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can help radical new policies that can help the regions, places outside the london and the southeast which have been neglected actually that would been neglected actually that would be very good, and to be fair. even if there is some kind of economic wea kness if there is some kind of economic weakness which i agree with grace, i think that's quite likely in the not—too—distant future boris johnson has got five years to come good. without an election for the next five years as long as by year four oi’ five years as long as by year four or five things five years as long as by year four orfive things are five years as long as by year four or five things are going much better that's what needs to happen, and in fa ct that's what needs to happen, and in fact in the meantime but there are difficulties on the brexit side he will be in a position of perhaps being able to try and blame the eu rather than anything that's happening here. you have to give credit, this was an amazing victory. a giant roll of the dice but the gamble paid off. and he has now got ca rte gamble paid off. and he has now got carte blanche gamble paid off. and he has now got ca rte blanche and gamble paid off. and he has now got
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carte blanche and free reign to deliver what i hope you will deliver which is to bring the country together to help the groups that have been left behind. a lot of elements of monetary policy, for example, that have benefited the wealthiest groups and benefited older people, and helped house prices to soar away from affordability from young people. if we can help to try and address some of that that will be really good for the country, but you know there's big gifts and big tests to come. we will see a new governor of the bank of england soon as well, that would be interesting pick to see what happens there. can i take you both to the front page of the daily telegraph because while boris johnson is enjoying his moment labour party is licking its wounds, grace what's the telegraph saying? this is a piece you're talking about the furore that has comforted jeremy corbyn in his first meeting of the
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shadow cabinet. various stories here about how jess phillips shadow cabinet. various stories here about howjess phillips reading on in grand feet and people putting pressure on corbyn to get rid of karen murphy who seems quite interested in the campaign, i mean probably this is looking at the acrimony amongst mps and former mps directed towards corbyn and saying it was entirely his fault, which there were certainly some mistakes made and i think the way in which the manifesto was crafted in absence ofa the manifesto was crafted in absence of a very coherent and compelling narrative in 2017 as well as the strategic error of try to become a remain party and squeeze those votes all contributed to this defeat, and as has been written that came up a lot on the doorstep of
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indecisiveness of brexit and contrasted very starkly with johnson positive clear message of get brexit done, but then again many of these mps have been pushing for corbyn to adopt a much more programming stands for very long time, only some of them, lisa nandi and carolyn flynn, also pro—brexit who really have a leg to stand on i think when it comes to this stuff. what is troubling, perhaps, is that there seems to be an element of denial at the top of the labour party. this was, i mean i was out on the doorsteps listening to people and talking to people around the country, and the message was, it was corbyn and the policies. and it was not just brexit. corbyn and the policies. and it was notjust brexit. if you look corbyn and the policies. and it was not just brexit. if you look at the polling done since then it's amongst people who switched from labour to the conservatives between 2017 and
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2019, only 6% said it was that policies and the vast majority sided corbyn and brexit, deftly in absence of the kind of leadership that johnson presented which was a very strong, put your faith in me, i will do x, y, and z strong, put your faith in me, i will do x, y, and 2 which is never been jeremy corbyn's style. it's also interesting to see the parallel with what happened to theresa may, and it was her aides nick timothy and a few of the hill that carried the can, and whether others will carry the cani and whether others will carry the can i don't know, but corbyn is that is going and mcdonald has said is going to lose an opportunity for labour to rebuild and renew the party, and maybe try and pick up on some of the elements. i think there was a lot of security concerns among traditional labour voters. you know, the friends that this guy has and
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the friends that this guy has and the favourable views of russia and venezuela is not necessarily... i'm not overture percent that's what's wrong it's, ithink not overture percent that's what's wrong it's, i think a lot of people who were, i was on the doorstep as well in the northeast and northwest a lot who would come out and say a terrorist, not for the labour and a longtime, you cannot avoid the conclusion that this was a brexit election and they were did not have a clear position on brexit. election and they were did not have a clear position on brexitlj election and they were did not have a clear position on brexit. i feel sorry for so many of the good labour mps who have unfortunately gone and there staff having to be let go. let's go to the front page of the guardian, starmer, one of the people what they expected to be throwing his hat into the ring for the liber leadership and we are saying must put in and damaging infighting but we just put in and damaging infighting but wejust had it put in and damaging infighting but we just had it writ large with emily thornberry and, you know taking them
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to court. the labour party is a broad church, as does the conservative party. similar battles if there was a defeat of a similar scale, there is no unique level of infighting and labour party. but it is what happens. given the way in which we lost which was having lost all those seats in the midlands and the north, it's unlikely that someone like starmer or thornberry is going to be able to take on the mantle of leadership because a london lawyer like starmer is not a threat to the ideal candidate to win back someone like working ten or ashfield. i think will be bailey, angela rayner and his is there to be a woman or brock consensus has to be
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someone outside of london. the manifesto being a policy overload was true. but whether or not that translates into a victory for them i think is less. interesting they are saying we must not go too far to the right. i think a lot of people were saying that one of the big problems for many people who are traditionally labour is that it had gone too far to the left. age divide as well. a lot of younger people wa nt as well. a lot of younger people want that left—wing agenda whereas middle—aged and older people in the heart of england feel less co mforta ble heart of england feel less comfortable with that perhaps. i don't know. on some policies that's true, but all things like rail nationalization, 64% of people supported, the green new deal which could have been the centrepiece of the campaign, 63% of people up and
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down supported. similar on other forms of nationalization are also quite popular. most people agree we need to be spending a little bit more in that austerity has now gone too far. but i think that's pretty much the conventional narrative across the piece politically now. but that's a result ofjeremy corbyn because we are conclusively agree we need to move away from austerity deftly not the case in 2015. so, as a country and in terms of the discourse move substantially to the left on a lot of policy and that's showing up in whatjohnson is saying and we will see if it shows up in what he is doing as well. it will be interesting, i agree, what he is doing as well. it will be interesting, iagree, the what he is doing as well. it will be interesting, i agree, the most likely situation for a non—londoner and a woman as well, but then a lot of people might be fearing that actually that will be pretty much
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the same policies as we have just had, and which did not work for the country. whether by delivering the same message with a different messenger it will work i don't know. the tories i think, and the tory media which of course has quite a big influence i suspect we'll be looking for any opportunity to say this is just the same old, just jeremy corbyn with another name or face. at very different world when brexit is done and at different messenger, and hopefully with a different means of communicating the message because that isjust policy, after policy after policy. when you say when brexit is done do you mean afterjanuary the 31st or are you talking about... that's a good question. the end of the transition period, i don't know, once you enter that period and would you enter
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something of a technocratic exercise in negotiating free—trade deal with european union and free—trade deals with other nations particularly looking towards the us and that i think will be the source of some political tension, i know that labour party will deftly resist any trade deal with the us that includes anything that looks like a move towards privatising the nhs, but i think after so many years of people being so sick of talking about this we will move on at some point. hopefully have an agenda that includes much more than brexit. hopefully have an agenda that includes much more than brexitm will have to be going on. have to have a relationship with the eu. probably be playing off a us steel against you relationship. going to cut in here. we want to to do non—politics that we failed. thank you very much for the moment. that's it for the papers this hour. ros altmann and grace blakeley will be back at half past eleven for another look at the papers,
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and don't forget you can see the front pages of the papers online on the bbc news website. it's all there for you — 7 days a week at bbc.co.uk/papers — and if you miss the programme any evening you can watch it later on bbc iplayer. thank you ros altmann and grace blakeley. goodbye. here's your message for early on wednesday morning, a thick fog currently forming across parts of england at the south, and the midlands, the north of england as welcome as over that fall could linger into the afternoon as well in some of its early in the morning could really be quite thick so ticket study on the roads. that's not the only message from the other is that this weather front will be approaching us tomorrow and later on and that's going to bring some wind and rain to western parts of the uk initially. let's have a look at the early hours in the fog forming across the south than in the midlands and start forming across the north as well.
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the temperatures early on wednesday and around freezing another half of the uk, some icy patches are possible. he is not fog again in the morning, during the rush hourfog in northern england as well. should disperse most of it and some sunshine around but we have this band of wind and rain sweeping away that mutually wife weather around the coast particularly for england and wales, ring for belfast as well and wales, ring for belfast as well and gail's gusting in excess of 60 miles an houraround and gail's gusting in excess of 60 miles an hour around the coast is not unusual but it is heavy weather so be prepared, and then wednesday evening into the early hours of thursday start to see pushing for some pretty mild airfor the time of the year all the way from the southern climate and that does mean on thursday it is going to be really mild, ithink on thursday it is going to be really mild, i think the mildest day of the week for sure we will call it and wetter at times day and then temperatures getting up to the
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potentially how warm? 14 celsius, and 10 degrees in belfast and glasgow as well. no snow. thursday into friday we keep the southerly winds as of this is thursday night and early hours of friday and see for the pulses of rain heading our way so really soggy changeable and mild and just the week, it does look as though this temperatures will probably drop a little bit, not going to be hovering around 13 or 14 for very long, backed onto around eight or 11 may become friday. end of the week really unsettled across most of the uk and the indication is that this unsettled and relatively mild weather will continue through the weekend although how much rain and sunshine we are going to get this weekend is still a little uncertain but suffice to say i will not say it again and again, u nsettled. not say it again and again, unsettled. goodbye.
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this is bbc news. the headlines at 11:00: prime minister! boris johnson returns to the dispatch box — he says there'll be a new law to finish brexit talks by the end of next year. this parliament is not going to waste the time of the nation in deadlock and division and delayed. asjeremy corbyn meets his mps for the first time since the election, he's robustly challenged by one who lost her seat. john worboys, the so—called ‘black cab rapist‘, has been jailed for life at the old bailey with a minimum term of six years, for attacking four more victims. john war boys is an incredibly manipulative and dangerous individual and obviously while we welcome the life sentence today,
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real concern as he be out

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