plans to raise £83 billion in extra taxes is "not credible". the financial times says today's announcement "eclipsed the radical plans from the 2017 election", and is a further shift to the left. tomorrow's daily telegraph leads on the news that a number of orphaned british children caught up in the war in syria are to be brought home to the uk. the paper says the children were found in a camp last month and are due to return to the uk in the coming days. prince andrew is still making some of the front pages. including the metro which has a picture of the duke looking cheerful as he travelled to see the queen today. and the sun leads on the same story — reporting that the prince has been forced to cancel a planned trip to bahrain this week. let's start our chat. it has to be the launch of the manifesto and it is the ft we're going to begin with.

corbyn‘s tax—and—spend manifesto stirs spectra for the 1970s of business. —— for business. we are hearing businesses are unnerved. we all thought that the 2017 manifesto was as radical as you could get. but spending the ft reports goes from tuna 50 billion tomorrow at 400 billion now which is absolutely huge facade —— 250 billion. this question of corbyn trying to hit big business but what are the knock on effects? is it just the but what are the knock on effects? is itjust the sort of big baddies at the top of these businesses were going to be hit or is it that people lower down the chain, the shareholders, stakeholders people working these companies were going to be hit? is it possible to do something this radical without hitting the normal middle—class people? this manifesto has thrown up a hell of a lot more questions than a nswe i’s. a hell of a lot more questions than answers. what did you think? i think it is really interesting because we

didn't think 2017 was radical and a lot of these policies have artie come out and been discussed at the conference. but when you put them together in this 105 page document, it is very radical. and it is a rethink of the way that britain is i’ui'i. rethink of the way that britain is run. it's a fundamental question about the size of the state and the role that people think the state should play in their wives. and it always feels to me a bit if they are going for broke because they feel like... but they have really gone for it. —— in their lives. but they have put down in their wish list a full governmental society and almost feels like the left of labour which is in charge of the party sees this as their chance to put it down. there are some suggestions that if corbyn doesn't win, he will be out and that wing of the party may not be in charge. that may be just a

feeling but it does seem like they have put it all out there. this is what i was picking up on as well feeling as though it is a win at all at this point. in 2017, there was definitely an attempt to appeal to the moderates of the party. even though it was radically left—wing, a lot of pro—corbin supporters were saying he toned it down in 2017 because he wanted to get those voters lost to the lib dems in 2015. but now with his popularity ratings atan but now with his popularity ratings at an all—time low, it feels like "we do this now and we go out there as we can." that was in the ft and an opinion piece written picking up on your point there that the markets have reacted remarkably calmly at... there is a low probability of a corbyn governments from this writer. it's like they're not taking this seriously. and like i fs has said,

it's not credible. let's turn to the front of the daily credit —— daily telegraph which leads with this piece. what you make of the higher tech race and the super rich tax rate brackets? it's interesting because... ever sincejohn rate brackets? it's interesting because... ever since john mcdonald became a shadow chancellor, he has talked a lot about the very richest footing the bill. which is not what weber in government has done before under blairand weber in government has done before under blair and brown. weber in government has done before under blairand brown. it weber in government has done before under blair and brown. it was a more gradual rising tax in the middle classes pay more taxes sub —— not what labour and government. they have not tried to change public opinion. they have not seen the likes of us should pay more tax. they're just hitting those at the top. now, that is the point that the daily tear —— daily telegraph and ft are making that you can'tjust do that. i have found interesting they have not tried to convince everyone that everyone should pay more taxes. they have definitely gone for the

attacking billionaires —— take down doing us. but i think there are stealth taxes hidden in there on the middle classes like scrapping the married persons allowance. massively cracking down on private schools. labour and corbyn talks about private schools how they are just normal private schools in small villages and towns. then you have gotten the question the telegraph throws out about whether the elderly will have to pay for their care and away although labour trashed theresa may's dementia tax. a question of whether the middle—class out we will have to foot the bill... which they are already doing in many cases. they are but labour hasn't got a particular plan to address the social care issue. they are talking a lot about attacking the billionaires and as you say, they are not talking about gradual raises in tax but i think buried in the

ma nifesto in tax but i think buried in the manifesto there are quite a lot of measures which would affect the middle class. the guardian ros paper dealing with this. interesting again that the ifs reaction especially with the capital gains task, it does trigger done everybody so it does not target just the super—rich. trigger done everybody so it does not target just the super-rich. the capital gains tax is a bit more of labour for a while. it's perhaps not surprising a lot of these things that they have gone after. we are talking i think it is fair to say it is radical and lots of ways but actually if you put it into context of lots of other european countries for example and even what the ft is saying back to the 70s as a bad thing, but even some of the elements of the state that people used to expect to have. 0ne of the state that people used to expect to have. one of the other polls that came out was the times had some which basically said that

although people didn't think it was achievable, they didn't like the policies. it's an idea. ithink achievable, they didn't like the policies. it's an idea. i think what we we re policies. it's an idea. i think what we were saying about how much stuff is it, maybe that is actually one of the bigger problems because there's so the bigger problems because there's so much people look at it and think thatis so much people look at it and think that is not going to happen. as 2017 ago to more selectively. it was not like... i suppose whether it is realistic. you were talking by comparison around the world. just going back again to ifs because they are the independent. they described it as just about the most punitive corporate tax or sheep in the world if this happens. —— corporate tax regime. like nothing we've ever seen. germany has so is talked about this big state in europe and it would be so much bigger than germany. literally as you say an entire plan to change the way

britain works and the question is is that what people want? to people really hate the way britain is run that much christmas and the polls have suggested probably not. let's go back to the daily telegraph and the story written today "uk starts bringing back iso children" so call this after we have seen rifts in the cabinet over this from pretty patel and sajid javid that isis... children of isis fighters should not be brought back to the uk because what they could pose security. dominic raab is always been in support of bringing them home and he has seemed to one the day here. the article talks about orphan so that is one set of circumstances. they are british children, they've got no pa rents are british children, they've got no parents and no one looking after the so they can be brought back. but if you're bringing them, what about the children with parents, and it throws

up children with parents, and it throws up the same ethical issues when the other case broke. with traces saving the children out and syria is that there are 60 brimwood —— british children out there. and may be that this is particularly emotive when you're talking about orphans. but there are other children here and there are other children here and the government have tried to shy away from these issues because they are so away from these issues because they are so difficult. that other case should the difficulties with that. they may not want to get into that but they may not want to avoid it because it is going to keep coming up because it is going to keep coming up as because it is going to keep coming upasa because it is going to keep coming up as a question of our responsibilities as a country. up as a question of our responsibilities as a countrylj think responsibilities as a country.” think a case—by—case basis is a good way to go about it. in some cases it is not a good idea but in something like this, it was obvious the humanitarian thing to do. let's go back to a story that has been on the

pages certainly on the metro. water off the duke's back. particularly damning picture of the do. a lot of people's impression was that he did not get the severity of the situation that he was faced with. obviously that amazing newsnight interview. you can't do anything right really. but itjust kinda plays into the impression that we have already got that he seems almost not totally detached from reality —— almost totally detached from reality... they are reminded of the fact that they were victims in this case that he was not thinking about at all. what you make of the fa ct about at all. what you make of the fact that he then has to step away from public duties? i really don't the gi had any sort of choice and that and i don't really think it was his decision. if you're reading between the lines, it seems like the decision came from on high. —— don't think he had the decision. definitely, this is really annoying for him apart from anything else. he

has been in new zealand for a foreign tour, he wants attention for that, his parents are very old now and he will be king soon and annoying younger brother... obviously much worse than annoying but from the royal family point of view this is so embarrassing. not what it has needed. a bad year for them already with harry and megan npr... we will leave it there. we have another addition coming up at 11:30pm and we will see what other stories we can include in our chat then. that's it for the papers this hour. nicola bartlett and olivia utler will be back at 11.30 for another look at the papers, and don't forget you can see the front pages of the papers online on the bbc news website. it's all there for you — seven days a week at bbc.co.uk/papers and if you miss the programme any evening you can watch it later on bbc. via the bbc iplayer. thank you nicola and olivia. goodbye for now. we'll be back again un around 40 minutes.

—— ataround —— at around the top of the hour. it's pretty soggy out there in the south of the country at the moment. heavy rain and places. for some of us heavy rain and places. for some of us it is just bits and spots and we have a lot of cloud forecasts in the next couple days. right now heavy bursts of rain for a time in the south during the course of the night. some of the rain moving northwards but generally speaking overcast a cross northwards but generally speaking overcast across the uk so it is frost free. 5—6 degrees early on friday morning and this is what is happening tomorrow morning. showers continue for a time in the south and later in the day looks as though the rain could turn to white heavy across the west country, western england, and into wales as well. —— could turn quite heavy. elsewhere notice the rain isn't as heavy. it will come and go, temperatures will

be around about 9—10 degrees celsius. beyond that going into the weekend, what can i say, it looks pretty changeable. certainly a lot of cloud and ran across the country on saturday. probably raining anywhere apart from the north of scotland. at sunday again some rain expected but i think out of the two, sunday looks like it is going to be just that little bit drier. and the temperatures for the time of the year, double figures in a think that is how it is going to stay into next week. go tivoli mild without price of rain from time to time. —— so, relatively mild with outbreaks of rain.

this is bbc news. the headlines at 11pm: jeremy corbyn launches labour's general election manifesto, calling it the most radical and ambitious plan for the country in decades. votes for this manifesto of hope. it's time for real change. thank you. among the plans 100,000 council houses a year until 2025 and nationalising railways, mail, water and energy companies. the former first minister of scotland, alex salmond, appears in court charged with 14 sexual offences against 10 women — including one of attempted rape.