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tv   Victoria Derbyshire  BBC News  February 15, 2020 4:30pm-5:00pm GMT

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dozens of flood warnings are in place across the uk. forecasters say a month's worth of rain could fall in some places. the storm is scuppering travel plans for many. hundreds of flights have been cancelled and trains services are disrupted. france has recorded the first death from coronavirus in europe, as beijing orders everyone returning to that city from holidays to go into quarantine for m days or risk punishment. from today, companies which provide phone, broadband and pay—tv services will have to alert customers when their contracts are coming to an end. and now on bbc news, victoria derbyshire takes a look at some of the highlights from her programme this week.
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hello and welcome. for the next half an hour, we will show you some of the highlights of our award—winning journalism over the last week. first, when simon o'leary was growing up in ireland and his mum used to say goodnight to him, when he was a boy, he would tell her that he did not want to wake up in the morning. because, for years, simon was terrified about his own sexuality. simon is a producer on our programme. he has returned home to dublin to make this film for you. it does have discussion about suicidal thoughts and self—harm. which some people might find upsetting. so this is where i used to come when i wanted to clear my head. i was 12 and i used to come here and i feel like the only thing i should have been worrying about was getting my homework done, but in my head i was making a master
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plan to stop myself from being gay. from what i can remember, i started having suicidal thoughts when i was about ten. and i knew i'd never act on them, but it was the idea that i could put things to an end, like kind of... ..in the most bizarre way, gave me the strength to keep going. i've come home to dublin, the city which i grew up in. i feel very lucky that my family were always so supportive, but i know they struggled seeing me upset. for the first time, my mum has agreed to revisit these memories with me. i worried all the time. it's just never...
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in every conversation i had with somebody, you were on my mind, whirring around in my head. i remember when you would say, "i wish i didn't wake up." it was just horrific. really hard. really. you're so powerless, so powerless as a parent to do anything. we went up to see the teacher and she said that basically your friend had come to her and said that you had tried to self—harm. you denied it. was that true? yeah, but i did... i tried. but i didn't do it for a really long time, but i did do it for a little bit. and i guess it's quite weird now because, as an adult, i feel really guilty for making you feel so worried all the time. god, i was just such a poser.
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mm—hm. still are, i think. i think you're gorgeous. mm. when did you start to think that i might be gay? we walked to school and i had an umbrella. and you wanted an umbrella. mm. and i said, you can pick whichever colour you like. so we went into the shop and you picked the pink. and i said, "mm, that's kind of against the rules." and then you put your little hand on your hip and you said, "well, who made up the rules?" and then i realised i'd been conditioned. it wasn't until then, i realised. and i said, "well, yeah, to hell — who did make the rules up? you can have the pink." i've come to meet pat sowa in yorkshire. this is her son, dom. he was four in this picture and wearing his
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favourite stripy swimsuit. in many ways, our stories are very similar. when he grew up, he also struggled to accept his sexuality. he even had a pink umbrella, too. we would have been two peas in a pod. i think so. he had a pink umbrella with butterflies on it and he used to skip into school with his hairflopping. my suicidal thoughts went away. but dom's didn't. he told his family he was gay when he was 14 and then decided to come out on social media. he received lots of praise initially, but then the bullying started. i call it old—style bullying — you know, sort of pushing him up against the wall in corridors. people would yell faggot at him. some pictures had circulated about him on social media. and he described that as feeling like he'd been raped. and just the intensity of what that must have felt like for him was really hard to learn as a parent. after two years of homophobic
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bullying, dom agreed to move school and pat thought that he'd turned a corner, but he was still suffering. dom did then take his own life in october... october 2017, yeah. and you know, that's when your world just...pop. it's indescribable. but off the back of that, in that intense pain, straightaway, ijust knew with such clarity, this is not right. back home, i'm visiting my school for the first time since i left six years ago. so much has changed in ireland since i've been in school. we now have an openly gay taoiseach. gay marriage was still illegal when i was at school.
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i had a really difficult time when i started, and things did turn around. but i'm keen to see what things are like for students now. this feels very strange. and that definitely wasn't here when i was here. i love that flag. i love it so much. it's been there since stand—up week in november. they put it up because, you know, it's gay time. eli and tom are part of an lgbtq club at the school. it's student—led and they meet up weekly. would it surprise you if i told you that, as far as i know, i was the only gay person in school when i was here? see, hearing that now that is very surprising, you know, because we are introduced to so many people. like the first thing that we probably would say to someone who could be our new friend or something is, "so what's your sexuality?" "hi, i'm gay."
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i think the main objective for the club is to make sure everyone feels comfortable. they can come into this welcoming group of people and feel so much love from so many strangers. yeah. to be able to express yourself is the main goal, i think, going into that club. if you have to hide yourself, you're not really living. no. i went back to my old school and they have the lgbtq flag outside, flying, and they've got an lgbtq club as well for the students. do you think that's something that might have helped dom? yeah, course i do. i mean, i think he actually said to me that one of the reasons he felt unwelcome was because there were no visible signs. and i think it's easy to forget how important it is to be absolutely overt. when i was in my final year of school, i was made head boy, a role which often goes to the most academic or athletic. i was neither of those.
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i decided i wanted to speak to thejunior students about my experience coming out. erin mcdonald, better known as fauxjoli, came to one of my talks. he was 12 at the time, and now he's fast becoming one of dublin's most popular drag queens. hearing you, like, so openly and comfortably talk about your experience in school, and ifelt like i could relate to it in a way and i was like, this is so weird. and then from like hearing you, like, i'd always think about, like, seeing you so confident and comfortable yourself when you were in sixth year. so i'd be in like second or third year and i'm like, i need to catch up. like, i need to like be
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like that kind of like confident when i'm his age. really? yeah. so like, i always remember that so well. the experience you had when you were in first year in school and the experience that i had would have been, was completely different because of people like you speaking out. i was like quite feminine and stuff. like people would not bully me, but mock my voice and like stuff like that, just little things like that. what kind of impact did that have on you? it made me scared of guys. even now, i'm just freaked outjust to be around like groups of straight guys still. now my friends, if ever i'm out and someone like shouts like "faggot" at me or anything, like my friends will always... does that still happen? yeah, definitely. i was doing a hen party in galway and someone threw like mcdonald's at me when i was walking down the main street because i had like a face of makeup on. and i wasjust like... i'm not fazed by it at all any more. like, i've a really thick skin because of it.
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i've never wanted to be on tv, simon. so the reason i'm doing this now is because i don't want anybody else to go through what we've been through. i don't want any other parents to go through the devastation of losing their child. i don't want anyone else to feel as bad as dom felt. and i want them to know that that we can do something about it and that this just has to stop. years ago, simon, i wouldn't have been able to talk about this and be calm. i would have been in floods of tears. it's only now in, you know, so many years have gone by and you're so much better now and able to cope with your life. i wouldn't have been able to do this when you were 13. just... it would have been just too raw and emotionalfor me to do. and you do know that i'm really happy now? i do, i do, yeah, and i'm happy for you. that is simon's story. if you were affected by any
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of the issues raised in his film, please do contact the bbc action line, where you can access information about help and support. next, we brought together three mps in a joint exclusive interview. the labour mp for battersea, marsha de cordova who is also the shadow minister for disabled people. labour mp for brent central, dawn butler is also shadow secretary for women and equalities. and the labour mp for streatham, bell ribeiro—addy who i shadow bell ribeiro—addy who is shadow immigration minister. in the past ten days, three media organisations, including the bbc and evening standard newspaper, confused them with each other. those media organisations have since apologised. i spoke to the three women to ask why they think it happened. it was really disappointing and quite upsetting, because obviously i'm a woman in my own right. i just felt as though, you know, as an individual, i'm visible, i'm here and it almost felt as though labelling me as my colleague and friend dawn, just felt as though they've categorised us all
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as just one grouping. a black female mp with braids or locks in dawn's case. it was disappointing and i felt quite upset by the whole thing. even though it was very swiftly corrected. it was, but you know, it should not have happened in the first place, should it? that is the thing, it should not have happened in the first place. also, because mistakes like this have happened at the bbc previously, so they've got a bit of form on it that's what makes it more worrying and concerning. that's when you start to think about whether or not this organisation really takes diversity seriously. dawn, how did it make you feel? i feel a sense of responsibility, i came into parliament in 2005 and people couldn't tell myself apart from diane abbott. i thought over a decade later, when black women like marsha
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or bell, african caribbean women, they have to work hard and they deserve to be recognised for who they are. marsha gave a speech in parliament that she had written, to be labelled as me, it happens quite regularly, sometimes we laugh about it but i say, it's not about making a mistake, it's about making the effort, if you haven't got anybody in your newsroom who can tell us apart and know that we are different, you need to have someone in your newsroom who can. everybody has a bias, maybe some people cannot tell us apart, we are wearing the same colour! many cannot tell us apart but some people can so have someone in the room who can tell us apart, this happens way too often. it's not the first time we've been mixed up and when we were launching the general election campaign in november last year, a presenter mistakenly described me as dawn butler and if he'd done research himself, he would have understood who i was. marsha, the evening standard
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when writing up the story about the bbc error showed a picture of bell and said it was you. in the morning you are dawn, in the afternoon you were bell... how do you react? it's quite disrespectful, i am a new mp, if no one knows who i am that's ok, but dawn and marcia have knows who i am that's ok, but dawn and marsha have been mp5 for some time and they've had portfolios, lots of very important things to say and i would expect people to know exactly who they are. there are a number of white male mps in parliament, some of them have the same name or similar sounding names, it's very rare for them to get mixed up. although that has happened, a couple of snp politicians, surname thomson were mixed up. as dawn said, it happens to us lots more. and it happens in situations that won't really make sense. we don't have the same surname.
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we've got mps called thomson, did you say? got the same surname, that is easier to mix up, situation there are loads of white men, you might mix them up, there are less of us, you would expect us to be more distinctive but apparently, we are not. let me give you another example, involving white female mps, two of your colleagues in fact. holly lynch and cat smith. i think we can show you this tweet. what do you think of that? i think it's unacceptable that anybody gets mixed up, they were pregnant at almost the same time. they thought it was quite comical. but the thing is, the bbc has to do better. it's our public service broadcaster, it needs to do better, there was a time we used to go
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to the bbc for news, now we are fact checking with the bbc says and i think the bbc has to do a lot better. you know, victoria, your show, they are scrapping your show and i think actually, you've done a lot of good work, exposing lots of the stories that we've spoken about. really important for the country and for the bbc why are they scrapping your show? personally i think they should scrap question time but we are not here to talk about that. there's lots of things the bbc need to do better and i think diversity is key and i don't think they had the diversity they need to. the bbc say it's an economic decision in terms of the plan to close our programme. people who look like us on the show, and as far as i know, less likely to confuse us! can i ask, given the example there cat smith and holly lynch, is what is happening to you racism? if you cannot distinguish between people because they are of the same race, i think that has to question how
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you view us definitely, it happens to asian women mps frequently. could it be human error, production staff under a lot of pressure? there could be an element of that, but again, the bbc have had form on this. you use the phrase racial bias, i wanted to ask you where this kind of mislabelling to describe it as one thing or racial bias, to describe it as another, where it comes in terms of the racism that you have faced in your lives, where would you say? i suppose for me, i always say this, because i am visually impaired and i've had to overcome significant barriers with my disability and that's always been my biggest challenge in life, to be fair, and i continue to face all of those barriers and challenges now, so racism has always been there but i've always had to be fighting for disability rights, more so than for more, better... recognition around the colour
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of my skin, it's my disability that's held me back more or seeks to hold me back more because of the institutional problems that disabled people face. sure. bell, you said you recently elected mp, in terms of being a black female mp, what's it like? it's as if it were just one homogenous group! these ladies are great. i have to have almost an extra responsibility, if i mess up, i... my aunt had a really real situation, someone came up to her at work and was literally giving her a telling off for something that another black woman did. it's that type of thing. if we are seen as just one homogenous group, it's added pressure, we can't make mistakes, it affects everybody. finally, we heard from the model and influence, lauren goodwin.
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she was told she would never be able to have children because she has polycystic ovaries and endometriosis. but at a routine kidney scan last november, she was then told she was five months pregnant. she had no idea. she has now revealed that the father is england and manchester city player kyle walker. who she had a relationship with last summer. i spoke to her on wednesday. i suffer from endometriosis and polycystic ovaries, which actually does cause people to be infertile. it can cause you to be. well, basically, you find your womb lining and other areas of your body and that sheds when you have your monthly cycle as well. for my condition i was told i would not be able to conceive naturally, i would have to go down the route of ivf.
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that was originally the plan. i've been suffering with really bad periods from the age of 15. when i say bad, people assume the odd cramp, take a couple of paracetamols, but it is not that sort of pain. it's excruciating. i kept going to the doctors. they would come back with irritable bowel syndrome or crohn‘s disease. i had never heard of that, i didn't know what they meant by that but that was the intestines as well but i knew that it was my womb, because it was every time i was having my monthly period. so i said to them no, it's definitely not that, it is definitely my womb, and another thing i've been getting on my instagram, because i have been saying to people out there, i have managed to conceive naturally, so it can happen for you guys as well, stay positive. i've had lots of their stories coming where they say my specialist has told me to go for a scan but that is kind of upsetting for me. one of my sisters friends at her gender reveal party said,
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that i had been for a scan, and you cannot diagnose endometriosis by a scan. you can only diagnose it by a laparoscopy, a keyhole operation going into your belly button and then down to the left or right, and they go in and they laser off and burn away all of the endometriosis. the problem is with that, endometriosis never goes away. it just only grows. you are only temporarily removing it. and the issue with that is, you can't keep going for operations because it then actually damages internally, so you can end up with organs that are sticking together, and that is a huge problem, then. then people end up having hysterectomies which means they'll never be able to have children. there is lots of information out there for people
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who want the latest facts, info and treatment. let's go back to how you discovered you are pregnant. you were five months pregnant and you had no idea. i had a routine kidney scan in november because i have a benign kidney tumour in my right kidney, and i went there and they were scanning over my kidney and bladder and the woman was like, congratulations and me and my mum looked at each other and said what, has the tumour shrank, is it gone? she said no, your pregnancy, your baby. i was like, what baby? she turned the screen and there was this full on baby on the screen and ijust burst out crying. i couldn't believe it. i was thinking how had i done at? i was thinking how had i done it? you are being told you will never become pregnant naturally. and the amount of tests i had it with my previous partner very with my previous partner
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where you really hope for that positive, and it was a negative, every time. you thought it was a joke? it didn't feel real at first. the realisation didn't set in. i was just overwhelmed and i started crying, thinking to myself, i can't believe that i have a baby inside me and i'm creating this life that i was told i never could. nobody knew who the dad was, it is nobodies business but you said at the weekend it is kyle walker of manchester city and england. why? originally, i was in barbados. i had been papped out there, pregnant. my manager rang me and said, they have you pregnant, what do you want me to say? and i was thinking, panicking, can i even deny i am pregnant, i am not ready to do this. and it went out that i was pregnant. i decided to release it on my instagram and give the back story as to why this was such a special pregnancy for me. then it didn't become about why it was such a special pregnancy and the infertilityjourney i'd been
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on, it became about who the dad was, which for me, it wasn't about that, but about raising awareness for women that are suffering, many suffering in silence because they don't know they've got this condition or disease. what was the rationale for naming him? i thought, now we got that out of the way, we can move on and concentrate on what i do want, which is raising awareness for people. and even being able to give people hope that they can have a baby, and the amount of messages i've had on instagram saying, thank you so much. they have read the sun, they've said i'm not into gossip and tabloids, but you raising awareness being on a public platform is helping. not enough people talk about this disease. for now, that's all for this week. you can contact the programme anytime twitter and you can e—mail your story. we back live on monday morning, 10am, bbc two, bbc news channel and online.
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thanks for watching. storm dennis is arriving. the winds happen packing up, the rain has been moving in as well, we will find rivers level levels rising. there is a strong between scotland and iceland, deepening rapidly, which is why the winds have been strengthening and all the cloud has been bringing outbreaks of rain. the rain may have a greater impact, these are the amber rain warnings from the met office covering the hail is. we lose the one in southern scotla nd hail is. we lose the one in southern scotland tomorrow as the wetter weather moves south and we back—up a number rain morning for the downs in the south—east with the heaviest of the south—east with the heaviest of the rain likely to be over mid and south wales in the hills. we have seen south wales in the hills. we have seen a south wales in the hills. we have seen a lot of rain here already, rain pretty much covering the whole of the uk. not as wet for the eastern side but it will be windy everywhere, widely 50 or 60 miles
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however, more around the coast. wetter weather in the north of scotland, could be squally and with temperatures in double figures. we will find after that thundery downpour in scotland and northern ireland, showers following overnight, rain mainly affecting england and wales, developing widely again, heavy rain over the hills threatening some further flooding as well. it turns colder in scotland and northern ireland with the showers wintry over the hills but exceptionally mild across much of england and wales. i wet and windy start to tomorrow. that rain band edges towards the south—east and things may can down for a little bit but lots of showers from the north—west, again wintry of the high ground in scotland. the wind during the day, easing off, not as windy, the day, easing off, not as windy, the stronger winds will push back into scotland and northern ireland. those temperatures will be dropping away as we lose the wetter weather
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and introduce showers and colder air, scotland and northern ireland only six or 7 degrees. here, as you get the central storm dennis getting closer during sunday evening on sunday night, we may well find a squeeze on the wind gusting 70 or 80 mph in the north of scotland. as enters monday itself, the storm tending to head away, we have some strong to gale force winds, that bring sunshine and showers, maybe some longer spells of rain that will continue into tuesday as well.
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this is bbc news. i'm rebecca jones. the headlines at 5pm. troops are deployed to west yorkshire as heavy rain and strong winds batter parts of the uk. forecasters predict a months worth of rain in some places. dozens of flood warnings are in place across britain. hundreds of flights are cancelled, trains services are disrupted, and sporting fixtures called off. the first death from coronavirus in europe is recorded in france. people returning to beijing risk punishment if they don't go into quarantine for 1h days. phone, broadband and pay—tv service providers are now obliged to tell customers when their contracts are coming to an end, under new rules. the duchess of cambridge says her "amazing granny"

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