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moment. also known as a programme moment. also known as a tick—tock filter. programme moment. also known as a tick-tock filter. you can do your own. 0h tick-tock filter. you can do your own. oh no, ithink tick-tock filter. you can do your own. oh no, i think i know what this means. ijust own. oh no, i think i know what this means. i just think, own. oh no, i think i know what this means. ijust think, this is going to be... the best brexitcast... we've ever done. it is adamant with mr. and chris at westminster with the burgeoning binder of manifestos, weber and lib
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dems. didn't ask at the greens for a print out. glad you could keep a burgeoning binder. this is konta adler in brussels. this is laura kuenssberg where i've been at the labour manifesto once. it's been cold but i've got a new paraguay zenda scarf so i am fine. lovely gloves stop it all you like them. you like them? very necessary this time of year. we met lovely lovely! do labour think there manifesto is full of wealth? this manifesto is full of wealth? this manifesto is full of wealth? this manifesto is full of absolutely indoor miss really enjoy enormous expensive promises and big tax increases for the wealthy and business and it is huge. because it is huge there is already a lot of scepticism about
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whether it is realistic. and it is massive and the funny thing is that today, i felt in a wayjeremy corbyn has finally been able to publish the manifesto he's always dreamt of doing. irrespective of what happens in the election, it felt to me as a culmination of a big moment for him because it's a 2019 version of all the principles he has believed in for such a long time. was look at the pages with all the numbers on that which is the bit i always turn to first. it's bits like, the new income tax rates. 45p will be from £80,000 upwards, that will raise ii billion a year by 2023 except people might change their behaviour and might change their behaviour and might be 6 billion less. corporation tax and extra... financial transaction tax, 8 billion, tapping tax avoidance again, 6 billion. those of big numbers and then you look at the spending... and it is things like schools, 5.5 billion.
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tuition fees —— abolishing tuition fees that make free personal care for the over 65, ten .8 billion, and loads of other things they want to buy, isn't there? should be listened tojeremy buy, isn't there? should be listened to jeremy corbyn buy, isn't there? should be listened tojeremy corbyn making his big pitch and the central thrust of his argument? this manifesto is and i am proud of it the most radical and ambitious plan to transform our country for decades. in an election offering a once in a generation chance for real change, we can and privatisation and rescue our national health service. we can get brexitcast sorted and bring our country together. we can tackle the climate emergency that threatens us all the sub —— we can get brexit sorted. and we can rewrite the rules of our economy to work for the money, not the few. ignore the wealthy and the powerful who tell you that is not possible. the future
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is ours to make. together. doesn't basil be translated as taking from the rich to give to those less well off, having excellent public services and if that is the promise, laura you have said there is scepticism as to whether all these witches can come true. would it be enough to bring back those antiestablishment voters who used to to vote for labour who then tripped it over to the brexit party for example? i think there are couple of things in there. first there is scepticism from people like the independent institute for fiscal studies. number crunches have looked at what they say they can raise from higher taxes on business and higher taxes on the wealthy which is extensive and say there is no way they can be sure that they would be able to raise anything like the amount they want to. take it all with a big bucket of salt. it is not all about giving things to people who have the hardest time because throughout this manifesto, chris i
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don't know if you would agree, there isa don't know if you would agree, there is a lot of the concept of universality as we will say. what is that? brexitcast or zenda brexitcast or his one and all, it means everybody gets the frame seat —— same free cell. people who might be labour voters or some labour candidates, former labour mps, business and people at the top are being asked to subsidise everybody. so free tuition freeze for the kids of billionaires. free dental checks for people who've got loads and loads of dosh because jeremy corbyn's labour party believes very strongly in the concept of universality which is as a society you universality which is as a society you pay universality which is as a society you pay wants of higher tax but everybody gets the benefits of it rather than that more new labour style of targeting to the neediest. there is that real desire, that sort of fundamental shift in the role of the state, isn't there, that runs through pretty much every page of
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this document with the plans for nationalizations and transforming the role of the state at the national and local level in terms of its role within the economy and its role within society. one quick question before we go on some more things brexit is page 89 of this ma nifesto things brexit is page 89 of this manifesto before 100 odd pages —— out of 100 odd pages before oppressive features. how different is this from the manifesto from a couple years ago, references to be more radical than last time. but in reference to the electorate, last time it was the most different labour generation —— labour ma nifesto labour generation —— labour manifesto and a generation. for jimmy corbyn it is the most in the last couple of years. on the radical measure, how is it taken in by the electric or electorate? 2017 was an already big departure... norman back underadmiral benderwas already big departure... norman back under admiral bender was a big break of the orthodoxy of new labour. ——
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new labour. from 2015—17 was going from london to bristol. 2017 is going from london to elsewhere... i sense this is a big departure because you have got so many things, huge council house programme. six major nationalisations. it is really, really significant stuff. and their case is that they can't afford not to act. the country has to afford this because we can't afford not to act because they believe the problems of the country so believe the problems of the country so deep. each man's here for doing with the environment and what is being described as the climate emergency. the polls at the moment don't suggest there are enough people out there for an appetite of what is a total reboot of the country, but we will see. then you have to flip to page 89 and you get for pages titled the final say of
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brexit. and here's whatjeremy corbyn had to say about the final say on brexit. we will secure a sensible deal that protects manufacturing and the good friday agreement. and then put into a public vote alongside the option of remaining in the eu. so, if you want to leave without trashing our economy or selling out our nhs, you will be able to vote for it. if you wa nt will be able to vote for it. if you want to remain, you will be able to vote for that. so, want to remain, you will be able to vote forthat. so, let's want to remain, you will be able to vote for that. so, let's take this out of the hands of politicians and gift the british people the final say. caught yet i wonder from your perspective speaking to people in brussels as you guys over there are keeping and i was happening over here, how that picture from jeremy corbyn and what we're hearing from borisjohnson corbyn and what we're hearing from boris johnson and the corbyn and what we're hearing from borisjohnson and the other parties is going down. from the european
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perspective, there is most interested in these four pages and they were looking about freedom of movement in particular. did we have a clear answer today? that is a good question because actually the free movement bit that grazed everyone's eyebrows is in the home affairs and immigration section. they have an interesting phrase about free movement has been liable for socially and economically and we should continue with the benefits no matter what the brexit deal is. is that free movement minus? but i think the briefing from labour is pre—much their new deal they negotiate with the eu in the first three months in office would probably have a big pre—— remove an element. they want to have a really deep association with the single market and as we learn the freedoms go together and one of the freedoms as freedom of movement. in terms of the other bits of the labour brexit bit is the one we have become used to it, the idea of a permanent
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customs union with the uk having a say in what they calljoint uk eu trade deals close alignment with the single alignment and continued participation in eu agencies and the european arrest warrant which i think are easy to say but a bit trickier to do some of those things. isn't it kind of norway plus, norway plus being the customs union on top of norway relationship? and that means let's be clear, being an absolute rule taker for the uk after brexit if that is the case. absolute rule taker for the uk after brexit if that is the caselj absolute rule taker for the uk after brexit if that is the case. i think it is the soft brexit that labour always said they would seek to negotiate. the thing that is in the manifesto that might be how do we say the strategy is to claim which i said again and again is that they could do it in three months and have a referendum in six months' time and as we talked about last week when you talk to jean—claude juncker, the idea that is realistic is... like a lot of things that feature in
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political parties manifestos. they don't wind and up working out like that. but you never know. as we were saying last week, jean—claude juncker's words aside, jean—claude juncker's words aside, jean—claude juncker was also the man that said there would be no further extension for the uk there would be no further extension forthe uk and there would be no further extension for the uk and if course there was one. he would say it is unrealistic to have renegotiations because frankly, he doesn't really want any more and thinks there is another deal on the table and that is the one that should go forward. i think that if there was some kind of labour government minority support from the outside and they wanted to renegotiate a softer brexit at the end of the day, devon motor, grumble, and grown but they would reopen the withdrawal agreement and reopen the withdrawal agreement and reopen negotiations. how long those negotiations would last? i don't know. but what i wonder though also is for those voters who might lean towards remain or what a softer
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brexit, who would anyone be put off by the other pages of the manifesto? find the other pages if you like to radical and therefore not feel they could vote for labour on brexit even though they might be tempted to do so, you know what i mean? chris, adam, we have talked a lot about this on electioncast and this is exactly what the tories are holding onto is that when it comes to people who care about brexit because they ca re who care about brexit because they care about the economy and they don't want economic disruption, they reckoned that actually the real dramatic economic changes and nationalisations and all that that labour are talking about would mean on balance, they would be more likely not to go with labour on brexit and if you want a full bottle domain part —— full throttle remain party, you go with dem although they've been having a hard time this week. last week when they had the broadband policy which someone described as lots of free stuff that
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people will lie, a very senior tory said to me actually they think that would work quite well for them because it sounds a bit kind of far—fetched and a bit scary to some of the small see economic conservatives who have phone out with the tories because of brexit, and you know what i mean? let's talk about the liberal democrats. they watch their manifesto on wednesday ina watch their manifesto on wednesday in a nightclub in north london in the presence of you and laura. you stay for little drink afterwards?” have never been someone so trendy. just report all started, i was live on the bbc news channel and they close the doors to the hall as it was happening and it felt like the weedy is to bouncer you have ever seen. weedy is to bouncer you have ever seen. just talking nonsense into a camera... the big thing for the lib dems as they keep talking about these so—called remain bonus which would be a boost to the economy if the uk refers brexit and stayed in the uk refers brexit and stayed in the eu. relative rates of economic growth... they suggest the account he would grow by a greater
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percentage per year than any of the leave options. should we hear from jo swinson, the lib dem leader?m we leave the european union, we are looking at years and years and years of and was trade negotiations. more time and energy wasted on getting something that will never be as good as what we already have. more time and energy wasted fulfilling the ideological fantasies of nigel farage so that borisjohnson can play at being prime minister. more time and energy wasted that we could spend on improving everyone's wives. the solution is clear. if you want to put an end to this, if you want to put an end to this, if you want to stop borisjohnson to put an end to this, if you want to stop boris johnson and to put an end to this, if you want to stop borisjohnson and his cabal of hard—line brexiteers, then you need to vote for the liberal democrats. we are the only party that can win a significant number of seats from the conservatives and deprive them of a majority. ——
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everyone's live. a couple lines that stand out to make a similar length to the labour manifesto, same size as well. the striking thing though laura, that point thatjo swinson making at the end there so different totally from where she was about a fortnight ago when there was all that stuff even if it was not widely believed that she was a candidate for prime minister and now it is about preventing borisjohnson getting a majority. you ask brexitcast listeners on this week, we haven't seen the first big pivot on the election campaign 2019. things have changed at the polls for the lib dems for various reasons and they are stating what their public ambition is. they are going all out to take seats from the tories in areas where small see conservatives and other lib dems were really cross about brexit. it is clear to me behind the scenes that if there is a
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hung parliament, she would work with either party if they were to offer her that second referendum she so desires. another policy nuggets from the lib dem manifesto. childcare, big expansion of childcare. that is a big nugget! freezing railfares for season—ticket holders, they talk about 80% of electricity being generated by renewable sources by 2030 which chris morris from ready check was on electioncast telling us it was very ambitious... if you get more than two return flights a year, you more than two return flights a year, y°u pay more than two return flights a year, you pay more in taxes... international fires which was an interesting line to draw or at least have had in private apartments. —— international flyers. katya i got a text from summoning the new uk
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brexitcast force, someone noticing they have not talked a lot about the future relationship of eu in the uk in the election campaign. what sort of suffer the talking about over there? i think they have been nodding heads across the eu when we heard jo swinsonjust now nodding heads across the eu when we heard jo swinson just now talking about trade talks going on for years and years and years. nobody here believes borisjohnson and years and years. nobody here believes boris johnson when and years and years. nobody here believes borisjohnson when he says confidently "i can get this trade by december 2020". and yes we have heard michel barnier and the incoming trade commissioner phil hogan say that should be able to be done quickly because the uk is currently a member of the eu done quickly because the uk is currentlya member of the eu so done quickly because the uk is currently a member of the eu so all we need to do is take away some regulations if you want to have an arm length free—trade agreement. but what the eu is going to do is play tough and they will say "look, we will give you a very quick free—trade agreements mr johnson" will give you a very quick free—trade agreements mrjohnson" if he becomes the next prime minister.
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"the clock is ticking,..." once again because borisjohnson they know will be under real political pressure back home. you can have your quick and easy fta but you have to sign up to all of this eu regulation and level playing field regulation and level playing field regulation because the eu wants to reassure other member states that they are not going to have a real advantage competitively in the uk over the rest of the eu advantage competitively in the uk overthe rest of the eu in advantage competitively in the uk over the rest of the eu in the fta. the eu knows full well that this would be toxic publicly for the prime minister to sign away sovereignty like that and that is just one of many many reasons i wrote a twitch or threat of 21 points and i know that goes against twitter wall today as to why that is one of the many reasons... we don't talk on brexitcast this much these days because we all had to get it out on twitter! absolutely, i held myself back as to why these trade
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negotiations are likely to drag on past december 2020. but all the bets here are that unfortunately, the eu things as far as businesses are concerned in the uk and the eu who so concerned in the uk and the eu who so want to see calm and want some certainty after all of the uncertainty of brexit, the eu is convinced this is not going to end after the selection whether labour has some kind of government and works towards renegotiations and thena works towards renegotiations and then a second referendum or if the tories are able to have their own government, you would then have a tussle over negotiations which will probably lead to a cliff edge again leading up to december next year of unknow deal brexit once again or at least no trade deal and of course that would mean more uncertainty will continue. that's the thinking here. one thing to point out rememberafter here. one thing to point out remember after the price of it when the uk imploded as to what kind of brexit it wanted and so on giving the eu lots of time to plot and game
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plan? this is sort of what is going on again now because we are concentrating on our general election and party manifestos, and they are already thing ahead as to what might happen if the tories when, if labour wins and so on and game planning that already. and they will give away the game plan... that sounds a lot less fun, isn't it? quickly on the note that's why for the tories why they're having the selection and why they are trying above all else get a majority because they have a majority, even a half decent one, even a majority of one, than they can do things and thenif one, than they can do things and then if they had to extend, it would bea then if they had to extend, it would be a bit rough—and—tumble and people would be cross but they could extend if they really had to and then we get into a different kind of debate. even though trade negotiations might be brutal, or buddy and there would be brutal, or buddy and there would be vigorous political debate, there will be if we have actually left a different game. the biggest question marks stay or go would have been answered. it is time for the big
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moment of the week which is laura's car park update. where you show us your car park. we should have a jingle for that. or a hawk. hong kong! my lovely colleague superstar producer took some pictures ameliorating the and how cold and lonely it is here. —— honk honk. and i have a picture of you guys... and also some wealthy people and it has been very nice in birmingham city university. everyone has been very friendly and the evening let us use the loop because they are not many lose and car parks... adam has in putting his time to good use this afternoon. we have use and presence actually you too. before christmas! it is already tomorrow if you're listening to us later, six music
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teacher day we have to go to workfa re teacher day we have to go to workfare —— teacher day we have to go to workfa re —— wearing teacher day we have to go to workfare —— wearing your favourite band's teacher for workfare —— wearing your favourite band's teacherfor some workfare —— wearing your favourite band's teacher for some so we got you some, t—shirts. band's teacher for some so we got you some, t-shirts. we were thinking you some, t-shirts. we were thinking you could channel this in the way that occasionally political campaigners to where they will wear their political t—shirt with a portico slogan on it but then wear it over your shirt... chris has got ana it over your shirt... chris has got an a fridge for you, katya. and i have a bond for you. and i we are taking our shirts off. to die! this isa family taking our shirts off. to die! this is a family show. —— this may be better for a podcast then fridge be on tv, no offence... is her producer said, a bit of a dad fit. does that mean louis? not well
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fitted. i have to go to the station. my favourite moment of today on a serious day, politicians are all human beings as well, this is true i promise you. and a lot ofjeremy corbyn's family were here today including his sons and i had a chat with his son ben who is a football coach and he said his dad was like a genuine perimeterand coach and he said his dad was like a genuine perimeter and was very excited but a bit nervous. and i said you think is when to move into numberten and he said you think is when to move into number ten and he said? said you think is when to move into numberten and he said? " i said two macri also because i told my son that we're going to play fifa there. " that that we're going to play fifa there." that is the most human thing i've heard about anyone's beef ambitions at the time. ifjeremy corbyn wins the election, then been corban will have a chance to play fifa on downing street flat. now we to find out all the favourite computer games of all party leaders and maybe we'll find this out on the leaders of special. if he does make
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it to numberten, leaders of special. if he does make it to number ten, then on a human level borderjohnson could finally order his thai curry. that is true. although if there's a place in exeter that could be harder. i digress. should we have a brief look ahead and basically more manifestos. we will have the conservatives coming up in the next few days was at the scottish national party to keep an ion. the bexar party say they will publish a contract with they will publish a contract with the people of britain. keeping an eye out for that. -- depressive party. and on this site on friday we find out what the european commission want to do next about not being givena commission want to do next about not being given a uk commissioner name. and also next week we will find out whether she starts her new commission. and the question time leader specials with fiona bruce in sheffield. nicola sturgeon, jo swinson, jamie corbyn, boris johnson and the public asking the questions
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was a friday night is the place to be for portable debate and we have decided to schedule that against... goodbye you guys, see you soon. by. hello again. our weather is going to stay in a rather unsettled mood over the next few days and that means more rain is on the way i'm afraid. now looking at the satellite picture, we've still got an area of low pressure that's been to the west of the uk now for a number of days. it's still a big area of high pressure in russia stopping the lows from moving anywhere very far very fast. and that means for friday, it's another cloudy day coming up and quite a few of us will see passing showers but it's a on in the day that we will start to see the next weather system bring an area of rain across southern counts of england.
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and into southern wales. now, the heaviest rain will always be here across southwestern england. temperatures 8—10 degrees celsius, the wind is not feeling quite as cold as it did on thursday despite them being a touch stronger in nature. then through friday night, if anything that rain becomes even heavier and a bit more slow—moving, centred on south—west england and particularly cornwall. here we could see a few issues building up with some surface water flooding perhaps on some of the roads. it's another night that's not desperately cold apart from where we see a few cloud breaks for any length of time. we could see temperatures just it dipped down below freezing. on into the weekend weather prospects. well, this low pressure is firmly in charge, and this area of rain is going to become quite extensive. and it will move northwards into northern ireland across england and wales and eventually will reach parts of scotland as we go on through saturday afternoon. that said, the north of scotland should stay dry and bright with spells of sunshine poking through the cloud every now and then, and it will start to turn a bit milder. temperatures reaching a high of ten
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or 11 celsius in a number of places. now, if you joined me this time yesterday, we were looking at the jet stream and how uncertain the forecast was for sunday. now, we've still got this trough disruption going on down towards the mediterranean but it looks increasingly likely that we'll see some kind of ridging moving into the west of the uk at least for a time and that means sunday is looking like a quieter day of weather. that said, there will be some heavy rain working across orkney and shetland for a time. a lot of cloud elsewhere with some passing showers, may be a bit of sunshine for a time across southeast england. but the next weather system moves in during sunday afternoon. that spreads to wales and south—west england. i suppose there could be some timing variations in how quickly that zone of wet weather moves into the south west but of course we don't need any extra rain given that the ground continues to be saturated. from monday, will pressure is still with us so outbreaks of rain will be quite extensive i think across many areas once again. perhaps the north of scotland avoiding the worst of the rain and may well stay dry and bright with some sunshine across the north—west. still mild, getting milder if anything, with temperatures up
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to 13 degrees towards southeast england. tuesday looks like being a quieter weather day. often cloudy, and again there will be a number of showers around as well. we do however stay on the mild side of things with temperatures again around 11 or 12 degrees across southern parts of england and wales. ten there for stornoway and for an borough as well. and for edinburgh as w now, beyond that, we have to take a look at what's going on in the atlantic. the atlantic hurricane season is drawing to a close but here is sebastian and it looks quite likely as we go through the course of friday this is going to become a hurricane. and it's going to be steered in towards the mid—atlantic and it's possible that the remnants of this system could end up quite close toward southern england, perhaps northern france as we head into wednesday. so, that is something we are keeping a close eye on at the moment. for the time being, it looks like next week, there will be further spells of rain at times. could be quite windy as well and although the week starts off on a mild note, there's still signs that later in the week it could turn colder across northern areas.
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that's your weather.
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jeremy corbyn launches labour's general election manifesto and vows to transform britain with huge investment and big spending. he calls it the most radical and ambitious plan for the country in decades — it'll be funded by big borrowing and big taxes on business and the wealthy. vote for this manifesto of hope. it's time for real change. thank you. cheering among the plans — 100,000 council houses a year until 2025, and nationalising railways, mail, water and energy companies. he rejects claims his plans are not credible and says he'll take on "the bankers, billionaires and the establishment" holding people back. also tonight... the former first minister of scotland, alex salmond, appears in court charged with 1a sexual offences against ten women —

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