this spine of england, exactly. i cannotjust, you this spine of england, exactly. i cannot just, you know, this spine of england, exactly. i cannotjust, you know, the guardian does it for example, peppered with quotes from the per minister, and i think it's quite clever the way he has managed to sort of get his narrative on this. it's his narrative, he is the one that... that could be the success of its you know? if he gets people behind it i'iow know? if he gets people behind it now with that sort of language, just shows the power of a good speech. i think the danger is actual delivery, because we know that boris johnson, he's keen on infrastructure projects, but he has had problems with delivery in the past, with that famous bridge when he was london mayor. so you know, the proof is in the pudding. we will have to see whether costs keeps spiralling. the maximum was making a joke about bridges earlier today, pointing out we have the bridge in london, and no coming up. a bridge to nowhere in scotla nd coming up. a bridge to nowhere in scotland and northern ireland. is kept of reports going on, there are a lot of things that this government does, i think brexit has freed up time, but that much time? we will see, and of course, we will come back to this question in a moment, because about the people who deliver on the question of a

reshuffle, which is imminent. there is talk though about the guardian from page. this great fadiman daigle, this poor man who through no fault of his own has been dubbed as a kind of super in factor of people. you would not want to be in this man's shoes, really, would you? no, it's pretty dire, and he's kind of set, you know, i mean, he has come out and people however kind scrutinising his day, scrutinising everything he's doing. olivia was cussing about what he's got up to that day. itjust makes that day. it just makes me that day. itjust makes me tired thinking about it. it makes you feel rather lazy. imean, yeah, lazy. i mean, yeah, he had a very busy time, but with coronavirus, we basically just don't time, but with coronavirus, we basicallyjust don't know enough at the moment, so the world health organisation met today, and they will be meeting, and they need to ascertain so many different factors in orderfor us to ascertain so many different factors

in order for us to know how to really feel about this. they don't know what the case fatality is, they don't know the susceptibility, they don't know the susceptibility, they don't know the susceptibility, they don't know exactly, you know, how susceptible people are to actually being affected by it, and also, you know, how soon the symptoms arise as well. and until we know those things, we don't know how to feel about it. yeah, exactly, i am not a virus expert. but what i keep noticing as it doesjust seem to be affecting people so differently. this guy come i read that he must have felt a really high load of virus or something to managed to pass it onto some new people in such a short space of time, but he's completely better now. so, yeah, just so many questions and no answer. we had good news from wha so who said the chinese seem to be effective at limiting the spread of it outside the country, and indeed, within the country, but there is still some figures that came out here about 1100 deaths so far. it's above sars, on the other hand, it seems to be killing fewer of the people who are getting it, which is atan people who are getting it, which is at an encouraging sign, than the people who are most vulnerable, they obviously who are people who have

wea knesses obviously who are people who have weaknesses like a weakened immune system, or elderly, that's a course of optimism, and keep it in perspective, don't we? thousands of people die every year from the flu. we don't get into a mass panic about it. it's terrible for the people affected, but we accepted as part of oui’ affected, but we accepted as part of our seasonal lives. to make a think it's the fact that it comes from china commander was show still in x0 shrouded in secrecy from the beginning, and we know it's difficult to have good public health ina difficult to have good public health in a country where there is so much. everything is acting in secrecy all the time. sol everything is acting in secrecy all the time. so i think that creates this kind of atmosphere of fear around it. think the story of the doctor who originally was trying to warn people about the virus, and then died himself. it is something that would have emotionally touched people, reading about that. absolutely, you try to do the right thing, punished for doing the right thing, punished for doing the right thing, and pays the ultimate price. leaving behind a widow with one child and another on the way. let's talk about reshuffles, but you both backin talk about reshuffles, but you both back in your comfort zone. i love that. olivia, the expectation

was that this was going to be a fairly extensive reshuffle. what is the kind of mood music now in westminster? well, i remember reading jane forsyth in the sun a couple of weeks ago who was saying already he didn't think it was going to be as extensive a breezy as previously thought, mainly because borisjohnson as it is such previously thought, mainly because boris johnson as it is such a powerful position, everyone is his friend, he doesn't really need to bring his friends in and have a close knit team where people are doing borisjohnson's bidding, because everyone is doing his bidding anyway. he is in a honeymoon period, it will go on. rates, so he doesn't really need that. i think what is interesting, what has been brief today, he will promote quite a lot of former remainders, and there isa lot of former remainders, and there is a chance that the only brexit tear or hard—core brexiteer as someone tear or hard—core brexiteer as someone who held out against theresa may deal will be patel, so it is a sign that he is trying to bring the country back together. he is no longer dependent on this strand within the party. exactly. not beholden to them at all any more,

and of course, i keep on hearing that it's quite likely that he is going to promote quite a lot of these 2015-2017 going to promote quite a lot of these 2015—2017 intake, who came in and for the last three years, the conservative party has been so desperate to make itself look stable, itjust desperate to make itself look stable, it just keeps desperate to make itself look stable, itjust keeps putting in old hats. remarkable, actual, to know how often i've looked at a reshuffle under theresa may and even towards the end of the day and thinking, well that was a junior minister 5—10 yea rs well that was a junior minister 5—10 years ago, what about all these people who have just been elected and arejust people who have just been elected and are just not really being used? even some of the 2010 once i think suffered from that. i think they will probably get rewarded, loosely phrased, they are both being tips for promotion. penny backed, do we think? she seems to massively deserve it. she's been so loyal a ll massively deserve it. she's been so loyal all the way, but seems like a very strange decision. when she was sacked as defence secretary. but borisjohnson on the sacked as defence secretary. but boris johnson on the whole is quite magnanimous. he seemed tojust punish penny for backing jeremy hunt and the leadership election, which

seemed out of character. so, i think that's quite a good chance she will be back. i think it was an interesting approach. from the beginning, it was setting up that that this will be revolutionary, radical, and basically scared quite a lot of ministers. they had been very quiet. they were doing their homework, finishing their boxes. not as many lunches with journalists perhaps, dominic cummings network of spies. so, all of those kinds of things. you seem to be very effective in terms of managing the front there. and now, they are breathing out there will be no revolution. one name in here that might surprise people, because he was a bit of a darling of the party for a while, cox, the attorney—general. for a while, cox, the attorney-general. i know coming i'm going to miss him. he entertains eve ryo ne going to miss him. he entertains everyone in the chamber, certainly. all of the journalists pick up in the lobby when we know he is going to be making a speech with his booming voice. he did an amazing reading for the grassroots group, it was so

sensational. he's got a future in audiobooks or something. or in standup comedy, who knows, he is a very entertaining person. we had a mantra questions last summer, and despite a rather hostile audience down in devon, he was absolutely pushing the message very hard and very effectively. but there you are, i'm sure they will find their way to you. assuming that is an accurate speculation. now, the ft, this is an interesting contrast to the campaign. the democrats in the united states, they are really struggling with this, aren't they? this contest. so we are having a leadership election, and it's fair, it's quiet, it's quite civilized for me there discussing policy, all kind of think i'm you know, i agree with you, i agree with you. it is basically quite a dull affair, whereas the democratic primary is com pletely whereas the democratic primary is completely different, and i love watching the debates, because it is different there. so much character,

and so you know, they attack each other. you would not believe they are from the same party. as a brit, he would just not believe it, you would never see anything like that. remember when the republicans where four yea rs when the republicans where four years ago, partly because trump is such an aggressive character, and saying awful things about... it was neverl saying awful things about... it was never i agree with so—and—so, it's a he's a pipsqueak and he is of that, and he is at best. just throwing out abuse everywhere. sojoe biden was considered a front runner at the beginning, and he has been falling back, and it's because, partly down to his performance in these debates. its lackluster. he is, and he's quite downbeat, and it seems like that wing of the party are seems like that wing of the party a re really seems like that wing of the party are really preferring pete at the moment, and he is the one that is kind of rising up and he did well in the iowa caucuses, and we will see how well he does in new hampshire. if it ends, it will end a slightly happier than his famous run back in the... with that speech to pull out. reminds you of how long he's been in

national politics. it's extraordinary. he still there, and still fighting for it. let's end with the big story on the telegraph, scrapping the licence fee will wea ken scrapping the licence fee will weaken the nation, says david. this is probably the bbc will be quite pleased, the telegraph reporting the so pleased, the telegraph reporting the so prominently. yeah, maybe it's a sort of... showing borisjohnson that they are not in his pockets any more, and coming out against hs—2. and the bbc licence fee. the thing is that this conversation will go on for so many years, because the licensee is fed to the neck settle for a few years in the future. sol think the paper ran out of steam about it quite soon, and we will all forget about her again for another couple of years. i think the idea that the bbc is becoming a subscription service is quite a scary one, and when that is not going to be a very popular idea among the general public. it's a bit like the nhs, such a valued british

institution that people are so proud of in this country, and the fact that... so they attack it, but when it's under attack, we hope that the bbc, i guess, it's under attack, we hope that the bbc, iguess, but it's under attack, we hope that the bbc, i guess, but at the same time, there is some pretty big questions about its future and why people are paying for something that loads for the neck of people aren't watching, they have to pay for, no way around it, there were a bunch of people who weren't having to pay for it, and have to pay for it in the future, some quite difficult questions here. definitely. there are questions about the size of the bbc. i think almost everyone would agree that yes, obviously, there are great parts of the bbc, which are genuine public service broadcasting, and something like the world service, i think it's brilliant that we fund the world service with the licence fee. but the bbc expanding into podcasts, sport podcast for example, podcasts, sport podcast for example, podcasts or one area where it's pretty low bar for entry for new media startups you know? you can make a good podcast with them not very many people, so there are small media companies making successful podcasts and that's great, but the bbc is sort of proud to crowding them out in some cases i think with hiring big names, using a lot of licence pay money —— licence fee

money on podcasts and you just think, is that really come is this foot ball think, is that really come is this football podcast a public service broadcast, should the licence fee cover it? we will come back to that in the next hour. olivia and sienna, thank you both very much. thank you for watching. that's the papers for this hour. they will be back at 11:30pm, with another look at the papers, and two additional papers since then. it's all there for you — seven days a week at bbc dot co uk forward slash papers — and if you miss the programme any evening you can watch it later on bbc iplayer. thank you and goodbye. hello there. we've got more really bad weather to come over the next few days and into the weekend as well. right now it is all about how cold it is, the corridor winds blowing, it certainly has been blowing, it certainly has been blowing and some snow showers with some quite horizontal snow and some

drifting at the moment. it is mainly across the northern half of the uk that will have icy conditions in northern ireland and scotland, this will receive most of the snow shares continuing overnight with a few further south making a bit of snow over the welsh hills and may be briefly over the walls and southwest by the court went certainly and the threat of some icy conditions. we are still essentially in this cold shower we were in the airstream for wednesday. and two things will happen through the day. first of all, the winds that have been very strong over the past few days will gradually ease down. and secondly, bob start with quite a few showers, particularly in the north, they will become fewer. more places becoming drier and entering sentients. as far as temperatures are concerned, 9 degrees today in southern areas and will get back to that figure on wednesday but still cold but at the showers in the north but because the winds would not be as strong and probably won't feel quite as cold. however as a look to the southwest

will start to see the cloud thickening later in the day and some showers coming in as well it's very quickly and wednesday night, the spenderframe will sweep quickly and wednesday night, the spender frame will sweep its way eastwards. it slows down across the northern areas is to get the corridor mixture of some rain and snow into lower levels for a time overnight for lifting onto the hills for the south and we will have some showers on thursday and will have some gales through the english channel double figures in england but a court date in northeastern england. a frosty start for many on friday before see this band of rain moving from the atlantic, not a huge amount of rain but more likely in the mountains in scotland because they have more of a southerly wind picking up and that is where temperatures will be everywhere mild and rising and will probably see much snow beginning to melt as well. as we into the weekend, we have another storm heading our way and this one storm dennis. it may not be quite as severe as storm ciara, but given the damage that we have seen in ongoing problems and still the threat of some damaging winds and

big waves and gusts of 60 —— 70 mph winds and smokeless flooding as well, and certainly want to watch will give more details on that of the next few days but the moment it looks like the biggest impact over the weekend will be some heavy rain with the threat of some localised flooding.

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