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rest to leadership campaign in the rest to leadership campaign in the rest to lead the labour party. today he defended anti—austerity policies. there is sometimes a tendency to lose an election to say everything we believed in the last four years has to go. wrong, in my view. now, breast implants are the most popular cosmetic surgery in the uk and millions of people have them without any problems but more than 100,000 women have taken to online forums to discuss breast implant illness, they describe suffering from a wide—ranging symptoms from allergy reactions to excruciating joint pain to mental health issues. your speed looks into the mysterious phenomenon and talks to some of the women who say they have been affected. let's be honest, it's a part of the body society is obsessed with. if you don't like yours, it can hit your self—confidence hard.
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i hate them. i've lost weight and it's all gone off my boots. i would definitely get a bootjob. symetry, not really the size, just a bit more symmetry because one is bigger than the other. i lost weight quite rapidly so i would get a breast lift. i would get them bigger! 0bviously. so much so that around 8,000 of us get breast implants every year while most women love them at first. what size were they? i was a 326. wow. having the boobs they always wanted can turn into a nightmare. physical pain, extreme fatigue and allergies. it can even lead to mental health problems. just so much pain. the fatigue isjust... they call it breast implant illness. i thought, i am dying, really dying, there is something in italy horrible but nobody would listen to me. but it is still a mystery.
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no one can agree what is causing it. some women are convinced it is there implants but ask most surgeons. there is no proven breast implant illness. i have to say it is in your head, not in your breast. breast implant illness has turned into a rout that is dividing medical professionals around the world. what might prove to be need? many say the uk is lagging massively behind other countries, leaving some women taking huge risks just to try and feeling normal again. i'm really nervous, to be honest. a bit emotional. this is before you had your surgery, it doesn't look like you had much to worry about. no, visit what you are not seeing as the toilet tissue! underneath, sipping the bra. we have come to meet beth who had breast
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implants put in when she was 23. i was never bothered about size, i was a b cup but the shape of them, i felt was always weird. the underneath, it seemed to fall away too soon and without a bra or anything, they were literally pointed to the floor. i said to my mum, since the age of 16 or 17, i don't feel normal, i want breast implants. everyone had these perfectly round breasts and mine didn't resemble anything like it. a few years later, but got engaged but she was so self—conscious, she never let her fiance see her naked. he was offended that point as well. he was like, how can you not just me? i guess that caused a few problems intimately? it was self—loathing, i suppose. i was just not comfortable with him seeing them as they were. i just really felt deficient in being a woman.
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it was in the build—up to their wedding that she decided to take plunge. i knew that having breast implants which make me feel a bit differently about things. millions of women around the world never experience any problems with breast implants, which i still the most popular choice but it comes to cosmetic surgery. women have been getting them since the early 60s and they can set you back up to £8,000. after her surgery, beth felt great. she had a new boobs and a new husband but it wasn't long before she started having problems. 18 months on and she was getting unexplained panes followed by fatigue, muscle spasms, numbness and anxiety. my knees hurt, my hips hurt, my lower back hurt and they were all things which had never been a problem for me. i thought, i am quite a stoic person in general
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anyway so it takes a lot for me to instigate going to the doctors the first place. with just over counter medicines, i could not control my pain any more. beth has been going back and watch the doctors for nearly a decade stop they still cannot agree on what is causing her symptoms. there was one mri scan of my back which came back and it described my spine as a pristine. the point, i guess she should be grateful that i was really incensed by it because i thought, it is not, i can figure is a pain. i know there is something going on but it began to make me feel like i was a bit crazy. it knocks your confidence a little as well. she has been prescribed everything from painkillers to antidepressants but after doing her own research online, she is convinced her symptoms are being caused by her implants. there are times when i do have a cry about it. there are times when i am just,
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i feel so let down by my body. my family publicly see the worst sides of me and that upsets me. my beautiful girls just deserve better than that and it is not for want of trying that i'm not able to deliver on that. so how is it that something like a breast implant in theory can put someone in the same position as beth? we have come to body world in london to speak to a plastic surgeon. you have very kindly come out of surgery for us today to bring along some implants to show us them. tell me what they are. an implant is made of silicon so you have a silicon shell. inside this you have a sticky silicon gel which is gooey. if you were to cut the implant in half, all the jail would sit where it stays. a breast implant is usually placed in an incision under the breast. it would go in front of the muscle or behind the muscle. people think it goes into the breast, it goes behind the breast to all of your breast tissue
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sit in front of the implant. how is it something like that could potentially cause breast implant illness? the honest answer is, we don't know what causes it. the jury is still out on whether breast implant illness is a thing. we think it is the bodies reaction to the silicon. it is present in lots of medical devices, cardiac devices, hipjoints, joints. there aren't people walking around with hip joints associated illness, kneejoint associated illness, so we don't really know what it is that is associated with breast implants that can cause the illness. as for beth, she is now in so much pain, she is not sure how long she can deal with it. just checking in and reporting. a tricky day. just so much pain. ijust want to curl up in a ball. i'm going to enable it. burning sensation
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in my hip and back and general fatigue and joints aching and a cracking headache. i'm hoping today is going to be, today, tomorrow, will be a better one. we will see, i hope so. i don't think i could take to many more like this. i'm going to sign off now. bye bye. something bad is considering is having her implants taken out but could that helper? we are here to meet melina who has had her breast implants removed. we are going to find out how she's getting on. lovely to see you. expanding is a risk. it involves going back in for more surgery. the boobs will visit get smaller again and it is no guarantee it will get
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rid of your symptoms. where did this all started, why did you have your implants?” where did this all started, why did you have your implants? i was modelling at the time and for me, my boots don't look good enough for thisjob. i boots don't look good enough for this job. i wanted boots don't look good enough for thisjob. i wanted to boots don't look good enough for this job. i wanted to get them boots don't look good enough for thisjob. i wanted to get them done. i already had quite large breasts. they were big. let's see some photographs from your modelling days. what size where they? i was a 3026 i was having a great time with them, i was working, getting a lot of work. i got pregnant, had my first baby. that is when the first symptoms started. everything i came in contact with, i had a reaction. body wash, creams, i could literally have a piece of bread and i would
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becoming out in a rash up my arms, my shoulders. at the end, ijust stopped eating. i was so afraid to put something in my mouth without having to feel sick. but i never ever would have thought it was my implants. you just don't put that together. you think i'm dying. i kept telling my doctor, there's something wrong, i know. it was a struggle to get up and put my daughter in school. the brain fog, i couldn't concentrate, i had to read the same sentence over and over again. i managed to put her in skill and come back and slept all day long. at this point, i thought, i am dying, i'm really dying, there is something and it's fully horrible but nobody would listen to me. it wasn't until a girl on instagram,
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this is the power of social media, she told me about this group on facebook and it was, oh, i had breast implant illness, it is my implants! there was no doubt in my mind that this is it. she said she had to sell herjewelry to pay to get her implants removed and she things the difference was instant. that brain fog that was sitting on top of my eyes had gone. the rashes literally disappeared in front of my eyes. for me, it was not, oh, we will see what happens, it literally happened right after i had them out. melina's story is prove her implants we re melina's story is prove her implants were the problem. 0r melina's story is prove her implants were the problem. or is it? melina's story is prove her implants were the problem. or is it7m melina's story is prove her implants were the problem. or is it? if you feel better, i will believe you but i have to say, it is in your head, not in your breasts. we do not have
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a scientific link which proves that these are caused by implants. there is no proven breast implant illness, it isa is no proven breast implant illness, it is a description which people use to describe a number of various symptoms. there is a publication recently where two women had similar symptoms. 0ne recently where two women had similar symptoms. one had had cosmetic the other had had implants for reconstruction. the women who had them for cosmetic reasons, had them removed and claimed to be felt better. the other woman did not and she also came to her felt better. the key question here is, i these symptoms linked to implants. it is the biggest question we have and thatis the biggest question we have and that is where we lack any evidence. we hear patients who say, i have breast implant illness, i am having implants out tomorrow. they are then interviewed sometimes on tv and say,
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i feel great. any scientist would tell you that if the illness is related to a problem with the silicon, it doesn't switch off the moment the silicon implant is removed. so that makes you very suspicious that we don't know enough about what is going on. this is something globally which needs more research. it is such a nebulous group of symptoms that it is fully difficult to come up with a good way of running some scientific research. is there a true link and what is the best treatment or management for these patients and how to be diagnosed them? we know there are women who have breast implants who feel unwell with them. what is unknown is whether it is because and effect whether there are other things that are going on in their lives as well. if it does affect you, make sure that you get good advice and i think get psychological
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support before you rush into having an implant removed. the whole picture. we are doctors, we are supposed to look at the whole patient, not just the supposed to look at the whole patient, notjust the small breast. but despite what the surgeons say, melina has no regrets. all those years ago, you loved having bigger breasts and they give you so much confidence. now you haven't got them, are you still as confident as you wear? yes, a lot more actually. look at this, this is what i used to have to buy, something like this. massive. looks like a parachute. there's not a lot of options. i love my breath as they are, i love feeling of being
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natural. i have scars from here to here and i've got a start there and scar around my nipple so i am still with scars but i have never felt more sexy and confident as i am now. i know a lot of girls are probably scared to take them out because how they will look and feel but i wouldn't be scared of the feeling after because the minute you start feeling better, you start feeling more confident anyway. i don't even ca re more confident anyway. i don't even care what size they are because i am healthy. ultimately that is what all women want. how do you feel in it?|j women want. how do you feel in it? i feel great. this is a halterneck so normally that would hurt like hell. you feel confident? ifeel good. but! that would hurt like hell. you feel confident? ifeel good. but i am in the shop! love it.
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it only takes a quick search on social media to find breast implant illness who are being told it might be in their mind when the problem is in the implants. they feel like they are being ignored. the uk has been accused by some experts have not taking breast implant illness seriously enough. research into it is being made a priority in countries like australia, the usa and some parts of europe. we have flown to holland, one of the places where surgeons have to wear their patients about it. this is a scientist, one of the main forces speaking up. he has spent over 25 yea rs speaking up. he has spent over 25 years researching it. we have spoken to surgeons in the uk who say they do believe that women have got symptoms they are describing. but
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they are not certain is related to breast implant illness, what do you make of that? i think if we have sufficient evidence to show that breast implant illness is caused by the breast implants. the immune system tries to remove foreign bodies and that course is where you have thinning system for. this is not to say that you get it because you have silicon breast implants, you have silicon breast implants, you have silicon breast implants, you have the genetics. then in combination with other environment factors and silicon breast implants is one of those, you have risk to develop the disease age and more severe. you can develop the disease age and more severe. you can see develop the disease age and more severe. you can see the immune system is activated, you can demonstrate it in biopsies and you can demonstrated in the blood by doing lab tests. what more proof to be need before we say that this breast implant illness is due to the
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silicon plantation. in some countries, the surgeons in holland for example, they are asked to tell patients, when them of these possible breast implant illness symptoms when they go in for their initial consultations. that is not something that they do in the uk. that is wrong. the uk is wrong for that. now also in the united states there is a black box warning for plastic surgeons to inform patients that breast implant illness could be induced by breast implants surgery and that should be done in every country. we're lagging behind a little in the way we did with it?|j think so, yes. women have the right to know what they are going to do so at the information is crucial. we've come back to sea bed who has decided to ta ke
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come back to sea bed who has decided to take the risk and get her implants removed. she is getting ready to head to the hospital. we are due to arrive at around 7:30. perfect outcome would be that i gained my health back and also, she is able to leave my breasts back in a form where i am contented or reasonably but i don't really care how big they are, ijust want reasonably but i don't really care how big they are, i just want to feel that they are, that word again, normal. i am feel that they are, that word again, normal. iam in feel that they are, that word again, normal. i am in a feel that they are, that word again, normal. iam in a nervous, to feel that they are, that word again, normal. i am in a nervous, to be honest. i didn't think i would be. before they were put in, i had a few butterflies but not anything like this. of butterflies but not anything like this. of course, the stakes are a lot higher this time. i have two children put up a bit emotional.
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in the short—term, i will be doing the cooking, housework, no different! sorry, alan said that property. it will be amazing. i can't rememberwhen property. it will be amazing. i can't remember when you are not in pain. i'm so proud though you have gotten on with it really because a lot of people would have fallen of a cliff by now at not be able to function. so to do the things eg makes me proud of you. i'm just so hopeful that this is the solution stop to be fair, the surgeon today said, there is no proof about this. she did acknowledge that they don't know these things yet. but there was an element of, when doing this for peace of mind, not your physical
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health. you have been in surgery for 80 hours and some recovery time, how are you feeling now? relatively good. i mean quite a lot of pain relief but i guess that was to be expected. do you feel any different. you're on painkillers but the moment, do you think different?” feel quite clear—headed considering the level of drugs i'm on! i think some of that is public excitement. you don't have any sad feelings that they are now gone? not at this stage. i guess i haven't been confronted with their appearance
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yet. the two ladies who are looking after me. said, what a lovely result that had been achieved already so i think i probably got a little more breast tissue and i anticipated so i'm looking forward to seeing them. some point. notjust yet. i'm just s0 some point. notjust yet. i'm just so happy. i'm through to the healing s0 so happy. i'm through to the healing soi so happy. i'm through to the healing so i can hopefully get my life by contract again. while most women live happily with implants and will never have to face what bet has gone through, should the government be doing more to support others like her? we asked the department of health didn't reply but in the build—up to the 2019 election, we met then shadow health minister.- the moment, when a woman signed a consent form to have a breast implant operation and they don't
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have to be given all of this information and i believe that is wrong. i believe on that consent form, it should go into details of breast implant illness, what it means, the percentage, the worst—case scenario. means, the percentage, the worst—case scenario. surely a woman deserves that? the least they should be given is the full details of what may happen so then they can make an informed choice and then, if they are one of the percentages where it does go wrong, they will no straightaway and will be looking out for it. they won't be going back and forward to the doctors, on this merry—go—round that so many women that you have spoken to have been on, that isjust that you have spoken to have been on, that is just wrong. that you have spoken to have been on, that isjust wrong. one session we spoke to said he cannot possibly warn women about this on thames because he doesn't know sure that it exists. this israel. all of these women, their symptoms disappear once they have the implants removed. that proves what is causing the symptoms. surgeons need to take a long, hard
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look in the mayor and ask themselves why they believe it doesn't exist. they should be telling them before they sign on the dotted line. it's been a few weeks now since we saw beth and she has asked us to come and meet in the gym, which i am guessing is a good sign. we are in the gym now, something you could only have dreams of doing it before when you are in a lot of pain with your implants. how does it feel now to be able to do this? brilliant, it is just freedom. now to be able to do this? brilliant, it isjust freedom. in terms of thejoint brilliant, it isjust freedom. in terms of the joint pain, brilliant, it isjust freedom. in terms of thejoint pain, i brilliant, it isjust freedom. in terms of the joint pain, i still have a bit but i have come off my main nerve agent tablets and i'm just on paracetamol so i couldn't have functioned before. do you think it is all happened as quickly as you
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had hoped? yes, i think realistically i had those implants in the 1213 years so i cannot expect everything to go overnight. things are completed. my key to happiness in life is your health. i have never taken that for granted again. for those out there who think breast implant illness is not real, what would you say to them? when you think about it, it is totally common—sense to assume that it could cause your system some disruption. soi cause your system some disruption. so i think the people who are coming up so i think the people who are coming up against breast implant illness are the ones with a vested in —— interest. 0ften are the ones with a vested in —— interest. often times it is surgeons, their bread and butter, the medical advice has a lot to lose, it is just scary what was in my lose, it is just scary what was in d lose, it is just scary what was in my body for that long. the bed, her life is getting back on track but the moment, there is no weather way
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of knowing exactly how many living with near permanent pain she was just a few months ago. if social media is anything to go by, it could be hundreds of thousands. acknowledgements of breast implant illness and further research into it is starting to happen but unless the professionals can agree on whether italy exists or not, is hard to see how they can be any real change. we are getting a taster of what we can expect in the coming week. wet and windy weather dominates the scene. in parts of northern ireland, we have seen hardest of rain and strongest of wins but it will clear up strongest of wins but it will clear up in the afternoon. the wet and windy conditions are only part of the story. we are drawing out milder
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air that is through this warmer sector as we go to the afternoon we are expecting to see the strongest of the guests, potentially of the hills. we still have some heavy bouts of rain working into cumbria this action. ahead of the rain, it is still windy and quite a lot of cloud around. it is here that we are seeing those temperatures well above average for the time of year. double digits for many places. this evening, our band of rain will continue its journey down towards the south and east, taking with it the south and east, taking with it the strongest of the when. the further north you are, the skies will start to clear. the ease ease. they could be an ice race on sunday morning because temperatures will drop that bit longer. close to freezing in 12 spots. down south, where we had the wind and rain, a milder start. we had another band of
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rain three lincolnshire, wales, the midlands and clearing yorkshire as we head for the afternoon. behind it, it brightens up some good spells of sunshine. the northern half of the uk, is going to feel a little fresher down towards the south, we still have those temperatures above average. and to the start of the new week and all eyes are on this area of low pressure which is winding itself up in the atlantic. it looks like it will bring stormy conditions. we begin monday on a fine, dry note with some good spells sunshine. through the day, the cloud will increase and rain starch edges weigh in. it will turn wintry of the hills of scotland and with this rain, it will be accompanied by a strengthening went. we are expecting deals, perhaps severe gales in 12 western spots. a tricky commute to finish the day on monday for some western areas. that is how much of next week continues. some heavy
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downpours of rain, some strong when, gales perhaps in monetary spots which could lead to trouble disruption.
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