tv Beyond 100 Days BBC News February 3, 2020 7:00pm-8:00pm GMT
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you're watching beyond 100 days live from des moines iowa, where democrats are nervous ahead of their first election vote. their number one concern is to beat donald trump in november — so will tonight's poll tell us who has the best chance of doing so? there are a lot of candidates, a lot of money has been spent, the polls are tight and the stakes are high. so what is a caucus anyway? think of it as part political cocktail party — part strategic game of risk. a veteran organizer gives us a run—through. is the bit where i start saying, come to me, i have ben and gerry's? or is this the bit where i take to sam, you are not viable, but if you join me, the two of us could be
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viable. also on the programme... after the attack in south london yesterday by sudesh amman, the second by a man convicted of terror offences in recent months. the government announces emergency changes to the law on sentencing. china's party leadership admits failure is in its response to the corona virus epidemic. the number of cases is doubling every five days. hello and welcome to des moines, iowa, in the mid west of the usa where christian and i are ahead of tonight's caucuses. swamped with candidates, journalists, politicaljunkies and an awful lot of campaign money. tomorrow, they'll all be gone, moving on to the next election deadline. but for tonight des moines iowa is ground zero in america's political world. iowa is important because it's first — not first because it's important. it's sparsely populated, overwhelmingly white, doesn't even send many delegates
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to the national convention but it matters. it matters because all the candidates know that if they do well here, they get a lot of media attention, and more importantly, a lot of money. here's nick bryant. the road to the white house passes first through iowa, one of the more rural states of america, one of the whitest states in america. but since the turn of the century, the democrat who has won here has gone on to become the party's presidential nominee. the next president of the united states... the front runner here is a 78—year—old senator feted like a pop idol by the young. bernie sanders is a one—time socialist who believes radicalism is the only way to defeat donald trump, a political revolution of the left. no other candidate in iowa has pulled a crowd as big as this. let us go forward together. let us defeat donald trump.
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cheering let us transform this country. the former vice president, joe biden, is a soft jazz sort of candidate, easy listening moderation that appeal especially to the old. eight years of donald trump could fundamentally change who we are. i really mean it, in a significant way. he's an uninspiring speaker but comes alive when face—to—face. how are you? great to see you. genial, empathetic, he reckons likeability means electability. and he's selling himself as the candidate best able to beat president trump. mr biden, a quick word for the bbc. the bbc — i'm irish. senator elizabeth warren was sat all last week in the trial of donald trump, so no wonder she's keen to make up for lost campaigning time. she's another candidate of the left, another woman trying to shatter the most resilient glass ceiling in politics. this moment is our moment to dream
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big, fight hard and win. and pete buttigieg wants to become america's first openly gay occupant of the white house. he's the youngest candidate in the race. for the past 60 years, it's been moderate democrats who've made it to the white house — kennedy, johnson, carter, clinton and obama. but in these changed political times, when normal rulesjust don't seem to apply, will voters here opt for the radicalism of bernie sanders? it's a battle for the soul of the party, over who is the best candidate to beat donald trump. nick bryant, bbc news, iowa. the latest polls show a very, very tight race in iowa with senator bernie sanders and former vice presidentjoe biden at the front of the pack. (gfx)the is a look at the real clear politics — poll of polls —
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and while bernie sanders looks like he has an advantage — that doesn't mean he's end the night with the most delegates. erin murphy is a journalist covering iowa politics and government — and hejoins us now. you've been travelling round the state for the past year with these candidates. when you talk to iowa voters, what is their main concern? you talk about issues of the environment coming up a lot, but the main concern is finding the right candidate that they believe will beat donald trump in the fall. that is the primary concern, the number one motivating factor. the thing about that is, it's a personal choice, and that means something different to everyone. it is not health care, immigration, jobs and the economy this time? you hear a lot of talk about that and candidates ask about it. they want to hear about those policies, but the number one driving factor
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ultimately leading these people to pick a candidate is who can be donald trump. katty is an old—timer, and this is my first time, it is so local, which is refreshing. the rest of the campaigns are about how much money you have, but here, you get real, genuine face time with candidates. they talk about iowa is the first state in the nominating process. the people who defend iowa's role in that say, you have to come here and you can't just throw that say, you have to come here and you can'tjust throw up a bunch of money on tv ads. people here expect to see you in person and multiple times. the old joke is, i haven't made up my mind yet, i've only seen each of the candidates twice. the expectation is you have to come here, sit in the coffee shops and libraries and schools and talk to
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people face—to—face. libraries and schools and talk to people face-to-face. as christian so diplomatically put it, i am a vetera n diplomatically put it, i am a veteran of iowa caucuses. i sense less energy and enthusiasm in this round, more less energy and enthusiasm in this round , more nervousness. less energy and enthusiasm in this round, more nervousness. you less energy and enthusiasm in this round, more nervousness. you put it right. there is interest and enthusiasm in the party, but you are right, there is concern, and that gets back to my point of the primary motivating factor for these iowa democrats. they don't want to mess this up. you talk to a lot of people, they are still undecided, even today, going into the caucuses. that's the amazing thing about tonight, there are so many outcomes here. there are three or four candidates who could finish top, but tomorrow, some of those could be facing questions about whether they are going to drop out. if anyone tells you they know what is happening tonight, they are lying, either intentionally or because they don't know better. it could go any number of different ways. anyone of
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them could win and they all have a ground game to do it. it isjust about that choice you talked about. that has really heightened the sta kes that has really heightened the stakes in this for them. erin murphy, honest enough to tell us he does not know what will happen tonight. thank you forjoining us. shall we talk about where we are? will we see any of the candidates here tonight? no, we will see lots of american television. all of the networks will be broadcasting from here, and up on the screen behind us, there will be all of the results as they come through. the caucusing takes place elsewhere, and the candidates have victory or commiseration parties. it's confusing. caucusing is confusing. it's not like voting. you don'tjust turn up and tick a box. think of it as a political cocktail party, without the cocktails, mixed with a ruthless game of risk. caucus goers enter their facility, a school gym or a church hall, stand in the area marked off for their preferred candidate and then get counted.
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so long as a candidate has 15% of the people in the room, they are considered viable. but if they fall short of 15%, they are not viable, and that's when the tactical back and forth gets going. oh, and caucusing is public, so everyone knows who you're voting for. to help you understand this pretty unique exercise in democracy, we enlisted the support of veteran caucus organizer tom fey.
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let's say you are viable, ok? yeah. but katty and sam are in the wind. what do we do? is this the bit where i start saying, come on over here, katty, i've got ben and jerry's? absolutely. is this the bit where i say to sam, luke, sam, you're not viable, but if you join me, the two of us together, we could be viable? you come to me, sam. don't go to him, he's already fine. yeah, but i'm going to the white house, so why don't you come over here? but we are more aligned on policy, sam. you like what i do. sam, i think you should come to us, for sure. we are right on all the issues that are important to america. i'm not picking between parents, so i'm going... i'm going with tom. thank you so much. you made a wise decision. so, this means that i'm left, tom, and i'm not viable. i know. so it isjust the two of you groups now. you need to think about, long and hard, which candidate's the best candidate for your ideas. well, obviously, that's an easy choice. i'm joining tom, too. where are you going? see, now we are more powerful than you. team spirit! the key to this is, it shows a real... it proves to the public in iowa
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and across the country which candidate has the best organisation for grassroots politics, and that's where it's at — shoe leather on the ground. and you can't beat the iowa caucus for that. by by the way, we won. yeah, ok! what i didn't realise until i had spoken to one of our correspondence today is that if you've got a really good ground game, you could lend some of your people to one of the candidates to lock in their supporters, so let's say third need supporters and you lent her a few? iowa is famous for that kind of tactical shenanigans, if you want to call them that, and a lot of horse trading goes on at that time when
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candidates are not viable. it is fun going, because you get the initial round, and then everybody is walking around saying, hey, come with me. the issue with it being an open thing, i have had caucus goers saying, i wanted to caucus for so—and—so, but my son's basketball coachis so—and—so, but my son's basketball coach is caucusing for someone else, soi coach is caucusing for someone else, so i want to curry favour with the coach. it is like a preferential vote system. you have your preferred candidate, second and third candidates, and you going on the night and see what looks viable. in other news, the uk government has promised fundamental changes to the way that they deal with convicted terrorists following yesterday's knife attack in south london. a 20—year—old man was shot dead by police after he stabbed two people with a stolen knife and a fake bomb strapped to his body. he had only recently been released from prison halfway through a term he was serving for possession of terrorist documents and the spreading of terrorist propaganda.
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do the programmes work, or is there a lwa ys do the programmes work, or is there always a risk that the most dangerous men game the system? the government said it would stop automatic release of offenders halfway through their sentences. here is lucy manning, who has been taking a look. this unfortunately is not the first time. the high street, forensic teams, police investigating an attack, a former prisoner using his freedom to try and kill. yesterday, it was streatham. plainclothed officers, guns drawn, have shot a man after he steals a knife and start stabbing others. they have had sudesh amman under surveillance, so more officers quickly arrive, one on a motorbike. one of the armed officers
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approaches him as he lies on the ground wearing a fake suicide vest. get back, they shout. a surveillance officer uses his armed colleagues for cover. they start to clear the street. people rush to help the injured, blood on the pavement. start moving backwards, very quickly please. a man and a woman were stabbed, both are recovering. a shopkeeper was running out and shouting he had stolen something. then it happened really quickly, lots of people running and then we heard three bangs. i heard two shots. i noticed the policemen had guns on them. the third police officer
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was next to his side and bleeding. and all i could think was, he is going to die in the middle of the streets. sudesh amman had only been released from prison ten days ago, automatically let out halfway through his three—year sentence for terrorism offenses. he pledged allegiance to islamic state and had manuals about knife attacks. amman lived at this bail hostel around a mile from the attack. because he was under active counterterror surveillance, the authorities thought he was possibly one of the most dangerous people in the country, so why was he living behind these gates, rather than behind bars? officers searched the hostel,
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removing evidence. the police stopped this attack but how will the politicians prevent it? new emergency laws. de—radicalising people is a very, very difficult thing to do. there is a big psychological barrier that people find it hard to get back over. and that's why i stress the importance of the custodial option. and that is why i have come to the end of my patience with the idea of automatic early release. they are let out of prison, but the public is not out of danger. we arejoined by an we are joined by an adviser on de—radicalisation policy. under the new legislation, terror prisoners would not be allowed to be released until they had served two thirds of
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their sentence, and they will have to appear before a parole board. do you think that will solve the problem? it might solve a bit of it, but i don't think it will solve the entire problem, because if this individual had completed his sentence, he would have been let out, and so what we saw in streatham at the weekend would have been delayed by a mere 18 months, so i think we have a problem with de—radicalisation, as the prime minister put it. we know this individual was intent on dying as a martyr, which involve killing innocent people, and so we do need to think much more radically than the government is currently thinking about how we deal with these people. we need a process of some form of positive vetting before they are allowed out, whether on parole or at the end of the sentence. there is clearly a big role here for the pa role clearly a big role here for the parole board. they have issued a
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statement tonight, saying they understand the government's plans. the independent parole board will not direct the release of an offender, they say, unless they are satisfied. what sort of people need to sit on that panel? not so much the people sitting on the panel, it's the education and training of that panel. what we need to appreciate is that at the moment all our programmes of de—radicalisation, and all our assessment procedures, are based on evidence—based research. that research is academic, largely from a psychology background, which is good, but it is not complete. we must also recognise a very important thing, which i don't think anyone has talked about so far, which is that this research based policy takes about four or five years before the evidence tra nslates five years before the evidence translates itself into policy. we know that terrorism is evolving. the threat we are discussing today didn't exist about 12 months ago, so
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we have to have a much fresher approach. we need to combine the policies which are based on academic research and civil society initiatives and add to that other skills such as those involving deception, people who practice deception, people who practice deception, involving security based threat analysis. all of those skills have to be transferred to the people that sit on the board so that they can makea that sit on the board so that they can make a much more accurate judgment of an individual‘s fitness to return to society. so, are there countries that are getting this right? countries we could learn things from? there are certainly countries that claim they are getting it right. whether they are or not is a different issue. de—radicalisation is very much context specific, and these programmes are context specific.
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some countries select people for de—radicalisation programmes, those that they believe can be de—radicalised, so they are eliminating a proportion of hard—core individuals eliminating a proportion of ha rd—core individuals anyway. eliminating a proportion of hard—core individuals anyway. and even where they do have successes, we need to learn from them, but i think we need to learn from them in context. what works in denmark and saudi arabia or singapore doesn't necessarily work in the uk. i come back to my point about the fact that it is an evolving threat, and the uk has very much been on the edge of the evolution of threat. you are based in the us. around 2006, 2007, i don't remember exactly when, white house officials contacted me to help them with a research programme, and them with a research programme, and the question was, in 2007, why is there a problem of home—grown radicalisation in the uk and europe and not in the us? of course, the us
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has moved on from that and recognises that it has a home—grown problem. at that time, it didn't. different countries evolve the threat differently, and the programmes are different. so, we really need to look at uk specific programmes, borrowing wherever possible from lessons abroad. doctor ashraf, thank you very much for that. more on the caucasus. erin was mentioning earlier the money that is involved in iowa. it has become an expensive proposition trying to win here. democratic contenders have spent $61 million on campaigning here. they are trying to win the support ofjust 170,000 here. they are trying to win the support ofjust170,000 caucus goers, and if you do the maths, they are spending on average $355 per voter. it is a lot, and to give it international context, compare it to the uk. in the 2017 election, all
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spending was around $54 million among all the parties. divide that by the 32 million votes cast, it was $1.67 per voter. bargain basement democracy! we arejoined by $1.67 per voter. bargain basement democracy! we are joined by a university of iowa professor of political science, tim hagel. is all the money worth it? well, we think so. i would challenge your maths a little bit. the 170,000 numbers you indicated is probably the number of democrats that turned out for the caucasus in 2016. the record is 240,000. we are expecting that to be broken tonight. it doesn't take away from your basic point, which is that it isa from your basic point, which is that it is a lot of money. but keep in mind that the money spent here in iowa doesn't just mind that the money spent here in iowa doesn'tjust stay in iowa. the media that followed the candidates around, they are going to be spreading that word to people in many other states as well, so it is
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not just concentrated many other states as well, so it is notjust concentrated here in iowa. a so, when it comes to november, when we get to the election itself, how much people will —— how much will people think back to iowa and remember what happened here? to an extent, it depends on what happens here. if it is a situation where the winner here in iowa up winning the nomination, people might remember that a little bit more. on the other hand, if the winner here isn't somebody that gets the nomination, they will say, ok, that's nice, the other states have had their say as well, and they choose someone else. it varies based on what the outcome is going to be. this time, with the democrats releasing three sets of numbers, it gives the opportunity for potentially more than one candidate to claim victory here in iowa. professor hegel, when you look at the democratic convention in july, when they go to milwaukee and all these different states vote for who they want, there were only 41 delegates from iowa, and to win the
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nomination, you need 1991. it is barely 1%. it is, and that is why some people have complained about iowa being a kingmaker. ourjob is to narrow the field to an extent. who are the candidates who are making a good attempt to try and communicate with voters, particularly in iowa but in others dates as well? —— other states as well? it gives other states a chance to see how the candidates are doing before the campaign has to go basically national, when you get to super tuesday. 0k, professor hegel, thank you very much forjoining us. every time i come here, i think, they must get fed up of us turning up they must get fed up of us turning up here. as the professor is saying,
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they like it because it gives them a lot of clout in the political process that otherwise, frankly, iowa and its issues would not have. i have never been to so many gymnasiums in one we can. we will get to that in a bit. we have just a moment to have our random animals story, right here where it belongs. about a seal. it has been clapping for the first time under water. when i was told about this this morning, i was told about this this morning, i was sceptical. i have seen seals clapping in the zoo. apparently, it is the first time they have been caught doing this of their own accord. it is thought that clapping may be a power move to show who is boss, to demonstrate your strength, to ward off competitors. who is the boss? this is beyond 100 days from the bbc in iowa. coming up for viewers on the bbc news channel on bbc world news, christian and i catch up with amy klobuchar with just hours left to go before the
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iowa caucuses. and don't forget, the impeachment trial of donald trump enters its final stages today as house managers begin the closing arguments. we will take a look at that as well, still to come. it has been a breezy sort of day, plenty of sunshine around, but we have had areas of rain also might. this front bringing rain towards the channel, some of it heavy and persistent. the big story through monday into tuesday is this area of low pressure pushing into the north of the uk, bringing severe gales and plenty of heavy and blustery showers. these sorts of temperatures at the end of the afternoon, just double figures across the south—east. we lose the rain from the channel islands through the evening. lengthy clear spells for the midlands and south, but further north, it turns windier and windier, lots of blustery showers moving through. gusts of up to 60 miles an hourin
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through. gusts of up to 60 miles an hour in northern ireland and northern england, in excess of 70 miles an hour across the north of scotland. showers and drifting snow over the mountains. the combination of severe gales and wintry showers over the high ground could lead to disruption later today, through the evening and overnight. it stays very windy across the northern half of the country as we move through the early hours, the strongest winds transferring towards the north—east of scotland. largely frost free for most because of the strength of the win, and we will continue with the heavy showers across the northern half of the country. high pressure moving in on tuesday, but we have to contend with this area of low pressure, bringing a windy start right across the country, but especially across northern and eastern areas, gusts of 40—50 miles an hour, plenty of squally showers, wintry over the higher ground of scotland. gradually, showers will ease down through the afternoon, also easing away from the cheshire
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93p- also easing away from the cheshire gap. increasing amounts of sunshine. the wind will start to turn lighter, particularly towards the south—west. temperatures of 8—10dc. high pressure m oves temperatures of 8—10dc. high pressure moves in and around the middle of the week, bringing lighter winds, more settled conditions, with increasing sunshine. we will also see a return of colder weather. wednesday will start on a cold and frosty note for many of us, and there will be mist and fog patches which could be dense and problematic. wednesday and thursday look similar. we will see a change at the end of the week, something milder and windier moving and of the atlantic. —— moving in off the atlantic.
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you're watching beyond 100 days... our top stories: the race to decide who will take on president trump in november's election begins with today's caucuses in iowa. borisjohnson sets out his vision for a trade deal with the europe, saying there is "no need" for the uk to follow brussels' rules. the eu's not so sure. also on the programme... the impeachment trial of president trump is almost over — today house managers began their closing arguments ahead of an acquital vote expected later this week. and christian and i spent super bowl night — not with nachos and beer in front of the game — but outside a political rally here in iowa. find out how we got on later.
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the iowa caucuses mark the start of the 2020 us presidential election campaign, the beginning of a long process by which the parties pick their candidates. or to put it another way, by which the democratic party picks a candidate to take on president trump in november. it would be overdoing it to say the only thing on iowans minds is the caucus that will take place later today. but astonishing numbers have been coming to the rallies held by the different campaigns. and iowans expect to have had proper face time with the candidates. we've been speaking to one of them, amy klobuchar. we have just got off the flight, it is freezing. it is saturday night, we are in a school parking lot. what, you wanted a nightclub? this
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is what passes for an exciting night. they love their politics. it isa night. they love their politics. it is a huge civic test of your political engagement and people will come out in the freezing cold to listen to a candidate who is probably not going to win. on a saturday. yes, on a saturday. not even going to win,. she probably is not, unfortunately. amy is the senator from not, unfortunately. amy is the senatorfrom neighbouring not, unfortunately. amy is the senator from neighbouring minnesota, she is one of the candidate stuck in presidentjohn's impeachment trial. they may as well hand the president of the united states a crown and a sceptic because our country has always been one founded on the loss --la always been one founded on the loss —— la that the president is not king in the united states of america, the law is king. in the crowd we met gill, a serial rally goer. he to
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everybody? how many? how many candidates there has been, i have been to them all, i have seen them all. do you think she can win the democratic nomination? she is behind in the polls. i am hoping she shocked the world. a nice little second, third place finish that goes into new hampshire and we know how this game is played. it is all about momentum, you just out rolling. this game is played. it is all about momentum, youjust out rolling. can she be donald trump if she gets the nomination? yes. it is late but the centre is not done yet. 45 minutes and hundreds a south—east later. how are you? i am good. how important is iowa? important, but we have a national campaign. i got an endorsement this morning, pick up every newspaper so far in new hampshire in terms of endorsement.
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we are running a national race. we are searching, we have got momentum everywhere, this isjust the beginning. but that her staff bundled her away, it is the end of a long night and months of campaigning. only andrew young has been in four more days but most have spent a long time in this state alone. we can bring in democratic political analyst mary anne marsh. how important is it that i what does thejob of weeding how important is it that i what does the job of weeding out some of those candidates? there is no question iowa always does tell new hampshire who they have to pick from and i expect a night to be no different. i
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do expect some surprises. make no mistake, i think it is important to remember in 2016 bernie sanders got the most vote but it was hillary clinton who got the most delegates. we can see that again tonight potentially. no question, when you look at the polling bernie sanders has been ahead at if this was a primary, he would win it. i am not going to say he is going to win this, but the one who will be a surprise is elizabeth warren. she may be able to outperform expectations and get more delegates. she is an organisation unlike any other. she has persuasion caption, alignment captain, a mask captain, she is providing day care. parents can go the young kids. i think that can go the young kids. i think that can make a big difference and is something to watch. it is so important and the people helping you in the experience you have on the ground. is there a winner tonight
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that one half of the democratic party might fear? i think if bernie sanders has a big win tonight, runs it up not only on the votes but on the delegates, that is the measurement, that is how we play this game. pledged delegates are the only ones who can vote on the first ballot at the convention, if he wins very big, i think you could see people who support joe very big, i think you could see people who supportjoe biden, the others, begin to worry or maybe consolidate. i thinkjoe others, begin to worry or maybe consolidate. ithinkjoe biden others, begin to worry or maybe consolidate. i thinkjoe biden is going to have the biggest problem if that happens and he would have to step up his game in new hampshire, and frankly he is in the same position, maybe a little behind the where he is here. let's talk about joe biden, to the extent that a lot of these candidates have positives and negatives, joe biden a year ago came into this race looking like the safe candidate. now, what i am hearing from people at rallies, as
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hearing from people at rallies, as he so safe after all? can you actually take on donald trump? the making too many mistakes on a debate stage, for example? is it kinda doesn't look so safe any more. —— be safe candidate doesn't look so safe any more. he was never a great candidate to begin with, this is his third try, there is a reason. he has never performed well, i have to give the trump people credit, they have gone after him on the same way they have gone after hillary clinton, on his son. they have gone after him hard. ithink his son. they have gone after him hard. i thinkjoe his son. they have gone after him hard. ithinkjoe biden, if he doesn't come into the top three, he has a big problem going into the re st of has a big problem going into the rest of the contest but he has to stop referring — — rest of the contest but he has to stop referring —— sat performing much better. we were at his caucus last night anyone take away what he was the candidate saying i can reach across and pull across the swing voters, i can win those purple
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states where we need to win back republican voters. bernie sanders, if he wins, he is going to be saying the strength in the democratic party is within the progressive liberal pace. you have two things going on, festival, joe biden is consistently saidl festival, joe biden is consistently said i am the guy who can be donald trump but the only way you prove thatis trump but the only way you prove that is by winning. if he doesn't win any of the first three contests, ido win any of the first three contests, i do not think he wins south carolina. you only can beat somebody by beating people. on the other hand, with bernie sanders, i do think because of who he is, how he campaigns and also the debate between socialism and capitalism, which you could have between sanders and warren, i think that is going to have a huge effect on the democratic party going forward. if it is anyone butjoe biden, party going forward. if it is anyone but joe biden, i party going forward. if it is anyone butjoe biden, ithink party going forward. if it is anyone butjoe biden, i think everyone gets tested along the weight then there
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is super tuesday but joe tested along the weight then there is super tuesday butjoe biden's testis this week tonight in new hampshire and nevada before it gets to carolina. he needs to finish better than it looks like he might right now. so interesting, thank you so much forjoining us. one thing that is going to be important tonight as he turns up. you look at eight bernie saunders rally, the people going to those rallies are much younger. the people we start atjoe biden's rally and amy's rally, the seem to be much younger. it is historically older people who vote in caucus. i those young people going to change history and turn up? the other thing we haven't touched on is there is one man who is not here and that is mike bloomberg, former mayor of new york who are spending massive amounts of money, not in the early states, but
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in all those 15 other states where he thinks, ifjoe biden comes in and has only one south carolina, he is in with a real chance. it is never worked before to try and run for the nomination without competing in iowa, he too will be making history in that strategy works for him. now that the uk has left the eu it can officially begin trade talks with its nearest neighbour. the negotiating teams have 11 months to come up with new deal — tariffs set by the wto will automatically be levied on all trade between them. today — borisjohnson and the eu's michel barnier each set out their opening negotiating positions. michel barnier says the eu is ready to offer a ‘highly ambitious' deal to the uk with zero tariffs or quotas, but — as the saying goes — there's no such thing as a free lunch. such a deal would be conditional on regulatory alignment. and borisjohnson made it equally
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clear that he wouldn't sign up to any deal requiring the uk to continue following eu rules. we are embarked now on a great voyage. we are ready to affirm a highly ambitious trade deal. the uk will maintain the highest standards in these areas, better, in many respects, than those of the eu without the compulsion of a treaty. the more we have common standards, the higher quality access the eu will be able to offer. the question is whether we agree a trading relationship with the eu comparable to canada's or more like australia's. the uk's answer to this question, the key questions, will be fundamental for the level of ambition
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for our future relationship. lots of red lines already. let's speak now to namale mackay — a former australian trade negotiator — who's in westminster. there is lots of red lines already on the paper but i suppose when you are opening a treaty negotiation, thatis are opening a treaty negotiation, that is where you begin. you go in high asset of the things you want out of it. that is exactly right,. this is to be expected, this kind of posturing at the stage where they are really setting out hard lines on both sides and it is very much a starting point. what happens from there will inevitably be negotiated down into a different final deal. obviously, you have had some experience of this. australia would like a trade deal with the eu. what lessons do you think the uk side
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could learn from the experience? one of the biggest things in tray negotiations is balance of power. australia always goes into a negotiation, and they are formidable partners, the eu being one of them, they do not necessarily come out on top so there is a geographical balance. this one is very different. this is not about converging, it is about diverging. there is a lot to be learnt in terms of knowing where you stand and how to actually conduct that negotiation from your position of power. do you think it is doable? what i think is doable is some kind of framework agreement, i mean, the main construction is the time frame. what is doable is some kind of solid framework agreement and any commitment to keep negotiating for maybe one — two
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years after that. i think that is the most likely sensible outcome. most trade deals, when they are very straightforward, ta ke most trade deals, when they are very straightforward, take a minimum of two years, this one is notjust a trade deal. it is broader. it is security and defence, a whole lot of issues and trade being the centrepiece of that. of course, we know already that the two sides are taking a different approach to how they would like to negotiate this. the uk wants to do it separately, piece by piece. the eu wants to put everything together, everything contingent on another part of the deal. is it really important at the outset before you start negotiating your red lines, to really set out how you want to go about between negotiation and takes precedence? absolutely, both sides will have those red lines and their bottom line is ready to go already. i think
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the eu is claiming up front they wa nt the eu is claiming up front they want some kind of alignment, they wa nt want some kind of alignment, they want the uk to stay close to the eu. i think business wants that as well, uk businesses want that. it is a matter of ultimately how close will we stay. and then there are are other issues that have come up that have to be agreed by a certain date like fisheries rights and that is already written into the political declaration to be sorted out in some degree byjuly. those time constraints that are already built and will set some of that priority in the negotiation. ok, thank you very much forjoining us. great to get another country's perspective on what is ahead for the uk. the impeachment trial of president trump is almost over. today, the house managers began their closing arguments, going over the key facts
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that they say support their case for removing mr trump from office. the president's defence team have responded in kind — saying the public should decide. a final vote to acquit him is expected on wednesday. mr trump isn't the only one keen to see this saga brought to an end. the timing is farfrom ideal for some of the presidential hopefuls, four of them are in the senate chamber, rather than making a final push in iowa where tonight's caucuses are being held. that is the reason why some of them are here. jane o brien has been listening across today's hearing and joins us now from washington. what do you make of some of the closing arguments we have had from the house managers?” closing arguments we have had from the house managers? i think you have got more energy over there than we have in washington because quite frankly, what we have heard is more of the same. we knew on friday this trial was going to end on wednesday and we knew on friday how it is
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going to end, donald trump will be acquitted. republicans say they have the numbers, the vote to acquit him and that will be it. this is how the world ends, not with a bang but with a whimper. how bad is it for those four democratic candidates who would like to be here in iowa that they are stuck yet again in the senate chamber? i was speaking to amy and she kept saying i wish i was in iowa, has it been a big problem for them? it has been a big problem for her because i was talking to her in new hampshire and this is where she needs to make that mark, it is that face—to—face connection with voters that she is missing out on. she is the one trailing behind the leaders. having said that bernie saunders, elizabeth warren, i do think it has affected them at all. look at the polls, bernie saunders is in the lead. it could be his night tonight
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and don't forget that if you are a bernie saunders supporter, that is pretty unequivocal. there are not that many people who are still making up their mind about bernie saunders, he has been campaigning pretty much since 2015. we know who he is and what he is about. i don't think it has affected him. i think amy has a lot of ground to make up having not been there. ok. thank you very much for that. it is quite extraordinary, we had exit last friday —— brexit‘s last friday. we have the impeachment trial is coming up. state of the union tomorrow. one of the interesting things about amy wa nted of the interesting things about amy wanted to be here, the reason that bernie saunders has been so successful here is because he was here in 2016. they have been at it
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for a year, he has captains that are skilled in this and can do the work for him. it may be why elizabeth warren surprises people tonight, she has that ground game. an enormous row has erupted today between downing street and the media. there have already been some significant points of tension — the ministerial boycott of the bbc‘s flagship morning radio programme today, and a row about whether broadcasters will take pre—fed material from number 10, filmed by number 10. but today it was much more dramatic. at an afternoon downing street briefing on trade, some journalists from left of centre publications were told to stand on one side of the room — and then were asked to leave. otherjournalists — including the bbc‘s laura kuenssberg— then left in solidarity. this is interesting because there are this is interesting because there a re parallels this is interesting because there are parallels between what seems to be happening in the uk and to journalists access to government officials and what is happening here
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in the united states where we have had a big row in the state department with mike pompeo and national public radio which is the public broadcaster here on the radio side, and they have been excluded from a key trip with mr pompeo after a row between a journalist and himself. he was mr pompeo in kaza khsta n himself. he was mr pompeo in kazakhstan being asked about the press. with respect, i always bring a big press contingent but we ask for certain sets of behaviours that are simply telling the truth and being honest. it is a perfect message about press freedoms, they were free to ask questions, a reporter from that very business was at a press conference just yesterday, it is wide open in america, i love it. i hope the rest of the world will follow our press freedoms. there were lots of people around the world following the american example. they people last year were jailed because of fake news so they are using that american term. the
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highest record number of journalists ever jailed. highest record number of journalists everjailed. the npr journalist did in fact follow the rules, there is an e—mailtrailto in fact follow the rules, there is an e—mail trail to follow she —— to show she followed the rules. he just didn't like the question she was asking about the ambassador in ukraine who were sacked by donald trump. one of the founding pillars of democracy is freedom of the press and are concerned at the moment, both in the uk and the us, that is being impinged upon. this is beyond 100 days. still to come — it was the super bowl last night — and i'm here in america desperate to enjoy the experience — but i'll tell you why i missed the game. iamso i am so sorry. i feel bad. you are not forgiven. more news now on one of our top stories this evening. the uk government has announced emergency legislation in response to an attack in south london
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yesterday by a convicted terrorist who'd just been released early from prison. mark easton reports. they knew he was extremely dangerous, but the law said they could not hold him. sudesh amman's sentence meant he had to be released last month despite police and security service fears that he posed a very significant risk to public safety. this evening, the government announced emergency legislation that would keep new and existing terrorism offenders in prison for longer and with tougher controls on release. but dangerous extremists could still not be locked up indefinitely. at the earliest point at which these offenders will now be considered for release will be once they have served two thirds of their sentence and crucially, we will introduce a requirement that no terrorist offender will be released before the end of their full custodial term, unless the parole board agrees. only two months ago, another released terrorist offender usman khan stabbed five people,
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murdering two of them at fishmongers hall on london bridge. there are currently at least 74 people who were jailed for terror offenses and subsequently freed on licence. there are also 224 people convicted of terrorism offenses in prison in britain, most of whom must be released at the end of their custodial sentence. back in 2005, the then labour government introduced imprisonment for public protection, ipps, indefinite sentences specifically designed to keep highly dangerous people like sudesh amman locked up. but then in 2012, a conservative prime minister got rid of them after warnings the prison system didn't have the resources to cope. searching for a way to balance the rights of the public to be kept safe against the human rights of those dealt with by the courts. the government may find even today's proposals will come under legal challenge.
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last week we went to a —— last night we went to a joe biden rally and we try to talk to candidates, bar cameraman was busy so we had to rely on christian who practice with his phone. that was questioned trying to bea phone. that was questioned trying to be a cameraman. what happened? we waited for an hour. we had come out of the gym and i saw the bus and i texted you and said joe biden's bus is around the back of your, would you like to speak to him? you said, iam coming you like to speak to him? you said, i am coming and you forgot to bring a cameraman. shall we see how i did? let's go. mr president. thank you, guys. i
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which are likely to cause disruption with the snow. blizzard conditions as we head through the night and into tuesday morning. they winds will become more dominant across many parts of the uk is go into tuesday morning, strong gusty with the showers. as the stays go on, the showers will migrate southwards around the area of the pressure but will start to dry up a little bit across northern ireland, wales, western scotland. winds will ease but for most of us, it is a bracing north—westerly, it will feel colder and ill be showers around well into the afternoon. changes on the way. those showers, there was winds will start to ease and the reason is we will see the return of high pressure after ten days and some settled weather for two or three days. let's follow those showers as ease away through the evening and overnight. later wind, we pick up a south—westerly system patchy rain in the north and west where it is largely frost—free, but for most of us will be a cold night. some areas
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injanuary us will be a cold night. some areas in january had not us will be a cold night. some areas injanuary had not had a frost at all. that high pressure stays with us to give a settled weather through wednesday, thursday and for many of us friday as well as is weather front is to weaken as they come into the area of high pressure. we may well have two or three, possibly four dry days because many parts of the uk this week but it does mean temperatures will not behave a day. there is no strengthening sunshine and we will have a chilly night with patchy fog, but as we head for next weekend, we will see the winds with returning rain. the warnings are online.
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this is bbc news, the headlines. the government says it will introduce emergency legislation over early release for terror offences following the attack on shoppers in south london. the man was shot dead by police yesterday afternoon and had only recently been freed from prison after serving half of his sentence for terrorism offences. we face an unprecedented situation of severe gravity and as such we need a government response immediately and this legislation will also apply to serving prisoners. boris johnson says britain will not bind itself to eu rules to get a trade deal by
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