that is in the last five years. lawyers and professionals in the field, who say that courts are regularly granting child contact — often unsupervised — to perpetrators of abuse, including in some cases those with criminal convictions, for offences as serious hello. as child sex abuse, rape, it's tuesday, it's ten o'clock, serious violence and even murder. i'm victoria derbyshire and we're live from new broadcasting house. after our investigation, in today's exclusive story, a mum whose ex—partner the issue was raised in parliament, is a convicted child rapist has told and within days the government this programme she fears for her daughters' safety announced a review of the family justice system to look after a family court said he should at whether the courts be allowed to have overnight are failing to protect children and victims of abuse. access every two weeks. and what do we know about how the government's it's not a question review has progressed ? of if he will do it again. it's a question of it was only meant to last for three who he will do it to. will it be my children months? it was announced as a or will it be someone else? three—month review, we eight months on and still waiting. you think there's a possibility he could rape your daughters? his daughters? yes. the ministry ofjustice has told us today that it has spoken to more meanwhile the government's told us its review — launched after our family courts investigation last year — has so far spoken to 1,000 than 1,200 people as parts of its evidence gathering — victims of domestic abuse. of which around a 1,000 are victims of domestic abuse who have experiences of the family courts. we'll introduce the healthy we've also seen the review‘s interim

22—year—old who's considering having report, which doesn't include a lot of detail, an operation which might mean but makes clear that victims are telling them that they find she can wait until she's much older the court system can be to have a baby and control re—traumatising and used by perpetrators when she reaches the menopause — to continue their abuse — and that there are concerns despite concerns about its safety. that the courts are prioritising contact with both parents over i'm 22. the welfare and safety of the child. i'm not even 23. i'm definitely not wanting to pop out babies anytime soon. but it's kind of the option to be able to focus on my career without the worry of the biological clock ticking. some of my older friends are already the ministry ofjustice told us it plans to publish massively worrying about that. its report this spring. and we'll bring you the first uk interview with the couple whose it said it was rated took the time proposal has been viewed online more to look at this serious issue carefully. —— it was right it took than 50 million times. the time. but for many victims, like suzie, they are waiting to see if there will be any real change and they are desperate to see some. and we can talk about what should happen next with the family court review with labour mp louise haigh, who is shadow policing and crime minister. what do you think of suzie's case? you never fail to be you neverfail to be shocked by exa m ples you neverfail to be shocked by examples like that, they are tragic

in exactly how common they really honestly, the reaction has been are. it is not uncommon for women to nothing but wonderful. the fact that it made it across the globe to india be told that they will have to have where i emigrated from when i was their children taken away from them young, and people from my elementary school who i have not really kept in by social services if they maintain contact with the abusive father, for touch with saw it and reconnected, them to go through the family court that has been pretty fantastic. system and be told that, actually, 110w system and be told that, actually, now you have to have. contact with the father and the children. they are ina hi, welcome to the programme. the father and the children. they are in a kafkaesque situation where they are told by one side of the we're live until 11 this morning. state that they are not to be we want to know the story of how you proposed, anywhere near the father of their or were proposed to. children and penned by another that anything as impressive they are absolutely obliged to insist on contact. they are put in as a disney film?! use the hashtag #victorialive, email victoria@bbc.co.uk, text 61124 — it'll cost an impossible situation. when i looked at that case i half wondered if it was another woman who has come the standard network rate. to see me he was in —— a similar are exclusive story about family situation. the father of her children was on the six offenders court injust a are exclusive story about family court in just a moment. are exclusive story about family court injust a moment. if are exclusive story about family court in just a moment. if you are exclusive story about family court injust a moment. if you have register because he had raped had a similar experience to "suzie", children. she had spent £200,000 of get in touch. i know you know there her own money in defending access to are restrictions around family court her own money in defending access to her children, she is the family

cases. court time and time again to first, annita mcveigh has the news. perpetuate abuse against his the details of how the uk's immigration system is likely previous family and own children. to work after brexit have just been published. this review, launched after a family the government's official advisers have called for a reduction in the minimum salary level court specialist yet, what you want for skilled migrants by more to come out of it? can i firstly say, that review came about because than £4,000. the migration advisory committee of extensive campaigning in is also recommending a points based system for workers parliament but also because of the report at the inquiry that you dig without a job offer. yourselves and the voices of the women that you amplify to this a woman whose ex—partner programme, it would not have is a convicted child rapist has told happened without the campaigning you this programme she fears for her daughters' safety have done, that is why i think the after a family court said he should proposal to axe this show which be allowed to have overnight access every two weeks. really ha rm proposal to axe this show which really harm much is this campaign that the campaigns that you have it comes as the government has told us its review highlighted over the years, i think into whether the family courts it isa are ordering unsafe child contact highlighted over the years, i think with parents with criminal it is a shameful proposal by the conviction has spoken to 1,000 bbc. secondly, i met with the victims of domestic abuse. minister last week to talk about "suzie" — whose name we've changed — has been telling us progress of the review, i am really about her experience. pleased to see it is progressing, i i'm terrified every single was worried it might for by the time they go there. terrified. wayside because of the election, but it is going forward and they are what do you fear could happen? taking the time to review it. as people who are convicted of the kind emma said, they have reached the of offences he's been convicted of, same conclusions that women who have

rapists who have a proven track contacted you have told us over many months and years, the welfare of record of doing it, notjust once, children is not privatised over contact with both parents and that he's going to do it again. assumption that contact with both pa rents assumption that contact with both parents should be paramount is security chiefs are expected risking the lives of children and to decide today whether the chinese firm huawei can help to develop women, mostly women but in some the uk's sg telecoms network. 00:04:22,249 --> 2147483051:38:55,840 borisjohnson is chairing a meeting 2147483051:38:55,840 --> 4294966103:13:29,430 of the national security cases male victims of domestic abuse, are allowed to be traumatised time and time again by the family courts. we need to see legislative changes, survivors better protected, welfare of the child absolutely paramount, i would like to see contact with both parents removed as a presumption in all cases of domestic abuse. theresa on e-mail say thank you for giving such an amazing job, you are giving so many the courage to fight back. karen says ic so many of these stories that often lead to tragic consequences for the children. my head hurts, whereas the protection? grey streets i thought the point of family courts was to protect

children, not deliberately put them in way. —— grace says on twitter. we are expecting this review to report in the spring, we will bring the news of it to our audience. an anonymous fever says i have myself been a victim of coercive control, domestic abuse and the family courts. my abuser and rapist was given access to my children and has since taken full custody of my eldest son, who i have not seen now. and to months. i suffered 15 years of domestic abuse and was let down by every service where, five yesterday after leaving, i am at my most vulnerable and unprotected are my children are still ensuring there abuse, the family courts have left me and thousands of other women in this horrendous and hopeless situation. that review is needed. thank you very much, louise haigh,

for coming on the programme, and thank you for your support. and our actionline website is bbc.co.uk/actionline. if you need help there are loads of organisations listed there who can do that. if you want to get in touch, you know you are very welcome. details are on screen. coming up later in the programme: the new procedure which helps healthy women protect their fertility for longer — we'll hear from a woman who's paid thousands of pounds for the surgery, but how effective or even safe is it? and the disney proposal that's gone viral — we'll speak to the american couple involved in this picture perfect engagement, in their first british interview. the details of how the uk's immigration system could work after brexit have been published in the past half an hour.

our home affairs correspondent danny shaw is at westminster. what are the key points? the key points are that the government needs to get a move on and make some decisions about this, that is what the migration advisory committee, government's official advisers on migration, had said. there is not much time, we leave the eu on friday under new immigration system, the government once in place early next year. the key decision is about a salary threshold. at the moment, if you are coming to the uk from outside the eu, and you are a skilled worker, you have to have a chap that pays £30,000 a year, in most cases. —— had to have a job that pays. most businesses are very worried that if that scheme is extended to include eu workers, businesses will suffer, you will not be able to get the number of

recruits. the migration advisory committee is suggesting cutting the salary threshold from £30,000 to 25,600 is, a cut of more than £11000. they say that would ensure there is no undercutting that it would enable enough staff to be recruited for the nhs and teaching and so on. i would be exceptions for public services and younger people, there would be a lower requirement for them. —— there would be exceptions for public services. the result of the question ofa services. the result of the question of a points—based system which the government wants to introduce, whereby if you want to come, you have to accumulate points according to age, skill, experience and qualifications. the migration advisory committee says that should apply only to people who do not have apply only to people who do not have a job offer but says it is very difficult to see how previous point fa ke syste ms difficult to see how previous point fake systems have worked in the uk, we have fun at the moment. —— points—based systems. they are more

sketchy about her battered work in future. are you able to tell the audience, just this mean immigration levels will go up or down? the migration advisory committee says that with all these changes, if they are adopted we would see lower immigration, lower population growth, less pressure on schools, nhs and housing and improved public finances and productivity, but small differences, they are saying. there isa differences, they are saying. there is a downside, there would be increased pressure on social care and there is a real concern that the social care sector is not recruiting enough people but the advisers here are saying that it's nothing to do with migration, that is to do with the rates of pay not being competitive enough in the social ca re competitive enough in the social care sector, a problem that has to be addressed differently, not necessarily through migration. thank you, danny shaw, really interesting.

0ur you, danny shaw, really interesting. our home affairs corresponded with the latest details on the uk immigration system after brexit, brexit day is on friday. the next clip we're going to show you has been watched more than a0 million times on twitter and more than six million times on youtube since it was uploaded on the ninth of january. high school sweethearts filmmaker lee loechler and trainee doctor sthuthi david have been together for more than a decade. she loves disney, so he planned a pretty different proposal. laughter

applause it's not every day you get to propose to your high school sweetheart, so i just want to take my time. savour this moment. oh, my god!

how lovely. i have some lovely m essa 9 es how lovely. i have some lovely messages from you about how you were proposed to or how you proposed. i've been speaking to lee loechler and sthuthi david in their first uk interview. lee told me what first gave him the idea. just on a whim one day i got a copy of sleeping beauty and i was scrolling through it and sure enough, prince philip comes and he kisses the princess and she wakes up. andi kisses the princess and she wakes up. and i was very shocked to discover there wasn't a lot of movement in the scene, it was mostly static and it got me thinking. maybe ididn't static and it got me thinking. maybe i didn't have to be an animator to pull this off, i needed to find the right illustrator who could draw us static. and maybe just

right illustrator who could draw us static. and maybejust using my knowledge of effects i could bring that movement to it to help sell it. so you found it illustrator, created effectively, reworked a masterpiece, then what? man! iwas effectively, reworked a masterpiece, then what? man! i was going to be content then what? man! i was going to be co nte nt to then what? man! i was going to be content to show this to her in the comfort of one of our apartments and i was pretty proud of this idea, the way of integrating this into her favourite film and i pitch the idea toa favourite film and i pitch the idea to a friend of mine and i thought he was going to be impressed and instead he said, you idiot! have you never met a girl? and i was like what? nobody wants to be proposed to in their pyjamas. you've got to embrace the spectacle, it should be someplace beautiful, herfriends and family should be there and he opened my eyes to a slightly more grandiose application of what i had been planning. you roped in friends and family, you saw in the clip, you have got them in the cinema, you

knew nothing about this? when you we re knew nothing about this? when you were watching this, did you think, my god, the prince looks likely? yes, basically, the film had played from beginning to win the video started rolling. i had no idea and it wasn't really, even when the lookalike prince came on screen i was extremely confused about what was extremely confused about what was happening and i said why does he look like you? and it wasn't honestly until the ring, i thought, someone honestly until the ring, i thought, someone is going to propose to wait, ithink someone is going to propose to wait, i think i'm getting proposed too! how are you feeling in that moment? i think shock was initially, you know, what was happening and it was a bit of cognitive dissonance. but i think as everything sank in, just pure joy and happiness. we had talked about getting engaged about

six months prior so it was finally happening and it was such a perfect scene. overwhelming joy. there were so many lovely moments. but when you kind of apologise to all the people in the cinema and the lights went up and you realised it was your friends and you realised it was your friends and family, just such a wonderful moment. listen. you are talking to us moment. listen. you are talking to us from virginia. you are in la, lee. you see each other once every four have been six weeks, 3000 miles apart. tell me, when you get married, are you going to be living together? yes! we hope so! how are you going to make it work and when is the wedding? we haven't picked a date yet. we are thinking sometime in 2021. long distance, based on my medical training. i in 2021. long distance, based on my medicaltraining. lam in 2021. long distance, based on my medical training. i am going to finish my training in about a year.

and hopefully match a fellowship on the west coast. i think that is the timeline we are looking at. how do you feel about the fact this is one of the most watched clips on twitter, millions of people are watching it on youtube.|j twitter, millions of people are watching it on youtube. i am still in shock. i also which lee had given me some heads up so i could have one make up. no, honestly, the reaction has been nothing but wonderful. the fa ct has been nothing but wonderful. the fact that it made it across the globe to india, where i emigrated from when i was young, people from my elementary school and family members who! my elementary school and family members who i haven't really kept in touch with, they came and reconnected, it's been pretty fantastic. i mean, my dad reconnected with his classmates that he grew up in college. it's been an amazing experience. amazing ripple effect. i still can't believe it. lee, what about the reaction and the numbers of views? even less

important to me the number of years, the different people from different countries all over the world who reached out through direct messages and send their love to us from every country you can imagine and sometimes in languages i didn't know existed! it's just so surreal and it underlines something that i always thought, deep down. we are all not as different as we might think. we all value love. you know, we are all tired of this endlessly negative news cycle. we are excited for the prospect of a world where love dominates. absolutely. who doesn't love a love story, including a british audience so we are really grateful you have chosen to speak to us grateful you have chosen to speak to us first. we wish you all the best and we hope you live happily ever after. thank you both. thank you.

thank you britton. he isa he is a keeper, isn't he? claire on e—mail says i proposed to my now husband on the 29th of february 2016 outside the globe theatre in stratford and backward summer shakespeare. he said yes. after asking me ten plus times and me saying no. because it was my second marriage and wanted everything different on the 29th of february is certainly different. katie says my husband proposed me while scuba—diving in thailand, we were deep under the ocean and he tapped me on the shoulder and asked me a note with the words would you marry me. i couldn't speak so i gave him a thumbs up. we've been happily married for ten years. nicolette says my husband proposed to meet randomly on a monday night on waterloo bridge after work. we were crossing it on his scooter in rush hour. the engine seemed to be cutting out. we had to stop literally on the middle of the bridge. while i stood there getting annoyed as he bent down to look at the engine he turned round on one knee with a ring. i had to take my

hell naw and massive gloves off to get the ring on, loads of people must seen us notjust us but i honestly felt like there was no one else there. thank you so much for those. i love those, keep them coming in. would you have a part of your ovary tissue cut out and frozen to delay the menopause, or help you get pregnant later on in life? that's a medical procedure being offered for £6,000 plus at a private birmingham hospital. surgeons say it offers the chance for women to have more control over their fertility and when they reach the menopause, but there are concerns about how effective or even safe it is, with one consultant gynecologist telling us exclusively she fears the procedure could increase the risk of diseases such as breast and uterine cancer. before we hearfrom her, we sent today programme reporter charlotte hayward to meet the founder of the procedure who is so keen on it, he wants his 22—year—old daughter to have it done, too.

for around £6,000, women are being offered a new procedure to help either combat unwanted signs of menopause or increase their chances of having a baby in later life. it's called ovarian grafting and it involves cutting out and freezing tissue and then storing it for up to ten years. i've come to meet professor simon fishel and his 22—year—old daughter, savannah. she's interested in preserving some of her ovarian tissue and i wanted to find out why. preserving fertility. i'm 22. i'm not even 23. i'm definitely not wanting to pop out babies anytime soon. but it's kind of the option to be able to focus on my career without the worry of the biological clock ticking. some of my older friends are already massively worrying about that. but another thing, the really big thing for me is, as i mentioned, i've seen menopausal problems manifest themselves in family members, for instance.

i mean, dad knows it better than me, but osteoporosis, that kind of thing. so in terms of a preventative health measure for that, that's really how i see it having a really positive major impact. the younger you do it, the more eggs you've got, the more hormone packed that ovary, the benefit you can get later in life. and are you grateful for that kind of advice or does that panic you slightly? it's kind of a positive thing for me. so i'm gratefulfor it, because if i were to do the procedure now, i would have all these eggs inside that i'm not using right now and then when i do want them one day there's loads of them there. this operation has only been completed on nine women so far, the majority of which wanted to prevent early menopause. but there's little research at the moment on how long that effect will last. so we've come down to sort of have a sneak peak at the theatre. this is why we're dressed like this in the sterile environment.

yeah. you all right? so we're going to go and ask lots of questions. sweet. it is a keyhole surgery. and the meaning of that is we don't do a big something. a little bit small cut in your belly button and then get the camera inside and then two holes on the side each about three millimetre in size. and then we're using these instruments to be able to take the soft tissues from the ovary. the surgeon, mr afifi, would perform the keyhole surgery using a camera inside the body, which then projects onto a tv. the white blob here is the ovary and it's a bit of that that is cut off and frozen. if savannah wanted that section of the ovary put back inside her to help her have a child, it would be reinserted near her fallopian tube. if it was to slow down the menopause, it can go anywhere. usually under the armpit. critics say there needs to be a lot more research done on the potential benefits of this operation before

women could consider it as an alternative to either hormone replacement therapy or other fertility treatments. i wanted to sit down with savannah's father, the man behind the science, to talk about some of my concerns. if we're going to offer well women the option of preserving hormones for their menopausal phase, preserving fertility through the ovarian tissue, then we have to take that step at some stage. and i think where we are today, there is enough information to say it's safe enough to do so. so that's women that will be paying for this treatment. how do you feel about that ethically? we want preventative medical health options. everybody wants to drive to that. but if we're going to offer something that's new then the nhs isn't really interested because it's new. i don't think it's any of our real concerns here is the financial aspect, except that unfortunately people have to pay for it.

if we could have this paid for and we weren't making a penny out of it, it's that scientific dream that we are interested in. it does sound quite experimental. do you think that's fair on women that are quite vulnerable? so, it's experimental with a group of patients we want it to benefit for, but in its own element, each element of it is not experimental now. despite this procedure not offering any guarantees, savannah thinks it's still a good back—up to have. one thing i'm definitely not focused on right now is having kids. and to me, that is the point because i'm focused on... i love myjob and other things and there's so much i want to do before, so i don't want in the back of my mind — "but if i do want kids, got to get it done now. "got to get a ring on my finger." i don't want that thought process at all. so that's the idea.

we can talk now to yousri afifi, surgeon and chief medical officer at profam who you saw carrying out the surgery in that film. sara matthews, a consultant gynaecologist at the portland hospital in london, who doesn't agree with this treatment. and dixie—louise dexter, who has had the procedure to prevent the menopause after having a hysterectomy due to the pain of endometriosis. sara, what do you think of the procedure? i think it's a commercial operation set up to exploit the vulnerability of young women that are worried about their fertility. and the menopause. i think there are very well established alternatives that work very well. and are more flexible and adaptable in any situation and are safer. and ijust worry that the whole ethos of the company and what they are offering

just doesn't offer proof of principle because there is a lack of scientific research to back up what they are claiming in terms of how long the graft can live for, work for, risks that happen as the result of putting the tissue back. number of putting the tissue back. number of points there. let's put them straight to you. let's deal with the first one. your trading on women ‘s, you are exploiting women ‘s insecurities? that's absolutely not true. first, sara knows because she was involved in offering the treatment of cancer patients, this treatment of cancer patients, this treatment has been around for more than 15 years. many offered for those receiving chemotherapy and we ta ke those receiving chemotherapy and we take the whole ovary and freeze it and when they survive the cancer, we put the tissue back. how many of these particular operations where you just take a third of one of the two ovaries, the outer layer of the

ovary which contains follicles with eggs, you cut it into tiny pieces, you freeze it, then you grafted back m, you freeze it, then you grafted back in, how many of those procedures 11 patients. 11? are those women experiments, effectively? no, we have we had patients who have disease, benign or malignant, we have over 5000 patients having the ovaries taken out. is that a fair point, the cancer patients who have had this done. they are a completely different group of patients with com pletely different group of patients with completely different problems. and if you consider that the majority of ovarian tissue freezing now is for prepubertal girls who have no other option in terms of how to preserve their ovarian activity, it's not comparable. because they are on the miracle side of the newspaper article. this is different. these are healthy women. and there is a

very good, very well proven alternative way for them to preserve their fertility that involves less money and less risk. and that's really the bottom line. let me go through these points, one by one. first, she's talking about cancer patients, they are vulnerable group of patients who have less options, she has no doubt the procedure itself is effectively providing them a solution for fertility. two months ago there was a very systemic review of all evidence about the harmonic restoration following ovarian tissue transplants which give very positive outlooks for the outcomes following transplantation. talking about the cost. the egg freezing which patients use for fertility, the women normally are advised to have 2-3 women normally are advised to have 2—3 cycles of ivf treatment women normally are advised to have 2-3 cycles of ivf treatment i'm sorry, that's not true. if the woman is young enough we aim for between 12 and 15 x. and you should be able

to achieve that without any difficulty in one treatment cycle. let me bring in dixie, you've had this private procedure. and i explained the reasons why. you had endometriosis. to help aid that. you had a hysterectomy. and then he went for this because she wanted to delay the menopause because you're in your early 30s. exactly right. i struggled with endometriosis for over ten years, it affected every aspect of my life, everything from my relationships, my health, mental well—being, my relationships, my health, mental well— being, who i my relationships, my health, mental well—being, who i was as a person. i was existing, not living so i opted for a hysterectomy which i know it wasn't a cure for endometriosis but the ovarian grafting was offered alongside that. and part of my treatment prior to hysterectomy, i'd beenin treatment prior to hysterectomy, i'd been in chemical menopause twice, ovarian grafting was a lifeline for me. it's given me my quality of life back, i'm a completely different person. explain how your life is different. i'm pain free. happy. my

mental well—being different. i'm pain free. happy. my mental well— being is so different. i'm pain free. happy. my mental well—being is so much better. i feel that now for the first time ever, i'm living and not existing. and i know what we are talking about, my reasons are different but for me, and anybody out there who's beenin for me, and anybody out there who's been in my situation, i could recommend this wholeheartedly and if you had the opportunity to do this, to do it, i would choose this option over and over to do it, i would choose this option overand overagain, if to do it, i would choose this option over and over again, if i to do it, i would choose this option overand overagain, if i had another day feeling how well i do now. let me come back to you, sara. you said at the beginning its exploiting young women ‘s insecurities when it comes to fertility. no one is forcing them to do this. no one is forcing them to find £6,000. no. butl do this. no one is forcing them to find £6,000. no. but i do think that a lot of women, the women who do do it probably never use the tissue. that there will be better, safer ways to achieve what they want to achieve. certainly, in terms of menopause treatment, take, for example, a lady who is 30, puts the

tissue away, says i am going to be proactive, i want the natural menopause replacement, sounds great to me, cutting—edge, fabulous. she's 45, starts to develop hot flushes. her hormone levels suggest she's got another five years of ovary function to go. when do you put the tissue back? do you treat your symptoms at 45 or do you put her on hr tree and try and coax her along to the menopause so you have undone what you started to do in the first place? try and avoid hormones? then, you put the graft back. you potentially then at some point after that have graft failure and are going through the menopause twice which sounds horrific. all for what? and in between times, you've reintroduced a biological tissue unnecessarily because there are several alternatives, biological tissue may increase the risk of breast, ovary, uterine cancer, the ovary is not a perfect organ. it has

multiple problems associated with its function which is where myjob comes in. i want to get you to respond briefly. yes, first of all the notion that hrt is a safer option, i don't think she believes in that, she knows and she cancels her patients you don't have to speak on behalf of her, talk from your own point of view. we know hrt carries risk as well of breast cancer, clotting and of strokes and this is why we are not advising patients to use routinely hrt. the natural hormone production is mimicking the natural ovary and production of regular and psychic reduction which no doubt would be much safer than hrt itself. answering the questions regarding most of the patients will not have the tissue back. for egg freezing i ee, the tissue back. for egg freezing i many the tissue back. for egg freezing i agree, many patients having egg freezing opt not to have expat because they are not interested in fertility but in case of tissue freezing if you're not using it, you

can use it for menopause. and one point, osteoporosis information and you see five years following the menopause, 20% of bone mass is lost because of the effect of the menopause. which means one into women the age of 50 have the risk of fractures, the risk for health and well—being. fractures, the risk for health and well-being. i feel like we are alarming people unnecessarily. i'm going to posit if i may stop thank you all very much for coming in. there's growing evidence of the link between indoor air pollution and childhood health problems like asthma, conjunctivitis, and eczema. a report out today highlights sources of household air pollution — like mould and using wood burning stoves, but also products like aerosol sprays — including things like air fresheners and deodorants — cleaning products and candles. the royal college of paediatrics and child health and the royal college of physicians want local authorities to have the power to require improvements in homes and schools where air quality fails to meet the minimum standards.

let's talk to shazia ali—webber — a mum of three boys who is part of the campaign group air team, as well as katie millett and her five—year—old 0scar, who has asthma, and professorjonathan grigg, professor of paediatric respiratory and environmental medicine, who has co—chaired the group which carried out the research. welcome to all of you. right, let me start with you katie, and oscar, hello, and welcome to the programme. five years old, darling, you can sit down, it's ok. diagnosed with asthma. you have since made changes to your home, what have you done? we have got rid of things like cleaning products, harsh cleaning products, we make sure we ventilate, we have fresh air blowing through the house. we try and try our laundry where possible outside in the fresh air. we've tried to limit the amount of polluta nts we've tried to limit the amount of pollutants we put into our house.

and yet your three—year—old was diagnosed with asthma on monday. he was indeed. the fact you've tried to limit those things potentially may not be having any effect? it's a great point. i think you have to look at it more broadly. when we think and talk about things like asthma and allergies you've got to think about inflammation. anything that's on our environment that could be making inflammation worse and leading to these issues, we've got to tackle that and see if we can lessen them and indoor air pollution is 100% something we have to look at. you're involved in this area tea m at. you're involved in this area team group which is a parent campaign, primarily focused on outdoor air pollution so what do you make of this report? it's interesting and vital. i'm part of the group that's been campaigning on air pollution outdoor air pollution since 2015, established campaigners. most of whom are parents. and we know very well that diesel fumes in particular, are a cause of air

pollution which affects the lungs and other conditions. suddenly, we are told that there are risks in the home that we should be aware of it. that's vital information for anyone concerned about their children 's health. jonathan, tell us how you came to these conclusions, but the report involved? what we did was systematically look at literature relating to indoor air pollution and children 's health, that was the focus. we found effects, as you say, on freezing, conjunctivitis, skin effects. bubbly this is the tip of the iceberg, the amount of research out there is relatively small compared to the outdoor air pollution research. you looked at what is called a systematic review of 221 studies out there and we've got some examples of household products here. i wonder if you can for the audience tell us what you say the issues potentially might be with these kind of products. you got

a range of products. some of them cleaning products. these produce polygon organic compounds. where we found there is a significant relationship between these and asthma severity. — — relationship between these and asthma severity. —— these produce volatile organic compounds. it's difficult to isolate which one is, this is a cleaning product. this is an airfreshener. this is a cleaning product. this is an air freshener. these are aerosol compounds, chemicals in the air. not only may they have effects on their own but they interact in a very complex way, including interacting with outdoor air pollution which is coming in. it's immensely complicated. despite the complexity we see the signal for health effects in children. you are saying, are you, these volatile organic compounds which sounds terrifying but if the chemicals in these mundane domestic products, are linked to freezing, conjunctivitis,

asthma, eczema? absolutely. there are effects and of course, but this report says, we shouldn't ban these, we need to use them to clean our houses and that is also very important. but to be aware of the potential effects and mitigate the effects, for example, if you are using a cleaner, use the minimum amount necessary. try do not mix cleaners, that will increase the chances of these interactions. wipe the surface afterwards. so the residue is not there. they are simple things one can do, as as well as ventilating, the other part of the report, adequate ventilation to re move the report, adequate ventilation to remove these. does it make you think differently when you hear this? yes, there are more eco friendly products of cleaning products to use. but they are expensive. you can get own brand supermarket bleach for example, i mean it's cheap as chips. the organic stuff or whatever you call it, it's really not. but that's

where we need more information, parents are primarily concerned about their children 's health, your mainjob is to make sure you have strong, healthy children and you give them broccoli and feed them all the things you're supposed to do, you take them out to parks, keep them active. suddenly, you find some of the things you are using to keep your house clean which you think helps is damaging your children 's health so we need for more information. need definitive conclusions so that parents can make choices that are better for the children. i agree. ithink choices that are better for the children. iagree. ithink having knowledge, giving information is impairmentand knowledge, giving information is impairment and people can make their own decisions about what they do in their own environment. ok. thank you all very much. thank you for your patience. we really appreciated. thank you. thank you for all your messages. i want to read this, someone to do with the family courts, philflairfrom domestic abuse with my children and vintage are reviewed, during the time my primary school—age daughter disclosed sexual abuse. he had raped me so many times. the family court

ordered him unsupervised contact, he is asking for shared parenting. my daughter is scared of him and are saying that she doesn't want to see him. we have so many stories from you which of course we will continue to follow up. thank you so much for your company. bbc newsroom live is coming up next. thank you for your company today. have a good day. good morning. ithink good morning. i think some of us got a little excited this morning with snowfall and it settled over some of the higher ground of scotland, northern ireland, north—west england, wales. some snow showers at the moment even down to lower levels, some sleet, some help mixed m, levels, some sleet, some help mixed in, the sham is continuing to feed into north—western areas. further east, start with sunshine. temperatures on the thermometer roundabout for 8 degrees. there is a rather brisk westerly wind,

especially across the south. that will make it feel much colder than those temperatures suggest. these are the fields like temperatures, if you are out and about, it will feel like freezing in central areas of scotland. as we go through this evening, further showers moving on, they could be wintry, clear skies, they could be wintry, clear skies, the temperature dropping away, the risk of ice first thing tomorrow. some bright weather, sunshine to start, ploughed increasing from the west, some rain gradually moving into scotland, again with that, there will be snow on higher ground. goodbye for now. you're watching bbc newsroom live —

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