tv Beyond 100 Days BBC News January 30, 2020 7:00pm-8:02pm GMT
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this is beyond 100 days. as the coronavirus continues to spread, the world health organization meets for the third time to decide whether to declare the outbreak a global health emergency. meanwhile, the united states has just announced the first person—to—person transfer of the virus. uk families rush to wuhan airport hoping to get a seat on a government plane that's due to take off in 2a hours‘ time. american scientists tell the bbc they could have a vaccine ready to fight the coronavirus by the end of the year and it might be necessary.
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they do not respect borders, so this virus could be on our doorstep very quickly. also on the programme: after endless nights in westminster and countless trips to brussels, brexit day is finally upon us. as the uk prepares to coundown to the exit tomorrow night, we'll try and predict what the future might hold for britain as it goes it alone. and who knows, brexit might coincide with donald trump's acquittal in the senate. his impeachment trial is nearing an end, with no sign republicans are pursuaded by the democrats' call for witnesses. hello, and welcome. i'm katty kay in london, with christian fraser. tomorrow, the uk is set to leave the european union, but today it is lending a helping hand to europeans stuck in wuhan. a british government plane that is set to take off in the next few hours evacuating uk nationals will also have a number of eu nationals on board,
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including 20 spaniards. the evacuation flight will have military medics on board and will land at raf brize norton in oxfordshire. passengers will then be taken straight to an nhs facility, where they will be put in quarantine for m days. jacob wilson is an american taking british families to the airport in wuhan, to make sure they make the flight. by coincidence, he's helping out natalie francis, who we spoke to on yesterday's show. remember, she was refusing to leave unless her three—year—old son was allowed to go with her. well, they are now leaving together. i'm just at the gate of the community, and i wasjust given a last—minute notice that one of the british citizens and her three—year—old son is going to be able to make it to the flight. so, i wasjust coming from the airport directly to pick them up at their community, and the cut—off time was supposed to be around 1am. but we're running a little
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bit late but i think we will be able to make to make it there in time, past the toll gate and into the departure hall for them. this is terry's wife and the son and it's a bit dark so i don't if you can see them, but they are in the car right now. trying to stay warm, it's pretty cold outside. and we are in a race against time to get to the airport. i'm natalie, and this isjamie. say hello, jamie. hello! so, we just got the call like ten minutes ago. well, we first got a call about a few hours ago. but they could give no guarantees and if we were denied boarding, they could not give us any help in getting back into the city. and we did not want to get stranded in the middle of the countryside at like 3am with no food, no supplies and no way to anywhere safe.
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just too dangerous. but they called us about 20 minutes ago and said that we need to get to the meeting point as soon as possible because there is a good guarantee that they will allow jamie on the plane. and our good family friend jake came and got us straightaway. families are having even more of a difficult time the children. we still think that it's best to get jamie out of the city. but it's still breaking up our family and it is going to really, really hard, especially once jamie realises what is actually happening. we're on our way to the airport, and we hope to be flying shortly. but information is still a bit underground.
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but they do seem to be proactive in getting it to us as soon as they can. good luck to them because she was so desperate that she was going to leave choosing to be without her son. recall he had pneumonia last year so he was particularly at risk, they felt. amazing chemist of the rotor waste because the trouble they are having to get out. if you don't have the right paperwork, you don't get to the airport and there is that good samaritan, an american who could leave. but is helping people get out. american scientists have told the bbc they could have a vaccine for the new coronavirus ready before the end of the year. is that fast enough, given how quickly the virus is spreading? look at this data map from johns hopkins university in the us. at the top right, you can see more than 8000 people have been infected. that's a 30% jump from yesterday. and on the top left, that's the number of deaths, 170, also up by 30%
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from yesterday. we are on day 21, and unfortunately, as we wake up this morning, we're at over 6000 confirmed cases. they may be more than 10,000 miles away from the centre of the outbreak, but these scientists are in emergency mode. do we know what the mortality rate is? they're working day and night to come up with a vaccine that could save lives in china and beyond. scientists were able to spring into action within just a couple of days of the new virus being identified after china posted details of the virus‘s genetic code online. we received the sequence from the chinese government. we worked overnight, and the next day, we had designed a vaccine. we immediately put that vaccine into manufacture, which is the stage that it's currently in, and we hope that that
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will be entering into human clinical trials by early summer. that timeline is absolutely unprecedented in vaccine development. scientists here are already developing a vaccine for another coronavirus called middle east respiratory syndrome. they're using the same dna technology for this new virus from china, too. swirling around in these fermenters is a very musty—smelling solution of bacteria from which the main ingredient for this vaccine, a string of dna which it's hoped will trigger a strong immune response against this virus, will be extracted. traditionally, this process can take months. but here, using these new technologies, it's been taking scientists days. the work here and in two other research facilities in the us and australia is being funded by an organisation called cepi. it's a coalition of governments and philanthropic organisations that invest in developing new vaccines for emerging diseases as quickly as
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possible. doing this is exciting work, but this is a very dangerous time. this is a real viral threat, and we know these viruses do not respect borders so this virus could be on our doorstep very quickly. no—one knows how the outbreak in china is going to unfold and whether a vaccine will be ready in time. it's still very early days for the vaccine being developed here, but this crucial work to help save lives is under way. tulip mazumdar, bbc news, san diego. meanwhile, in the us today, american officials confirmed a case of coronavirus in chicago of the first human to human transfer on us soil. senatorjoe lieberman sits on the bipartisan commission on biodefense. he joins us now from new york.
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the world health organisation has said that several countries around the world are simply not ready for the world are simply not ready for the coronavirus. do you think the us is ready? well, we are not as ready as we should be, that is clear. 0ur bipartisan commission has been studying this. we called for a national bio defence strategy and the trump administration issued a good one in 2018. but it has not been implement it rapidly enough. and i think the painful lesson from all this is clear from the news he reported so far, which is the coronavirus is spreading rapidly. 30% increase in infections and this just in one day. and yet they work ona just in one day. and yet they work on a vaccine if lucky may produce an effective vaccine by the end of the year. so i think to me the real lesson is to focus on this between crises. really to make it a national priority, a global priority to
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develop what i would call a universal antiviral vaccine so we are ready the next time this happens and it surely will. you've spent a lot of time since leaving the senate working on the potential threat of bio—terrorism. are there parallels between treating something like this global epidemic and fighting bio—terrorism? are there systems in place that are fairly similar in both cases? there are indeed. our commission defines bio defence as getting better prepared to detect and respond to both a biological terrorist attack and an infectious disease epidemic such as the one 110w. disease epidemic such as the one now. what we need is quite similar, we need good diagnostics and surveillance to figure out whether an epidemic ora surveillance to figure out whether an epidemic or a terrorist attack is happening. we need to have vaccines and medical countermeasures
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available which are not really now. we need to prepare our public health syste m we need to prepare our public health system for the surge in patients that in the worst—case scenario will come in. and in both cases, and of course there even if the possibility of them combining in that a terrorist group could itself cultivate a pathogen which would become an infectious disease epidemic. i may come of that is a nightmare. i think donald trump has put together a team of 12 people who are going to oversee the response. but many people have always concerns about his team in the white house. there was a national security council official that was in charge of leading responses to pandemics but that person was sacked byjohn bolton back in 2018 so there is no one who has oversight in the white house. does that concern you? one who has oversight in the white house. does that concern you ?m does. the first
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recommendation of the report that we first issued in 2015 on this overall subject of bio defence was to localise leadership administration of the bow defence after of the us government in a person. we represented the vice president because we thought his office would oversee the government. there are a lot of different pieces of the us government that are working on this so again i'm glad president trump appointed this council but really what we need is a permanent bio defence counsel which is government wide that is working on this between crises. so the next time it happens, we are ready as i fear we and the rest of the world are not now. stay with us because he wa nt to are not now. stay with us because he want to ask you about the next story, too. the impeachment trial of donald trump is a roller coaster of emotions for american senators. yesterday, democrats thought they were inching closer to forcing
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the trial to hear from witnesses. today, republicans feel the political wind is in their favour, even suggesting that the whole trial could be wrapped up, without witnesses, by friday. good job we are here in london then. during the course of their arguments, the president's lawyers have issued a pretty remarkable new defence. here's alan dershowitz. and if a president does something which he believes will help him get elected in the public interest, that cannot be the kind of quid pro quo that results in impeachment. to which the democrats' lead prosecutor, congressman adam schiff, had this to say. we've witnessed over the course of the last few days and the long day today a remarkable lowering of the bar. to the point now where everything's 0k as long as the president believes it's in his reelection interest. back with us from new york is
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former us senatorjoe lieberman. you sat in on the impeachment trial of bill clinton. i don't remember back then the argument being raised it effectively a president can do anything he likes to get himself reelected so long as he believes is in the public interest. that's ok. i cannot really believe that many of your republican former colleagues believe that, do you?” your republican former colleagues believe that, do you? i certainly do not. i know alan and he is a friend of mine but that argument went way over the top in my opinion. i spent a lot of time during the clinton trial going back to what the writers of our american constitution intended in the impeachment process. it was pretty clear to me that they did not want impeachments to happen very often because they wanted the results of elections to prevail. they set the threshold high. but this threshold is way over that. and
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what —— this threshold is way over that. and what — — would this threshold is way over that. and what —— would be an excuse for any future president to say that ijust did it because it was in the public interest because it would help me get reelected. thatjust does not go. 0k, senator, thank you very much for joining go. 0k, senator, thank you very much forjoining us. so setting aside that argument that president trump cannot do anything wrong as as is the public interest or the everything he does do is in the public interest... depending on that definition, yes. here are the republican argument. they say gathering evidence was the house of representative spots metjob. gathering evidence was the house of representative spots met job. they try to get all the evidence they have but it went to the white house and they said no. : more witnesses, if we call witnesses there will be these prolonged court fights over executive privilege. there is possibly that. the white house would like to exert executive privilege
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saying john bolton could not testify on security grounds which they are trying to do. we have enough evidence to reach a verdict. trying to do. we have enough evidence to reach a verdictlj trying to do. we have enough evidence to reach a verdict. i have no idea what to say to that. allowing the drawn out trial could set a dangerous precedent. well, the and asked about every time to get witnesses so they have to get a majority vote for every single witness and if they want hunter biden to vote for him and they want joe biden, that the vote every time. at which point the republicans could just say that is not yet, we are not voting any more. did i pass? almost until i get this one, there is not enough evidence to show they needed more evidence. i give up. tomorrow night, christian and i will be on tower bridge from 7pm for the final countdown to the uk's exit from the eu. dojoin us for that. but beyond tomorrow night's celebrations, commisserations, depending how you feel, is the next deadline —
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december 31, 2020 — and the end of the transition period. yes, there are more deadlines. by all accounts, boris johnson will deliver a speech next week in which he'll be setting out his ambitions for that new uk—eu trade deal. and according to reporting in the telegraph this morning, the message is, he is willing to accept some friction and barriers to trade in order to guarantee britain's ability not to have to follow eu rules and regulations. this past few weeks the eu has been laying out its terms for a zero—tariff, zero—quota trade deal. they want a "level playing field". in other words, they want the uk to match the eu on workers' rights, the environment, on fiscal rules and on state aid. what they fear is singapore on the thames. with us is the former chief executive of the advertising agency wpp sir martin sorrell, now of sa capital. i quite liked this idea.
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singapore on steroids. it quite a large people because we have a race to the bottom on tax. not as extreme as that. certainly lower tax, lower regulation, an economy that is open for business. to a degree. some of the things that the chancellor said that apparently i did not hear him at the british event last week in diverse but what he said was i think you are a main chancellor and i think he will from what we see in here, it is that. and given the digital transformation that has taken digital transformation that has ta ken place digital transformation that has taken place and disruption, you have education obviously as a high priority. a rescaling and re—education and mobility because sections of the economy get disrupted severely, geographic sections, industrial sections, service sections. and last but not least, hardware and software infrastructure. is it possible to have singapore on the thames with a
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lot of the regulation along with big government spending to bring the regions up to scratch? to answer -- to answer your question, it will be fio to answer your question, it will be no other fish nor fowl, not one thing or the other but a compromise between the two. i remain a remain supporter but the electorate has a smoke and if we are to make sitting ata smoke and if we are to make sitting at a brakes and it will take five or ten years, it will be the transition period that we will go through. in the negotiation of the agreement, my bet would be if you asked me to put money fiow bet would be if you asked me to put money now that we probably will not have a fully fledged agreement by the end of this year. we will have to have some form of extension and may be an agreement will be fleshed out or a platform fleshed out and then more detail will have to come in. is there a confidence risk in not have an agreement for the uk by the end of this year? it depends on if they have fleshed out the principals if they come together on the principles and come together to have extra time with the detail, that it have extra time with the detail, thatitis have extra time with the detail, that it is a complex process and i
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think it will be ok. i think we have to file for an extension byjuly, is a? end of july, to file for an extension byjuly, is a? end ofjuly, right. if not then, than there is trouble. there is risk by diverging because of transition may be extended or maybe it will not and maybe we divert to the uto rules and maybe we divert to the uto rules and all of that. but ijust wonder do you really think the civil—service is brave enough or business is brave enough to take on the challenge of the moment? yes, i feel energised by it particularly. i'm going off tonight to east,... 0r company, we are 70% us as of the america and 20% western europe anti—percent in asia. i wanted to be 40, 20 and 40 anti—percent in asia. i wanted to be 40,20 and 40 because of a asia obviously from our point of view offers a lot more promise. the prospector western europe and the classic western european economy, look at their proportion of worldwide gdp over the last five or ten or15 years,
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worldwide gdp over the last five or ten or 15 years, it is declined. the proportion represented by north and south america and by asia—pacific is on the increase. should the government be focused on a trade deal with the trumpet administration thanit deal with the trumpet administration than it should be with your? deal with the trumpet administration than it should be with your7m deal with the trumpet administration than it should be with your? it is a good deal. which comes first? do you settle... 0ne good deal. which comes first? do you settle... one of the things i don't like andl settle... one of the things i don't like and i think the uk may totally disagree with this, the uk should be the home of facebook and amazon and should not be imposing 80% digital tax. if you're going to do that, certainly there is an because of the lack ofjurisdiction of the internet companies, there is an argument of international cooperation. —— 2%. like squeezing a balloon. you squeeze them and they go elsewhere. in this particular point in time, having made the brexit decision in this country should be the home of those sorts of companies not be anti—towards them. those sorts of companies not be anti-towards them. the reason i ask if they are brave and epic as if
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there is fresh on the border and if things start up of the border again in the political heat that comes with that and we don't get an eu trade it was one of our biggest customers, then the sort of change you want to move on the thames, are we going to go far enough and fast enough? that is what i am asking.|j think the break will be in terms of resources. when i talked about the sort of things that ijust talked about, or we discussed, sort of things that ijust talked about, orwe discussed, people sort of things that ijust talked about, or we discussed, people will say we don't have the resources, we don't have the tax base. how can you lower taxes if we have to make investment in hard and soft infrastructure and education and re—education and mobility? and the privacy —— re—education and mobility? and the privacy — — processor re—education and mobility? and the privacy —— processor has a role in that as well. look about software for a that as well. look about software fora minute, that as well. look about software for a minute, the government, the cost of that is so huge the government is going to have to be involved in that. the cost of reit scaling and reeducating immobility have to be one i think equally by the private sector so it's a
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balance. he will come out somewhere towards where i am saying but it will not be as extreme as you are suggesting. that is the way through. otherwise, it is going to be very tough. thank you very much. let's speak now to senior researcher at the institute for government georgina wright. she joins us from westminster. i want to get a sense of the timetable that we have here. talking a bit about that there. an application to extend the deadline by the end ofjuly. do you think it is possible for the uk to get a trade agreement with the european union pretty much fleshed out by the end of this year? i think your question is what kind of trade agreement that the uk want with the eu. because of him argument might be possible but it might not cover all the sectors that are outlined in the political declaration which was this piece of paper outlining the vision and the ambition of the uk it in
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the eu future relationship. the president of the european commission was very clear about this when she visited london a couple of weeks ago. she said the time is short and we don't have a clear sense of what the uk once yet so we are going to have to prioritise. do we prioritise goods, do we prioritise fish can services for in all that and what to be lee post 2020? it will be choices that will need to be made. when you say that they don't know what the uk government wants, i know with he could government wants, it does not wa nt to could government wants, it does not want to align fully. it knows there isa want to align fully. it knows there is a cost if it diverges from eu regulations. do you think they fully understand that in the eu? absolutely. i think from the beginning it was very clear that yuki would want to diverge and i think martin is right, if you are going to lead us in the market and customs union, the government will wa nt customs union, the government will want to do things differently and thatis want to do things differently and that is an opportunity and the government should explore those opportunities. i think the eu are fully aware that that was the ukcontention. the problem is
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in the detail. from the eu perspective, they say if you want to retain access to the single market, you have to meet our standards. that means the goods that you export to oui’ means the goods that you export to our market have to be equal to the standards of our goods but also the way that you are producing your goods and or transporting them and the checks on the border. how can we trust that those checks that are donein trust that those checks that are done in dover on the same that are done in dover on the same that are donein done in dover on the same that are done in calais? it is all that nitty—gritty and all the border infrastructure and others question the need to be resolved and in the short timetable that is available. lovely to see you, thank you very much for your thoughts. ready to do much for your thoughts. ready to do much more of this tomorrow?” much for your thoughts. ready to do much more of this tomorrow? i am a. how much? six hours tomorrow night. is that kind of? know, that is it for a week. it never dies. this is beyond 100 days from the bbc. coming up for viewers on the bbc news channel and bbc world news, secretary of state mike pompeo
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is in london, where he's been discussing transatlantic trade, peace treaties and telecomms with prime minister borisjohnson. and in the spirit of national reconciliation, we bring together former figures from vote leave and stronger in one day before the uk legally ends its eu membership. that's still to come. hello, temperatures on the up again today, but that change has come with a lot of cloud, low cloud, mist and fog in places. damp, drizzly weather. here is a view from the sussex coast earlier today. we've brought up certainly some much milder airfrom a long ways south of the uk, and that stays with us for the next couple of days. so, the much warmer colours coming in across the uk. this represents a feel of the weather. it doesn't indicate there will be a huge amount of sunshine. that is certianly not the case now or through the weekend.
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but there will be some sunnier moments. and it is a very windy evening out there, still a chance of seeing some gusts in excess of 60 mph for some spots in scotland and northern england, but the strongest winds ease a little overnight. northern ireland with a spell of rain moving in and for the north and west of scotland and northwest england, especially cumbria. mild to the south, maybe a touch of frost in northeast scotland as friday begins. and then during friday, we take this rain and push it south and east across england and wales. behind it, it will be brightening up a bit and quite a bit of dry weather into northern ireland. a few showers running into scotland, especially in the west, most frequently to the northwest of scotland, where some will be heavy. it is another blustery day and average wind speeds, gusts are going to be higher, around 40 or 50 mph in places. but it is very mild, exceptionally mild in some spots. temperatures widely in double figures up on today, and some spots in eastern england could well be reaching 15 celsius. that is how friday is looking, and let's take a look at the big
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picture for the weekend. low pressure close to scotland on saturday. a few weather fronts affecting parts of southern england, so the weekend rain in scotland, especially in the west. it will push down across parts of northern ireland and northern england. uncertainty about the northern extent of the rain will clear away as the sunny skies follow on behind. little bit cooler on saturday and still quite windy out there, particularly in england and wales. and then on sunday, another spell of wet weather feeds north, a chillier start across northern half of the uk and some hill snow in the pennines and higher parts of scotland. behind that, we see a few showers coming into western areas, but also some sunny spells as well. still mild to the south, colder across the northern half of the uk and turns colder for all for a time next week.
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this is beyond 100 days. i'm katty kay in london with christian fraser. our tops stories, the world health organization is meeting, for the third time, to decide whether to declare the coronavirus outbreak a global health emergency. the first person—to—person case has also been confirmed in the united states. on the eve of britain leaving the european union, we'll be asking key figures from both sides of the debate how they intend to put division and rancour aside and begin to reconnect. coming up in the next half hour.
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is connectivity taking its toll on our kids? apparently more than half of children in the uk are sleeping with their mobile phone by their bed, a new shoe by nike is setting world records — we'll talk to an olympian who has just started wearing them — to get the edge he needs. when the leave campaign won the brexit referendum in 2016 — few people could imagine how divisive the next three and a half years would be. even people who had fairly mild opinions found themselves dragged into a tribal battle where there was suddenly no room for sitting on the fence.but on january the 1st, the former heads of the official remain and leave campaigns wote a joint letter in which they urged the brits to ‘leave behind a decade of division and begin the reconnection' "there is much that we share with each other: sit any two people together and they will find some common ground" they wrote. we've taken this advice to heart and invited two key figures
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from the remain and leave campaigns to join us. this is the first time they've met, so let's see how much we all have in common. stephen parkinson — who was national director at vote leave — and amy richards — who was press director at stronger in, joins us now. welcome. have you been getting on? feeling very nervous, cordial. that's a relief, is dead? that's a good start. —— isn't it? that's a relief, is dead? that's a good start. -- isn't it? we were talking about this beforehand in the green room and are very talking about this beforehand in the green room and are very cordial conversation, and the campaign was not as divisive as the aftermath has been. and partlyl not as divisive as the aftermath has been. and partly i think it has been the dominance of really polarised extreme voices in the debate, and i think the grounds for this was really laid by the government responding in the post—referendum period. there was no kind of
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recognition that yes we had voted to leave and started a process but 40% of people did not agree with that. we we re of people did not agree with that. we were entering into a negotiation in theirwe need we were entering into a negotiation in their we need to be compromise on both sides. instead the government leaned heavy into brexit, red lines we re leaned heavy into brexit, red lines were set and there was starting to bea were set and there was starting to be a demonization of the eu. i think that's really entrenched the positions and so we have had people on both extremes of the campaign really dominant and other people in the ultra brexiteers or the remainers, and there has not really been space for the subject of debate of what we need about what kind of country we want to be when we leave. what amy is describing, i live in the states, it sounds a little bit like the united states at the moment. where if you look at the numbers about 70% of americans
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call themselves centrists. they are in themselves centrists. they are in the middle. there's15% on either and that are hard to blow —— >> whether something about having a referendum that makes this tribal identity chris green it's a binary issue. only two options of the ballot paper and i disagree a bit with amy, i think, in a cordial way. ina binary with amy, i think, in a cordial way. in a binary referendum you cannot leave a little bit or stay a little bit. you had to have a clear outcome particularly in the days after the referenda people were wondering... the problem was because parliament the way it was we were really running the referendum deciding what future we were going to have. the key moment was the 2017 general
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election, for the first year at the referendum electorate on both sides, lots of people in their own heads we re 52 lots of people in their own heads were 52 — 48 split. people hovered over the two boxes before they decided but most people accepted the result. and thought well we will move result. and thought well we will move on, and for that first year that's with the expected politicians to do. it was after 2017 where there was a hung parliament were suddenly people started to get into those entrenched camps and the voices of the two fringes including lots of mps in the middle wanted to get on with it and make those copper prices and seek those deals. in the spirit of love and peace and harmony, how do we fix this? we need to draw a line of what's happened over the la st line of what's happened over the last three years and i think people who are passionately pro remained as lam, who who are passionately pro remained as i am, who believe that britain is my
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future should have been in the eu need to see this as a kind of moment and we will have a pro—european movement. and he is a remainerand a strong remained western the campaign. ithink strong remained western the campaign. i think that i would agree with martin that the responsibility on all of us is to make this work. we need to appear that we wanted this to be a success and want to see the economy not shrink and we don't wa nt the economy not shrink and we don't want people to feel uncovered when our country that have built lives here. that requires reaching out on both sides and there has to be a reaching out to those that feel not just concerned and angry tomorrow but quite scared. their concerns need to be listened to and responded
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to any considered way. rather than saying this is a project of fear or hysterical way to respond. i do think that the kind of reaching out and listening to each other and trying to have a more courteous and also a really more substantial conversation about what happens next. as you are saying in your intro this is not over. the tough bit really starts. i was glad that they wrote that letter that they did at the beginning of the year because we we re at the beginning of the year because we were casting our minds back to the debates that we had during the referendum and they were much more constructive and polite, so many of the words that have entered the political lexicon since about remainers and traders, and even hard and soft brexit, those were not issues in the campaign. tomorrow is a really huge opportunity to get back to a substantive debate about exactly that. what sort of country we want to build after. the last three and half years we have been
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fighting the question of whether we should leave and i would get to talk about how. it's really important issues to be grappled with and now we have got a parliament that is united behind doing it and can have that detailed discussion and much more courteous responsible and detailed way. so will you be on the green tomorrow night chris green i will be somewhere. i will be at home try to get that baby to sleep, i have a very young baby. lovely for that. thank you so much for coming the us secretary of state mike pompeo is in london to meet with his counterpart dominic raab. there's plenty to discuss, iran, the president's new middle east peace plan, and of course he is here to urge the uk government to rethink its decision on huaweii. the british government is keen to talk about the extradition request for anne sacoolas who flew back home to the us in a hurry last year after being involved in a car crash in which 19—year—old
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harry dunn died. the americans want to talk about prince andrew, who by all accounts has offered zero cooperation to the fbi. well maybe there is a solution to all that. some people suggest there could be kind of bartering between what we wa nt kind of bartering between what we want this, we want elsewhere, is there anything to be done?|j want this, we want elsewhere, is there anything to be done? i can a nswer there anything to be done? i can answer that, i'm confident each of these cases will be resolved under their relative merits. so that's how each of our two systems operate. until the agree. there's no barter, it's a rules —based approach, that's with the treaty does. both see the treaties on both sides. and we want to make it work. there's no haggling and no one is raised in. no one has ever raised that with me. now they have. doing the big business swap. on the bridge.
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we can bring in our north america editor — jon sopel — in washington sorry to have left you behind in washington, thank you for staying there. tell me they are not going to vote on the impeachment tomorrow and they did make a mistake by flying over to be with christian?” they did make a mistake by flying over to be with christian? i cannot do that. all right. let's get on to mike pompeo. the big issue of course is huawei and tried to persuade the british government to back down on this. you think in the end of the americans are going to use this to retaliate against britain when it comes to negotiating that uk us trade deal? i think it was a very unusual situation that british found themselves in because you had the president and secretary of state for the national security adviser, all piling in and saying don't do this. in the british say it, you know what, we are going to do this anyway. that said i think
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that the way borisjohnson has handled it since that is pretty smart, he booked in a call with donald trump almost immediately after the cabinet had made the decision that they were going to go ahead with some kind of limited use of huawei in the 5g network, and i think there's one really telling thing that the british side are clinging to, and i don't want to go all sir arthur conan don't want to go all sir arthur co na n doyle don't want to go all sir arthur conan doyle but it's the curious incident of the dog in the night. there has not been the bark from donald trump on this. donald trump has not said a word and i think british diplomats and policy leaders in the foreign office were waiting to see what the reaction would be from the president and so far there has been none. i think they take a huge amount of comfort for that. i was told by a senior source i think it is fairto was told by a senior source i think it is fair to say that the americans did to convey their disappointment to us very clearly. so clearly there is fury but i don't know yet whether this going to be retaliation
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over it. because he had does that with me. expresses disappointment. we've had others in the studio tonight and we as of there should be a us trade deal before any new one and if that was achievable and a similar question was put to them today, let's hear what mike pompeo had to say about it. —— mike pompeo. let's hear what mike pompeo had to say about it. -- mike pompeo. both teams want to prefer teams for their own country does how negotiations work. i should not trouble any of us when their heart stops in there's difficult points along the way. you're committed to working on this as quickly as we can and don't to put a timeline on it and it will ta ke put a timeline on it and it will take a little bit but i hope by the end of this year or late summer early fall we have a substantial piece of progress. from a us perspective i remember speaking to the us ambassador some months ago and he said to me if they go all in with europe there's not much we can do on the us trade deal, i imagine they will want to lay down some
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markers early. as a kind of curious come the language that's being used is that both trade deals and this is what the conservative said, both trade deals can be looked at in parallel and i'm not sure how you can do that. the trade deal you do with one will have implications for the trade deal would have scope to do with the other. in a sense i'm not sure how you do both in parallel if you are going to make changes to the laws of pharmaceuticals and what's acceptable with the trade deal in the us, that will have a knock on effect of what sort of pharmaceutical deal you can do with the eu. there's going to be one sorted out at a time and i think the one thing that during the general election of the uk there was the leak of all of those documents that jeremy corbyn got a hold of what she said proved the national health service was about to be privatised. the americans will say nothing of the sort and that's what the
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americans are after. do they want to see american pharmaceutical producers get access to british markets? absolutely, of course they do. in the office of the united states trade representative are tough. they are hard negotiators and the one thing i will say for certain is this is not going to be easy. we arejumping on is this is not going to be easy. we are jumping on because is this is not going to be easy. we arejumping on because thank is this is not going to be easy. we are jumping on because thank you for joining us we have to go straight to the who. asa as a press conference today are deciding whether to declare the spread of the coronavirus a global emergency. listening to doctor ted ross who has been talking about remarkable response of the chinese government who said had to be congratulated for the extraordinary measures they have taken to contain the outbreak. as yet we will have a quick listen in. and has declared eight double emergency. yes they have, just saw that flash. it is now a global health emergency. of course what that does is put in train a
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whole load of measures that governments around the world will need to take. and resources. and will accelerate the work on vaccines. and will urge some countries as we are hearing those that are lagging behind in their preparedness in the actions they are retaking. i will be interesting to see what it does in china in particular because there have been questions about chinese reporting on the scale of this at how accurate it is or how transparent it is, what i don't know and i will be interesting to find out is whether having a global health emergency means that people are sent to china to get a real handle on what is happening there. the thing that worries a lot of people and i think they read the same social media that i do, is there is these official numbers but reports than people in china at those people who died in the streets with the people who have died in their homes. we have not stood them up their homes. we have not stood them up but trying to do that. world health organisation has just declared the coronavirus a global
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health emergency. that's the breaking news. if dominic cummings had a dream when he delivered brexit, it was for the uk to become "the best place in the world for people to invent the future". he wants the uk to emulate the success of silicon valley, delivering trillions for the uk economy. there are many who are excited by the uk's government's new commitment to science and technology — borisjohnson has vowed to double state funding of research and development. but can the country catch up with us and china — which have the advantages of scale and years of high level investment? what does the government need to do to attract the best talent to the uk. how do they support the new industries. and how quickly will it deliver? particularly if some of the olders industries are sacrificied in order for the uk to diverge from european regulation. joining us now is eileen burbridge — chair of tech nationand partner at venture capital. you have been with mike pompeo and dominic rob today. you're listening to these lands in
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the trade deal. we had an opportunity to very much like wasjust read out we got to emphasise how flourishing the uk tech economy was in there how important it could be within the trade discussions. and therefore helpful with a free—trade agreement. they want to reinvent with the americans dead, it had a research hub that an out of the cold war. and from that, from the massive investment we got silicon valley. that was about 40 or 50 years ago and absolutely acted as a catalyst for innovation, for research in science and for investment. i think the good news is the uk does not have that far to catch up with and that's what we emphasised and we we re that's what we emphasised and we were visiting some tech offices introducing them to take unicorns which are digital companies that are already worth in excess of £1 billion. we highlighted for example the fact that
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the uk already attracted £10 billion in the text sector alone 2019. it's a much greater one and we are growing at a much faster pace. give us a sense of the relative size there. definitely coming from a lower base. it has been outpacing everything else. the united states has caltech and mit, it has umpteen universities with harvard and stanford come all sitting there with talent available for silicon valley. it is huge amounts of venture capital money as amounts of venture capital money as a culture of innovation and entrepreneurship that starting here in the uk but still behind the united states. we are forgetting how much ground has been gained of the la st much ground has been gained of the last five to ten years. i have been here in the last five years and we have put forward a lot of programmes and initiatives to bolster the tech
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sector across all of the uk. what you're saying is all of these universities, because the heritage we have in the uk we have got cambridge of course, oxford and king's college, about 11 universities in southeast england that contribute huge amounts of research and that of course manchester, bristol which has the largest robotics centre across europe and there will we need to do now is knit together these hubs universities to produce greater outcomes that we have got the investment, it's growing at a faster rate than the us and china, already 10 billion pounds as i said and we have more tech unicorns that term i use already than anybody else in europe. we have actually got more tech unicorns coming from the oxford cambridge corner and that any of the european cities. we have strong hubs that rival those of europe within the uk and so all we have to do is amplify that even further and continue to attract talent, to
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continue to attract talent, to continue to attract talent, to continue to encourage policymakers to be really thoughtful about regulation, so data and privacy and talked about the text tax and we still have a culture of innovation and then focus on skills and inclusion. we have got to catch up with the visual skills and talents that we need but it's getting outpaced even more. silicon valley has a problem with that too, however. thank you have for coming more than half of all children in the uk — and we suspect in many other countries too — now sleep with their mobile phone by their bed. by the age of 11, fully 90% of children have their own device. i'm feeling guilty. and this connectivity is taking its toll. here's just one finding , 42% of the children surveyed admit they are "constantly worried" about running out of a charge. not that think of it sometimes — or fret about it occasionally — no are children are constantly worrying that their phone is going
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to run out ofjuice. 4296 42% of children are constantly worried they're going to run out of juice. that is terrifying. what do you do. i know it's not about us but what do you do? all of my kids have phones, poppy has an arm that it's a phones, poppy has an arm that it's a phone attached to the end of it. between the hours of 3pm when she gets home from school and 6pm she has to put her phone and a basket by the front door. i thought she would fight us on it but actually she has been sort of relief, i think it's very ha rd to been sort of relief, i think it's very hard to focus on her work. but i also have a horrible feeling that she is staying up late at night with the phone to catch up on all the time she missed. we have banned them from the bedrooms, so they are downstairs to be have a of control. but my eight—year—old, we are going to get him a watch. we could watch for my mother—in—law and place them in and you can talk to your nearest and dearest on the phone, it has a gps on ecchymosis people buying funds for the young children as they
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know where they are committed to be the watch is actually a better way to have it. because you don't have the social media apps. exactly. exactly what i'm thinking. christian andi exactly what i'm thinking. christian and i will try it between london and washington. we will get you a watch. do you have the scripts? come to the studio on time. beam me up. the nike vaporfly shoe is fast — and it has quickly become the trainer of choice for many athletes. varying forms of the high—tech shoes have been of the feet of the five fastest marathon runners of all time — all in the past 16 months. but now, world athletics is set to tighten regulations. it is considering whether to ban the trainers — an announcement is expected tomorrow. but the shoe is already changing the way people think about their running. canadian marathon runner reid coolsaet has competed in two olympics and still needs to qualify for tokyo 2020 — and he's decided to change his shoes. unfortunately i didn't
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reid joins us now from guelph ontario. have you actually taken a real scientific look at these trainers, what is it that is giving athletes the advantage? these trainers have a new foam in it that is more responsive so when it compresses it gives you back the energy to him a little bit more energy than old ones and it's a little bit more stiff, has a carbon fibre plate in it that also releases more energy when you compress it and it comes off of your flight. compress it and it comes off of your flight. it's brings you back and it just has a lot more foam underneath it thana just has a lot more foam underneath it than a traditional shoe. and it ends up saving your legs a little bit more towards the end of a marathon. but the problem with this
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is that athletes were not sponsored, you give up your new balance sponsorship, if you are not sponsored by nike you are at a disadvantage. yes, i mean, right now nike has this year that all of the other companies are trying to emulate. i think we will get to a time down the line when every company has a that is competitive with the vapour fly but there ahead of everybody else. do you think it is fair? anybody can buy the shoe so ina sense is fair? anybody can buy the shoe so in a sense it is fair and sure there are athletes that have contracts with other companies, and they are stuck in a difficult position. do you wait for your company to build that shoe that's going to be competitive or do you, it's the fastest on the market right now. we'll watch that decision tomorrow closely. in your running.
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yes and your running. thank you forjoining us. civitavechia is the ancient port of rome. on the website of the local tourism bureau is a useful guide on how to explore the nearby eternal city— they even offer welcome agents to make sure you enjoy their town. the town's slogan is visit, love and share. so imagine the scenes at the dockside this morning. 1000 passenger were preparing to disembark, from the costa smerelda, when the local mayor ernesto tedesco careered onto the dockside in his fiat 500 driven by his assistant, with him leaning out of the window shouting: stop, stop. ‘are you crazy? i" i think you should have had a career infilm. i think you should have had a career in film. that was good. hospitality it seems only goes so far. because this particular ship has been in lockdown over coronairus after a 54 year old passenger came down with flu like symptoms. bad luck for the 7,000 people on board who can't get off — and certainly aren't welcome by the mayor. preliminary test results now suggest that the couple does not have coronavirus after all, and the ships' crew — who had been told to wait
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until the full results came back from rome — have decided some of the passengers could leave anyway. i've got this impression, he sitting in his coffee shop and tricking his es p resso in his coffee shop and tricking his espresso and saying they're all getting off? they what! get the fiat. it's the fiat that makes it. we will be with you tomorrow night for the count down. do join us for that. see you later. hello. temperatures on the up again today but with a lot of cloud, low cloud, mist and fog in places. damp, drizzly weather. here is a view from the sussex coast earlier today. we've brought up certainly some much milder airfrom a long ways south of the uk, and that stays with us for the next couple of days. so, the much warmer colours coming in across the uk. this represents a feel of the weather. it doesn't indicate there will be a huge amount of sunshine. that is certianly not the case now or through the weekend. but there will be some sunnier moments. and it is a very windy evening out there, still a chance of seeing some
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gusts in excess of 60 mph for some spots in scotland and northern england, but the strongest winds ease a little overnight. northern ireland with a spell of rain moving in and for the north and west of scotland and northwest england, especially cumbria. mild to the south, maybe a touch of frost in northeast scotland as friday begins. and then during friday, we take this rain and push it south and east across england and wales. behind it, it will be brightening up a bit and quite a bit of dry weather into northern ireland. a few showers running into scotland, especially in the west, most frequently to the northwest of scotland, where some will be heavy. it is another blustery day and average wind speeds, gusts are going to be higher, around 40 or 50 mph in places. but it is very mild, exceptionally mild in some spots. temperatures widely in double figures up on today, and some spots in eastern england could well be reaching 15 celsius. that is how friday is looking, and let's take a look at the big picture for the weekend. low pressure close to scotland on saturday. a few weather
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fronts affecting parts of southern england, so the weekend rain in scotland, especially in the west. it will push down across parts of northern ireland and northern england. uncertainty about the northern extent of the rain will clear away as the sunny skies follow on behind. little bit cooler on saturday and still quite windy out there, particularly in england and wales. and then on sunday, another spell of wet weather feeds north, a chillier start across the northern half of the uk and some hill snow in the pennines and higher parts of scotland. behind that, we see a few showers coming into western areas, but also some sunny spells as well. still mild to the south, colder across the northern half of the uk and turns colder for all for a time next week.
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this is bbc news, i'mjulian warick. the headlines at 8pm. 170 people have died in china. over the past few weeks, we have witnessed the emergence of a previously unknown pathogen, which has escalated into an unprecedented outbreak, which has been met by an unprecedented response. britons trapped in the centre of the
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city are given permission to fly home, the flight is due to leave in the next few hours. it's a massive relief. can't wait to get back now and just sort of get away from everything, and de—stress, i think. the number of rape prosecutions in england and wales has fallen again — as the number of suspects charged rises slightly. i think it's really important that people do report, but, at the same time, my gut instinct is tojust say don't bother. the chancellor, sajid javid throws his support behind hs2 — as a number of tory mps consider rebelling against a government go ahead. and the high tech trainers said to feel like running on trampolines — are they giving professional athletes an unfair advantage?
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