this is bbc news. the headlines at 2pm: the prime minister visits the scene of the london bridge attack — and says people convicted of violent offences shouldn't be released early from prison. the attacker‘s been named as usman khan, out on licence after being automatically released from prison, despite a terrorism conviction. the practice of automatic early release, where you cut a sentence in half and let really serious, violent offenders out early simply isn't working and i think you've had some very good evidence of how that is not working, i'm afraid, with this case. the queen hails the bravery of passers—by yesterday, who restrained the attacker before he was shot dead by police. when we are all kicking and holding him to the ground, the guy was just constantly screaming, "get off me, get off me. as if everyone was just

going to let him go and do his thing. but we wanted to make sure that he was never going to do this again, he was never going to harm another single human being. in other news, millions of commuters will have to pay an average of 2.7% more for rail tickets in the new year. and at 2.30pm — as families of the hillsborough victims continue their search for justice, we look back at the disaster and the events that followed. the prime minister says he wants to ‘toughen up sentences‘ for serious and violent offences. speaking after visiting the scene of friday's incident at london bridge, mrjohnson said he wanted longer sentences for violent crime and an end to early release for serious offenders.

the attacker usman khan had been released on licence last december — after serving half of a 16 yearjail sentence for his part in a plot to blow up the london stock exchange. in the past hour, the prime minister has speaking at the scene of the attack. i have just been down again to talk to the emergency services, to thank the police for what they are doing and, you know, i pay tribute to their incredible response. they were on the scene in four minutes, the terrorist, the assailant was tackled within five minutes. quite an incredible response by police, i also want to pay tribute again, as i think the whole country does, to the sheer bravery of those members of the public who went to deal with him spontaneously, putting their own lives at risk. so, i have been talking about about the scene, what happened, trying to understand exactly how this man came to be

in fishmonger‘s hall and, you know, obviously it is early days and there is a lot of investigation that needs be done. but it is clear to me that this guy was out, he had served half of his sentence and was out on automatic early release and i have long said that the system simply is not working. it does not make sense for us, as a society, to be putting terrorists, people convicted of terrorist offences, of serious, violent offences out on early release and we argued that people should serve the tariff, serve the term for which they are sentenced. that is my immediate takeaway from this and that is why i am working to increasing sentences for serious and violent offenders and why i have argued that when people are sentenced to a certain number of years in prison, they should serve every year of that sentence. the other thing, i think, very strongly, looking at what is going on here, i really hope that it can be

business as usual as fast as possible and obviously all the forensics have to be done and i thank the police for what they are doing, they are doing a fantasticjob. but i think people, businesses around here want to get on with their lives. it is the run up to christmas and you can see people are out on the street shopping already, first thing. so, as a government, under your leadership, will you commit to reviewing whether indeterminate sentences should be what they say they are? absolutely. as we say in the manifesto, we want to toughen up sentences for serious and violent offences and i have said for a long time now that i think the practice of automatic early release, when you cut a sentence in half and let really serious, violent offenders out early, simply is not working and i think you have had some very good evidence of how that is not working, i'm afraid, with this case. with other convicted terrorists out on licence at the moment, how can you reassure the public

that they are safe? well, i can tell you that we have had a long conversation, we had a long discussion already today about all those cases and a great deal of work is being done right now to make sure that the public are protected and i want to thank, you know, the security service, as well, for the outstanding job that they do. do not forget, this is a crucial point, for every incident like this, terrible as it is, there are many, many that are thwarted. there are many prospective terrorists who are intercepted, prevented by our fantastic police, fantastic security services. thank you. the head of metropolitan police, cressida dick, has also been addressing reporters. it is a terrible thing to see. where people lost their lives and there was so much devastation and carnage.

rest assured, our teams are incredibly professional, they have all the equipment and skills they need to find out exactly what happened here and indeed, what led up to the events here yesterday. i would like to thank people in the local area and londoners, in general, for, first of all, their perseverance in accepting that we must do ourjob properly at a scene like this and, although we have managed to release a lot of the roads, london bridge station is running, we will of course be here for some time to come, examining the crime scene. i also want to repeat my comments from yesterday, yesterday as well as all that horror, we witnessed the most extraordinary courage by members of the public

and indeed the city of london and other police officers and emergency services. we saw some wonderful examples of professionalism, of quick thinking and, of course, of compassion. it is a terrible thing that people found themselves in that position, but as we saw the worst of humankind, we also saw the very best of human spirit and of london. the investigative teams are working very fast. you will have seen that last night my colleague, assistant commissioner neil basu, put out an update. we do believe that this person, as far as we can tell at the moment, was acting alone and we will continue to investigate the circumstances that led to this moment.

what we're seeing now are some pictures of people what we're seeing now are some pictures of people running what we're seeing now are some pictures of people running from what we're seeing now are some pictures of people running from the scene. these are obviously photographed yesterday afternoon, after the man began his attack. it was about 24—hour is the go, just approaching 24—hour is exactly, that the attack took place. he had been attending a conference at fishmonger‘s hall. he was restrained by members of the public, including some people he had participated at that the amount you see what appears to bea that the amount you see what appears to be a large animal tooth with actually using it in an attempt to restrain usman khan, the attacker and preventing attacking other people but the two nights he was carrying. that was partly taking off the wall at fishmonger‘s hall and used to prevent usman khan attacking anybody else. he was consequently shot dead by counterterrorism officers as it was feared he was readying an explosive belt. it turns

out it was actually fake and there we re out it was actually fake and there were no explosives at the scene. the police are now increasingly confident that usman khan acted alone. he had been convicted of conspiracy of terrorist plot, which was unsuccessful. painfully u nsuccessful was unsuccessful. painfully unsuccessful and he had been released from prison, having served half of his sentence. —— thankfully u nsuccessful. let's get the latest on the investigation —— here's our correspondent sarah corker. there was intense police activity at a property in stafford this morning, thought to be where the attacker had lived. this man, usman khan, 28 years old, a convicted terrorist out on licence. the attack started at fishmonger‘s hall, close to london bridge. khan had been invited to a criminaljustice event, run by cambridge university. mobile phone footage shows what happened next. he is pinned to the ground on the bridge, some of those

intervening where prisoners on day release, who had been at the same event. including 42—year—old james ford, a convicted murderer, who helped to chase the attacker. the knife is then taken off him. police arrived within minutes and shot him dead. a man and woman were killed, three others, a man and two women, were also injured and remain in hospital. this is usman khan speaking to the bbc back in 2008, before his conviction. if you asked them, they will know, that these labels that they put on us, terrorist, they will know, i am no terrorist. he was originally from stoke—on—trent, he was jailed in 2012 for his part in a group plot to bomb the london stock exchange. he was sentenced to an indeterminate detention for public protection, with a minimum term of eight years. but in 2013, that sentence was quashed, replaced with a 16 year

fixed term of which khan should have served half in prison. he was automatically released a year ago on licence, with an electronic tag. today the queen sent her thoughts, prayers and deepest sympathies to all those who have lost loved ones and who have been affected by yesterday's terrible violence. sarah corker, bbc news. let's cross to london bridge now where we can speak to our correspondent katharine da costa. it has certainly been busy there, not just because of it has certainly been busy there, notjust because of the police investigation, but because of a number of high—profile visitors who have had to the scene. can you give us have had to the scene. can you give usa have had to the scene. can you give us a picture or flavour of what is inside the course this morning? yes, 24—hour is on from that attack and the cording remains in place. you might be able to see over my shoulder some flowers have been left at the scene, but they man and woman who sadly lost their lives. now, as

you say, the prime minister was joined by the home secretary, the head of the london, city of london police and the head of the metropolitan police, they all attended, visited the crime scene. they have been speaking to reporters, cressida dick said that the focus is very much in the investigation, but also on reassuring the public she said london is resilient to stop that it is open for business. and the mayor of london echoes that, he praised the bravery and courage of those individuals who intervened. he said it showed the best of british. both he and the prime minister has said that they will not let individuals intimidate or divide us and they have carried on their visit into borough market today to go and talk to terrorists and visitors who are out using the market. it is still very busy year, despite the public being urged to avoid the area. the

public are being asked to remain vigilant and today the met police re—appeals for information and footage, particularly anybody who was at fishmonger‘s hall to get in touch with a investigation. you mentioned the flowers there, laid for the victims of the ashley's attack. yourself presumably waiting for identifications of the two people who have died? do we have any indication about the condition of the people who were injured? we know that a manatee women were taken into hospital. we were told that one is critical, but stable and another is sta ble critical, but stable and another is stable and the other, the third person, suffered less serious injuries. but again, their identities have yet to be released. catherine, thank you very much and we will cross from catherine to hear. the observations today of one of the eyewitnesses who was outside

best mongers hardly time of the attack. well, we saw, just sort of a handful of people running away from a direction to the left of us, on the left—hand side, from south to north, and i don't know why, but i felt compelled to jump out of the car to go and see what the situation was. and we saw a guy being accosted to the floor. i ran over to investigate what was going on and the guys were just screaming, "he's stabbed a couple of women". i'm guessing from the bar, from the fishmongers' bar. so they were screaming that. so everyone was just on top of him, trying to bundle him to the ground, and we saw that the knife was still in his hand, he was covered in blood. the knife was still in his hand, so ijust put a foot in to try and kick him in head... we were trying to do as much as we could to try to dislodge the knife from his hand so he wouldn't harm anyone else. so, the guys that were there were just amazing. incredible people. heroes beyond belief. the police were there within minutes, which was incredible. they started to drag all of us off, and that is when you see the guy that had the knife

with the suit, he is... he has found a knife that has been dislodged, it kind of went down the side of the pavement, he has picked it up and taken it away, because we wanted to make sure that that is all that he had. we wanted to make sure that we dislodged that tour guide stevie hurst was one of those who helped to restrain the attacker. he's been speaking to 5—live. roger graef 0be is a criminologist and filmmaker. he is visiting professor at the london school of economics, a member of the metropolitan police independent advisory group on race and a former advisor to the sentencing council. hejoins us now. thank you very much for being with us thank you very much for being with us again bbc news. we have spoken before about the complex issues of sentencing. this is a man he was sentenced in a part of what would have been a very serious terrorist activity actually taken place and the police had not intervened to prevent it. he was released because

her sentence had reached the halfway stage, after the court of appeal said he should not be an indeterminate sentence, a substitute is one of 16 years and he served eight. that is routine, isn't it? for prisoners to nurse to be released at half time why a question mark what is the thinking behind that? there are two reasons, one born because the full—time sentence without hope of parole leaves present surge disappointed and depressed and they become literally impossible to handle. so, it is to manage present numbers are to give people a sense that there is a light at the end of the tunnel. it was originally designed for people like this, for people who are really very dangerous. the first one was about

people who are sentenced to that, much more used byjudges for the stages people. it is very surprising that he was moved to one of those. so, the automatic release for people who will have hopefully have learned something is based on an optimistic view and also just plain management of space. but terrorists are a separate category, their ideological different. therefore, they should not be given the sentence. different. therefore, they should not be given the sentencelj different. therefore, they should not be given the sentence. i suppose it makes the point, i mean, the pa role it makes the point, i mean, the parole board are making the point that actually they would had nothing to do with this process. precisely, because as you say, it is automatic. the survey things that need to be looked at. the other question is twofold, one about the supervision of people after they had been released in this kind of category. we understand that he was tagged,

having a tag on its own is not going to be an issue, because he was at a public event to which he had a p pa re ntly public event to which he had apparently been invited. so, he was not apparently engaging in any activity that would have got any?. but there will be people raising questions again of what sorrow supervision takes place of people after they have been released of such serious offence. it is notjust that, the supervision of anybody who's been convicted and sent to prison. it is woefully inadequate, because the probation service has been absolutely decimated by cuts. people have focused entirely on the two much in the police cuts come as bad as they are, and the present officer cuts, as bad as they are, and they are very serious in terms of potential rehabilitation. but the cuts the probation service mean that really echo range of offenders who need the kind of attention that anybody else... is lacking. i

understand that this chap actually asked several times while in prison to have a deradicalise, who could work with him, because he realised, apparently, the error of his ways and stop when he came out it looks like he was radicalised all over again. he had actually been a model prisoner and wanted to change, but there were no resources to give him. it isa there were no resources to give him. it is a tragedy for everybody, including the victims obviously was not indeed, presumably very serious questions will now be raised about what is going to be put in place so that this is not repeated in future cases. what, given your involvement and interest in the criminaljustice system, what do you think is lacking? because i remember talking toa lacking? because i remember talking to a former prisoner not so long ago, not somebody who committed a terrorist offence, but they said when they first went into prison

they had a dedicated prison officer. to make sure they were notjust act into a culture that would actually make the most of their key men. but thatis make the most of their key men. but that is all gone because of the turnover of staff and the increasing use of agency staff rather than full—time prison officer is particular jails. full—time prison officer is particularjails. it is to do with numbers, frankly. at the moment, when we were filming in a prison where prison officers tried and wa nted where prison officers tried and wanted to do theirjob, they did sentence planning with a designated officer, i watch that 20 years ago and once west were at least had a serious chance of working. most offenders commit their crime because they want respect and attention and i get it sometimes from a prison officer, that can be enough to change the whole direction of their lives after business but now, it is tragic to see all of these characters in both the prison officers who want to help and the prisoners who are just trapped in cells 23 hours and 50 minutes every day. how do you think you could meet

a life when you're alone or along with somebody else's committee something worse, waiting for something worse, waiting for something hope of a change and some attention again? theyjust do not get it. they cannot numbers, it is tragic. roger, criminologist and film—maker, thank you very much for us. the headlines on bbc news... the prime minister visits the scene of the london bridge attack — where he said people convicted of terrorism offences shouldn't be released from prison early. the attacker‘s been named as usman khan, he was on license after being automatically released from prison, when he killed two people and injured three more. the queen hails the bravery of passers—by yesterday, who restrained the attacker before he was shot dead by police.

snp leader nicola sturgeon is campaigning in st andrews today. she made a speech in scotland's pitcher is on the line. let us beta are corresponding to spend her weekends following the snp around scotland. alexandra, this is incense a routine visit, but inevitably scotland's politicians and its policing will be as acutely aware of anyone else of the need to look at security questions all over again as a result of this attack in london. yes, absolutely. there was a very different tone to campaigning here in st andrews today. now, nicola sturgeon took to the stage and she paid tribute to everyone involved yesterday. to the families of those who lost people in the attack yesterday, to the emergency services and to others who risked their own lives to help others. so, yes, a very different tone was set. but she

was speaking to a halt fill of delegates here in the beautiful university town of st andrews, in the constituency of northeast by. now, this is the uk's most marginal seat. the snp did retained the seat in the last election, but only by two boats. historically, this was the seat of the liberal democrats for many years. now, speaking to delegates here this afternoon, nicola sturgeon painted two very different scenarios for scotland. she painted a picture of scotland if borisjohnson was back in ten downing st after the election and scotla nd downing st after the election and scotland had to leave the eu, as we know scotland voted to remain in the european union. much is said was that brexit is the biggest threat to

the nhs in its history. she said brexit would also be detrimental to scotland's economy and forjobs in scotland. now, the other picture that she painted was that it scotla nd that she painted was that it scotland was independent and what she said is that a boat for the snp is about to keep the tories out of downing street and a vote towards that referendum and in her words she wa nts to that referendum and in her words she wants to have that referendum next year. now, idid wants to have that referendum next year. now, i did ask how she was going to get that, because boris johnson has said there will be no referendum if he is prime minister and jeremy corbyn has said the rubino referendum in the early years ofa rubino referendum in the early years of a labour government. now, she did not want to dwell on that, she said she had another date in mind and was looking towards campaigning for the selection on the 12 december. she has said that this is a crucial election for scotland and scotland's pitcher is on the line. alexandra,

thank you very much. rail fares will rise by an average of two—point—seven per cent in january — according to the body that represents the rail industry. it means some commuters will see their season tickets go up by more than a hundred pounds. the independent watchdog transport focus said a majority of rail users did not feel they were getting value for money. katie prescott has the details. christmas is coming and for commuters and south—western railway attachment on the same of scenes like these, strikes on the line start on monday. so, the news that train fares will rise again next year about the standard rate of inflation has not gone down well but these passengers in bristol.|j inflation has not gone down well but these passengers in bristol. i think these passengers in bristol. i think the rail service probably needs to be improved nationwide, before they can think about putting up barriers. i have just come from cambridge and it would have been cheaper for me to to paris. today's announcement means many commuters face an increase of more than £100 in the annual cost of getting to work. but example, a

season getting to work. but example, a season ticket from eastbourne to london goes up £136, tipping it over the fight thousand pound mark. a season ticket between glasgow and added about such a backpack boy thousand £200 a year, up 106 implants. —— a season ticket between glasgow and edinburgh will set you back. at the moment we're going to a re cord back. at the moment we're going to a record splurge on the railway network. more money is being put onto the network now than at any other time since the victorian so, we are replacing half of the entire nation's bleats, but we are also putting money elsewhere by adding extra services but they are really needed. both train companies and passages say they would like to see a new, more flexible system for players put in place as this is one of the many issues expected to be addressed in a major review into the rail industry which will report after the election. and katie

prescott is here with us. in a sense, we knew that rice were coming. they all most always seem to rise. but this is coming at a time but there's quite a big debate over the whole pricing structure of rail, never mind labour‘s call for effectively taking it back into public action. there is a big review at the moment. a former boss of british airways is interested in ticketing. he says that the airlines have been very innovative in this field, everything of companies like skype scanner, for examples of a wide choice of bears. looking at the realise it is quite the opposite. 0ne realise it is quite the opposite. one of the things he would like to see when this report comes out in the next parliament is a lot more innovation in the way that we buy tickets. so, you may be able to buy a ticket on a train that but also work on a bus, for example. if you are a season ticket holder but you

we re are a season ticket holder but you were part—time, you could buy a part—time ticket. were part—time, you could buy a part-time ticket. these are all things that could be done. a certain amount of resistance from the rail industry, hasn't there, overthis? train operated companies did say they were going to shake up the system and make it easier. is there any evidence that that is change?” am afraid not and until the baby comes out very little is going to be able to change, actually the rail delivery group when they put up a statement this morning said they wa nt statement this morning said they want to see a change in the ticketing structure, but it is unlikely that that is going to happen soon. as you mentioned, labour and the nationalisation plans and that is also something the green party would like to see, we are expecting an announcement from labour about they would like to see the ticketing. the lib dems have already said they were to cap them for the duration of the next parliament and the conservative party, i think, parliament and the conservative party, ithink, but i parliament and the conservative party, i think, but i to clamp—down on the impact of strength. she said, this is coming at a difficult time, on monday we're going to the a month

of strength through the court september, up to christmas and south—western railways and i think many passengers get they have just had enough. thank you very much. now it's time for a look at the weather. really cold and frosty start for much of the uk this morning, temperatures close to —10 across rural parts of scotland. problems with bulk and some still lingering through parts of the midlands, it as the pennines and east wales was up it is starting to left and an area of low pressure bringing some at best brain into the aisles of selly and cornwall. more cloud across parts of the uk. a few showers for northern anti—support in scotland, because some of those going overnight. the rain across south—west ireland was not to pull away. some gusty winds, a0 to 50 miles an hour. the frost not quite so extreme and neither believe about either, but some folk across the midlands into northern england and

the northern have at the uk, once again, very cold and frosty. temperatures could get to —9 or —10 across rural parts of scotland. cold but sunny tomorrow for most. 0ne across rural parts of scotland. cold but sunny tomorrow for most. one or two showers are northern and eastern coast, but for most it is a dry, but will die. hello. this is bbc news with shaun ley. the headlines: the prime minister visits the scene of the london bridge attack, where he said people convicted of terrorism offences shouldn't be released from prison early. the attacker‘s been named as usman khan. he was on license after being automatically released from prison when he killed two people and injured three more. the practice of automatic early release where you cut a sentence in half and let serious, violent offenders out early simply isn't

working, and you've had some