hello, it's friday, it's 10 o'clock, i'm joanna gosling and we're live from new broadcasting house misogynstic and legally inaccurate — that's what a leading women's charity says about comments from a family courtjudge that a woman hadn't been raped because she didn't take any ‘physical steps‘ to stop the man. family courtjudges could now get training on the "appropriate" way to deal with sex assault allegations — we'll be getting the reaction of a leading family barrister and the charity women's aid. public health officials says it's highly likely cases of coronavirus will be seen in the uk. 1a people are being tested here as the death toll in china rises to 26. we are not advising people to use facemasks as i speak at the moment but of course we monitor extremely carefully all the developments. these are early days

yet with this virus. the vast majority of people who are infected do seem to be getting better. imagine volunteering to go through the menopause at the age of 21 because the pain from your endometriosis is so severe. that's exactly what happened to alisha lack she'll be talking to me live about her experience and how, for years, doctors thought it was all in her head. oscar winning actor marion cotillard tells us exclusively she's scared for her children's future because of the threat of climate change. she's currently in the antarctic exploring the impact of human activity on marine life there. yes, of course. of course. i try to, they are very young, i started with

my son to talk about it because i wa nt my son to talk about it because i want him to be aware of what's happening. welcome to the programme. we're live until 11. lots of talking points on the programme as ever, so please do join in the conversation with us this morning. have you had experience of the family courts — good or bad? the system is shrouded in secrecy and there have been calls for years for it to be opened up to proper scrutiny — please do get in touch anonymously if you've been affected — how did the court handle your situation? and have you ever felt you're going to have a heart attack watching your team play? new research has found levels of the stress hormone cortisol rocket in football fans during big matches raising the risk of heart attacks — dimming the lights after a match and playing soothing music has been suggested — would that calm you down? use the hashtag victoria live.

email victoria@bbc.co.uk, text 61124 — it'll cost the standard network rate. first carrie has the news. family courtjudges could get training on how to deal with sex assault allegations after criticism of a judge's comments on rape. during a case, judge robin tolson said a woman had not been raped because she did not take any physical steps to stop the man. the charity women's aid has described his comments as misogynstic and legally inaccurate. a seniorfemale high courtjudge says those who work in family courts could get similar training to crown courtjudges on issues concerning sexual assault. the coronavirus death toll in china has risen to 26 and there are more than 800 confirmed infections worldwide. the chinese authorities are taking drastic action to try to stop the spread, including taking temperature scans of passengers in railway stations. in the uk, 1a people have been tested for the virus, with five testing negative, and an incident team has been set up in scotland to deal with the threat.

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morning. now, back tojoanna for the rest of the programme. thank you. it's not only ‘outdated' to say a woman wasn't raped if she didn't fight back, it's misogynistic and legally inaccurate‘. that‘s what the charity women‘s aid have said, afterjudge robin tolson was criticised for saying a woman hadn‘t been raped because she has taken ‘no physical steps‘ to stop the man. the comments were made after a father, separated from his ex partner, asked to spend time with his son. the mother objected, saying he was controlling and had raped her. butjudge tolson said what had happened ‘did not constitute rape‘ and ruled against her. the mother has won an appeal against the decision. the judge who heard that appeal ms justice russell has now indicated that family court judges could get training on how to deal with allegations of serious sexual assault. well, on this programme we‘ve looked extensively at issues within the family courts. last year victoria spoke to katie, not her real name, who says she was repeatedly raped by her ex who later stalked her. she was assessed as being at high risk from homicide, of being killed by her ex.

he applied to the family courts to get contact with his daughter, and succeeded. her words were spoken by an actress. he would frequently rape me while i was sleeping, and i would frequently put up quite a bit of a fight to sort of get him off. sometimes that worked. is it possible to estimate how many times you say he raped you? i don‘t even know how many times because that coercive behaviour was insidious in that it built up, and the lines of it got quite blurred for me as to, have ijust been raped? how did the family courts come to a decision to allow unsupervised fortnightly contact with your daughter, bearing in mind what you had reported to the police, bearing in mind that multi—agency risk assessment conference, bearing in mind a conviction for assaulting a police officer? i think they felt that he deserved to have a chance of being a father. and what do you think of that?

i think it‘s an absolutely disgusting decision to make. it‘s not fair or right orjust to put women — and children especially — in harm‘s way. but that‘s what they do. our exclusive investigation revealed that at least four children have been killed by a parent — with a known history of domestic abuse — in the past five years after a family court granted access. it was an issue which was raised in parliament to the prime minister at the time, theresa may. research by the victoria derbyshire show has revealed that in the last five years, four children have been murdered following contact granted by the family court to known abusers. this morning, over 120 mps have written to the justice secretary calling for an independent inquiry into the treatment of victims of domestic abuse and violence by the family courts. does the prime minister agree that there is something wrong with a system that forces contact between children and parents that are known risks to that child? and if she does agree, will she commission that independent inquiry today?

i say to the honourable lady the family court system should never be used to coerce or to revictimize those who have been abused. and a child's welfare must be the paramount consideration for the court in any proceedings. i'm pleased that the president of the family division has published some new draft guidelines just last week, which provides greater clarity on some issues around the family courts, such as increasing transparency. the ministry ofjustice currently have not seen evidence to suggest a public inquiry is necessary. but i will ensure, i will ensure — iwill ensure — that the new minister forjustice meets the honourable lady to discuss the concerns that she has raised. within days, the goverment announced a review of the family courts, led by the ministry of justice, to look at the issues we raised. we are still waiting for the findings of that review.

here to talk to us about the family courts, and specifically the issue ofjudges attitudes and training when it comes to cases involving domestic abuse and rape, are dr charlotte proudman, a barrister who practices in the family courts. and lucy hadley, campaigns and policy director at the charity women‘s aid, which has long called for reform of the family courts. thank you both are coming in. lucy, we are able to discuss this case simply because the woman to get to appeal and that means it can be reported, otherwise we would not be able to talk about it, we would not know it has happened. what is your reaction? it‘s absolutely horrific and anyone who has read the judgment will agree with that but it‘s not isolated, unfortunately. we‘ve been campaigning on this issue for years, the family courts are simply not safe 5 pa ces the family courts are simply not safe spaces for survivors of domestic and sexual violence. i think we know perpetrators use the family courts as a means to continue their abuse and control but what this case shows so clearly is that it‘s sexist attitudes within the

court system that enable and facilitate that abuse to carry on. we hear from facilitate that abuse to carry on. we hearfrom women facilitate that abuse to carry on. we hear from women all the time about her understanding and awareness of domestic abuse and sexual violence by the family court judges and family court professionals. it absolutely needs to change. charlotte, in the case is that you work with, how often do you see these themes coming through? sadly, i see them a lot, i work with these cases day in and out and this is not an isolated one case out of a grant number. this, you see, happening time and time again because judges really lack an understanding of rape, domestic violence and how that impacts upon others lie but also more importantly upon the child 's welfare so i've seen cases upon the child 's welfare so i've seen cases mothers upon the child 's welfare so i've seen cases mothers have alleged domestic violence or control, the office rs domestic violence or control, the officers in some cases have said actually i think there's a real risk to the child if contact takes place with the father. and the judge has come along and said i disagree. i

think this child should have contact with the father regardless of what the concerns might be. and as a result, i've seen cases that have gone on years within the family court because the father 's behaviour towards the mother has become part and parcel of a pattern of abuse but then towards the child. don‘tjudges see that? i mean, in this case, obviously, we‘ve heard what thejudge said this case, obviously, we‘ve heard what the judge said about the rape but they must either themes coming through in these cases?|j but they must either themes coming through in these cases? i think part of the problem is because they become quite desensitised, it's a better dv as one judge refers to it, domestic violence, it's just a little bit of domestic violence and they see this time and again and they see this time and again and they forget the gravity of domestic violence and rape and how it impacts on the lives of women and children and in this case it's an example of the need for training forjudges who deal with serious sexual assault and making sure there are protective measures in place for women. in this

particular case, the judge himself cross examined the mother in court, can you imagine how frightening and re—traumatising that was for the woman to be cross examined by the judge she was supposed to be impartial, who is supposed to be fairand are impartial, who is supposed to be fair and are supposed to be above all ensuring a fair and are supposed to be above allensuring a fair fair and are supposed to be above all ensuring a fair hearing? instead, she no doubt felt like a perpetrator, completely unacceptable and we see that happening so often because there's little legal aid available for a was she representing herself? she was representing herself? she was representing herself? she was representing herself but the alleged perpetrator was not represented and that meant he had the opportunity to cross examine the mother so in effect, he continued the abuse as we've heard, it often occurs within family courts as a mechanism for the power and control to manifest itself. lucy, these are cases that play out in court as charlotte says often over years. in the meantime the kids are growing up. what impact does this having on families? that's what we have to remember. at the

heart of this case was about determining contact with the father that was safe and in the child ‘s best interest. how can a judge with limited understanding of domestic abuse and sexual violence understand the nature and impact of the child, it has devastating and often long lasting impact on the child ‘s welfare and development and domestic abuse is a recognised form of child abuse is a recognised form of child abuse or if you don‘t understand the link between domestic abuse perpetrated on the mother and the impact on the child and its life and development you can‘t understand what is safe and did their best interests. the courts are basically predicated on a rule whereby it is right for children to have contact with both parents. to move away from that, potentially runs the risk of somebody losing contact with the child, where it‘s perhaps not right. how do you strike the balance, what are your thoughts charlotte? of course, you're right, there is a presumption that contact with both

parents is a child 's best interest unless this information or evidence to suggest otherwise. but of course this case is an example of where there is in my view, from what i've read, overwhelming independent evidence, not only from the police but also neighbours and other individuals that this mother has been subjected to domestic violence over a been subjected to domestic violence overa numberof years, been subjected to domestic violence over a number of years, it's a pattern of abuse. and yet, despite the independent evidence, the judge took no notice of it and the judge decided that this violence hadn't happened and the rape hadn't happened. and so, even when you have that evidence to show contact would not be in the child 's best interests and the child may suffer harm, the courts don't always reflect upon it. the ministry of justice when we asked for a statement referred us back to a paragraph from the ruling by mr justice russell and so i will read it out because it refers to what you are talking about, this new training forjudges pointing outjudges and the family courts are regularly required to make decisions and bad

backs are cases where there is domestic abuse and that will include cases for serious sexual assault is alleged to have taken place. there is comprehensive training in the procedural aspects of such trials in the implementation. of how it is in particular butjudges who sit in the family courts are not required to undergo the training as you‘ve described. it goes on to say i‘ve discussed this with the president of the family division and is going to make a formal request to the judicial college for those judges who make hear cases involving allegations of serious sexual assault in family proceedings to be given training. the fact the ministry ofjustice has referred us to that paragraph indicates you would guess this is likely to happen. what difference would it actually make? in practice? i think, i suppose actually make? in practice? i think, isuppose i'm actually make? in practice? i think, i suppose i'm really rather sceptical as to how much impact this will have. of course it's absolutely necessary that as much training is available as possible. but whether it will actually change judges often very entrenched views about domestic violence which sometimes reflects more broadly in society and their

attitudes towards violence against women, i'm doubtful. to go back again to this judgment. there women, i'm doubtful. to go back again to thisjudgment. there is really a scathing paragraph i would encourage all your listeners to go away and read thisjudgment. the women in question, the mother, was on all fours when the father was having sexual intercourse with her which she says was against a consent and the judge said she was in a position which anyone else may consider to be vulnerable, position which the mother by all accounts did not want to be in and the judge accepted but nonetheless, could have fought him off and should have resisted to show she didn't want to have sexual intercourse. the attitudes around consent are so entrenched and often patriarchal and failed to reflect upon the fact that violence against women and girls unfortunately is a really large part of society. lucy, even with better training forjudges, our family courts the right place to be making these decisions markets hard to see what the alternatives are. these are

emotive situations. which as you correctly point out, has children at the heart of them and what‘s right for them. i think we need to see a number of things and as the piece mentioned earlier, we‘ve got an ongoing review into the practice of the family courts when it comes to responding to domestic abuse, i think that‘s going to be really important and think that‘s going to be really importantandi think that‘s going to be really important and i hope the government listens to the recommendations that makes. but we also need to can deliver some practical changes that would make a difference now, mandatory specialist in depth, face—to—face training, notjust a couple of hours as part of a package about procedural rules. that‘s really important that judges understand the nature and impact these types of crime but also, guaranteed access to special protection measures in the family courts for victims of domestic abuse, that‘s something we are calling for in the menu domestic abuse bill the government is bringing forward. she was denied a screen in this case and when we surveyed victims in 2018 we found only 7% of those with experience of family courts had access to a screen

to keep them safe and shielded from the perpetrator in the courtroom. that‘s a simple, low—cost measure that could have reduced trauma and enabled her to give better evidence in this case. there is some practical things we need to do but i think charlotte said, there is a massive cultural change that is needed. lucy and charlotte, thank you. if you had any experience of the family courts please get in touch. anonymously. you can tell us about your experiences, if you‘d like to share them. there is information on the website if you need help. the bbc action line, has plenty of organisations listed, if you‘re ina plenty of organisations listed, if you‘re in a vulnerable position and you‘re in a vulnerable position and you need support. coming up later in the programme... oscar—winning actor marion cotillard tells us exclusively she‘s scared for her children‘s future because of the threat of climate change. and residents living in this high—rise block close to the grenfell tower tell us that the removal of flammable cladding has left their homes wet, cold and damp

authorities in china say 26 people are now known to have died in the outbreak of coronavirus. there are more than 800 confirmed cases. strict travel restrictions have been imposed to stop it spreading and more than 20 million people are being urged to stay put, despite the lunar new year holiday. the outbreak started in wuhan — a city with a population of around 11 million people which has temporarily shut down as it tries to halt the spread of the virus. despite efforts to contain the virus, at least 26 people are know to have died in china and the virus is spreading across the world, with cases in several other countries, including the us and saudi arabia. 1a people in the uk have been tested for the strain with five confirmed negative and nine still awaiting a result. for public health england.

we are not advising people to use facemasks as i speak at the moment but we monitor extremely carefully all the developments. these are early days yet with this virus. the vast majority of people who are infected to be getting better. the people who have done particularly badly and sadly died, they seem to be people who have other conditions that might make them more likely to suffer badly with this virus. but it‘s very early days. so we are updating our information on a daily basis, as soon as soon as we know any more information we provide that to our colleagues in the nhs and obviously to the public. 0ur correspondent stephen mcdonnell is in beijing. enormous efforts under way to try to contain the virus. it is spreading. what is the latest? it's china 's new year‘s eve, the most important

festival of the year for chinese people. and the streets are quiet. much more quiet than they would be in virtually all cities in china. in beijing, the government is now saying everybody who arrives from wuhan, whether they have a temperature or not, is to be quarantined for two weeks. they can stay at home, but they have to regularly go for checkups to have their health monitored. elsewhere, festivals are being called off, the normal temple fair that you would have in beijing, cancelled. shanghai disneyland has been close. in guangdong province cinemas are all shot for the entire spring festival period. and closer to wuhan, many more cities are following the lead of that city, shutting down all public transport so no coming in and out of the cities and even within

the cities, no public transport and these are the drastic measures that are being taken by the government here. to try and not fix this problem but restrict it, to try and make it not as bad as it might become. and the world health 0rganisation become. and the world health organisation has said frankly, they can understand why the chinese authorities are doing this. of course, the fear is that it could become like sars. in 2002, more than 600 people died, 8000 people infected. this time, the proportion of those who contracted the disease who have died is much smaller and they want to keep it that way. but they want to keep it that way. but the fear is that there are so many more people travelling now in china and abroad. six times as many people flying out of china every year than they were in 2002 when the sars outbreak occurred. and this is why there is a fear that this could become a global problem and by the world health organisation is still

monitoring it. stephen, thank you. deeq 0mar is a junior doctor working in wuhan where the virus first emerged. thank you forjoining us. we want to get your perspective as a resident of wuhan and a doctor. tell us how you are feeling about what is going on. of course, hi everyone. first and foremost, we are concerned as eve ryo ne and foremost, we are concerned as everyone should be. but at the same time we are trying to handle the situation in a calm manner. not go into any irrational panic mode. what is happening in the hospitals in wuhan? the hospitals are being observed, monitored, people there are being on a 24/7 our watch. but at the same time, they are trying to

keep things in a stable condition as possible, trying not to escalate anything. art many people presenting themselves with symptoms because of themselves with symptoms because of the fear around how serious this is? no, i don‘t think so. i believe most people living here are staying indoors, they are staying calm, the local authorities have suggested that we should keep ourselves inside, keep the masks on, use hand sanitiser is, maintain distance from people who are coming from outside. and yes, i think that‘s pretty much what‘s been going on lately. and yes, i think that‘s pretty much what's been going on lately. and so have you actually been looking after people who have the coronavirus? no, i haven‘t. people who have the coronavirus? no, i haven't. in terms of people remaining at home, does it feel like the city, it‘s a big city of 11 million people, does it feel like it‘s effectively on lockdown?

million people, does it feel like it's effectively on lockdown? yes, it's effectively on lockdown? yes, it is. but it doesn‘t really feel like it because as you know already, it‘s chinese new year. most family members like to stay inside the house, like to spend more time with family members of course. but it‘s a bit inconvenient in terms of what you want to do, where you want to go. but there‘s really nothing you can do about it. thank you very much for joining can do about it. thank you very much forjoining us. you are welcome. the oscar—winning actor marion cotillard has exclusively told this programme she‘s scared for her children‘s future because of the threat of climate change. she is currently touring the antarctic with marine scientists to investigate how plastic pollution, rising temperatures and industrial fishing are impacting penguins, whales and other marine life. marion has taken some time out of the expedition to speak to us from on board a greenpeace ship. the oscar—winning actor marion cotillard has exclusively she told our reporter anna collinson about the ground—breaking voyage and hollywood‘s impact on the enviornment. thank you so much forjoining us today, really appreciate your time. can you just start by telling

us exactly whereabouts in the world you are? we are in the antarctic. we‘re just left paradise bay. this is honestly the most beautiful place i‘ve ever been in my life, i‘ve ever seen in my life. the landscape is... ..is beyond what you can imagine when you think about antarctica. it‘s gigantic. it‘s beautiful. it‘s the middle of whiteness and almost untouched by humans, which feels safe, i would say, and good, because we need to protect places like that. so you‘re currently onboard one of two greenpeace ships in the antarctic. can you explain why?

so, basically the mission of the team of scientists here is to... well, we‘ve been following their work and they‘re investigating the effect of climate change and fisheries. and... well, what‘s interesting is that they‘re mapping out how humans are impacting whales, penguins and other animals here. it‘ll give a better understanding of this environment in the hope of protecting it. i have two kids. i read child books with whales and penguins. you have like kind of the feeling that you know them. and then as soon as you actually really see them, it‘s all different. it‘s all real. and as pristine as it looks, even a remote place like this one is impacted by harmful human activities.

and that impacts these, like, beautifulanimals. there will be some people watching who say there are lots of people within the tv and film industry who talk about tackling climate change, and then hop on a plane and fly all over the world for work or for holiday, and feel there‘s a bit of a double standard going on there. what would you say to them? well, i think it‘s a matter of balance. and of course, nobody‘s perfect. and if we found like, you know, like the right balance. like, for example, on set if you, like, clean a set of plastic, you know, this is something that can really balance like the bad impact of other things, like, as you‘ve said,

flying, which is um, obviously like a big thing in thisjob. um... and also, i think that to do the best you can is something that is very important. um... i think art and telling stories is something that is very important in this world, um, to create dreams, to create stories that will, you know, inspire people. so, um, so yes, we‘re not perfect, but if you if you‘re aware that you‘re not perfect and you try to do your best, then it‘s the first step to awareness and change. you‘re an academy award winning actor. lots of people look up to you. how are you going to personally

change your behaviour following this mission? um... well, you know, i see my role as like a witness and a window to give some information, and also my feelings, because that‘s what i do. it‘s like sharing what i feel about where i am. i have to say, when i got here, i had many questions about the purpose of me being here. i thought it was not my place. i thought it was not the place of human beings. so i felt a little uncomfortable and sad the first day. and then you see that the scientists

devoted to raise the awareness and to show the beauty, and at the same time the impact that we already have in like, this wide place. so then, little by little i accepted to be here, and i accepted, um, to share what a scientist or a greenpeace team will not have the opportunity to share as, you know, as i do it. you have two children. do you worry about the impact that climate change could have on their lives? are you scared for them? yeah, of course. yeah, yeah, of course. like, i try to — they‘re very young, so we‘re talking about it. we‘ve started with my son to talk about it because i want him to be aware of what‘s happening. so i try, you know, not to like, overwhelm them with information

that are like, well, overwhelming and to preserve their joy. and at the same time, to make them understand that we are in a place where we need to, to see reality as it is. so it‘s a matter of balance, i would say. a lot of you getting in touch on the family courts after the conversation we had earlier following the news that there is a suggestion that judges should receive training in how to deal with cases involving allegations of sexual assault after one particular case in which a judge said a woman had not been raped because she had not fought back i wa nted because she had not fought back i wanted to clarify, because i read out a paragraph from the judge wanted to clarify, because i read out a paragraph from thejudge in the appeal court ruling, i said the ministry ofjustice had referred us to that but they referred us to the judiciary which referred us to those

recommendations. a lot to be getting in touch. 0ne e—mail says, i recommendations. a lot to be getting in touch. 0ne e—mailsays, i have been going through the family courts for five years with my ex—husband to arrange contact with my daughter and had the most awful experience. the system is shrouded in secrecy and there is protectionism throughout. child welfare is not at the centre of family courts, the process is subjective and court officers are negligent in the process. melody says, essentially the court enables abuse and does not protect women from abusive relationships and provides opportunity for. another says, can i say how pleased i am that you‘re covering this subject? it is never talked about under my ex partner was abusive towards my daughter and me and it nearly broke her and me of the family court had no interest. they have a complete lack of understanding and recognition of domestic violence. talking about the court social workers. having been part of a domestic violence support group, the

lack of support for victims was staggering in the courts and i met so many victims who had terrible experiences. steve says, to say a woman was not raped because she did not fight back is an outright and something from the dark ages put it martin says, the rate case you refer to is disgraceful. i think many judges are totally out of touch with the real world. thank you for getting in touch with your comments and if you have been effected and you need some support, there is advice on the bbc news website and various organisations you can get in touch with for advice and please keep doing so if you have had experiences you want to share. a number of residents living in high—rise blocks close to the grenfell tower have told this programme that the removal of flammable cladding has left their homes wet, cold and damp. they are claiming it‘s forcing them to choose between paying extra money for heating or buying food. residents at the adair and hazlewood towers were informed by kensington and chelsea council back in november 2018 that work to replace the cladding on the outside of their blocks needed to be carried out following the

tragedy at grenfell. 0ur reporter greg mckenzie has been to meet a number of residents this morning. i am here on the seventh floor of hazelwood tower, a block just opposite grenfell tower, which isjust in the distance there, an eerie reminder really for residents of what happened here two years ago. following that tragedy at grenfell, tower blocks around the country, the cladding had to be removed. the government ordered it to be removed because it was not safe. the cladding in this building was taken down in november of 2018. with it went the insulation. the type of cladding here was eps, it is called expanded polystyrene, and it is flammable so the council took it down and have not replaced it. it has meant that many residents are paying hundreds of pounds extra a year to heat their flats and many have told me they had to decide or choose between heating their flat or feeding their families. we can talk to some

of those residents now. sue, this is 14 months ago that the cladding was taken down. still not up. what are the council saying? they promised us initially that we would not incur any extra costs for the heating. we had economy seven which they upgraded to economy ten so it would stay on all the time, which is fine for the heaters that are actually working and flats that have got heaters. a lot of the flats have got broken windows and they cannot be fixed because the contractors have gone out of business. so there is no spare parts and we have to wait until they put the cladding back up and the new windows in to sort that problem out. what has happened is a lot of people are getting electric heaters and plugging them in to keep themselves warm and of course that is upping their electricity bills. and there are other problems, isn‘t there, fatima? we‘re talking about mould and damp and condensation. what has your flat been like, on the third floor? it started in the sitting room. than it was so mouldy. then it moved to my daughter's room.

it isjust cold, freezing, mouldy, water in the walls and it's just... not good at all. and i know you went to the council. tell us what they advised you to do. didn‘t they give you some items? yeah, they give me gloves and blanket and they told me to warm yourself with this. they give you hats and blankets and gloves and told you to go home? yeah, theyjust provide it to me and just that. and you find that is enough? no, it's not enough, it's not. i have to use my own heaters, use my own electricity and the bill is very high. it is ridiculous they gave her a hat and gloves, it isjust ridiculous. work that has gone on on the outside was not supposed to have an impact on any of our lives and it‘s having a huge impact on some of our residents. it‘s ridiculous they did that. thank you, fatima and sue. let‘s now go and talk to richard and darren who live on the ninth floor and one of them has described this block as acting like a sponge

because when it rains, the water is being absorbed into the walls and into their flats. richard has already suffered a chest infection. richard, darren, what do you want to happen? obviously you want the cladding and the insulation replaced. the council are saying, look, we‘re going to do it injuly. it is the timeframe i‘m worried about. they sayjuly but last year we were promised, had in writing, they said they were going to replace the lifts by last summer and they haven‘t been replaced as yet. what concerns me is that the cladding from the contractors has onlyjust been put out to tender at christmas time, in december. i‘m worried about the timeframe on when it is going to go back up. they have treated my wall for the mould but the water is still forming in pools on the kitchen floor. pools of water on the kitchen floor still. they have put six layers of some sort of treatment on the kitchen wall but it is not having any effect really. it has stopped the mould

but not the condensation. and for yourself, darren, you‘re not happy. not at all. what has the last 14 months been like? you have already gone through one winter? it has been pretty miserable, to be honest with you. unfortunately, the council have not learned any lessons after gre nfell. they are full of empty promises, promising they are going to compensate us but nobody has received anything yet. it has been pretty miserable here. thank you. that is just some of the residents here at hazelwood tower in west london. kensington and chelsea council have responded, they got in touch with us yesterday and said that they will offer compensation to the residents here and they will put forward suggestions for a compensation package at the next residents‘ meeting, in february. but many residents have said it is too little, too late. greg mckenzie reporting, and some further response from kensington and chelesa council. they told us in a statement...

"safety is our number one priority and we removed insulation on hazelwood and adair towers to ensure the highest levels of fire safety in our housing. we have listened to our residents‘ concerns about damp and cold and have knocked on the doors of all properties to individually assess residents‘ needs. we have enhanced the heating capacity to the blocks and have provided a tailored response to individual concerns, including applying damp seal and mould remover." well meanwhile, our colleagues at bbc breakfast have learnt that the extent of the cladding problem is greater than the official statistics published by the government. there are 278 high—rise residential blocks still with acm cladding — the type used on grenfell — across the uk. but there are other types of cladding which put buildings at risk of fire too. through freedom of information requests, the bbc has identified at least 99 high—rise blocks covered in high pressure laminate, or hpl, which is the type of cladding that caught fire at a student housing block in bolton last year.

but as many councils could not, or would not, tell how many high—rises have this type of cladding, the true figure is likely to be far higher. we can speak now to dr claire benson who‘s a fire specialist at london southbank university who‘s looked into the issue of cladding and tower block safety. thank you forjoining us. what are your thoughts on how widespread this is and why it is taking so long for it to be dealt with? i think initially it is just the scale of the problem. clearly this cladding and a variety of cladding systems are being used around the country and as you said, the freedom of information requests are being used to discover how big that scale is and the numbers keep growing. i‘m disappointed with the numbers but not surprised at all. since grenfell, i would say that fire professionals like me and others in the industry have reached out to talk to building professionals,

architects, and housing providers to try to understand what the problems are they are going through trying to fix some of the issues. and there are some real problems still in getting the issues sorted. anecdotally i have been hearing there is a real problem with actually getting hold of a skilled labour force to remove and replace the cladding, so some people would like to and have the funds to but are struggling to find a labour force to do it. equally come over the past couple of years, some organisations replace their cladding with what they believed was limited combustibility apart from then those cladding types failed the large scale tests, for other reasons. what are your thoughts on cladding overall? is it ever advisable?” think it is, in some circumstances, but we need to be really careful

about how we use it and what materials we use. i think there is still a lot of questions around which materials are safe in which scenarios and particularly residential buildings and buildings where we have vulnerable individuals. where we have elderly people, children, people with mobility issues or visibility impairment, we need to think carefully about where those people live. and of course at a block ages, the demographic will change substantially. and obviously if people are living in these blocks with cladding are concerned about the risks, our efforts being made to improve safety in other ways in the blocks to reassure them? my understanding is that where these blocks have been identified, as far as i‘m aware, certainly localfire services have put out enforcement notices and similar things to advise on what people should do and the building owners and operators are putting in place otherfire

building owners and operators are putting in place other fire safety measures such as fire wardens, you might hear them wandering the corridors, to try to make sure those environments are still safe even though they have materials on the outside that will impact promote spread of fire. as a fire specialist, how concerned are you there are so many buildings out there are so many buildings out there with these flammable cladding is on them? i am quite concerned but also i think the problem is much wider than that. 0ver also i think the problem is much wider than that. over the past few yea rs wider than that. over the past few years they have been a number of fires which did not perhaps contain cladding but other issues with fire spread, so there has been wood on the outside of buildings, on balconies for example and some buyers recently that have suggested that there may not be fire stopping inside buildings to the level we wa nted inside buildings to the level we wanted to maintain what we call compartmentalisation —— some fires recently. that make sure one by is protected from a fire in the next point that we need to explore sprinklers again and understand

where they were best use and how to protect residents using them. and also there has been a real problem with fire safety assessment. again, fire service report and findings have found they have gone back to look at buildings which had been assessed as safe and actually they have found fault with them. i‘m really glad to see that the independent review of building regulations has highlighted a lot of theissues regulations has highlighted a lot of the issues and that they have highlighted that we need decent qualifications to make sure the right people are assessing fire safety in these buildings when we do that. thank you very much. alisha lack is only 21 but she has just started going through the menopause. doctors gave her the option to get pregnant or to medically induce the menopause in an attempt to alleviate her crippling pain caused by endometriosis. it‘s an incurable condition where tissue similar to the lining of the womb grows in other places. the symptoms began when alisha

was 14 but she was only diagnosed last year. at one point doctors thought she was making the pain up and suggested she have therapy. thank you forjoining us. you have been through a long process of trying to work out exactly what the issue has been. tell us first of all what the pain is like, can you describe it? the best way to describe it? the best way to describe it? the best way to describe it to other women is like a menstrual pain. probably the worst you have but every day and quite co nsta ntly. you have but every day and quite constantly. to try to describe it to men, it kinda feels like your insight are being squeezed by something quite sharp followed by burning pains —— your insides put its horrendous that you are going through the menopause to get rid of it indicates how high they must be. you had your first symptoms at 14. that‘s when it started. you had your first symptoms at 14. that's when it started. what impact has it had on your life? it has made

things very difficult because the diagnosis process was so long that it had mental impact on me, and when ido it had mental impact on me, and when i do suffer mentally, it can trigger the paint itself. it has made me avoid social occasions —— trigger the pain. ifeel i avoid social occasions —— trigger the pain. i feel i am a avoid social occasions —— trigger the pain. ifeel i am a burden and if the pain is triggered, how i coped with it in public put it effects work, i have to have quite a lot of time off work. everything in day—to—day life is a struggle. lot of time off work. everything in day-to-day life is a struggle. and it has been suggested over the years that it might be in your mind? yes, after about two years of different procedures and tests, they could not see anything obvious. after this testing, they said they could not fight anything, have you ever thought it could be in your mind, that it could be hypochondria? i ended up thinking, if the professionals can‘t find anything, maybe they are right and it‘s in my

head. i went through therapy for a couple of months on top of antidepressants to find out obviously that was not the case. what was it like, being told it might be in your head? what did it do to you when you are feeling the physical symptoms but nobody could understand why and that wrong route went down? it made me feel like i was going insane. imagine seeing something everyday and feeling something everyday and feeling something everyday and feeling something every day and knowing it is obviously that with such a strong impact, to be told it‘s in your head. it‘s not real. you‘re imagining it. it actually made me feel like i was going insane thunder i started to get extremely depressed and having severe panic attacks when i was and having severe panic attacks when iwas in and having severe panic attacks when i was in work. it was horrendous —— when i was feinting in worse. i thought, surely something this painful cannot be mental. it had an impact every day because i was feeling the pain on top of the mental impact. when you finally got

the diagnosis of endometriosis, which was six years after you first had the symptoms, how did you feel? it sounds completely strange to say but when i woke up and they said they had found something wrong with you, i could have celebrated. it‘s very rare that someone finds out they have a chronic illness and they wa nt to they have a chronic illness and they want to celebrate because i knew i wasn‘t mad so it was a relief. want to celebrate because i knew i wasn't mad so it was a relief. it has taken you to the point where the treatment is going through the menopause? we were hoping after the initial surgery, which was to diagnose whatever was going on, they removed as much endometriosis as they could and they also told me i have a disease called adenomyosis which a different form of it which means it is deep in the muscle and they said that even though we have removed a lot, you will probably still be in a lot of pain. we tried pain relief plans, different pain relief, which didn‘t work when the

flare—ups work there, they were there and that is when they offered going into an early menopause. there and that is when they offered going into an early menopausem there and that is when they offered going into an early menopause. it is a huge decision for a 21—year—old, told you can either get pregnant or go through the menopause. you have now had the first injection. go through the menopause. you have now had the first injectionm go through the menopause. you have now had the first injection. it was horrible. 0f now had the first injection. it was horrible. of the first day i had it, within about five minutes of having the injection i felt like i was going to faint, my body went into com plete going to faint, my body went into complete overdrive. pretty much ran out of the doctors and found the closest bench and called my parents and said you need to pick me up, something has gone wrong. i thought i was going to have a heart attack. i believe that was done to a mixture of the anxiety and from the hormone surges but ever since i have been going through not only the pain but also menopausal side—effects like hot flushes and i feel like i‘m a lwa ys hot flushes and i feel like i‘m always in pms. the symptoms of endometriosis have not yet gone? no, the doctors said you will have an

initial injection and because they are putting such a strong surge of hormones into your body, they say that a lot of the time for most women you will find your symptoms get worse in the first month and after the second injection, hopefully things settle down. endometriosis is not an unknown illness. how do you feel about the fa ct illness. how do you feel about the fact it took so long for knew to be told that is what you had?” fact it took so long for knew to be told that is what you had? i think it is disgusting i‘m not talking on a personal basis, but considering the statistics have said there is an estimated one in ten women who are currently going through either undiagnosed or diagnosed endometriosis, and it took me six yea rs endometriosis, and it took me six years to find out i was ill, and i‘ve been suffering without any pain relief plan through that time, just taking paracetamol and iva propane, stuck on antidepressants which i‘m still on because i got to try to get off them... to know it‘s notjust me

going through this pain and mental impact, it makes me feel disgusted that the research is not being done to diagnose me and other women in a better time. it‘s hard. to diagnose me and other women in a better time. it's hard. alisha, thank you for coming in and talking to us. now, it‘s called the beautiful game — but for many fans — following your favourite football team can be pretty stressful at times. think of norwich city fans who saw their side lose again on wednesday night at spurs, leaving them rooted to the bottom of the premier league. 0r liverpool fans nervously waiting to see if their side can win their first league title in 30 yea rs. and remember these kind of images — heartache for england — and theirfans — after another tournament exit on dreaded penalties. this one was against italy in euro 2012. well would dimmed lights at stadiums with nice calming music help ease the stress? that‘s the suggestion from some research by oxford uni which says football matches can be too stressful and increase fans risk of a heart attack.

it also says people who go regularly should get heart screenings. with us is dr martha newson who carried out the research. also on the line is the consultant cardiologist dr alexander lyon. and we can also chat tojohn gibbons — a huge liverpool and host of the anfield wrap podcast. he‘s waiting to see if his side can win the premier league this season. starting withjohn, starting with john, do starting withjohn, do you identify with this, do you feel you‘ll have a heart attack when you‘re watching sometimes? i can identify with it, certainly. particularly last season when it felt like liverpool and man city were going for the title, head—to—head and winning every game and couldn‘t drop a point and it puts so much pressure notjust on every time liverpool play but manchester city were playing as well. i often thought, this was supposed to be a hobby, the thing i do forfun supposed to be a hobby, the thing i do for fun at weekends to relax and enjoy myself but there was not a lot of relaxing or enjoyment!”

enjoy myself but there was not a lot of relaxing or enjoyment! i think a lot of people will identify with that. alexander, there has been previous research that indicated that there has been an increase in heart attacks among fans on important match days but is that something you have been aware of? yes, good morning. we have known for many years that there are surges in heart attacks and cardiac emergencies that occur during these major fixtures when clearly there is a lot of emotional roller—coaster is in the fans in the stadium and also watching at home. you remember back to 1998, the quarterfinal in the world cup, england against argentina which went to penalties, there was a surge in heart attacks in the uk from people watching the game. we also know that, in addition to what we call regular heart attacks due to co ro nary we call regular heart attacks due to coronary blockades, there are other forms of heart emergency caused by massive surges in heart stress

almost like adrenaline. there is an interesting but phenomenon where people look like they are having a heart attack and come into hospital but it is not blocked coronaries but it's related to the huge surges and stress. martha, you think playing calming music and dimming the lights might help? it is possible. i don't know what it is that is going to work for football fans because it will vary across cultures and clubs put it but we know that football is felt really seriously among fans. we cannot belittle it asjust felt really seriously among fans. we cannot belittle it as just a felt really seriously among fans. we cannot belittle it asjust a game because it triggered this whole fight or flight response, as if there is a big predator chasing due. would soothing music and dimming the lights at the end of the match bring back somejoy for lights at the end of the match bring back some joy for you? it depends on the result, to be honest. if you have just lost in the last minute to manchester city or united i don‘t

think it might help! but i am all for ways that might improve the experience i think for all of us, remembering it is meant to be fun and enjoyable, and we put so much emphasis and importance in our life on football result, and finding a way round that is good to remind ourselves why we go. we try to do that on the anfield wrap, to say it is all about the enjoyment and of course we want to win, we are desperate to see us win that first league title in 30 years but at the same time we want to enjoy it and get together with friends and it is a community activity, football, and as much as we celebrate that element, the better really. and on a more serious note, you think clubs could get involved in helping to support the fans? i would love to see clubs take more responsibility. these are their fans who are committing their time and money and their lives, people are missing weddings for football sometimes! if the clubs can give a little bit back

by offering heart screenings or education, if someone you know is at risk of heart attack, they are having this surge in a stress hormone, what can fans do and clubs provide to help the transition that? i think we will have to talk about the research of football fans missing weddings another time! thank you very much. i don‘t know if i‘m allowed to pick aside but i hope it‘s not too heart stopping for you when they play! bbc newsroom live is coming up next. thank you for your company today. have a good day. hello once again. at the quite spot the product looks set to continue for the rest of today and in that of the first part of the weekend. but not without its hazards and at the high pressure keeps things settled across central and southern parts of the british isles, we have a weak front bringing in a bit more cloud

to offer the prospect of a spot of rain in northern ireland and southern scotland. even further south, enough cloud for there to be the odd spot of drizzle put showers and brightness in the north—east of scotla nd and brightness in the north—east of scotland come rain returning to the west later on. the best sunshine in the north—east of wales and north—east england. a glorious start in parts of north yorkshire. 0vernight, some of the gaps will fill in and we end up with a com plete fill in and we end up with a complete shield of cloud the rain moving from the northern isles and we end up for the most part dry and frost free. that is how we start the weekend, not a great deal changes until sunday. then it turns really quite wet and windy and that is the pattern as we move to next week.

you‘re watching bbc newsroom live. it‘s 11am and these are the main stories this morning. chinese authorities confirm the coronavirus deathtoll has climbed to 26 people and there are more than 800 confirmed infections worldwide. in the uk, 14 people have been tested for the virus with five testing negative and an incident team has been set up in scotland to deal with the threat. a coroner has said that the death of a baby at a hospital in kent in 2017 was "wholly avoidable". ‘a denial ofjustice‘ — the foreign secretary criticises the us for failing to extradite anne sacoolas. the dunn family says they‘ll fight.