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this is nice. i've got some new friends. don't make a new look for the brexit cast and i have the massive job of the brexit cast and i have the massivejob of being the brexit cast and i have the massive job of being adam and chris. iam not massive job of being adam and chris. i am not sure i can live up to the reputation though. you should have your own reputation. already have a reputation. an anti—social reputation. an anti—social reputation. on your left. i am the editor of the times, and anything
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else they get me to do. no pressure. so you are in charge of the jokes? fine. you're also, if a joke creeps out, that is fine. or if it is not funny. but one of my good best friends is still with us, but she is... enough of your new friends already,, where does, why make it is very nice to hear you and i look forward to this proper gastronomic, if you like the feet, that is where you get stuck in, right? so, iwould not know anything about that laura. all news only. there was news today, it was very quiet weird way because,
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the withdrawal bill that we spend so much time on this programme talking about just actually became much time on this programme talking aboutjust actually became law. blinking this it. all of those years of my life, your life, everyone's life. it was literally, distorted. order. order. i have to notify the house in the real innocent act of 1967. that her majesty has signified the royal assent to the following act. european union withdrawal agreement act 2020. order, order. and there you go, nigel evans and arch brexiteer. lu but he is not even speaker, he is the deputy speaker. amazing. what went through your head? almost nothing. i saw it
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later on. i feel like your head? almost nothing. i saw it later on. ifeel like if your head? almost nothing. i saw it later on. i feel like if we went with this anticlimax, it just would've happened then. but the majesty assigned it, after everything, what went through your head, if anything? i agree with matt, when those is like ok it's over now. done with the formalities. the pmc was running on time and that isa the pmc was running on time and that is a bit weird, isn't it? 30 minute pm cues is a bit weird, isn't it? 30 minute pm cues as is a bit weird, isn't it? 30 minute pm cues as well? i am not saying that i'm not relieved because in some ways, all of this endless knife edge tension has been pretty difficult to cover and to try to do the responsible, but the fact that it is all written in law that we cannot for an extension, that is another good thing for this year. cannot for an extension, that is another good thing for this yeahfi is such a new era and it's finally sinking in because i've had a lot of
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conversations and he was saying that must be weird, but if you're going to do? but there were not many people working in westminster and the site within the second, any memory at all of what it is like, either covering or being a part of a government that doesn't really have to worry about that? it is been so long because the past few years have been the bit you had to make weird but 2010 was coalition territory even though you had a coalition agreement, is fairly stable thing because they headed these majority. you had all that rambling and all of that time, it is a massive period, a decade and more of not really having a decent majority and then they turned to the labour government in terms of power wrangling to what is going to happen next. ijust think this is a huge period of adjustment where it is learning how to operate in this new territory and for me,
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just to be like, 0k, in this new territory and for me, just to be like, ok, you know, we can sort of leave the office before midnight andl can sort of leave the office before midnight and i can play badminton on occasion. yes, do you know what i mean? i occasion. yes, do you know what i mean? lam occasion. yes, do you know what i mean? i am rubbish, occasion. yes, do you know what i mean? lam rubbish, do not occasion. yes, do you know what i mean? i am rubbish, do not get excited. mainly because i have not played a lot. does this sense of, there's still a lot of things to do to look out and it's really important policy, but it does not have to be like right today and we do not know it's going to happen tomorrow. it is variety though, i rememberat the end tomorrow. it is variety though, i remember at the end of last year, looking back at the review, so much as happened in yet this constant fever pitch of the votes but nothing passed, people resigned and nothing happened. it feels like it was so inconsequential and incredibly stressful, the entire country became incredibly stressed about it all. in the outcome of the election wasjust
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a sense of relief. and as a journalist, i feel like kicking a sense of relief. and as a journalist, ifeel like kicking the tires with a few other public policies. waiting for things to come out, some of the some of the magistrate seems to really be on the brink and a lot of that is been crowded out of the news against the drama, but actually i think it is not going to be the period fridge —— for boris johnson. -- for boris johnson. will allow him to get a bit more proactive. you're so to get a bit more proactive. you're so tied up and reacting to massive events that have a time and time again and others in opportunity to get to find out about all that stuff and wraps really good opportunity to look at it from the perspective. do you think anyone in the continental pa rt you think anyone in the continental part of europe is actually noticed the screen there is some formalities to come here as well. the european parliament now has to rectify the brexit deal now that our problem it is done that, so that is going to
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happen on wednesday and but also, this is a smoke moment for michel barnier because this is where he says to everybody, you charged me with getting an orderly withdrawal of the united kingdom just imagine if we were heading into now was no—deal brexit. actually, nobody's going to really notice much difference the day after brexit because you are in this standstill transition agreement the next day before. so he is putting himself on the back. he is suggesting that politicians can be a bit smug, but there are none of them in westminster at the moment. there is no one! no one. none of that going on at all. i think on the other side, the eu is very aware that even if it also wanted to get on with it, if it also wanted to get on with it, if the uk was just wanting to go already. brexit is not going to
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overs ha d ow already. brexit is not going to overshadow an eu business to the same extent after actually happening. it is going to be a big deal, so even if the eu like to say to say to you now, china is much bigger deal for example. yes, russia and iran and everything. at the trade deal is a big deal for the eu and of that time taking away again as it will be to the end of december, it will be a big focus for the eu for the whole of this year. it isa the eu for the whole of this year. it is a little sad the next week there'll be some ceremonial flags going up and down in british mps packing up the boxes and coming back for the last time. but in the next bit is not going to be straightforward at all. and, you know, 15 barney a, who had a hard core brexit casters will note is a critical part of his team, some listen to this podcast, was in london this week saying that next week is going to be more complicated but also, coming outwith, because
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it's brexit, some new very helpful metaphors. please make the metaphor stop if nothing else, come on. take and now salami and ravioli stuffing was there cherry in there? yes, cherries and all that kind of stuff. lam allover cherries and all that kind of stuff. i am all over ravioli because... ok, ravioli from bologna. this, is packaged supermarket ravioli straight from the airport supermarket. so only glamourjean brexit cast. it's got to be fresh when i lived in brussels, lived on that. how big is it? the individual
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ones? ravioli is individual, please. to make this happen to me only today. i was with chris mason and a cabinet minister and went to a re sta u ra nt cabinet minister and went to a restaurant and there was it on the menu and it is basically a massive one single big parcel. which is what they are talking about here. this is what they want so... what does that mean, though? he is basically saying that remember when we been talking by this for the past couple of brexit cast about this idea that the uk was saying, look, ok. have a strict timetable but we would do is racked up some victories. he will make a agreement of security,
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financial services, the uk hopes. and we would knock off all of these agreements would go along in the eu was saying no, we have this ambitious political declaration. you wa nt ambitious political declaration. you want to fully comprehensive trade deal or we going to pack all of that content into a ravioli and coated with a bit of pass the around the edges but want to stuff it into one back and not have little ravioli. we cannot see your ravioli, you're lucky, you can see the ravioli that she is talking about but we cannot see it here in the studio. it is a terrible disappointment. bye-bye. another very important fact, i checked the ravioli... raviolo idea.
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he did not use the word ravioli. where did it come from? it's not me. was a political? politico. to all he said was i prefer this kind of pastor where everything is integrated as a main course. exactly, pasta with sauce. this is another important fact but as we a lwa ys another important fact but as we always say, just because it is a serious subject doesn't mean you have to take it seriously before, i asked what his favourite type of ravioli was and he said, ricotta and spin —— or truffle. -- or truffle. the eu has been clear now that even though the commission
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president was talking about priorities and giving the impression that this may be, we know beyond closed doors. there is a lot of closed doors. there is a lot of closed doors. there is a lot of closed doors and cabinet in government about what their mandate and what they will set out in what are you hearing about what it was set up when they do, we expect that quite soon actually, don't we?m set up when they do, we expect that quite soon actually, don't we? it is fisheries right, and although it is a small industry by most standards, it is not totemic in who gets leverage of or who, norway, which is got a looser arrangement with no negotiable management every year. but that is for europe to give away. enough to remember, going back this is quite process and tech and you think about those early battles in the last stages of negotiation at the last stages of negotiation at the timetable and how important that proved to be at the end of the
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process comes a lot of the surly positioning is crucial which is where reassuring messages from the government about the direction they're going to go like from the chancellor who has been the doorposts when talking about their expectation on how closely tied to the eu as we get in line.|j expectation on how closely tied to the eu as we get in line. i think it is fairto the eu as we get in line. i think it is fair to say, they put the will is up is fair to say, they put the will is up some businesses, i probably should not of said that. when elegant turn of phrase. when he said, we are going to diverge. the question of divergences how different will things be in business as we know we'll talk about it a lot over the years, there really worried about how much they will have to change, if they want to keep selling to the european union. but he was talking and basically saying look, we do want things to be different. the disruption has to be worth it, i suppose, for this government. they
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have to show a brexit was worth it even though they're unhappy about it. but that is kind of, the question of far they would go. it. but that is kind of, the question of far they would gom was a definite shift in the language, when he was a doorposts, he was saying that we will maintain high standards not because we are told to be because you want to. and it is shifting to basically nothing is going to change, but we're just choosing the nothing is changed as an independent sovereign country and i think that is a big shift from people who think britain is going to be radically different from january next year, they're going to be disappointed. the fact that we are personally opting at everything again as an independent country, they will try to sell that his victory. this'll be an essential question that a lot of the talks going forward, to diverge or not to diverge because the language today as well, we will not disturb for the sake of it, but from a political point of view and if you take fishing as an example. they're really involved in that who admitted, really openly, if
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privately, that economically, it is a tiny part of the economy. but politically it is a big totem and of borisjohnson politically it is a big totem and of boris johnson can say, politically it is a big totem and of borisjohnson can say, we have to get control back of our waters and we catch more fish, the net is going to drive people around. and you have to drive people around. and you have to think about where they won the election, the fishing communities which had a liberal tradition and this time voted for the conservatives because of the brexit argument and if you do, if you like, if they view this is being sold out, and when boris johnson was waving around his fish and going in before polling day. wherever you were boris johnson lived his fish? for a week, honestly, he loved the fish. and the fisherman left him. did he kiss it? i remember during the referendum he actually kissed the fish. in didn't you say let slip the cost of war.
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and did a shakespearean riff. while you're talking about, not just for the sake of it, but this is dealing with people who are obsessed with big ben, despite a lot of the case for doing this. showing, proving politically that you've done something is always quite potent, isn't it? many believe that was the heart of the referendum result, perhaps not expressed in those terms but the terms we can do what we want to the country and that fixed a lot of people that voted to leave the european union. in exactly the opposition, see what i did there was what i try to couple of times but it didn't work, so i try to get a bit clumsily. is like i'm learning from the master. last week, if you're watching this last week, cheer
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starmer who is in the labour leadership race, we sat with her yesterday to talk about the election, to talk about what she thought about brexit and why she wa nted thought about brexit and why she wanted to be leader and like most people in this race, this consensus that the brexit policy was a bit confusing and a bit tricky to explain to people and it was really striking to me that how much he just wa nted striking to me that how much he just wanted to stick to what was said. she kept on using aspiration. thousand change of tone, but she did actually say that we had a great set of policies, the right answers in the resolutions and i'm not making anyjudgement on the labour but when you've had such a system in the enormous defeat, is quite surreal to hear people talk about that. everything was brilliant, there are just problems of the brexit and the little bit of leadership in the issue of anti—semitism. you followed this closely, confronting which
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actually happened in this race?|j think actually happened in this race?” think that was really short. she started with the guardian which was very fagan platitude written, —— vague. but she said when she talked about aspiration and you've never heard jeremy corbyn do this. it is definitely a break, but it very much feels like she hopes to be the inheritor of the mantle and that she has managed to and there is a huge constituency that the schema more jeremy corbyn and there is a lot of members who asked who was the best labour leader and the first was jeremy corbyn the second was tony blair. and you ask what you want from a labour leader? do you want three election victories or a crushing defeat? and apparently they wanted a crushing defeat? and apparently they wanted to crushing defeat. shall we have a listen? do
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you consider yourself having any tory friends? i have a group of friends are not political and we do not talk about politics we do not talk about politics and even though you voted labour all sorts different people, i do not know, they would not tell me if i did, it would be angry. do you have any friends in parliament? not really, no. you're putting yourself forward ? parliament? not really, no. you're putting yourself forward? but i'm friendly to everyone. you're putting yourself as a labour leader and potential prime minister. how do you think you would handle that? millions of us, things to do on a friday night, you take away and sit down the family, can you imagine doing that in number ten? yet, no one gets away of the netflix and chinese take away. i probably was not exciting enough, i do not know what they expect me to do, paragliding on a friday night. you have a little seven—year—old know you want to do is chill out in your
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pajama and watch netflix. do you think that it's going to end with chill? i have never been paragliding ona chill? i have never been paragliding on a friday night. i am not sure. i think, as performance, the message was very strange but it speaks to the problem with this campaign. they have gone straight into trying to win over the people who twice shows someone who lost the election and have not come to terms the fact and who can win over tory voters and they keep on trying to win over... you talk to the party to get elected and she was thinking i can't get past the gate of the labour movement and at the moment, it feels like some of the counters are getting to that party bit first because they have to. yes. you have to. i will
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ask, not alex but guess.” have to. yes. you have to. i will ask, not alex but guess. i will go with tears, last time i went with yvette cooper so. so do not listen to helen! all of the evidence suggests cheers, but it is spot on. he is not the most interesting. he is coming through by not being overly interesting. he is trying to liven up what is otherwise quite a dull campaign, whether or not there's enough time left for her to come through at the moment.” there's enough time left for her to come through at the moment. i cannot help but ask you, talking so you go for your lunches and this is a practice in westminster and in the awful cosy club, we are always
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accused of having lunch partners, which means you can get a politician to ata which means you can get a politician to at a time so to speak. what is chris like having lunch? absolute filth. chris mason and politicians. what is he like? the one thing which is guaranteed is that chris will always have a pudding. i can always tell which putting it is going to be. it was... quite often a crumble, if there's anything on the menu dimension structure, you'll have that. and quite often the minister of leeds, chris and i say and had a putting in a nice chat afterwards. always taking time for putting. does barley 20 jobs. i know! better than him leaving his unpeeled had in
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carrots or other newsroom. so would tell them even more about that. he really does do that. not just carrots, just leaving them at his desk. why does he leave them on the desk? he has a pudding at lunch. he is in big trouble when he's in teddy my coming back next week. very —— he is in big trouble when he comes back. if not, it will be back on the television but that is all we've got time for tonight but it is been lovely having you guys. thank you so very much indeed and that is it. goodbye.
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hello there. the weather next week is going to look and feel very different from what we have had over the past week. the weather pattern is changing and broadly speaking, it is changing and broadly speaking, it is turning more unsettled in that process starts during the second half of this weekend. prior to that, we still have an area of high pressure in charge of our weather and underneath that, we've seen a few gaps in the cloud but on the whole there is a lot of cloud around. a week weather front across scotla nd around. a week weather front across scotland and northern ireland, having moved southwards and moving northwards on the western side of scotla nd northwards on the western side of scotland in northeastern scotland seen some sunshine and we may get some sense to the least of the pen nines but for many parts of the country, there will be a cloudy day if you're living in the hills, it will be misty and murky and they may bea will be misty and murky and they may be a little bit of drizzle with temperatures around eight or 9 degrees, a little lowerfor temperatures around eight or 9 degrees, a little lower for scotland and northern ireland competitors they may be a little bit of drizzle with temperatures around eight or 9 degrees, a little lowerfor with temperatures around eight or 9 degrees, a little lower for scotland and northern ireland compared to
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thursday, we have that band of rain moving up to the far north some stronger winds as well and then through saturday, the high pressure sta rts through saturday, the high pressure starts to decline towards continental europe allowing more of the south westerly breeze to develop and is that picks up, hopefully it will break the cloud up a little bit more across england and wales of the best brakes with high ground, where two showers was to scotland and western parts of wales in the far southwest of them than with some rain to the far northwest by the end of the day with temperatures. of the day with soon rain to the far northwest by the end of the day with soon after the weekend that weather fronts moves across the uk and the winds pick up and we introduced some colder air to the west. some struggle once developing on sunday, we've got this hour with a band of rain that is raggedy rain showering that will linger across and then into the afternoon, also probably brightening up afternoon, also probably brightening up some sunshine, showers wintry of the hills of western scotland as the air starts to get a bit colder. it's the beginning of next week, the
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colder air behind the weather front and some showers. we look to the south where in some developing area of low pressure and that bring some concern later on in the day. much of the day is sunshine and showers with winter over the northern parts of the uk and there were that weather from driving, the cloud thickens, the one starts to pick up and we drive some rain and from the southwest. some computer models develop a deeper area of low pressure we re develop a deeper area of low pressure were the result will be stronger later than monday and into monday night. we have got some stronger winds across the southeastern parts of the uk but we could get stronger winds more widely. by the time you get to tuesday, the low—pressure one or another should be out of the way we are back at the sunshine and showers frequent showers frequent showers across the north of northern ireland must in scotland, the winter of the hills with colder airfor must in scotland, the winter of the hills with colder air for northern parts of the uk on tuesday with temperatures for 5 degrees. if you look further ahead to next week, we see the temperature being replaced
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by modern air and back to court her again as the wind direction changes in the south westerly to the northwesterly, just an indication that things are turning much more u nsettled that things are turning much more unsettled and more changeable weather was stronger winds and you can see towards the end of the week, it actually looks a lot more mild but wet as well. and that is the other part of the story. we have a strongerjet other part of the story. we have a stronger jet stream that other part of the story. we have a strongerjet stream that is driving with her friends to the north of the uk orthe with her friends to the north of the uk or the middle part of next week and then driving them right across the uk later on in the week. and again, do not take that too literally is just an indication of things are certainly changing.
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three cities in china are in shutdown, as authorities try to stop the spread of a new virus that has killed 18 people and infected hundreds more. the coronavirus originated in wuhan, a city of 11 million people. no trains or planes are being allowed in or out. it is a very surreal feeling knowing that if you go outside there is potential to catch such a deadly virus. six people are undergoing tests in the uk, as ministers warn there's an increased likelihood of the virus coming here. also tonight... a bbc news investigation uncovers several preventable baby deaths at an nhs trust in kent — sparking more anguish for the parents.

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