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this is bbc news, i'm shaun ley. the headlines at 3pm. there are reports of a man being shot dead in streatham in south london. the eleven britons evacuated from wuhan in china have landed in france on their way to quarantine on the wirral. meanwhile, the first death from coronavirus outside china is reported in the philippines. the prime minister lays out his demands for a post—brexit trade deal. we'll be looking ahead to tonight's bafta awards. ‘joker‘ leads the way with 11 nominations but it's the first world war epic ‘1917‘ which is tipped to take the top prize of best film. england hope to kick off their six nations campaign with a win against france in paris this afternoon. in half an hour — a look back at the best stories and interviews from this week's
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victoria derbyshire programme. in the last few minutes we've had reports coming into us that a man has been shot dead in streatham in south london. the metropolitan police have confirmed they are dealing with an incident and told people to avoid the area. it is believed to have happened on the high road in streatham. lambeth police have tweeted: officers are dealing with an incident in #streatham police are also saying: please avoid the area while the emergency services deal
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with the incident in #streatham we will bring you more on the story as we get it and we are hoping to have further details in the course of the next few minutes from our correspondence and from eyewitnesses at the scene. eleven more british nationals are being flown back to the uk from wuhan, the chinese city at the centre of the coronavirus outbreak. they were on a flight which touched down in the south of france. from there they will be brought back to this country for two weeks isolation. the latest figures from public health england show that no new cases of the virus have been confirmed in the uk, but the first confirmed death from coronavirus has been reported outside china in manila in the phillipines. the disease has now killed more than 300 people. danjohnson has the latest. in wuhan, at the centre of this outbreak, more people are making a move,
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trying to outrun the virus. a plane carrying 11 british citizens and french nationals is due to land shortly near marseilles. then they will continue on to the uk, arriving later this afternoon. we have just received a letter saying that one or two people who didn't make the original flight to actually on their way here today. in quarantine on the wirral, the original group of 83 are expecting new arrivals, but they will be monitored separately. it doesn't affect the period we will be in isolation. they have consulted with clinical experts to get the best advice on that. they will be given exactly the same support as us and they will have the same initial screening checks as well. the government rolled out these adverts this morning, offering advice on what to look out for and how to stop the virus spreading. the foreign secretary says more flights could follow, bringing back some of the estimated
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30,000 brits across china. the challenge we have got is to make sure that we can provide access back to the uk for those that need it, in cooperation with the chinese authorities. in relation to the flight on friday, that required not just the permission for the flight to go back, but permission to go through the roadblocks to get to the collection points. and we worked around the clock to make sure that those that wanted to get back could do so. in newcastle, a student from york and their relative are still being treated in isolation. they are the only two confirmed cases here so far. and in the philippines, there is the first evidence that as this virus reaches beyond china, death comes with it. a 44—year—old man from wuhan seems to have been infected before travelling and died after being admitted to hospital in manila. the woman he came with has also tested positive. back in wuhan, the massive new hospital authorities raced to build has opened in a week. it shows the scale of
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the response of this outbreak. but with more than 14,000 cases and over 300 deaths, the coronavirus is still far from being under control. dan johnson, bbc news. 0ur correspondent, danny savage is at arrowe park hospital on the wirral for us where medical teams are awaiting the arrival of the 11 extra people going in to quarantine. these two grey buildings behind me at arrowe park hospital on the wirral where 83 british people are in quarantine at the moment after arriving from wuhan in china on friday. now, they will be joined later today by 11 more british citizens and that second wave of arrivals was really always on the cards, because so many of them missed the flight initially on thursday. they have been scooped up by the french authorities, they are on that flight with many other nationalities, which will land in marseille this afternoon. we understand then they will be transferred on another flight into raf brize norton near 0xford and then brought by bus
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up here to merseyside to the wirral later today. similar to the operation which happened on friday. we also understand that once they arrive here, the 11 new arrivals will be kept separate from the 83 people already here in quarantine. so they will be in the same building, but kept separate from them. meanwhile in york, over on the other side of the pennines, the search is still under way for anybody who had close contact with the two confirmed cases of coronavirus here in the uk. they have been offered health advice once they have been traced and contacted. and of course, we also had the two people who did prove positive in the tests last week and they are still being treated in the infectious diseases department at the royal victoria infirmary in newcastle. but here on merseyside today, we are expecting those 11 other arrivals being flown from china back here to be put into quarantine. professorjohn ashton, who is a former regional director of public health in the north west of england,
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has been telling me the situation here calls for careful management. the dilemma that the nhs and public health england have is switching from command and control into public participation, which is now what is really needed here to avoid panic and to get the preventive measures in place if this virus really does arrive in the uk. you make the point about panic and, actually, people have been very calm and sensitive about this so far, but in terms of numbers and, if we start to have cases that emerge in the general population apparently out of nowhere, presumably that then becomes the stage which this becomes more complicated because then you are getting people... the problem then is the rumour mill starts to develop. at the moment we know where people have been, we can see the logic of why they have become infected. i think that is absolutely right. if you look at social media, as i was doing overnight, there seems to be quite an undercurrent of panic china and the conditions there where you have a distrust of central
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government makes it more difficult. that is why it is so important here to establish the good communications between public health, nhs and so on and the local populations. and i feel quite strongly that we are doing this too much from the centre at the moment. the local public health directors need to be more involved with this, because they know their local populations and they are trusted by the local populations. i'm afraid people don't trust london in the north of england or the south—west and the regions, and people certainly don't trust politicians on these kind of questions. and with the different groups who are coming back, we have been talking today about the people who have come back on the french plane and coming from france now and then onwards if necessary to the wirral, this check in every stage to see if they have developed symptoms, presumably then the health authorities have to have options
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to actually take away people and isolate them, as it were, separately from other people who may not be showing any symptoms but add in quarantined on a precautionary basis. yes, and i'm not party to what those arrangements are. i'm sure the medical director at arrowe park would be able to tell you what those arrangements are. because that is a clinical matter. but they will have them. i think we have robust clinical and laboratory arrangements in here. i don't worry too much about that. what i really do worry about, though, is engaging with communities. think about the 1500 people, apparently, who have come back from wuhan in the last couple of weeks. a lot of those will be chinese, originally chinese, or chinese families, and probably have gone back to chinese communities within the uk, and the people who know how to engage with those will be the local directors for public
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health and their teams, and that is what needs to happen here. the foreign secretary dominic raab has said britain is seeking a canada—style trade agreement with the european union which would mean not having to follow eu rules and regulations. the prime minister will set out his negotiating position with brussels in a speech tomorrow. here's our political correspondent tom barton. gone with a bong on a gong. this was borisjohnson at 11pm on friday night. but while brexiteers celebrated, conversations about britain's relationship with the eu were far from over. before trade negotiations had even got under way, a row is breaking out over how closely britain's regulations on things like workers‘ rights should mirror those of the eu. the foreign secretary saying that following the eu's rules would defeat the point of brexit.
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we would expect to be treated, first of all, in the same way that countries are with the rest of the eu, like japan, like south korea, like canada, but also for the undertakings that the eu have made to be lived up to. so, i think it's more of a question of getting clarity at the outset. so, we are not going to be aligning with eu rules, that's not on the negotiating table. it's not even an issue of red lines. it's not even in the negotiating room. but while britain may now have left the club, european leaders insist we should still follow some of its rules. britain may want a deal similar to canada but, they say, there are some big differences. canada isn't the uk. you know, you're geographically part of the european continent, we share seas, we share airspace, and our economies are very integrated. one thing we feel very strongly in the european union is that if we are going to have tariff free, quota free trade with the uk, which is essentially what we have with canada on almost everything, then that needs to come with a level playing field.
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labour's shadow chancellor says keeping eu rules would be a good thing. all the european union are asking for is that, actually, we all agree upon which there are protections. of course, any country can go above those protections but we need a baseline of protections. 0n the one hand he is saying that there will be. 0n the other hand, now he is sabre rattling, saying that won't happen in the negotiations. but the brexit party leader, nigel farage, says britain should aim for the loosest possible trade deal. what they fear is a competitor on their doorstep. that terrifies them. of course, what we should be doing in our national interest is to make sure we are a competitor on their doorstep. at stake, the ease with which we can sell products and services to our nearest neighbours. expect some tough talk from both sides over the coming months. tom barton, bbc news. a little earlier, i asked our political correspondent, tom barton, if this was mere posturing.
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we are at the start of a negotiation. the government wants to sound tough. notjust for a british audience, but to try to persuade the other side of this negotiation that they mean what they say. it is going to be a very short timetable. the negotiations won't get properly under way until march because the eu, monday they are publishing their proposals for how they want negotiations to go forward, but they have to be signed off by the 27 remaining eu countries. that won't happen until march. we have ten months to do this. it's not very long. i think this is part of the government's attempts to try to get momentum moving behind their case. we were talking to david henning a little earlier and david is a former trade negotiator and he says that the bottom line everyone understands is that
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if we say we won't go for eu rules, we won't sell any products. cutting your nose despite your face is not going to happen. the bottom line is what rules you apply, to what things they apply, what areas you say you are not prepared to do it because you want to do something with somebody else, then those are the products that you will no longer sell or services you will no longer provide. that is presumably what makes it such a complicated business. it is not a one—size—fits—all deal. nobody is suggesting that the british government is saying that for this particular widget or that particular machine, we are not going to follow eu rules. it follows that if a manufacturer wants to sell something to europe, it has to abide by the regulations of the market they are selling into. what we're talking about here, the level playing field question, is the question of the stuff that sits around that. workers' rights, environmental regulations. there the government
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is saying, "look, you gave canada the exact deal we want and you haven't expected canada to sign up to any of these things, so why should you expect us?" in the last few minutes we've had reports coming into us that a man has been shot dead in streatham in south london. (00v)the the police say a man has been shot by armed officers and they are not confirming yet he is dead but they say that the incident and we have some pictures submitted by a member of the audience on social media now. they say the incident is terrorist related. a man has been shot dead by armed police officers in streatham in south london and lambeth is the borough of london. what you saw there was ambulances in attendance.
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we understand from eyewitnesses at the scene and one person has tweeted that there are roads closed. we also have witnesses saying they heard gunshots fired just after 2pm this afternoon. emergency services came to the scene. we understand that paramedics, although we are told that there is one fatality, we are waiting confirmation of this. we understand one man is dead after this incident on streatham high street and you can see how busy it is. anyone who knows the area will know it is very busy on a sunday afternoon. my high street is where it took place. 0ne afternoon. my high street is where it took place. one man is reported to be dead, but the paramedics, we are told, are treating two people at the scene. it is not clear who that second person is. it is not clear how they are connected to this incident. i will not speculate about that, all i will tell you is that we are told that two people are being treated at the scene. we separate
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that one person has been shot and they are believed to be dead. there are widespread reports they are dead. but that has not been confirmed by the metropolitan police. the police are saying is that this incident has been declared terrorist related. we will of course renew more on this as soon as we get it. we will be monitoring or social media and our correspondence duncan kennedy has been on his way to the scene and we will be getting him up and ready to report as soon as we can and as soon as it is safe to do so. a man has been shot, believed to be dead, and the police are saying it is terrorist related. armed police and paramedics are in attendance. you are watching bbc news and here are our headlines. there are reports of a man shot dead in streatham in south london. the 11 britons evacuated from wuhan in china have landed in france on their way to quarantine
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on the wirral. the prime minister lays out his demands for a post—brexit trade deal. in sport,... in sport, england kick—off their six nations campaign. they're playing a re—juvenated france who've ta ken the lead with an early try in paris. it's 10-0. novak djokovic wins a record—extending eighth australian open title, beating dominic thiem in a five—set thriller in melbourne. britain's joe salisbury won the men's doubles. and graeme mcdowell wins his first european tour event for six years. the northern irishman finished two shots clear in the saudi international. the result could to move him back into the world's top 50. the 2pm premier league kick—off between burnley and arsenal is goalless. we'll have a full round—up in an hour's time. let's return to the coronavirus outbreak, and as concern grows
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more on the incident in streatham in south london. according to the press association, they are reporting that a number of people were stabbed in this incident in streatham. that information has come to the press association from the metropolitan police. there is no indication of the numbers of people that have been involved in that might expend why more than one ambience was visible in the shots we showed you. a number of paramedic visible there. three or four together. presumably responding because of reports of a multiple stabbing. we know that one person has been shot. it is understood that that person is dead, although we are waiting for that to be confirmed. the metropolitan police have confirmed, though, they are dealing with an incident and have declared it terrorist related. it is believed to have happened on the high road in streatham, a busy part of south london. it is an urban high street.
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lots of shops and residential properties. because it is a sunday afternoon and it is not pouring with rain in london at the moment, it is pretty busy at that time of day. people in restaurants and bars along there too. coffee shops and all of there too. coffee shops and all of the usual mix. we are, in terms of the usual mix. we are, in terms of the detail, it is not by any means clear. you wouldn't expected to be this soon. it is normal that we have this soon. it is normal that we have this very varied picture of what is going on. it's looks we have an incident in which a number of people we re incident in which a number of people were attacked with a knife. it looks as though the armed police have responded to those attacks, a man has been shot, we have reports that that shooting was fatal. we do know that shooting was fatal. we do know that the paramedics who arrived and arrived in significant numbers and i counted at least four vehicles and they may have been more that weren't filmed, more than one person was being treated at the scene. if there
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we re being treated at the scene. if there were more than one person involved in attacking people and stabbing them, the implication of that would be that one of the people at. was being treated. we don't know that and we will find out more in the course of the details that are issued. 0ne course of the details that are issued. one of the things confirmed from the start by the police when they first told us about this incident was that while police were dealing with an incident, unspecified, people should avoid the area also clearly they don't want anyone rushing down to be gawp at the scene. for your own safety, obviously, they want people to keep away. they also want to simmer for thejob of away. they also want to simmer for the job of securing the area, gathering evidence, ensuring those affected have been given the treatment. that has to be the priority before they talk to us about what may be going on. provided they are not concerned that the incident hasn't been brought to an end. there is no suggestion it hasn't, but they are saying keep away until we know more about what
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is happening. in terms of the incident, and the instance we have had in london, we have had stabbings but not of being terrorist related. it has been a blight the city the number of young men being victims of knife crime and the number of people carrying knives routinely and there is huge pressure politically on the mayor of london and the work is doing and the work the police are doing and the work the police are doing to deal with the knife crime problem. this is in that of a category of violent incidents that we have had, sadly, all too many of in this country. that is what the police terrorist related, or otherwise act designed to terrorise the civilian population, often for a political purpose, although it may not be for a political purpose. there are lots of pay cases where it is initially declared terrorist related and then subsequently more information is disclosed and that information is disclosed and that information tends to be somebody who
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has severe mental health problems and that leads to violence. to some extent, a lot of flexibility has to be given to the police on something like this. because clearly they are trying to as it were, fight a situation as it develops. 0ften without much background. although sometimes, if they know who the person is involved, then that can clearly be pa rt person is involved, then that can clearly be part of that. i am told that we have... no, a witness. a witness says they were walking to the shops when she saw helicopter activity and she also saw a lot of amulet is nearby and was seeing the aftermath. a lot of armed police and a p pa re ntly aftermath. a lot of armed police and apparently up to ten of those emergency vehicles. let's talk now to our correspondence than johnson who is with me. dan, tell us what we know so far. we know there were reports of shots being fired on streatham high street. this is suburban and a shopping street,
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quite a busy place in south london a few miles out of central london but still a very built up a busy area and the sort of place that would be particularly busy on a sunday at the weekend with shoppers, people out there. gunshots reported therejust after tpm. we have seen videos on social media that show a big police response in that area and lots of armed police response vehicles covering the street there. blocking traffic, surrounding a certain area of the shops. we have heard about a helicopter, at least one police helicopter, at least one police helicopter flying overhead. helicopter, at least one police helicopterflying overhead. there are videos and pictures on social media that show a group of armed police officers, slump in —— some in plainclothes. 0ne police officers, slump in —— some in plainclothes. one man is lane on the pavement and that looks like the man that the police have confirmed is dead. they say a man has been shot dead. they say a man has been shot dead by armed officers in streatham, police statement said that at this stage it is believed a number of people had been stabbed. and again, there are reports on social media
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saying they have seen people injured who had stabbings. it says the circumstances of this incident are still being assessed, but it has been declared a terrorist incident. that is why we have seen such a huge police response. the sort of response that, let's be honest, the police are now getting used to. if they call a terrorist incident and they call a terrorist incident and they know there is someone with a weapon who is causing injuries to people, it is quite a well rehearsed routine in which the full back—up arrives. these leaves, armed response vehicles, they are always on alert and always driving around london. the target is to get to this sort of incident within five minutes. it is an ambitious target, but one they... it looks like they we re but one they... it looks like they were on the scene very quickly and if this was the man that was causing the injuries, they have been able to challenge him, to take him on and it looks like he has been killed by the police. whether there was anyone else involved, we don't know. and thatis else involved, we don't know. and that is something we will get more information on. for now they have to
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ta ke information on. for now they have to take the precaution to only release information when they know who is involved. i remember the westminster bridge attack and the man who got into houses of parliament and they lock the place down for 12 hours. they had to be certain that in the case of one person, no one else had slipped into the building and it wasn't just a slipped into the building and it wasn'tjust a diversion. one thing we can take from this and we are now an hourand oran we can take from this and we are now an hour and or an hour and a half from from this incident and people had were told to stay in shops and there was a degree of lockdown in that area. but we have seen photos and videos of paramedics coming into the area to treat those in the area and that is something we wouldn't necessarily see if the police thought there was an active threat. the suggestion, not confirmed by the police, from what we are seeing on the ground is that think they probably have tackled the person that was the threat and they have limited the main threat and are able to treat those who have been affected. we don't know how many people have been injured, how many
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casualties or to what degree they entries are. but people on the ground saying that they saw people with stab wounds and that is confirmed by the police. a number of people have been stabbed in this incident. still a lot of work to do to treat those people and work out exactly who this man was and what he was doing there, and whether there was doing there, and whether there was anybody else involved in any sort of planning and preparation they may have been for this attack, if that is what it is. max dan, thank you for now. we are getting information from memos of the public because of social media and we are getting a lot of detail coming through. small amounts, but individually, when you click the rebuild is up, it actually comes through quite quickly these days from the police in terms of what they have put on their information via their twitter feed which is an invaluable source for journalists via their twitter feed which is an invaluable source forjournalists in knowing when incidents of this kind happened. a man has been shot by armed officers in streatham. at this stage, it is believed a number of people have been stabbed. within the last 15 minutes or so they tweeted
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this. the circumstances are being assessed. the incident has been declared as terrorist related. it is common sense to say this, but worth being explicit, the police don't have some magic secret world in which they know exactly who has caused it and what has caused. they ta ke caused it and what has caused. they take a precautionary call. it is strongly not a domestic incident. u nless strongly not a domestic incident. unless they know and have identified a suspect, and then have made the connection, they say the man has been involved in a terrorist incident. all of these things have to be taken with a degree of precaution. but you also know that you have a number of officers out on the street and are armed. vehicles, people injured, somebody stabbed and shot. people want to know quickly as possible for their own safety and curiosity. we are told that as well as the helicopter presents, the police have a helicopter to allow
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them to film and actually get an aerial view to deploy officers accordingly. there were up to ten vehicles from the london ambulance service. 0nly vehicles from the london ambulance service. only by the look of it aromatic vehicles that there is paltry and little doing as well. paramedic vehicles get there quicker and there are the ambulances behind what looks like a bus which has presumably been stopped because the police want to block the roads. again, to try to contain the incident to show they have got any assailant and by also closing the roads, they are able to ensure that they have the vehicles access, which may be required to get casualties to hospital. because of paramedic training, it is heavily possible to treat people at the scene and to treat people at the scene and to treat them, you know, to quite a good degree at the scene without the risk of moving them to hospital, evenin risk of moving them to hospital, even in central london. hospitals are even in central london. hospitals a re often even in central london. hospitals are often some distance from the scene. that at least give them that
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flexibility, the police helicopter and if necessary, the air ambulance, which can also be deployed in these situations, and can also be used. those resources are available 24—hour is an 70s a week across london and that is one of the benefits of living in the capital city. people often have the opportunity within this part of london to have some experience of things like training. a lot of companies now, even shops in the mag and businesses, will train their staff about lockdown is on the importance of lockdown is. we had an incident here about a year or so ago at the bbc where we were in lockdown because of an incident reported at the tube station at oxford circus. it was a false alarm when somebody falls they had heard a gunshot. the message got around very quickly to engage in a lockdown and that was a precautionary move. again, that is the precaution people are now taking.
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we now get a much betterflavour, if you like, of this moment in london just after the shooting. you see that the scale of the response, delilah parried a mick —— the line of paramedic cars. it is the case that a number of people may have been stabbed and they may not be clear how many casualties they are dealing with. the automatic responses to get as many paramedics there as quickly as possible so they are able to treat as many casualties as they may be. it may even be have been able to get more paramedics are needed. we don't really have even a suggestion from people on the ground come of exactly how many people have been stabbed. if this is one of the sort of marauding attacks that we have seen in the past, it may be the case that this attacker has moved down the street, may have stabbed more than one person in more than one place. it could be spread over a bit of the high street. that might
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be why we have seen the police taking over quite a large portion of that street. you can see it is quite a large area that the police are operating over. wherever the incident ends may not be where necessarily started and that can mean there are casualties spread over a bit of an area for paramedics to identify and to deal with. we don't have any word on the severity of the injuries sustained by members of the injuries sustained by members of the injuries sustained by members of the public yet. all we know is that one man has been shot dead by police and the pictures we have seen on social media, pictures that i don't think we will be shown because some of them are too graphic, but they do show a body laid on the pavement surrounded by armed officers. there is a bit of video that shows armed officers having shot this man presumably but they're not approaching him straight being quite cautious about approaching the man laid on the pavement which possibly suggests that they had cause to think there may be another threat potentially in terms of...m
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is often difficult in those situations when you talk to people afterwards, festival, they don't... somebody has been stabbed before anyone has realised what is going on and then it has moved on. they often don't know if it is one person, several people. lots of people moving around, is that the assailant, is there more than one assailant, is there more than one assailant or group confusion. i'm sure it is. some of these incidents are caught on video by people courting it in the confusion is what hits you. people don't know what is happening, if it is some sort of row between people who know each other ora between people who know each other or a random attack. if they have reduced that it is something that may be a threat to them, it is then a question of where is the threat coming from, where can i go to make myself safe, which is that direction which is safe to go in, and that is what the police face as well. it was the attacker, who is threatening people, who are the injured people
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who need attention, who should be considered safe and who should be considered safe and who should be considered a threat? they are operating in an open environment where people things are changing all the time. it is a very difficult scene. it is the type of incident, sadly, which they are, to degree, getting used to dealing with. it seems to be happening with a degree of regularity which means the procedures are quite well laid out and quite well rehearsed. they practice for this regularly, and there team circulating around london all the time, armed police and paramedics, who can respond. the last incident we had was close to london bridge whether guy had been in the training course. the man was ultimately shocked. i remember that footage. when you saw the footage, how quickly the incident unfolded
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but how quickly it was brought to an end. over in a matter of minutes. in that case, due in large part to the intervention of the members of the public who worked out what was going on and had the bravery to tackle an attacker. we don't know if that sort of thing has happened in this case. we don't really know exactly how this started yet, how it unfolded. there is one picture i have seen on social media that shows a white van parked across the road at a strange angle. that could be part of this or maybe not. from the previous attack, there was also a white van parked at a strange angle and itjust turned out to be a fun driver trying to get out to be a fun driver trying to get out of the traffic. you can sometimes be mist led. —— eight van driver. —— you can sometimes be misled. this can all be over very quickly and the police can tha nkfully quickly and the police can thankfully respond to these things within a matter of minutes these
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things which... the practicalities now, the most important priorities are dealing with the assailant and preventing them continuing their attack, but then it has got to be the treatment of the injured. absolutely. that is why we have seen that liner paramedic has heading down the high street to give care and medical attention to as many people as needed. as i have said, perhaps looking over a degree of distance down the street may take some time to work out where everybody is and how badly injured they are. getting them to hospital might not be easy because this is because the traffic problem. it is a main road heavily populated by traffic which has now been blocked. it looks like the immediate heat has gone out of this incident. things
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are not any further in lockdown, apparently. it looks like police have control of the situation and are able to start dealing with it and giving that care but still a lot of work for them to do. let's find out more. stephan powell is stuck in his apartment. it is that the top of my road where the incident happened and there have been armed police everywhere. they are evacuating the streets and telling local residents to stay inside saying there was a terrorist —related incident. since then, as well as the helicopters which have been flying around, you can see plainclothes police officers are patrolling the streets and making sure people are staying inside. as we are speaking, i think some people are being let through. there has been a strong police
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presence, armed police right the way down to plainclothes officers. it has been a bit of a shock to people locally. what sort of timing? we have told a little after 2pm. does that fit with your recollection? yes. i got back from five aside football. my wife came back and tell me to go outside and that is when we could start to get a sense. i would say about 2pm is when things started, people realising something major was happening. it is a busy high street, lots of stores that people are used to do on a sunday busy with shoppers, people going to cafe them stuff. for it to be in complete lockdown has been a big surprise for people locally. it is not something you would expect in a sleepy suburb like streatham. how are the police communicating? where
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there announcements coming from the street being shouted out from the helicopter? they were quite forceful because of the severity of the issue. that is when you could get a sense, being on the ground, just how serious it was with how direct the instructions were from the armed policeman. they were gradually working everybody off the street. not quite shouting but very forcefully telling people to move down the street and not to go into their homes. —— to go into their homes. as we are talking now, i am looking out of my window, there are two plain clothes officers with armed fests walking up and down the street making sure that nobody is leaving their houses and taking control of the situation. my neighbour tried to leave, i don't think he realised what was going on, about five minutes ago, and they told him to turn around and go back inside. they are still looking after
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the situation but things have calmed down compared to earlier. did you see any indication of any of the emergency vehicles leaving? is there any sign that people are being taken to hospital? i canjust about any sign that people are being taken to hospital? i can just about see the flashing lights are still there but you can see from the pictures on the screenjust but you can see from the pictures on the screen just how but you can see from the pictures on the screenjust how many ambulances and paramedics were there. i think there has been some movement but there has been some movement but there are still emergency vehicles in the area at the moment. there will be some movement but it is difficult to say exactly what is going on. the road hasn't reopened or anything like that at the moment? they have had a few pedestrians that have left who were away when this has happened, they have been let back into the area to go immediately to their homes but there is no traffic, things are not moving like
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they would be normally. more police have just turned up outside our flat here now. they are having a big discussion and looking at what to do. the only movement at the moment, i would say, our police and emergency services. thank you very much. stephan powell there in streatham from bbc news beat giving us an streatham from bbc news beat giving us an update from the scene. chris is former head of the national security council and he joins us on the line. thank you to speaking to us. what are your observations?m looks very similar to what we saw on london bridgejust a looks very similar to what we saw on london bridge just a few months ago. we can only hope that the police have dealt with it fully now and that it have dealt with it fully now and thatitis have dealt with it fully now and that it is one person acting alone and the police have dispatched him. it appears they have taken that action not only because of the stabbing but because potentially he was wearing something strapped to him which could easily have been a
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bomb. a precautionary approach, they cannot take any risk if somebody is stupid enough to wrap themselves up like that and threatening to do something with it. you have to presume it is live and has the potential to cause death and injury. you might guess, and if anybody is in with a few feet of that person and it is and it goes off, then those people are likely to be seriously injured or killed. police officers are not going to take any chances. if they have firearms, they will deal with it in that way. thank goodness they do because it will save other people's lives if they are holding a bomb. for anyone who has just joined are holding a bomb. for anyone who hasjustjoined us, reports of a multiple stabbing. armed police deployed. armed police shot dead a man and they are now dealing with the consequences of the scene. can you help us with the context of this. i am always impressed by how quickly the response happens with
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incidents of this kind. for want of a better word, they have become more polished is unfortunately more of these incidents have happened over these incidents have happened over the last few years. how is the presence maintained? the last few years. how is the presence maintained ? are the last few years. how is the presence maintained? are we talking about having officers, counterterrorism officers on standby just in case? the way the police in the uk have gone about this, and it is proving at the moment to be an extremely effective one, is not by arming all police officers with guns but to have highly trained... you can really highly trained people if you haven't got too many of them. those officers are in patrolling vehicles. they look like normal police cars to all intents and purposes but they will have lots of firearms on them and will be able to deal with these sorts of incidents. they have also got counterterrorism units available at short notice who
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will respond and react to any incident like this. the police in this country have done really well, i think. i this country have done really well, ithink. i know this country have done really well, i think. i know streatham very well, i used to police it. it is not in central london so it is not in the area of westminster where you would expect to see lots and lots of firearms officers, but it is still shown, it appears, that the police response was really good and the police response has dealt with the threat very quickly. that is exactly what we want from our police officers. they are doing a brilliant job. unfortunately, there will a lwa ys job. unfortunately, there will always be a time before those officers get to the scene and that is the time when it is at its most dangerous. the police officers have dispatched us, by the looks of it, quite rightly if he's carrying anything that looks like a bomb. quite rightly if he's carrying anything that looks like a bombm terms of that policing presence, not all officers armed with the right officers armed, in terms of being
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able to deploy, how difficult is it ina able to deploy, how difficult is it in a city like london which is so built up, i mean, we know the difficulties of and and —— ofan —— of an ambulance getting through with the traffic, how do you deal with the traffic, how do you deal with an developing terrorist situation? this is one of the things that information from the public is so important to tell police exactly what is happening. police officers now will know where their resources are so you can keep armed response vehicles in certain locations to make sure that they are able to respond very quickly across london. but of course london is huge. it goes right out to croydon and it is an enormous area. the numbers of police officers in these units has grown quite rightly because just a
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couple of minutes extra to respond could result in more people and lots of people being killed. so great news from the police response. terrible news that we have had to face another one of these attacks. we have got the poor victims who have faced someone stabbing them with a knife. yes, it is that grim thought. this kind of thing comes out of nowhere. you're walking down the street minding your own business, enjoying a pleasant sunday afternoon, and suddenly you find yourself in the middle of something. it is quite difficult, sometimes, for people to process and be useful to police in telling them what they have seen and heard. every minute counts. it will still take minutes to get to the cool and those minutes can feel like ours if you are dealing with someone who has got a knife or a gun. good news that the
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public got the message through quickly. i hope not too many people have been injured by this man. at least the police have dealt with it very quickly. it seems we will be faced, across the world, with idiots like this who seem to think this is a good idea. i think it will shine a light on the criminaljustice system and who we have got out of our prisons in the community who are a danger to us. i'm not trying to make a political point but i will raise it anyway, now we are out of the european union, what impact does that have on our information sharing? it was a highly contentious issue during the process of brexit. has that now been resolved? do we know how we stand? i'll be in a situation where nothing has changed and will not change? 0r situation where nothing has changed and will not change? or do we not know what will change? we don't know what will change at the moment. certain things like european arrest wa rra nts certain things like european arrest warrants will have to be renegotiated at some way, or maybe
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not. you can't bring back —— you can't blame brexit for this. in the future, we have got to understand that movement of people across countries, through countries, we love it, we love the fact we can go to certain places and the checks are minimal but that is also a brilliant thing for criminals, terrorists and others. as we saw in france a few yea rs others. as we saw in france a few years ago, we saw a terrorist running around killing people in paris and then ended up being arrested in belgium. boarders have a reason and passport checks because you don't want to do is allow really bad people to come into your communities. chris phillips, former head of the national counterterrorism security office. thank you very much for speaking with us. we will speak to you a little later if we have more information. we are having
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difficulty getting information at the moment. let me bring you an update with dan johnson. the moment. let me bring you an update with danjohnson. dan, armed police deployed to deal with somebody apparently attacking people, as far as we can tell, at random with a knife. yes or some sort of bladed implement. policing a number of people have been stabbed some sort of weapon involved in this terror attack, as they are treating it. we do not know who this man was or what his motivation may have been. we do not really know the circumstances in which this incident started. when he came from, why he chose a normal in a london shopping street. this is not a high—profile target, this is not a big building, a well—known landmark in the middle of london, this isjust a regular busy high street. it's not too far out of london. why there? why now? who has been stabbed? these are all
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questions that have yet to be answered. there are reports on social media that may be three or four people have been caught up in this. they are now receiving treatment from the paramedics. nothing about the condition of those? not at this stage. we do not know how badly injured anyone is. we don't know if they are being treated at the scene or taken to hospital. you would presume they would go off to hospital if it is stab injuries but the first priority is to get paramedics there and get people treated on the scene. we have seen the videos of that happening, the large number of paramedic because they were able to get to the scene very quickly. london ambulance service issued a very short statement saying" we have a number of resources attending an incident in streatham high road, more information will follow." quite a quick response from the armed police officers to deal with the immediate threat. it looks like they have been able to deal with that by shooting a man dead in the street. there are
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pictures on social media of a man's body laid in the pavement with armed officers surrounding it. there is a video which shows there is officers pointing their weapons at that man's body on the pavement but not immediately approaching the man. they seem to have some degree of caution before approaching him. that might be picking up on the concern that he had something on him which could have been a suicide vest. indeed. that is a sort of thing we have seen previously. police are trying to be very wary of that. there are closer pictures on social media that do suggest that there was something wrapped around that man's waste which would have caused the police concern. that is probably why they shot first and then gradually approached the body. we don't know if there was anybody else involved. it looks like, from pictures at the scene, that the immediate panic is over, but police have been telling people to stay inside shops, to keep themselves safe. they have told some people to stay in their homes but
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then apparently there are reports that other buildings have been evacuated by the police and people have been told to get out and move down the street. quite a confusing picture on the ground. it is possible if people think he came from a particular building, they might be worried about what he might have done in the building before he came out. indeed. they'll be trying to build up a picture of who the man is as quickly as possible. has he travelled? did is as quickly as possible. has he travelled ? did he is as quickly as possible. has he travelled? did he travel in his own vehicle? are there more weapons or anything more sinister that needs to be dealt with? who has he been in touch with the day, yesterday, previous weeks? is this something that has just happened out of the blue or has it been planned? what communication has there been? all sorts of lines of inquiry for the police now go down. that is the immediate investigative work that will be going on. there are a whole range of things that the officers need to do having initially
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eliminated the threat. the priority to treat those who have been caught in this who have been injured and stabbed and now receiving treatment from the london ambulance service. there was a police helicopter overhead flying above the scene. that would be part of trying to contain the incident, checking if there was anybody else involved and getting a good vantage point to see exactly how spread out this incident may be. we don't know if any medical helicopters have been involved. if there are people with serious injuries who need to get to hospital quickly, that will be the sort of thing they would bring in to deal with that. not always easy in central london because where can you land a helicopter? we don't know if thatis land a helicopter? we don't know if that is the sort of resource they are using. armed police still on the street and large numbers of paramedics involved as well. thank you very much. let's get an update from the police. this is coming from the metropolitan police to confirm a man has been shot. this is from
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twitter. the man who is carrying out the attack. we have more detail on this attack. we have more detail on this attack. poor dan was having to keep talking with me with my head under the desk trying to sort out which computer to use. we have two computers and some information goes to one computer and others to the other. this is an update from the press association. a 19—year—old student, 19 from stretton. he says that he was at the scene. he spoke toa that he was at the scene. he spoke to a reporterfrom that he was at the scene. he spoke to a reporter from the press association. he said he was crossing the road when he saw a man with a machete and silver canisters on his chest being chased by what assumed was an undercover police officer. as they were in civilian clothing. the man was then shot and he thinks he
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heard three gunshots. he retreated to the library for safety. from the library he watched ambulances and police officers arrive at the scene. dan, that witness account, we have to a cce pt dan, that witness account, we have to accept him and his word. that was outside boots on the high street. let's pause and have a look at some of the latest pictures we have from the scene. sirens wail. it looks like the incident is around that vehicle. whether that is a police vehicle, given it has emergency flashes on that. you can see somebody pointing a gun there. an undercover police officer, we
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assume. it looks they are using the vehicle to shelter behind. what can you draw from that? there is a mixture here of undercover police armed units who turn up in dark has. when they get out, they are still dressed in civilian clothing but holding a weapon. in the confusion ofa holding a weapon. in the confusion of a terrorist incident... that is quite scary. indeed. but there are armed units in there as well. i don't know if that tells us anything of the nature of the incident. it is possible that if police think they have a suspect they are following that they would do that with undercover units and then if they think that is developing into an immediate threat, that is when undercover unit stepped in as an emergency step to stop someone. that could potentially be what has happened and then other uniformed,
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marked units have come in. in a few seconds we see them coming in cautiously. it could be that they we re cautiously. it could be that they were just the nearest. three or four approaching presumably the body of the man who has been shot. it was interesting what the student was saying in the quote to the press association about seeing a man with a machete and silver canisters on his chest. yes, people have reported that at least a knife was used in this attack and we know people were stabbed. we were expecting details of some sort of weapon. if he is saying he saw a machete then it sounds like this was a preplanned, deliberate incident. it is not the kind of thing you would just carry casually. it is not a casual knife to carry, even on a self defence bases. you would think not. this points to deliberate attack with a
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weapon to do people harm. if there we re weapon to do people harm. if there were canisters strapped to his body, that lends itself to... were canisters strapped to his body, that lends itself to. .. exactly what the police would fear. whether that isa the police would fear. whether that is a real threat or something that is a real threat or something that is designed to look like it, instill fear in members of the public or to try and hold the police back, it then, something we have seen in previous attacks where there was a fa ke previous attacks where there was a fake suicide belt but it has an impact in terms of the way members of the public and police respond. the real impact is not that it keeps the police away, is that their approaches shoot to kill. that is an immediate threat that needs to be taken out immediate threat that needs to be ta ken out instantly. immediate threat that needs to be taken out instantly. that appears to be what has happened. the police have confirmed the man has been pronounced dead. there was no second chance, it appears. we don't know what the confrontation will have been between police and the man shot dead. if they believe he was a terrorist attack and he was wearing something that looks like a suicide belt, the procedure is that you aim
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at their head and shoot to kill, eliminate the threat as quick as possible before any more harm is done to any more people. it is a judgment that officers have to make within seconds if not less. let's look again at what the police are saying online. their twitterfeed is the best source at the moment. 0nce a police are confident they can talk to us, we will get some sort of statement and some sort of news conference later in the afternoon. it started out being lambeth police because it was a local matter, now it will be counterterrorism. this will have gone to the town highest level within the met police because they declared it quickly a terrorist incident. it gets the full range of the met police response in terms of resources and how it is handled and investigated. the latest update on the twitter feed is" we believe
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there are two injured victims and we await updates on their conditions. the statement he says the scene has been fully contained and we will issue more information when possible. as we thought, it looks like the immediate panic and threat has been dealt with very quickly by the police. they fled the area with as many offices as they can get there as quickly as possible to take out any immediate threat and then to try and make people safe and to check that there isn't any further threat, because you never know with this kind of thing whether there is more than one attacker. that is a sort of thing that has been their immediate priority to deal with the man. check the area, who might have been injured and who else might have been injured and who else might have been involved. that is where they we re been involved. that is where they were put the helicopter in. the police now saying in the last minute that they have been able to do that and that the cd is fully contained.
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