warming that is the kind of ideal target if we are stop climate change. this story as we were saying a moment ago on the front page of the metro as well. we have trump and greta looking like they're staring each other out in the event that they were not, they were in a bigger room. not on the platform together. i thought it was quite interesting as well listening to president trump. he also seemed to be talking about a kind of conspiracy by big socialists effort that began on decades and the climate conspiracy was the latest iteration of this attempt by socialists to control every aspect of life. is that what that kind of free enterprise lobby actually believes? i don't think so. i think that if you're a genuine s and free marketeer which is not represented at davos as the ultimate crony capitalist coming together, big business, while bs, politicians on one room, nothing good will come of that. if you are a genuine free

marketeer, you go to the market for those solutions. you have seen such advancements in green energy and shale and fracking white i do not think it is the end goal and solution has we help the us to bring down those carbon emissions. innovation is helping to solve climate change. this standoff is difficult because greta is a teenager. she is a child and we need to be very careful about our language around her and the president has not been kind or thoughtful about her in the past which helps to paint them in this standoff was up at greta has also said some things today that we had to challenge was that that in eight yea rs to challenge was that that in eight years time, we could be looking at basically the end of the world. 20/20 is an interesting year to be discussing this because a lot of articles from the late 19905 marked 2020 as the year that 8 million people would die from climate change, that all the glaciers would have melted. they also turned out not to be true. certainly, the presentation appian playing as before that we should completely ignore the issue of climate change. but we need a reason debate and i

frank i think this standoff shows how far away we are from that reasoned debate. people want to choose sides between the president and someone like greta. obvious to the answer is going to be coming together to discuss this. looking at the front page of the independent polly, this point kate is making about fee greta thunberg message. i suppose her argument would be not that it suppose her argument would be not thatitis suppose her argument would be not that it is the end of the world in 2030, but that there are irreversible changes i that point and that is why the thing is urgent. and i suppose coming to the point that kate is making about the nuances of a moderate and thoughtful discussion, but anyway that is what we all need. yeah, i spent a lot of my wife arguing... —— about my life. greta has inspired means by the people to raise the profile of climate change and make it so it

does feel much more like the emergency it could be if we don't act incredibly quickly on this. but we have to do that by getting business and citizens together rather than this kind of adversarial approach that almost suggests we should just kind of close down every shop, every factory, every road as quickly as possible because actually it is the investment in research and develop and in green energy that are driven in part by a well—regulated market economy that can enable us to create the science that will help us to prevent this dangerous climate change. and on that point, trump's comments on socialism driving the green agenda is not that i necessarily endorse what he is saying but i think he is trying to note that there has been this movement of the left wing in different parties around the world west to move towards green policy and sometimes we have seen socialist tendencies and crime activists overla p. tendencies and crime activists overlap. again, ithink tendencies and crime activists overlap. again, i think because of

the way the president speaks, he says and in such a way that is all—consuming and is difficult to find a nuance. but i think is is a trying to say that you will need different at p —— ideologies to find middle ground because as you say, you can't to shut down all the airports tomorrow. there would be economic and social chaos. four but we should not pigeonhole into something that wants to the left because there is a view about conservatism protecting the assets you have which weather that is a kind of faith—based belief. you have which weather that is a kind of faith-based belief. in protecting gods creation or kinda mainstream small stream conservatism but also believe that a proper market economy ought to capture the costs off actualities. .. which it currently doesn't stop but we don't tax aviation fuel. we don't have a way of taxing carbon, we don't tax pollution stucco we have through things like a passenger... and really lumpy ways that are not really lumpy ways that are not

really effective. if you could harness market forces to genuinely make businesses paint for the costs of those expert analyses, then you would actually deal with a lot of these problems and i think free marketers are to recognise that we do not have a properly functioning market at the moment that you push ci’oss market at the moment that you push cross on the future generations. market at the moment that you push cross on the future generationsm is possible when greta cumber talks about insufficient promises from business leaders that she is talking about those market solutions as those otherwise was a —— when credit number talks about. she has not been for university, she is a teenager, still develop in her ideas in many ways. i very much hope that she and herfans do ways. i very much hope that she and her fans do think there are market solutions to this because if we ignore the huge benefits that actually innovation and mass production and trade and infrastructure and the rest have brought to our lives especially for the poorest in society, then we are looking at going back to the dark ages before moving forward. looking at going back to the dark

ages before moving forwardm looking at going back to the dark ages before moving forward. it is worth acknowledging that it is an extraordinary thing when you get the president of the united states on one side of the front page and you get a 17—year—old who was barely known a year ago taking the world by storm of the course of the past year and she is right up there. they almost look at their different species in these photographs. let's not go into that in more detail. now that let's go back, many front pages here cycling around them, but let's go around back to the guardian's front page which has got a coronavirus fear growing. us reporting its first case. polly. we have over the last 15 years had a series of the kind of scares about pandemic illnesses about sars and avian flu that thus far have not turned into pandemics killing thousands and thousands of people, but this is another risk. it is possible that because we have so

much international travel the stays that people with a new emerging illness which is hard to treat would travel across borders and spread this new virus. six people have died so this new virus. six people have died so far. but it is chinese new year and their concerns from public health experts that it puts spread further. this is one of those areas where you have to bow to expertise, recognise that there are checks that need to be put in place whether at airports or... or elsewhere within kind of countries. whilst we work to kind of countries. whilst we work to kind of countries. whilst we work to kind of ensure our resilience. where the health system to come under pressure, the question of antivirus treatments and all that stuff. we ought to go now to our last story, this hour which is this rather

extraordinary quite involved story which the guardian is leading with for some amazon bossjeff bezos phone hacked by saudi crown prince. sources are telling the guardian. i think it is worth me saying at this point that the saudi tsar they have nothing to do with the hacking of jeff bezos‘s phone. kate talk is that the story they're stopping with this is a remarkable story in which it is alleged at the crown prince of saudi arabia may have played an active and direct role in the hacking ofjeff active and direct role in the hacking of jeff bezos‘s active and direct role in the hacking ofjeff bezos‘s phone. active and direct role in the hacking of jeff bezos's phone. jeff bezos being the founder of amazon 110w bezos being the founder of amazon now one owner of the washington post and billionaire in the us, a very influential man and man will have an interesting phone to say the least, i don't get would just be photos of cats and dogs probably, some very interesting information on their not just connected to one of america's online tech giants but also a very prominent newspaper. sources, journalists, etc. if this turns to be true, the most shocking thing is the one taking of saudi arabia may

have played an active role in sending an infected link to him via whatsapp that he would have clicked on to get information to his phone. that would be that make it is not only hard to wrap our minds around but the way that foreign policy, our interactions with countries especially like saudi arabia which traditionally the united states has been uncovered we close to is changing at such a dramatic pace. polly it is a quite delicate story and we need to be careful about the legalities about it again because the studies are denying any involvement. absolutely, we were just talking about davos displays where world leaders come to exchange niceties over a glass of champagne. it's interesting to reflect on the way billionaires and crown princes and presidents to interact and they are exchanging whatsapp messages. i wonder who else has been exchanging whatsapp messages with the crown prince ina whatsapp messages with the crown prince in a prison wheat lots of people. there is obviously no suggestion in this story that other

people have been hacked but it does raise the question about what happens when communications which would have been held through very formal secure channels in the olden days are happening in such a deeply informal way. we are going to have time to consider all of that in more detail into look at the other front pages that come in in the next hour but right now, thank you so much for joining me. iwill see but right now, thank you so much for joining me. i will see you again in a few minutes. so, these two will be back at 11:40pm for another look at the papers, you can look at the front pages online. bbc deco dot uk/ papers for some that is it for now. goodbye. hello there. we have started this week off in a fairly settled note with quite a bit of sunshine around

across england, wales and eastern scotla nd across england, wales and eastern scotland and it has all been down to high—pressure. it is still with us through wednesday but we will see certain changes where we are losing the colder blue air there. off the atla ntic the colder blue air there. off the atlantic and into the orange and yellow colours. for the whole of today, things the high—pressure will be dry come up more moisture will make a cloudier crossing than in wales. we will see a lot more cloud around, the best of any brightness will be across eastern scotland where we will have shelter from the south—westerly wind. there may be a brighter spell for the south but mist and work around two, winds will remain white and there will be nothing to stir up the air. i mounted air like nothing to stir up the air. i mounted airlikei nothing to stir up the air. i mounted air like i showed you, that hermas from a 10—11 degrees and it could be miles across the north—east of scotla nd could be miles across the north—east of scotland with good smells of sunshine. a5 of scotland with good smells of sunshine. as we head through wednesday night, it's days growth of aquatic for most areas. there could be the odd clear spell around, if that happens then it will be chilly

inafew that happens then it will be chilly in a few places but for most with the cloud cover, it will be a large tree frost free night. thursday and friday, very similar days, we will continue with high—pressure, generally white twins and a lot of cloud around with leaden skies and hill fog and mist and merck too. we start to see a change to the weather is who move out of friday and into the weekend, our area of high—pressure retreats to the near continent and go pressure pushes and off the atlantic, more isobars on the chart there. saturday might start off cloudy in england and wales, more of a breeze picking up especially across scotland and northern ireland and this weather front will be encouraging abrasive rain in western scotland into western parts of northern ireland. on shower ahead of it but we should start to see sun as the breeze picks up, temperatures go from 8—10 degrees. this weather front spreads across the country during saturday night and by sunday a week feature and eastern parts of england. a band of cloud with rain should clear away

pretty smartly and behind this, the sky should be brighter but sunshine around. a breezy day, cooler air masses well and called cross north—west, some of these showers falling as sleet and snow in the higher ground. about 10 degrees in the south—east.

this is bbc news. the headlines... at the world economic forum in davos, president trump hits out at climate campaigners, calling them "prophets of doom". we must reject the perennial prophets of doom and their predictions of the apocalypse. you say, "just leave this to us, we will fix this, we promise we won't let you down, don't be so pessimistic." and then... ..nothing... ..silence. donald trump became only the third president in history to face an impeachment trial. the