywhere, all the time. a peek into adobe's r&d also reveals its firm belief in al. here it's being used to blend a bird sketch with a real bird's texture to create something entirely new. and this research prototype shows how you can easily animate the mouth of a flat image to the words in an audio file. our technology works with any image, photo, or sketch. but it's clear that such bleeding edge creative products can potentially be more sinister. in this post—truth era deepfake photos and videos are becoming a serious challenge online, where politicians, celebrities, or even ex—girlfriends can be made to say or do things that they never actually said or did. to combat this adobe has launched a system that records exactly
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which changes were made to images, when, and by whom, so that a viewer can see an authenticated breadcrumb trail of edits. technology alone cannot solve this. you actually really need a multitude of pieces to come together. we have a role to play as a technology player, these distribution platforms and media platforms have a role to play, but frankly creators have a role to play. i think content authentication is definitely important and it's definitely in its very first stages. the very fact they've got the new york times and twitter involved is a very good start, but it's got a long way to go and nobody really knows how it will take shape. one thing we do know is that al is here to stay, whether we like it or not. so, we've been talking about the problems that 56 radio signals may or may not cause and while we've established that they don't damage our health,
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they may actually cause other problems in very surprising areas. some scientists are concerned that 56 could affect our ability to predict the weather. specifically hurricanes and other extreme events. they say it could set forecasting back to the 1980s. peter gibbs, a professional meteorologist for nearly a0 years, has been finding out why. in 2018, the federal communications commission, or fcc, in the us, auctioned off part of their radio spectrum or a bunch of frequencies to telecommunications companies for use on the 56 network. what's that got to do with weather? andrew freedman at the washington post has been following this story from the start. the background really is that scientists have figured out that 56 equipment,
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that telecommunications companies want to deploy, particularly in cities, may actually interfere with signals that are bouncing out of satellites in space into the earth's atmosphere and back to sense a very important component for making weather forecasts. so let's try to explain the problem and bear in mind i am a scientist, not an artist. so bear with me, 0k. so what weather satellites are looking for when they monitor the atmosphere is microwave transmissions and they are coming from things like clouds, from snow, from rain, from water vapour as well. very faint microwave signals at very precise frequencies. so, for example, here's a little water vapour molecule, it's vibrating away at 23.8 gigahertz. right next to that frequency is 2a gigahertz, which is one of the ones that's been auctioned off for use in 56.
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now, you can'tjust ask that little molecule to tune out of the way. and that's the fundamental problem. that's why weather scientists are really worried. it looks like they're about to get some rather noisy neighbours. if they're broadcasting loudly in the house next door, or in our case in frequency band next door, even if the leaking is quite a small amount of their power, it can still be much larger than what we're trying to measure. we're going to be in very difficult world where, you know, we're not necessarily sure what we're measuring any more. are we measuring interference? are we measuring the signal? that's the worst fear. the complex weather models used in today's forecasts need satellite data on a global scale. a storm now hitting europe might have started life days earlier in north america. the world meteorological 0rganisation in geneva, switzerland, organises that exchange of data and they're worried a reduction in quality could have real—life consequences —
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consequences that could have been avoided. if we don't have the specific measurement, in fact we will lose 3—6 hours to inform populations of the risk of special events, meteorological special events, like flash floods, storms, things like that. so the scientists are really worried. the us regulators don't seem to think there's that much of an issue. while one representative of the telecoms companies has actually called the scientists' fears absurd. the telecom companies have aggressively pushed back at the scientific agencies and said, we don't think that your analyses are correct. we actually think that this is something that isn't such a big deal and that even if it's a big deal we can solve this some other way. although the science community has said they're not against 56, because the benefits are clear, they've tried to engage
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with the telecom companies about potential interference. so far without much response. i know that there is one company that really could benefit a great deal from 5g because they promote weather apps. of course weather companies want 5g, but the thing is is that they are opposed to this issue because they're like, "well, what's the use of having a new, faster app if we have inaccurate information?" 56 is coming and it will no doubt bring lots of benefits, but we're living in a time of rapidly changing climate, where severe weather is becoming more frequent and more dangerous. we need to be able to predict and warn of these events. it's never been more important. that was peter gibbs. and just to add that meteorologists from around the world are meeting right now at the world radiocommunication conference to discuss this very issue.
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so we'll keep you posted. 0n the 9th of november it'll be 30 years since the fall of the berlin wall. it acted as a physical barrier throughout berlin, but it was also a symbol of the divide between communism and capitalism. now virtual reality is being used to bring the past to life. youtube 0riginals and remarkable tv have worked with descendants of those who experienced the rise and fall of the wall, allowing them to step inside photographs and be transported back to virtual recreations of their families' stories. well, there's a famous photograph of my grandma, where she was just able to escape from the wall being
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built last minute. i don't think people really realise that the wall was something that evolved over time. so in 1961 it started outjust as barbed wire that was laid out across the street. fast forward 20 years into the future and it's a completely militarised border. so to be able to use vr to chart that evolution and plant yourself in front of the wall and be there through that iteration felt like quite a powerful thing to do. there's a huge potential in factual storytelling and it feels like we are on the sort of cusp, if you like, of a new way of engaging people in history, of engaging people in documentary. well, my grandfather is one of the builders of the tunnel 57. seeing my grandfather digging the tunnel was really weird. back when he was doing that, he was probably around my age. he was so close to me in that moment that i was actually like, i would have loved to have talked
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to him about, you want to go get a beer later or anything like that. that is just a taster. if you want to watch our full report on how virtual reality has brought these remarkable stories to life, follow the link below to the bbc news website. and that's it for us for this week. don't forget you can find us all across social media throughout the week on facebook, instagram, youtube, and twitter on @bbcclick. thanks for watching. and we'll see you soon. hello there. after all the rain we've had this week, today is giving us a chance to draw breath.
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it is mainly fine out there. dry for the most part this afternoon. and with that dry weather we get to see some spells of sunshine. so this is how it looks on the map for the rest of the day. some patches of cloud around, yes. some areas of cloud perhaps drifting into north sea coastal counties at times, also the north of scotland. these areas could see one 01’ two showers. more cloud generally arriving in northern ireland through the afternoon. the winds picking up here a little bit. for most of us, light winds mean it won't feel too bad out there. top temperatures of seven to 11 celsius with some blue skies overhead. fine for this evening for most places as well. but we will see rain splashing in across northern ireland. as that rain continues its journey eastwards, it will turn to snow, we suspect, over high ground in scotland. if you are above 250 metres elevation, you could get a covering of snow through the night. some snow mixing in over high ground on the pennines. further south it will mostly be rain. it's going to be turning increasingly windy through the night. these are the sorts of wind gusts you can expect quite widely.
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but some exposed places seeing gusts of a0 to 50 mph. with the cloud, with the rain, with the stronger breeze, it is not going to be quite as cold as it has been on previous nights. tomorrow morning, still this frontal system to clear away from eastern and northern parts. in fact, it will hang back across the northern isles for a good part of the day. expect cloud and outbreaks of rain here at times. elsewhere, it turns into a day of sunny spells and showers. some of those showers will be heavy with some hail and thunder mixed in. the showers are likely to be wintry over high ground in the north. and your top temperatures for monday afternoon between seven and 11 celsius. but factor in the strength of that north—westerly wind, well, it might feel a little colder than those numbers suggest. as we look ahead to tuesday, low pressure still in charge of the scene. we will see outbreaks of rain. and with the winds generally coming down from the north, still being cold air in our direction and still the potential for some sleet and some snow across high ground, especially across the northern half of the country.
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those are your temperatures, again in single figures for most. the temperatures don't climb very much further than that as we head through the middle towards the end of the week. there will be some outbreaks of rain at times but not all the time. some spells of sunshine as well. goodbye for now. trying to help people who have been badly affected by the flooding.
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good afternoon. the conservatives have claimed labour would cause an economic crisis within months of winning the general election. the tories say a jeremy corbyn—led government would spend over a trillion pounds in office. labour has dismissed the figure as an absolute work of fiction. here's our political correspondent helen catt. labour has said it wants to spend big if it wins this election, to bring about what it calls a programme of radical change.

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