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but only briefly. later, we bring this rain in from the south—west, some of it on the heavy side, the wind picking up and the air turning increasingly mild. 11 degrees in plymouth to start tomorrow morning. compare that to —1 in aberdeen. as we go through the day, it is all about this band of rain which will be moving its way quite slowly north eastwards. some uncertainty about how far north the rain will get across scotland but there is some snow likely to be mix again. to the south, some sunshine but some hefty showers too. to the south of wales and england, there is likely to be a lot of cloud with rain coming back into the channel islands. very mild in the south, at 12 to m degrees. colder than the north and then, on monday, there will be some blustery weather, particularly in the north of the uk, but dry in the further south. it will calm down for the middle of the week. hello, this is bbc news with lu kwesa burak. the headlines:
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the university of york says risk of infection is low, after it revealed one of the two people in the uk to test positive for coronavirus, is one of its students. public health england says 203 people have now been tested — with no additional positive cases. bell tolls. the uk enacts its most profound strategic change in a generation, leaving the european union, after nearly half a century. a 19—year—old man dies and a 22—year—old woman is seriously ill, after they're believed to have taken the drug mdma at a student music event in warwickshire. now, a look back at the best stories and interviews from this week's victoria derbyshire programme.
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hello and welcome. for the next half an hour we will show you some of the highlights of our award—winning journalism over the last week. on tuesday, we heard from a mum whose ex—partner is a convicted child rapist. she told our programme exclusively, she fears for her daughter's safety after a family court granted him fornightly overnight access to her children. susie, whose name we've changed, found out whilst in a relationship with her ex that he had previously served ten years in jail for raping a young girl and is a registered sex offender. after they separated, the family court granted him overnight contact with his children and not formally supervised. she says one of her young daughters has returned home and made an unclear but potentially worrying disclosure. she believes the authorities have failed to properly assess the risk he might pose to them.
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susie spoke to us anonymously about what has happened to her. her words are spoken for her, and a warning, some of the details of her story are distressing. well, i'd already fallen in love with him, and then one day he asked me if we could have a big chat. he then told me he'd been wrongly convicted of rape of a young girl. and i remember wanting to run a mile and not knowing what to think. you became pregnant. you both had a little girl together, and soon after your daughter was born, social services knocked on the door. why? because he was on the sex offenders register and they said that my then infant baby would be under a care order for life and would be under the constant scrutiny of the social services. because they considered her to be at risk from him? yep. how did you feel about that?
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well, i was terrified the baby was going to be taken away. so i was interviewed extensively by them and then they closed the case completely and said that they deemed that i understood his conviction and that i was protective and they deemed that i would be able to take care of her and protect her. was that the right decision? no. why do you say that? they hadn't extensively looked at the case at all. they didn't have the proper information. they just closed it. it wasn't long after she was born though that your ex started to become violent. can i ask you what happened? she was still a very young baby, and one night hejust lost it. he just lost it. it was like a completely different person. he just flew into this uncontrollable rage and he couldn't
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see me, couldn't hear me. didn't even know it was me. and then he violently hit me, raped me and then woke up the next morning and pretended it hadn't happened. you have since reported what happened then to the police. you didn't at the time. explain why that wasn't something you felt you could do back then. well, people think that when you're in domestic violence, you're going to wake up the next morning and get away. you're talking about a situation where someone is violent to you. they rape you. they fall asleep and it could be a matter of minutes before you hear a baby crying, looking for a bottle, and you don't have time to think. neither do you have the resources to get out and so life just carries on. and you hope it will get better?
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you do. you had another daughter with him before you say it eventually all became just too much. the relationship had completely spiraled downwards, completely disintegrated. how did you feel at that point about him being able to see your children unsupervised? at that point, i was a lot more on edge in terms of what... i'd seen his behaviour towards me to be quite damaging. so, at that point, i didn't want him to have unsupervised access. so for a while i maintained him seeing them with me present for a while. but he didn't want that. he wanted them completely alone and it became difficult. so you maintained contact for quite some time and then you stopped it. tell us why.
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so i let him see them for a while, both at my house and then also with his new girlfriend. and then my daughter came home and said, "daddy did something to me." and what she said was very confusing. it didn't make any sense. and all of a sudden i went from nought to a hundred. i'm not going to support this any more. be the one that says it's ok. and at that point, i stopped contact, reported what she said, reported all historic violence to the police and social services and stopped contact. what did you think she meant when she said, "daddy did something to me?" to this day, i don't know, and it terrifies me, the thought. all i know is that children are difficult to interpret, but i know my daughter and i have no
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reason why she would say something like that. was she distressed? yeah, extremely. she was screaming. was she? yeah. and that's when you thought, no more. no more. he then applied to the family courts for access to see your children and the family court then finally granted him overnight contact with your daughters every fortnight, to be loosely supported by his new partner. loosely supported, not fully supervised. how did you feel about that? it's rubbish. he's dangerous and she is not objective and doesn't have to be there all the time. i mean, like, what do they know about this person? have they actually assessed her in any way, in the same way so how worried were you then? i'm terrified every single time they go there. terrified. what do you fear could happen?
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people who are convicted of the kind of offences he's been convicted of, rapists who have a proven track record of doing it, notjust once, he's going to do it again. it's not a question of if he will do it again. it's a question of who he will do it to. will it be my children or will it be someone else? you think there's a possibility he could rape your daughters? his daughters? yes. and to be clear, you say all you want is for your ex to be properly risk assessed because of that conviction for raping a girl all those years ago? for raping a girl and being violent towards me. i mean, somebody surely is able to just look at the situation and say, here's someone who has a repeating pattern of violent behavior and his contact with his children surely should be properly risk assessed.
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and you know thatjudges who preside over the family court say at the heart of every decision they make is the children's welfare. that child is at the centre of that decision. garbage. if you are affected by any of the issues suzie discussed, you can find help and information on bbc action line. that's. .. 18 months ago, our reporter rachel stonehouse went undercover to expose landlords offering would—be tenants a roof over their heads in return for sex. her report made a big impact. the mp wera hobhouse raised the issue in parliament and the crown prosecution service updated its guidelines to make it clear this can be a criminal offence. but the cps has now told us it is not aware that anyone has ever been prosecuted. the guidelines suggest it is not at all straightforward to bring a case and we have got evidence that landlords are still doing it. here is rachel's
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latest exclusive film. our investigation focused on the classified site craigslist, where adverts left little to the imagination. "double room for naughty girl for exchange of favours." so has anything changed? i've just done a quick search and i've come across more than 100 ads across the uk, and that's really surprised me because i genuinely thought that there would be fewer than last time. and they're stilljust as blatant. "lovely house to rent and cheap as i'll be wanting paying in kind also!" we asked craigslist for an interview, but theyjust ignored us. but we've also discovered that dodgy landlords have developed new, devious tactics. they're preying on people placing genuine ads and contacting them directly rather than taking the risk of posting potentially illegal ads themselves. vicky was looking for accommodation in bristol on the website spareroom when she received an unexpected offer.
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so at what point was it that you started to think, "hm, something's not right here?" i got a text off someone saying, "are you still looking for somewhere to live?" and then theyjust kind of said i was up for living rent—free. so i asked, "how is it rent—free?" they said they wanted some discreet fun on the side. so being fairly obvious about what exactly is expected? yeah. how did that make you feel when you got that message? it made me feel disgusting. really, really horrible. and it's never something i've ever heard about before. i'd never have known that this was a thing. so for someone to just text me something like that is quite... itjust made me feel horrible. we asked spareroom for a statement and they told us... i hope i will hear from you, i really do. we've been told that this new tactic
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of direct messaging has also been used by one of our old landlords. in a minute, he will be hearing from us. 0h, hello. i'm looking for mike. but first, i'm heading to see bath mp wera hobhouse, who is expecting me to call. wera raised the issue in the house of commons after seeing our previous film. wera hobhouse. despite various efforts to update the cps guidelines, it is still difficult to bring a prosecution, and to date there haven't been any. i did a quick search the other day just to see how many sex for rent ads i could find. and i'm just going to show you this one. so we've got room available, one—bed, central bath, shared with me, 33—year—old male. females only. and then nsa and fwb. which we know is friends with benefits arrangement. what's your reaction to seeing that? anything that is so close to home is shocking. i'm not surprised in a way that
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bath is a target area, because in bath housing isjust so very unaffordable. i then show wera our interview with vicky. obviously, that is a kind of even more devious tactic by a landlord because this is someone looking for a genuine room that they want to pay for. so this is obviously where we need to do a lot more work. people need to come forward. they need to feel strong enough and feel that they have the law behind them to bring this really vile practice out of the shadows. back to mike. when i went undercover for the last film, he made me a very generous offer. the room, the rent, all the bills, everything paid for. and i'll even give you an allowance every week so that you feel that you're looked after. obviously, the no, nothing to pay, what's the sort of arrangement — this fwb, friends with benefits?
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well, the benefits part is, you sleep with me once a week. when we contacted mike last time, he said that he was really an author and that he was pretending to be a landlord to research a book he was writing about the exploitation of women. but since then, we've been contacted by someone concerned that he may still be looking for a lodger. kim, which isn't her real name, was tweeting about how expensive accommodation in bristol was when she says mike contacted her directly. he messaged me saying, you know, i can offer you this in exchange for a sex for rent agreement. and because of the way the landlord is on twitter, i thought he was actuallyjoking. so ijust said thanks, but no thanks. and then you came across our documentary a couple of months later. what did you think when you put two and two together and realised it was the same person? it made me feel quite uneasy. and i do worry that there are already women in these situations. i mean, a lot of the comments i've seen around it are along the lines of, well, if it's two consenting adults, then what's the problem? people don't really seem to see what's actually wrong with the proposition in the first place. and also, i think it's
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underreported as well. it's happened to so many of my friends, and i believe that there are hundreds, if not thousands more women it's happened to. but because there isn't really a mechanism to report it, theyjust kind of move on and forget about it. but we haven't forgotten about mike. we write to him to give him a chance to respond to this latest twitter allegation. but we don't hear a dickie bird, so we try looking for him at the address where he offered me a room. door bell rings. doesn't look like anybody is at home, or if they are they're certainly not answering. and then, a few days later, we receive an e—mail from a solicitor representing mike. he claims he's been the victim of continued mischief by a fraudster that hacked into his e—mail and social media accounts. he denies ever meeting or phoning any women, but the letter doesn't mention tweeting, which is how kim told us she was contacted. this is definitely something we'd like to try and discuss in person, so we head back to wiltshire.
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so we've just knocked on his door where we now are pretty certain that he is living, but nobody answered, unfortunately. so we're basically left with no option but to to try and speak to him on the phone, so i'm going to give him a call now. be interesting to see if he answers. line rings. hello? oh, hi. mike, it's rachel here from the bbc. can you tell me why you're offering free rent to women in exchange for sex? uh, i'm not, so that's the end of the conversation. we've got evidence to believe otherwise, mike. this woman who was contacted via twitter — you're saying that was not you and that was somebody else who was impersonating you? i'm saying that i believe it was somebody else impersonating me, yes. i have never engaged in having anybody here in my accommodation for sex. can you see that, from our point of view, there are a lot of things here thatjust aren't adding up? imean... yes, but things rarely add up in life.
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i really don't want to engage in this any more. will you meet us? goodbye now. line beeps. wow. that was interesting. he is absolutely clear that he thinks he's done nothing wrong. i really hope i never have to talk to mike again, and i'm pretty sure the feelings mutual, but we still need the authorities and websites to do more to put a stop to sex for rent arrangements. and finally brexit. we reunited two people on opposite sides of the debate for one last brexit date. gosh, that's a bit threatening. here we are again. christ. my name is racheljohnson, part of thejohnson clan. i'm nigel farage, i'm a salesman. nobody wants to be sold down the river. i have spent the last 27 years of my life campaigning to leave the european union. it's going to happen.
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i was a remainer and now i am a recovering remainer. i want leavers and remainers to lie down as the lion and lamb together. i mean, dreams don't come true, do they? i'll be very disappointed if my blind date isn't nigel farage. so you better deliver. i'm so excited. i don't believe it. ijust don't believe it! but i'm pleased, i'm pleased, i'm very pleased. hello, love. how are you? you don't look a day older. did you know or did you guess? no! did you know? did you hope? i hoped. hoped against hope. no, i did actually hope. all right, well, let's see how it goes, nigel. well, i'll order a bottle and if you want... no, you can't! well, of course i will. ok, order a bottle. i will. what are you going to have? i'm probably today going to have a steak.
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as it's brexit week. it worries me that remainers, who aren't in recovery, like i am, are beginning to sound really petty and a bit nuts. yeah. we have a tiny minority of leavers in a very large family, but it's been that one leaver in the family who has led the whole country out of europe. it almost turned into a civil war at one point. what is going to be important now is winning the peace, and that's why i didn't feel that the big ben bong for brexit was necessarily very clever. well, can you think of a bigger constitutional change since henry viii? no, but i think if you ring big ben, that's symbolic nationally. well, i think not to ring big ben, around the rest of the world, makes us look a bit ridiculous. oh, come on! nobody is saying, "and they didn't bong... "and big ben didn't bong!" what i find astonishing is not the upset, because you can be
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upset with the result, but the refusal to accept the result. that's the thing i find very difficult. it's a generational change. but it was an instruction. but wait, wait, wait. it's not just. .. it was a clear instruction. it's notjust voting one party into power, it's deciding to leave the union of 28 countries in which our children and grandchildren can work, live and travel freely. suffer. pay taxes for. there is no point... listen... let's not re—run it, but you must accept... there is no point arguing... come on. but you must accept that... no, no, no. you must accept... no, it's notjust an election, it's a decision to change the nature of our national life completely. you must accept that the established status quo never want change of any kind at all, because "i'm all right, jack." look, mate, as a woman, i understand this. you know, this is why the patriarchy doesn't like to see women taking over, because they like the status quo as well.
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slavery is a very, very good example of this. the what? slavery is a very good... the campaign against slavery is a very, very good example... yeah. ..where an increasing number of people think it's wrong. 0k. but the argument gets made, if we end it, it will have catastrophic consequences for the economies of bristol and liverpool. are you comparing the eu to slavery? same argument. this is very ann widdecombe of you. same argument, same argument. same principle. it's... court laws. court laws are even better. court laws. ok, extend the slavery one. so, the slavery one is, those that are in power are doing very well out of slavery. they've done very well out of slavery for a long time, and even though they know themselves that morally it is wrong, they will do everything they can to... what was morally wrong with being a member of the eu? an institution, that i don't need to remind you, the single market was set up by a brit and was run by brits, and it was a british idea. bad brits.
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the thing is, we know that all the main problems that face us can't be faced as sole traders. oh, yes, they can. they can't, nigel. why not? well, what about coronavirus, climate change, nuclear proliferation? well, europe's far too small to deal with that. we're in a climate emergency — let's not go into it... are we? but we are now saying that we don't really... says greta. yeah, call me greta. ..that we can overlook a market 22 miles away in order to send container ships thousands and thousands of miles... we are not ignoring it, rachel. ..putting sulphur into our oceans. the fact is, the world has become a very small place. nigel, the fact is, the world has remained exactly the same size in terms of container shipping miles. i'll tell you what has got smaller, the importance of europe. europe is a much less important place than it was just a few years ago. and that trend will continue.
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i'll tell you what has become smaller, our power as a global player outside europe. that is probably the worst argument in 30 years. i think friday, 11 o'clock, is the point of no return. once it's done, there is no going back. well, not for 10, 20 years, folk... well, the eu won't be there. oh, come on, nigel. i bet you. no! i'll be back. ok, let's have another date... ok, fine. ..in five, ten, 15 years. the eu is not going away. when we met last time after the referendum... you were skint, your marriage had broken up, you were being attacked in restaurants. you were in a bad way. now you look slimmer, you are happy, you've achieved your lifetime's ambition. yeah, i am pretty happy. and you're making money. things are a lot better. and we are leaving! we are actually leaving.
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i'm just pretending. nigel, you must eat some greens. i must, you're absolutely right. i will, i will do as you say. eat your greens. i will do as you say! ok, can we just talk about you leaving the european parliament? that's it, i'm done, i'm out of there. and do you think they will be glad to see the back of us? i...think they're going to miss us horrendously. and are you going to miss them? you are, aren't you? i'll miss the theatre, i'll miss that. i'll miss being the pantomime villain. that was great. thanks, jose, we've finished. you know. yeah. iwould... what are you going to replace it with in your life? you could go to the lords. oh, i don't think... well, i don't think they'll ever offer me anything. why not? but what i really want... you actually... i mean, you probably are more responsible for brexit than any other brit on the earth. sure. yeah. but they can't admit that. why, they have to own it themselves? they are too insecure,
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it is all too difficult. really? oh, yeah, yeah. have you had a meeting with the tories? no, i'm not interested. i'm not interested. there's no point. look at me nigel. there is no point, no point. nigel. i'm not going to the house of lords, ok? and would i want to go anyway? you've moderated your views a lot in three years. have i? yeah, you were really angry. it is the subject that has been metamorphosising people. they go from being normal... yeah, i think brexit was like a metastatic cancer into the body politic. it's got in there and then everybody became radicalised by it. i will never be a leaver, but i'm very happy... no. no, no. but i don't think the term leaver and remainer apply any more, and ifor one am relieved. but what i do think is that both sides, if there are going to be sides, have got to make sure that whatever happens is right for the country. this lunch is on me.
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is it? oh, my god! you won, i lost. well, that's marvellous. thank you. so, the loser picks up the bill. that's very sporting. cheers. nice to see you. really nice to see you. our second date. very pleased. doesn't often happen. that is it for this week. you can contact me anytime on twitter and you can e—mail us if you have a story is like us to look at. victoria@bbc.co.uk. we are back live on monday morning at 10am on bbc two, the bbc news channel and online. thanks for watching. hello, it is turning into a decidedly mixed weekend of weather. we have had all sorts thrown at us today. southern parts have seen some sunshine but it has been quite windy. that was how it looked on the coast in cornwall. further north, a lot of cloud, some outbreaks of showery rain, thanks
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to our weather watcher in edinburgh for capturing the scene. as we go through this evening and tonight, the showers will ease away. then a slice of dry weather and clear skies, then we bring more rain in from the south—west. some of that will be heavy, tracking its way northwards across england, wales, into northern ireland by the end of the night. the south—west of it turning very mild, ii in plymouth to start tomorrow morning. compare that with minus one in aberdeen. as you go through tomorrow we take our outbreaks of rain, push them quite slowly northwards. there is a bit of uncertainty about how far north of the rain will get across scotland but there is likely to be some snow mixing in over the highest grounds. for northern ireland, parts of northern england, wales, the midlands, we will see sunshine developing. but some hefty showers as well, especially in the west. for the south of wales and the south of england, there is likely to be quite a lot of cloud. the channel islands seeing more rain pushing in. temperature wise, well, 12—14 across the south. very mild here, much colder across the northern half of scotland. as you go through sunday night, we push our rain band ever further northwards.
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lots of showers following on behind but for a monday, it is all about this area of low pressure. quite a deep low and on its southern flank, you can see all these isobars squashing together. a swathe of really strong winds. quite a blustery day for all parts, i think, but particularly scotland where we will see some outbreaks of showery rain until hill snow further south, there will be a slice of sunshine but for southern england, south of wales, again, quite a lot of cloud and for the channel islands, it is looking like a very soggy day indeed. top temperatures between eight and ii degrees, but given the strength of the wind, it will feel colder than that. talking of the wind, if you are travelling through monday night this is worth bearing in mind. for a time gusts of 75—80 mph across the western side of scotland. some very strong winds, also funnelling through the central belt. and then into the first part of tuesday morning, we get a north — north—westerly wind blowing down across the eastern side of scotland and into north—east england. that could cause one or two problems. some showers to start tuesday, some of them wintry. they will fade.
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for the middle of the week, it looks drier with some spells of sunshine. this is bbc news, i'm lukwesa burak. the headlines at 5pm. the university of york says risk of infection is low, after it revealed one of the two people in the uk to test positive for coronavirus, is one of its students. i want to reassure our students that we are working closely with the lead agency, public health england, and other agencies to manage the situation. public health england says 203 people have now been tested — with no additional positive cases. bongs. the uk enacts its most profound strategic change in a generation, leaving the european union,
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