hello, it's wednesday, it's 10 o'clock, i'mjoanna gosling. did last night's election debate between boris johnson and jeremy corbyn change your vote? the two leaders clashed over brexit, the nhs and the truth. does the truth matter in this election? i think it does and i think it is very important to hear from... i've been very clear about the deal that i have done. from... i've been very clear about the deal that i have doneli from... i've been very clear about the deal that i have done. i have made their position clear, we will have a referendum, we will have negotiation and we will abide by that result. we've brought together three voters who have never watched an election debate before to get their reaction. i don't feel like there was a clear winner only because i felt like they

didn't use the time effectively enough to answer the questions, so time would be up and we only got like a title and an introduction paragraph to their answer. they're here, along with former advisors tojeremy corbyn and theresa may. we'll talk to jodie lee who posted this picture of her being left to have a fit on a hospitalfloor, she says because staff didn't understand her mental health needs. it is heartbreaking for someone to be left on the floor in a room in a hospital. i felt like a be left on the floor in a room in a hospital. ifelt like a dog just lying on the floor. a new report suggests seven in ten women have been sexually harassed or made to feel uncomfortable in the gym. at first you sort of shrug it off and you like to think that it is not that intention, but as it becomes more regular you start to get angry and you start to feel a lot more self—conscious and you feel quite

paranoid about it. hello, welcome to the programme. we're live until 11 this morning. a new report says more than three quarters of under 5s now have access to a connected tablet or phone — that's up from 23% a decade ago. is that a bad thing orjust progress? if you've got a pre—schooler or toddler who uses a tablet or phone, do get in touch. or maybe you have banned them for your kids? if you're emailing and are happy for us to contact you — and maybe want to take part in the programme — please include your phone number in your message. if you text, you'll be charged at the standard network rate. first, annita mcveigh has the news. good morning. boris johnson good morning. borisjohnson and jeremy corbyn have traded verbal blows in the first tv debate of the general election campaign, but the public response suggests man emerged

as an obvious winner. the prime minister said the labour leader was unclear about whether his party supported living or remaining in the eu, whilejeremy corbyn said the nhs was not safe in conservative hands. meanwhile, the conservative party has been criticised after rebranding one of its twitter accounts to look like an independent fact checking service during the during the debate. the conservative campaign hq account to change its name to fact check the uk with branding. twitter has accused the party of misleading the public. the conservative chairman has said it was clear his party was behind the account. the liberal democrats have promised to recruit 20,000 more teachers in england, increase teachers‘ pay and spend billions more on schools if they win the election. the party says it will reverse cuts in funding for schools with an emergency cash injection of £4.6 billion next year, followed by further cash increases to 2025. the pledge, which will be

announced later today, will be funded by money saved by cancelling brexit. a man who used to work for the uk‘s consulate in hong kong has told the bbc he was tortured in china and accused of inciting political unrest in the city. simon chang says he was detained for 15 days on a trip to mainland china in august and were shackled, blindfolded, beaten and forced to sign confessions. the foreign secretary dominic raab has summoned the chinese ambassador over the allegations, but the chinese foreign ministry says the uk should stop interfering in chinese affairs. more than 2 million adults in england are unable to see an nhs dentist. they include an estimated 1.45 million who have tried and failed to get an nhs appointment in two years, with the rest on waiting lists put off by cost. another 2 million assume they cannot get care where they live, suggesting nearly one in ten miss out overall. dental leaders said the

findings based on official nhs data showed access was a problem in every region. jose mourinho has been appointed the new manager of totte n ha m appointed the new manager of tottenham hotspur football club following the sacking of mauricio pochettino last night. jose mourinho, who won three league titles as the chelsea boss and the champions league while at porto and milan, has been out of work since being dismissed by manchester united last december. he takes over a team lying 40th in the premier league and without a win in the last five games. uk ticket holder has wonderful £105 million euro millions jackpot. it is the sixth time euro millions jackpot one has been won by a uk ticket holder this year and coincides with the 25th anniversary of the first national lottery draw. that is it for the summary, back tojoanna. that is it for the summary, back to joanna. the first leaders‘ debate of the election campaign took place last night, with borisjohnson and jeremy corbyn

clashing over brexit and the nhs. mrjohnson promised to "end this national misery" over brexit and said labour offered "only division and deadlock". mr corbyn said labour would "get brexit sorted by giving you, the people, the final say". and there was a backlash after the conservatives rebranded one of their twitter accounts as "factcheckuk" during the debate. we‘ll talk more about that and what the two leaders actually said in the debate, in a moment. but first, a week ago, we brought together 13 undecided voters for a live focus group. they‘re used to discover what‘s really going on in voters‘ minds. now three of them are back after watching their first ever political tv debate. this is what they made of it last night. i don‘t feel like there was a clear winner only because i felt like they didn‘t use the time effectively enough to answer the questions. time would be up and we only got like a title and an introduction paragraph to their answer. it was interesting

to their answer. it was interesting to watch. i felt like there was a lot of repetition. 0n new topics they would bring up they would use they would bring up they would use the old answer unlike brexit to a nswer the old answer unlike brexit to answer the question. i felt like the old answer unlike brexit to answer the question. ifelt like in some cases there were not that many clear a nswers. some cases there were not that many clear answers. the debate hasjust finished. i think the winner for me tonight was jeremy corbyn because he addressed issues in his beliefs and his stance on austerity, privatising the nhs, climate change will stop borisjohnson skated the nhs, climate change will stop boris johnson skated round the nhs, climate change will stop borisjohnson skated round pretty much all of those subjects and instead just kept slagging off jeremy corbyn and brexit and get brexit done and he seemed pretty wishy—washy about his answers. brexit done and he seemed pretty wishy-washy about his answers. for me jeremy corbyn is the winner. neither party represented anything new in what they brought to the table, but jeremy corbyn new in what they brought to the table, butjeremy corbyn is new in what they brought to the table, but jeremy corbyn is clear new in what they brought to the table, butjeremy corbyn is clear on the nhs, health care and education and doing the best for the people.

boris was all about i have done this, we have done this, but what improvements are you going to make? his focus wasjust improvements are you going to make? his focus was just brexit. well, our three members of our focus group are here now. rhys edwards is an 18—year—old student. this is the first time she will be old enough to vote in a general election. jess young is 30 and voted for the conservative party in 2017. and monique hylam is a 24—year—old nhs supervisor and voted for labour at the last election. also with us is former strategic advisor to jeremy corbyn james mills. and joeyjones, who was an adviser for the former prime minister and conservative leader theresa may. welcome, everyone. did you actually enjoy it? was it an hour of good television? it was interesting. for the first time ever watching a political debate, yes, it was definitely enjoyable, but there was also a lot of frustration around. where are the answers? there was not

enough time to dig deep enough. they scratched the surface, understandably they will not get to the fundamentals, but they did not a lwa ys the fundamentals, but they did not always address the question now is asked and give people the information. was there enough in it to change your mind on anything? to be fair, i have not had my mind made up, buti be fair, i have not had my mind made up, but i didn't feel like there was enough said. it would have been nice for it to go on a bit longer. it was a lot better than i expected, but i did not think i would be able to follow it. i understood what was going on. do you think it added much to the sum of our understanding of where the parties want to take us? if you follow politics on a daily basis and watch this stuff, you would have been entertained and would have been entertained and would not have learnt too much from it. from a labour perspective, it is the biggest platform since the last election in which your candidate

will meet people who for the first time are voting and for the first time are voting and for the first time are voting and for the first time are looking at politics and thatis time are looking at politics and that is important. that covers parts of the north—west where there are key marginals and in scotland. that on its own is good for labour and forjeremy corbyn. i would say it was a score draw. you forjeremy corbyn. i would say it was a score draw. you cannot win an election on this sort of debate, but you can lose one. if i was taking party politics out of it, if i was a tory i would be worried. you go into that and you are on your home turf with a 12 point lead, if the next group pulls see it narrowing, people will be saying, is that a good idea? then it is will he get a majority? that is where it will go. what did you think? as a tv programme and as a formerjournalist we obsess about the format of these things. it was slightly odd at times, it had a disembodied space age sex. whilst

the debate was going on, you did not see the audience, so you heard the laughter like the 19705 sitcom see the audience, so you heard the laughter like the 19705 5itcom with canned laughter in the background. you did not get a real sense of what wa5 you did not get a real sense of what was going on and whether they were engaging with the audience or losing the audience. it felt a bit detached in that way. my sense overall is, jeremy corbyn'5 personal rating5 in that way. my sense overall is, jeremy corbyn'5 personal ratings in the polls are through the floor. 49%, if that was the outcome in term5 49%, if that was the outcome in terms of who people thought one, there is a good outcome for him. for there is a good outcome for him. for the tories the calculation is people are voting ba5ed the tories the calculation is people are voting based on brexit. the undecided voters here are looking at a wider range of issues, but bori5 johnson think5 a wider range of issues, but bori5 johnson thinks he has got brexit in the bag and that is why he wanted to focu5 the bag and that is why he wanted to focus on that. a large chunk of the debate was focused on brexit. there is a sharp distinction between what we are proposing, getting brexit done, unleashing the

potential of this country and next year, deliver and delay with another referendum on the eu whenjeremy corbyn cannot tell us which side he would campaign on. thank you, mr johnson, your time is up for your first response to the question. our priority is to get it sorted. we will within three months to negotiate a credible live option with the european union and within 5ix with the european union and within six months put that to a referendum for the british people to decide. 0n brexit is it the most important thing for you right now?|j 0n brexit is it the most important thing for you right now? i feel like it is not the most important thing but it definitely needs to get sorted. when you say it is not the most important thing for you, will it not shape how you vote at all? most important thing for you, will it not 5hape how you vote at alum will shape howl it not 5hape how you vote at alum will shape how i feel, a second referendum is a good idea, give the people another chance because they are better informed. if the majority do still want to live, then do that

andjeremy do still want to live, then do that and jeremy corbyn will make a decision to get a deal in three months and in six months to a referendum. but i think the nhs, education and the economy are bigger issues for people right now. jess, depending on the outcome of this election it could decide whether we have brexit or not, are you saying it is not a factor for you? it is a factor for me. i like the fact that boris is harping on about the fact he wants to get brexit done and he does not want to dither any more and a lot of people share the sentiment that we do not want to go around in circles. however, i that we do not want to go around in circles. however, lam concerned about his stance on climate change, what he will do the nhs, i do not believe he will not negotiate privatisation. that comes up against what he is going to do with brexit for me. let's talk about the subject thatjeremy corbyn was keen on, which was the nhs.

yesterday a woman, a friend of mine, died at 6:30am yesterday morning from secondary breast cancer. the day before she had gone to hospital at the recommendation of her gp in order to get urgent treatment. she waited eight hours. the nurses who are trying to help her were unable to get anyone to see her because they were under such strain and stress and she recorded a video saying, please, in my memory make sure nobody else goes through this pain. we have got to fund our nhs properly and fill the vacancies and make sure it is therefore all time. it is one of the most civilised things about this country. applause. thank you and i agree passionately with what you have said about the nhs. it is absolutely vital that we support it and it is one of the single most beautiful and brilliant things about britain and our society. we are determined to fund

it not just now society. we are determined to fund it notjust now but for the long term. they are both offering a lot more money for the nhs, labour £6 billion more than the tories in the end. 0ne of the themes that kept coming up thatjeremy corbyn of the themes that kept coming up that jeremy corbyn wanted of the themes that kept coming up thatjeremy corbyn wanted to talk about was what would happen under the nhs under brexit? is that something that will cut through? boris thinks brexit is his trump card, no pun intended, but he kept trying to turn everything back onto brexit and people will say, i heard your answer, stop repeating it. he became a bit robotic like theresa may and that becomes like kryptonite. this is the crux, no deal is still in the system. if they do not get the negotiation next year, there is no deal. 0nce do not get the negotiation next year, there is no deal. once people know what the consequence would be for the nhs and other parts of our economy, labour‘s position is much

safer. the people can decide and it is either a soft brexit or no brexit. that position as a whole is a lot more safer. that is maybe a bit generous to the labour position. jeremy corbyn could not answer which way he would vote in the referendum and most people would view that as a reasonable question, that he should be able to address. having said that, i thought borisjohnson got frustrated around the issue of the nhs. they have tried to scotch the idea that it could be up for privatisation and they spent a lot of money investing in the nhs. but the tories are a bit blindsided by the tories are a bit blindsided by the fact that large swathes of vote rs the fact that large swathes of voters do not seem to feel they get the principles behind the nhs. harold wilson did not step out his position. the albatross around the tories permit next is that people see what is happening in the nhs

with the longer waiting times, the overworked doctors and nurses. labour do not need to say we will spend more money, but if you remember whether your a&e board is still there, that is the big recruiting side when it comes to getting voters. you work in the nhs, what did you think? if we do leave the eu and the deals that will happen with the us, i don't think it is clear what is going to happen and whether the nhs will be privatised. i know boris suggested it was not going to happen, but it was not convincing to me that the nhs is a priority to him. whenjeremy convincing to me that the nhs is a priority to him. when jeremy was speaking you could see it was something he was passionate about and he understands the importance of it, the fact we need more recruitment and the waiting times. it is close to home as well because he lost someone because the nhs was underso he lost someone because the nhs was under so much pressure. he mentioned

the canned laughter at points, it sounded like canned laughter. there was heckling. let‘s listen to the clips when the issue of trust was discussed. personal integrity and individual character, does the truth matter in this election?” individual character, does the truth matter in this election? i think it does... laughter . i have been very clear about the deal i have done. . i have been very clear about the deali have done. i have made . i have been very clear about the deal i have done. i have made the position clear... laughter. we will have a referendum and abide by that result. trust and truth, how important is that for you? it is very important because at the end of the day whoever we vote for, they are our boys to get the things that we need in society. ifeel it are our boys to get the things that we need in society. i feel it is 100% important. when the audience we re 100% important. when the audience were laughing at those points, what we re were laughing at those points, what were you thinking? i share the

humoura were you thinking? i share the humour a little. i feel like it is very ha rd humour a little. i feel like it is very hard to know who is saying what to get the result that they won and who is saying what because they truly stand behind what they say, which is another reason why i am completely undecided. integrity is an important thing and the fact there was no firm answer is a bit disheartening. i think the fact that jeremy started uncovering some of the things boris said and there was 110 the things boris said and there was no weight to what he was saying because it was not true. the parties think they have a monopoly on trust and truth if you like, but my suspicion is actually nobody will win on that terrain at the moment. there is such a sense of distance and the contempt that came through in that laughter is quite generalised. if you look at the laughter, jeremy's issue is one of articulation which he can solve. but with boris it is trust. the second

story in the news bulletin is about the social media platform and the tory party lying. we are going to talk about that now. we are going to talk about that now. let‘s speak to bbc trending reporterjoey d‘urso now. that happened in the course of the debate and it triggered quite a reaction. the conservative party press office rebranding the twitter account. tell us what they did. the conservative party has a twitter account, parties have twitter accou nts account, parties have twitter accounts and they put out their lines and criticise what their opponents are saying. but at the start of the debate the conservative party changed its name on twitter to fa ct party changed its name on twitter to fact check uk, masquerading as an impartialfact fact check uk, masquerading as an impartial fact checker and throughout the debate it was criticising labour policies and at the end of the debate it posted, borisjohnson won the debate, that is an opinion not a fact. how did people react? it provoked immediate outrage on twitter, including from

journalists, including pro—conservative journalists. it was criticised by an independent fact checking organisation, by twitter and by the electoral commission. these stories can seem like a niche twitter bubble thing, but we are looking at a lot of the big facebook groups and a lot of people are talking about it and it is on the bbc website. whoever did it knew it would provoke outrage, but it is unclear how it will affect the conservative party. does it benefit the conservative party? how does it play into these issues of trust?” don't like this sort of thing. as a former journalist don't like this sort of thing. as a formerjournalist i think it is a stupid thing for them to have done. having said that, asjames was saying, if this was a uniquely toxic issue for the conservatives, trust, you would not see borisjohnson riding in the upper 305 or the 40% for the conservatives after he said four months he would die in a ditch

rather than extend beyond the 315t of october and then go back on his word. it does not seem to be affecting him in a way one might expect, or that labour might hope. it is early in the election campaign. it reminded me of theresa may in 2017, strong and stable, nothing has changed. what was kryptonite for her is that they basically did not make her look believable. in last night was my performance he looked disingenuous to most people. the next story in the news today is the tory party is literally a lie and people are attacking them for it. i think it is attacking them for it. i think it is a bad thing. it is the second bulletin. it is hard for labour to make that position stick when jeremy corbyn cannot answer a straight question. if you are interested in brexit... quite a lot of people are.

a5 brexit... quite a lot of people are. as the pollsters say, if that is what you are about, that is what you are about. there is more to this country than one issue, people said la st country than one issue, people said last night. this issue is quite abstract to people. if you are looking at it, that really burns you. in 2017 theresa may was disintegrating because people did not believe her. he is turning around and saying i am going to do brexit, but for me and we will get brexit, but for me and we will get brexit done, but we have up to ten years of negotiations. in the end you three are engaging with politics now, the first political debate that you have watched. do you look at any politicians out there and think, wow, you politicians out there and think, wow, you are politicians out there and think, wow, you are the leader i want to be following? or does this feed into a bit of a plague on all your houses? i think he is the best of a bad bunch if i am honest. some of the

things labour are putting for it is it is admirable, that would be great, but it seems unrealistic. people are getting disheartened and perhaps these things will not come through. but like you said about the trust with the conservatives, it is how do you continue to have someone in power when you don‘t trust what they are going to do. integrity is a big thing. for me it is a difficult time to be coming in to understand and navigate this whole world of politics and brexit. i feel the frustration of my friends and family and those around me and there is a lot of frustration and i am just coming into the field when all of this is at play. it is an interesting time to be immersing myself in these issues.” interesting time to be immersing myself in these issues. i agree. interesting time to be immersing myself in these issues. iagree. i watched the follow—up interviews and i definitely feel like everyone made some valid points. i feel like everyone is kind of honour like an equal scale at the moment. i feel

like when they were asked about responsibility, i felt there was like a bit of finger—pointing on boris' sighed. he did apologise and say, yeah, no, parliament, but there isa say, yeah, no, parliament, but there is a lot of black he said, she said going on at the moment. joey, we all hear watched that debate last night, a lot of people will not have watched it and they will get an edited diet of it through social media, so, joey, what are the party is picking at themselves to push on that front? these debates always have a bit of an afterlife. you have got the news bulletins the next day and the newspapers, but now clips on social media means that somebody who saw nothing on the debate will see something on facebook and the parties were so quick to pump out their clips about what happened in their clips about what happened in the debate. we have got a labour example about the accusation that the tories are selling off the nhs. they put a clipped out on facebook

very quickly. they dropped in a clip from the debate, so it looked like it was ready to go, and then minutes after the debate finished, the clip ofjeremy corbyn was put into it, so they had something they had prepared and wanted to talk about. the conservatives are hitting hard against the accusation that the conservatives are selling off the nhs. boris johnson said conservatives are selling off the nhs. borisjohnson said that was not the case in the debate and they also put out a video very quickly, also using clips from the debate. there are teams of people sitting around waiting to put this out on social media as soon as the debate is finished. how important are these clips? they get shared on facebook, whatsapp and in groups and we have seen whatsapp and in groups and we have seen people debating notjust what happened in the debate, but also what seems like this media bubble issue of the fact checking site, which has cut through with people on facebook on both sides, but particularly with people who do not like the tories. ken says, this was

a masterclass on how to avoid answering the question and diverted the conversation by attacking each other. neither of these leaders inspired me. is this the best the two main uk political parties can offer? not a statesman insight. it only delivered sound bites and nobody had debate. the established media, including the bbc, are in the pockets of the political establishment. thank you for sharing your reviews and thank you for watching that debate. it will not be the last. there is another one coming up. and you can see the reality check on the bbc news website. seven in ten women have been sexually harassed or have experienced uncomfortable incidents at the gym, according to a study in the us. it says women are often subjected to staring, sexually suggestive comments and inappropriate touching. in a moment we‘ll speak to some women and men who say harassment is an unfortunate reality

of their gym experience. but first, here‘s liz clements‘ report. are you sure you are squatting deep enough. nice cars. do you need help with your hip thrust? bend over further, darling. do you need me to pull your leg up for you? your boyfriend doesn't need to know about it. every day, millions of us get our gear on it. every day, millions of us get ourgearon and it. every day, millions of us get our gear on and head to the gym, but why is it that some people are being made to feel uncomfortable when they get there? many will have seen, heard of or experienced harassment at the gym. a quick look on social media shows just how common this type of behaviour is in gyms across the world. a recent survey of women in the us suggests up to seven in

ten women have had an experience at the gym which made them feel uncomfortable. this includes being watched, flirted with, being given unsolicited exercise advice, being followed, sexually harassed, having people criticise or comment on their body, or being touched. statistics show that women in the uk already exercised less than men. so i want to find out whether this harassment is making the situation worse. are women being forced to change their behaviour or even quick exercise altogether? rebecca from cardiff and meghan from newport have both experienced some kind of harassment at the gym. when i started getting more confident in my training i started noticing a lot of people coming up to make making comments and then when i moved gyms i was performing and somebody came up to

me and said, bent over, darling. particular trainer would come and speak to me every single session and ask the same things and he made a lot of inappropriate comments and innuendos and it made me feel very uncomfortable. at the end of the session he asked me for my number andl session he asked me for my number and i said, no, sorry, i have got a boyfriend. he said, he doesn't have to know. at first you shrug it off and you like to think it is not meant with that intention, but as it becomes more regular, you start to get angry becomes more regular, you start to getangry and becomes more regular, you start to get angry and you start to feel a lot more self—conscious and you feel quite paranoid about it.” lot more self—conscious and you feel quite paranoid about it. i have had a few responses in my work where women have noted, you are always on show, know where you can hide. doctor luke turner has spent time looking how men and women behave in the gym. were there instances in the research where women had experienced harassment? —— dr luke turnock.

mostly to do with men staring at them and sometimes that was sexual, sometimes it was, they felt as though the men were questioning what they were doing in their space. a lot of it is young men being insecure and wanting to belong to something, so it is identity formation, initially, and online, on facebook and instagram, they have various lad pages. you wind up with guys who are maybe a bit insecure, and then they are encouraged to behave in that way. can the gymnasium layout affect men‘s and women‘s experiences differently. gymnasium layout affect men‘s and women's experiences differently.” gave an example in presentation of one gymnasium where they had the dumbbell rack right outside the women's changing room, when a group of lads come in, they all wanted to crowd around the dumbbell rack, that made it a bad experience for women who had to navigate between these lads in order tojust get to who had to navigate between these lads in order to just get to the changing room. in terms of making small tweaks to structure, moving some of the equipment around, that is one of the changes that gyms

could easily make to minimise some of these issues. we spoke to two lawyers about the stories we heard from rebecca and meg. they said harassment is a criminal offence if a pattern of behaviour can be proven, if the person being targeted does not make it clear they are unhappy, it could still be difficult to prosecute. one of the uk is largest gym chains, pure gym, has over1 million largest gym chains, pure gym, has over 1 million members, largest gym chains, pure gym, has over1 million members, i am largest gym chains, pure gym, has over1 million members, iam here largest gym chains, pure gym, has over1 million members, i am here to find out what they are doing about the problem. —— pure gym. they have already made changes at some of their gyms, including moving equipment and ensuring easy access to women‘s changing rooms. equipment and ensuring easy access to women's changing rooms. we have a very clear code of conduct, both for members, and a very clear code of conduct for all the people that operate in our gyms. if any member is found to be acting inappropriately, we will investigate. we have very robust procedures, and, if necessary, we

will, and we can, terminate that members membership. while the industry says harassment is a wider social issue, the people i have spoken to have insisted it is a particular problem in gyms. and if gyms want to keep up with the pace of change in other public spaces, many argue more action is needed, and fast. you go in there to feel better about yourself, not feel intimidated and worried. you should feel empowered and confident, you should feel happy and motivated to go should feel happy and motivated to go there. that is how i would want to feel. let‘s talk now to enyonam rockson who trains four times a week, georgia wright who says she‘s been harassed countless times at the gym, and charlie king a personal trainer. charlie has experienced the flip side and has been harassed. enyonam rockson, have you ever been

sexually harassed in the gym? i have experienced harassment from a personal trainer, i said i have experienced harassment from a personal trainer, isaid i i have experienced harassment from a personal trainer, i said i was not interested , personal trainer, i said i was not interested, i said personal trainer, i said i was not interested, isaid i had a boyfriend. approached you in what way? i was doing an exercise, he came over and touched me without warning, i was taken by surprise. i was leaning over, as one woman said in the video, he touched my lower back, almost my behind area, i turned around, obviously surprised and said, i don‘t need any help. the following day... that was his opening gambit, it wasn‘t, "can i help you"? no, he followed my instagram, he messaged me, i had to block him and delete him, that made me leave that gym, i felt uncomfortable. have you had this experience with others?” uncomfortable. have you had this experience with others? i have had it with men in the gym in general, making inappropriate comments, touching me while stretching so i don‘t even know it is about to happen, and points where i have even been to managers and said, i have been to managers and said, i have been harassed countless times by this man, and they have said, "what

do you expect, with a body like that", and i said, if you‘re not going to help me, i will take my business elsewhere. i was made to feel like i don‘t want to make a big thing out of it, like i am being dramatic. i did not even want to ta ke dramatic. i did not even want to take it further because i was embarrassed, wondering if i had brought this on myself, wearing shorts, stretching, made me feel really guilty when in fact i had not done anything wrong. instead of taking it further, i left and joined another gym. what about you? similar to georgia, i have been working out most times on my own, some positions you are in, stretching or exercising, and guys feel the need to comment on you, guys have clapped at me, guys have stared at certain areas of my body where no one should be looking. it makes you feel like you want to recoil into yourself, you want to recoil into yourself, you feel really uncomfortable, and you feel really uncomfortable, and you don't feel comfortable in your surroundings. is it other people working out, is it trainers crossing a line? other members of the gym,

not trainers. some trainers to stare and offer help, in most of my experience, it has been other members. charlie, what do you think about that, what is your experience? seeing the dynamic between trainers and people who are they are working? firstly, obviously, it is horrible to hear, being a fitness professional, and obviously my own ethos and howl professional, and obviously my own ethos and how i go about my work, it is to help any individual that i can. the idea that professionals are inappropriate, that upsets me and i hate that and i don't like the idea of anyone being made to feel uncomfortable, people should no boundaries. they should know as a professional how to treat public when they are in a gym environment or when they are in a gym environment ora when they are in a gym environment or a public space. the boundaries issueis or a public space. the boundaries issue is a really pertinent one, what are trainers told about, because sometimes, i suppose, it is necessary to point out or to help to manipulate a body in a certain

context, but, there is a line... there is a line, of course, it is not acceptable and common sense should tell you, if you are going up to someone, you need to communicate the reason why you might be doing that, first and foremost, never feel you have the right to touch someone or invade their space. i think it is a way of having decorum, and being very aware. so, i think that is one thing, personally, that is what i do, whenl thing, personally, that is what i do, when i go about my work, if i need to talk to somebody, if their form is not correct, i will make sure i introduce myself and make sure i introduce myself and make sure i introduce myself and make sure i don't invade them so they feel uncomfortable. you have experienced the other side. on the other side, this is why i wanted to talk about this, as a trainer, working with an array of different individuals, i have had situations in the past where clients... i have been made to feel that because they are paying for the service, and i give them a very personal

experience, in a sense that is bespoke to them, talking about stretching... i have had an incident, not so long ago when stretching... i have had an incident, not so long ago when i stretched an individual, which was a developmental stretch, i had to apply pressure on to them, my body weight. as i was doing it, they grabbed my behind. it was one of those awkward moments, because it was me applying pressure, so they we re was me applying pressure, so they were reacting but the reaction was to actually touch me and grabbed me ina to actually touch me and grabbed me in a place i felt inappropriate. what did you say? the professional head comes on, i try not to make anyone feel awkward... are you saying you feel it was in voluntary or deliberate? honestly, this is where i try to play devils advocate and just release the tension, if you like, and try to come away from that and do another stretch, but there is that part of me that felt that was not right. first time it has happened where i thought, what was that? it was not necessary. i don't feel comfortable with that. i didn't

feel comfortable with that. i didn't feel comfortable with that. i didn't feel comfortable enough to say, that was not right. you were saying that you were affected, you raised a complaint, but your reaction was to walk away and not to have to keep dealing with that. for you, raising these things, how do you feel?” have only raised a concern once and the response i got, iwould not raise it again simply because, i was told it was passed on to management for the personal trainer, told it was passed on to management forthe personaltrainer, but told it was passed on to management for the personal trainer, but i did not hear anything after that, i was not hear anything after that, i was not told if there was a resolution or if the member acted inappropriately. for me, it had not been dealt with. if guys are going to get away with it, i don't see a point. what about the comments, we heard in the report from megan and rebecca, you said it as well, take it as rebecca, you said it as well, take itasa rebecca, you said it as well, take it as a compliment, people say that, what do you expect when you look like that. it is unwanted attention, it is never like that, the keyword is unwanted: men should think before they put these things out there.

they may say it in a jokey way or they may think they have good intentions behind it but that is not is how it is received and the important part is how it has been received. have you ever felt flattered ? received. have you ever felt flattered? no, usually i feel embarrassed, and i think, has anyone seen this happen, has a man or woman seen this happen, has a man or woman seen this happen, ifeel embarrassed and want to get out. it is not flattering at all. the way i am approached, the way people comment on my body, it is not nice. even if they said it in a complementary way, there is ways to say it. do you play sports? great physique. that is different to... there is a difference between a compliment and crossing the line completely. what would your advice be to someone in a gym, feeling uncomfortable and something is inappropriate, should they call it out, should they draw others attention to it? absolutely, as you said in the vt, you go there to feel good, we are all there for the same reason, for health and well—being, to

the same reason, for health and well— being, to come the same reason, for health and well—being, to come out feeling great about ourselves. no one should haveit great about ourselves. no one should have it as a negative experience, first and foremost. if there is negativity, if you feel uncomfortable, you need to speak up about that. nobody should be made to feel that way. speak out where? what if you go to the office and say something, and the response is, if the response is not understanding. that is a good point, this is where it is down to companies to make sure they have procedures in place, about how they tolerate, not tolerate this kind of behaviour. it is down to companies to have a duty of care, to make sure that when someone complains, when someone flexes something, it is dealt with, because no one should be made to feel this. —— when someone reflects something like this. let us know what you think about that as well.

jodie lee is a 36—year—old mum. her family posted this picture of her being left to have a fit on a hospitalfloor. jodie lee says it was because staff at the royal liverpool hospital didn‘t understand her mental health needs. she‘s told this programme she "felt like a dog". i have a condition called functional neurological disorder, it is like an umbrella of things that can happen to you, and one of them is to retch like symptoms, where i make clicking noises and i twitch. —— tourette's. i punch myself in the face sometimes. people know to ring an ambulance as soon as it happens, i was punching myself in the face and had to be restrained by two people, and then when the ambulance came, they took me to the royal, and then... you ended up fairly quickly after you were taken to hospital lying on the floor in your pyjamas, with just a blanket for a pillow,

you put a photograph out of it and we can see it now, how did you end up we can see it now, how did you end up in that position? i stood up to get something, and i had a drop seizure, which is part of the functional neurological disorder, i have seizures. i fell to the floor, ina seizure, have seizures. i fell to the floor, in a seizure, i banged my head, i suffer from alopecia, and i had no wig on at the time because i had been taken from home. i was taken from home in my pyjamas, i used the blanket from the ambulance as a pillow, on the floor, because i was continuing to seizure. all the nurses have come in and done is observations, and left me on the floor. they checked you when you we re floor. they checked you when you were on the floor, your family said that you wanted, they wanted you to be put in a bed, how did they

respond to that? they said i was not eligible for a bed as i was waiting for crisis team and i was not part of accident and emergency so, in a word, idid of accident and emergency so, in a word, i did not deserve a bed. there we re word, i did not deserve a bed. there were beds available, six beds available at the time, and the royal was, the royal was quite quiet, and so my mum walked down one way, to have a look to see if there was any beds, when i went, there was three beds, when i went, there was three beds there, that i could have been put on, easily. once i was on the floor, suturing, i i should have beena floor, suturing, i i should have been a priority, to get on a bed. the perception of your family was they could see spare beds and felt you should be in one, but the hospital have not confirmed whether there was a free bed that you could be in. what they have said in a statement, is that you were in the

specialist mental health suite, in accident and emergency, a safe place, and you had family members with you who you knew and trusted, they said this was designed to be low stimulus and not a clinical area and as such does not have a bed, chairs were available and it is here that the photograph was taken. despite not requiring a bed in the department for medical needs, staff recognise the discomfort she was experiencing and were in the process of making a bed available, however these beds are prioritised for those with medical physical needs. jodie took her own discharge prior to the bed being made available and prior to receiving this mental health assessment, how do you respond?- the time, i went in with a mental health problem, i was waiting to see a crisis team, but then it also becomes dangerous if i am seizure ring ona becomes dangerous if i am seizure ring on a concrete floor, which it basically is, with a slab of, like,

like a tile. —— seizuring. they was happy to let me continue to seizure on their floor, which obviously, should have been dealt with, with me feeling secure, and me being in hospital, which is meant to be a safe environment for everyone. i was left to seizure on the floor. at that point, i believe i should have been put into a bed, six beds available. there was a lady in a corridor, really drunk, and she had soiled herself, she was allowed to sleep it off for over two hours. and then the nurses, as my mum went out to use the phone, the nurses then said, discharge, nothing wrong with you. so she was allowed a bed just to sleep it off, but i was in need ofa to sleep it off, but i was in need of a bed to put me in to sleep it off, but i was in need ofa bed to put me in a to sleep it off, but i was in need of a bed to put me in a safe place. to stop me banging my head on the floor yet again, because sometimes when i have a seizure, i head—butt backwards and i had but the floor.

there seems to be a distinction being discussed in how you were treated, between physical needs and mental health needs, do you your needs were not properly understood? really, i think the word needs to be put out there. it may be a mental health condition but it also is part of dot the once i started to seizure i needed to be part of the team, i was left in my pyjamas, and the blanket i was using, because it was freezing, i had to use it as a pillow. 0ff freezing, i had to use it as a pillow. off the ambulance crew. because they did nothing for me, nothing at all. the hospital have said they would like to discuss what happened they are encouraging you to contact the patient advance and complaints team, will you make a complaint? —— patient advice and complaints team. i will be making a

complaint, yes, the ambulance crew we re complaint, yes, the ambulance crew were amazing. even though they did not fully understand my needs. but i will be making a complaint about the hospital staff. i would never will be making a complaint about the hospital staff. iwould never go will be making a complaint about the hospital staff. i would never go to the royal again if i am having seizures. ijust felt... i have no life with this disease, with this diagnosis. i cannot leave the house on my own, i cannot be left on my own. it is heartbreaking. it is heartbreaking enough without having to be left on the floor, in the royal hospital. i felt like a dog. laying on the floor. thank you very much forjoining us, thank you. and if you‘ve got mental health issues, there is a range of

organisations and websites that can offer you advice and support. you can find them listed on the bbc‘s actionline website at bbc.co.uk/actionline. news to bring you about the duke of york, and fallout from the bbc interview that he did with emily maitlis, bt have said they will not work with the skills training firm while the duke of york remains the patron of it. it follows him telling newsnight that he did not regret his friendship with jeffrey newsnight that he did not regret his friendship withjeffrey epstein, convicted sex offender, bt has said it has been working with idea, that helps the development of digital business and employment skills since 2017 but our dealings have been with the executive director is not the patron, the duke of york. —— idea. the statement goes on to say, in the light of recent developments, we are reviewing our relationship with the organisation and hope we will be able to work further with them in the event of a change in their patronage. spokeswoman has said. that is more fallout for the duke of york after his interview with emily

maitlis newsnight. the high court has begun hearing a legal challenge to police guidance on logging "hate incidents". the case is being brought by harry miller who‘s been questioned by humberside police after making critical comments, online, about transgender people. let‘s get more from our legal correspondent clive coleman. harry miller is himself a former police officer, he is concerned about a proposed change in the law which could make it easierfor men to self identify as women, now, in january of this year, he tweets on a regular basis sometimes in fairly graphic language on this issue and injanuary graphic language on this issue and in january there was a graphic language on this issue and injanuary there was a complaint about a number of his tweets, humberside police went to his place of work, he was interviewed, and the event, if you like was locked on a crime report as a non—crime hate

incident, i will say that again: non—crime hate incident. it was described by the police as posting trans—phobic comments causing offence and showing hatred for the transgender community. mr miller says he has no hatred for the transgender community, that he was simply debating an issue of public importance, and that these guidelines, and the logging of these hate incidents, in his particular case, reached his right to freedom of expression. he has said that the record of the hate incident could be disclosed on what is known as an enhanced dvs cheque, a cheque for people who want to work with vulnerable groups, children and so forth, have to be subject to. that is the issue at the heart of the case. “— is the issue at the heart of the case. —— dvs check. the stephen lawrence enquiry report said them —— made criticism that police were not

locking hate incidents, the college of policing have responded to this, they say it is absolutely critical that they lock incidents in order to be able to assess the seriousness of them. very interesting and contentious case, i‘m about to go back into court and hear what is said today. now, if you‘re a parent of a child underfive, do they have access to a device connected to the internet? more than three quarters of pre—schoolers do, according to research by the group childwise, up from less than a quarter ten years ago. their report says two in five have their own connected device. these could include tablets, smartphones, pcs, or laptops, as do over half of those aged three to four. let‘s talk to james davis, the chief executive of childwise, and the author of mum—boss, vicki psarius,

and her son oliver who is now 9, and used a tablet before the age of 5. ican i can see that you have your phone with you, i guess it is kids like you that are the focus, you were on a connected device before the age of five. so, before i was five, on a connected device, by then, probably watching youtube, playing games, and... what kind of things? games... but also there is some apps that they can let you learn, for example, doodle maths, doodle english, all the other ones, and exemplar education is really good. doing all this before you were five years old. i wasn‘t doing all this but i definitely did doodle maths. you are

saying you use your device, watching something like peppa pig, kids would have watch that on television but i get the sense that you use your device rather than the television and use it for educational reasons as well. yeah. mum, obviously an exemplary example of how it can be a good thing. why did you decide to give him a device so young? there is a lot of pressure on parents, particularly mothers who do the majority of the childcare and what anipad majority of the childcare and what an ipad gave me was a chance to do lots of things, whether that was working as well when you were little, because i am a blogger and an author, and i was able to... it wasn't about skirting those responsibilities, it was about helping with childcare, there is no guilt or shame in a child watching peppa pig, while mum and that are doing things. and like oliver is testament to, it has really helped

him with his learning. with mine craft, you are building cities, you have learned to animate and it is great that children have the skills. —— minecraft. these are life skills and times are changing, we cannot be luddites that are not embracing tech but we must be mindful, lots of downside, lots of pressures. on that thing of the baby—sitter, 47% of people who are questioned in the survey acknowledge it is a helpful way of keeping the kids occupied. some would say, what about other ways of keeping kids occupied, more old—fashioned ways of keeping kids occupied, more old —fashioned pursuits? ways of keeping kids occupied, more old-fashioned pursuits? we do that, we read and draw. watch videos, draw that, we do tracing. you have learned a lot of drawing, watching youtube tutorials. it is a balance. youtube tutorials. it is a balance. you have to get kids out, running around, we are not saying... moderation. in moderation, yes. model child you have brought in.”

have not told him what to say...! james is the author of the report, obviously, a lot... hello, over here, like a pantomime... so, obviously a lot more kids on connected devices than was the case ten yea rs connected devices than was the case ten years ago. is itjust because thatis ten years ago. is itjust because that is the way things are going or is there an element of lazy parenting, which some might see? is there an element of lazy parenting, which some might see7m is not lazy parenting, particularly the tablet computers, the thing that has really made a big difference, it is something the child can hold, and some even have their own, they prefer to have their own. it is a bit about the technology but also more widely, we are used to using the internet to do all sorts of things. is it a good thing? it can become a 40% of the parents we asked said they used educational apps on their programme, on their tablet,

so, and we know that kids entertainment tends to have an educational element, thinking about children's television programmes, they give the viewer the wider world. broadly, a lot of entertainment can help educate under fives. there is specific education as well, things like we have just mentioned, numbers games, work games, all of these are excellent for getting started. lots of people getting in touch, rebecca: my three—year—old has access to a ta blet three—year—old has access to a tablet but it is a family tablet, small amount of time to use it every day to do puzzles and simple maths and shape sorting. never given a screen to distract him from a tantrum, for example, to many pa rents tantrum, for example, to many parents do that. chris says, "two beautiful nieces and my sister, a psychologist, has banned connected devices until three years old, saying she does not want them to become addicted as their brain is forming". very briefly, do you worry

about that? that element of addiction? as oliver said, it is really about trying to be as moderate as you can, but also not beating yourself up if you want a child to watch something. in a restaurant, perhaps if you have a deadline. we have to be careful about putting pressure on parents. and tonight victoria will be on bbc one and the bbc news channel for the green party ask the leader debate. she‘ll be joined by their co—leaderjonathan bartley and a live studio audience. that‘s tonight, at 10:45 on bbc one and the bbc news channel. quite cloudy out there, still we are seeing things right of breaking through the cloud, sunshine expected this afternoon, and at the moment, you can see, the veil of cloud.

brighter skies developing in london, and across the midlands, up into northern parts of england, brighter skies and further west, cloud and rain on and off in western scotland, eastern northern ireland, west wales, south—west of england. quite easy here, temperatures ten, 11 celsius, chilly a further east you are. tonight, some clear skies, that will allow temperatures to drop close to freezing across north—eastern areas, otherwise, all that cloud around, just like last night, keeping temperatures for most of us above freezing. frost free start into thursday. quite a cloudy day on thursday, still outbreaks of rain, particularly towards the south—west of wales, south—western areas of england, staying dry elsewhere, glimmer of sunshine in the east of scotland. goodbye.

you‘re watching bbc newsroom live — it‘s 11am and these are the main stories this morning: borisjohnson and jeremy corbyn face a sceptical audience in the first election debate — as they‘re pushed on brexit, the nhs, and honesty. does the truth matter in this election? i think it does and i think it is very important. i have been very clear about the deal that i have done. we will have a referendum, we will have negotiation and we will abide by that result. twitter says the conservatives misled the public by rebranding an official account to look like an independent fact—checking service during the debate. jose mourinho is the new spurs manager after the club sacked mouricio pochettino last night.