tv Outside Source BBC News February 17, 2020 9:00pm-10:01pm GMT
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hello, i'm ros atkins, this is outside source. you know all about this boat — quarantined injapan, hundreds of cases of coronavirus, thousands on board — and all using a tactic some doctors are calling an unprecedented failure. rupert wingfield hayes is there. passengers had been told if they tested negative, they would then be allowed to go home. but with 99 new viral cases confirmed today, the overwhelming suspicion is the quarantine is not working. meanwhile in hubei in china — you have to get your temperature ta ken before getting a food delivery. and this footage from social media appears to give us an idea of the pressure on hospitals there. full coronavirus update in a moment. i'll play a new bbc report on new evidence on china's crackdown on muslim minorities. it suggests some people were held in detention camps for having beards or wearing veils.
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and the taliban says it's reached a deal with the us to end 18 years of conflict in afghanistan. lyse doucet will be here to tell us if this really could be the deal that does it. 2,000 news cases of the coronavirus in china this monday. and while the authorities say the infection rate is falling, the world health organisation says we can't know if it's peaked. the data also appeared to show a decline in new cases. this trend must be interpreted very cautiously. trends can change as new populations are affected. it's too early to tell if this purported decline will continue. every scenario is still on the table.
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—— reported decline. this is a live map from johns hopkins university, it shows cases around the world. there are now more than 70,000 cases in mainland china, and over 1,700 people have died. most of those deaths are in hubei province. these pictures are from chinese tv. this is a new temporary hospital in wuhan which is the capital of hubei. the reality for many people there may well be very different. this is unverified footage posted on social media apparently showing another hospital in wuhan. and the restrictions on people in hubei are only increasing. 60 million people have been ordered to stay at home. one person per household is allowed every three days to get food. this person has to get a temperature check before receiving a food delivery. and you can see here people are developing innovative ways of exercising at home — this fitness trainer has started her own online class.
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the chinese authorities are now considering postponing the annual session of parliament which due to begin on march 5. and while they make that decision, they've already been hosting a world health organization delegation. this is who spokesperson margaret harris. so, it's at the stage where we need to look at what's happened in china and consider all the evidence. as you know, there is a mission right now. we are not giving much information about that, we are letting the scientists get on with their work with their counterparts. but the idea that there is to have a really full, free, and frank exchange. look at what has worked, look is not worked, and what can be done differently. and also what needs to be applied to the rest of the world. across the border in hong kong, there are 58 confirmed cases. and there are shortages of hand sanitiser, face masks and toliet paper —
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as people stockpiling. this is the scene outside one supermarket in the mongkok district of hong kong earlier. men armed with knives robbed a delivery man of hundreds of rolls. martin yip was there. ijust went inside, and requisites have stalled around 1—2,000 toilet rolls is still empty. although, according to my family and others are turning today, fortunately the other thing that was on panic buying just a week ago — rice — is now back on shelves. it's reasonably stock here, so some good news here. test reasonably in stock. thank you very much for your time. there are so very much for your time. there are so many elements to the story now, help us step back a little and judge where we got to on this crisis.|j
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think you're quite right the number of cases in china do seem to be declining. there's been a little bit of uncertainty over that because the way the chinese had to change the way the chinese had to change the way they retort to make a reported clinical cases. and i suppose that was because they were getting somewhat short on agents, but i don't know if that's for certain. so it is looking good from the point of view of hubei province. the problem is what's happening elsewhere at the world. at the moment, the rest of china appear to be decreasing in cases day by day. there's appears to be 5-25 cases day by day. there's appears to be 5—25 cases a day internationally if you exclude the diamond princess cases. but the big concern is that just as we are starting to get a
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handle on the wuhan cases that another focus might kick off and we might start dust might start seeing uncontrolled person—to—person transmission elsewhere. and if that does happen, that could be the precursor of a global pandemic, which would involve many cases all over the world. but as yet, that is not inevitable. things are looking reasonably good at the moment, but we mustn't be overconfident. and are you satisfied that whatever realistic measures can be taken are being taken to prevent a pandemic and emerging? it's difficult to see what else they could do, the chinese could do at the moment. i suspect they have implemented control measures which would be at the least difficult, if not impossible to enforce in most western countries. and ifor one don't
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enforce in most western countries. and i for one don't really know what else they could do to do more to prevent the spread of this infection. and to be clear, any expectation of a vaccine or something that could help in the long run will take an awfully long time to arrive? well, i've heard varying estimates of this. at the earliest will be probably at the end of this year, maybe early next. now it's possible that the disease itself would burn itself out during the summer, as sars did. but i suspect not, i suspect that it will, if anything, come back in the winter at the end of this year. and if that is the case, then hopefully it will not be long until we have a vaccine and enough vaccinations to protect oui’ and enough vaccinations to protect our most vulnerable people, the elderly and our health care workers. professor, we thank you for your time. the french parliament is discussing government proposals on pensions.
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it's a moment of huge political importance, because there have been weeks of protests and strikes about these reforms. emmanuel macron wants to introduce a single system to replace a variety of different arrangements. some see it as an attack on their rights. these are protesters in paris today. unions say the pension reforms will force millions to work beyond the current retirement age of 62. this is the lower house of the french parlliament. president emmanuel macron wants the package approved before next month's nationwide local elections. 0pposition politicians aren't keen — they‘ re tabling thousands of amendments to frustrate the government's timetable. and i mean thousands — over 40,000. the rolling transport strikes that crippled paris in december and january have subsided, but the more radical unions are now planning sporadic days of action. here's the view of one bus
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driver on these reforms. translation: the impact would be to lower the level of people's pensions. already many pensioners are living in absolute misery, and this law would make things even worse. it's not acceptable. for some, the issue goes beyond pensions. here are some university students. they are not just about "i want a good pension," they are about, "i want a good life, i want a life with dignity. i want a life where i'm not continually euro—by—euro." it's neverjust a reform — a pension reform. it's also just a general move towards some society that we don't want. for the government, the pressure from the street has clearly diminished to some degree. here's the view from one minister. they're pretty determined. and i think the main enemy is maybe emmanuel macron, the president. but also, there's a bit of an insurrection or flavour the demonstrations. they could actually question
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the modern democracy as it stands. many presidents before emmanuel macron have tried to reform france's pension system, all have failed. this is the current approach. france puts 14% of its gdp into pensions — it's the third—biggest spender on pensions among developed nations. greece and italy are ahead, in case you're wondering. the french system is complex. there are 42 different types of pension schemes with different retirement ages and benefits. so while the country's legal retirement age is 62, people with "special regimes" such as sncf train drivers and metro drivers are able to retire from as early as 55. these special regimes were brought in to compensate people with physically demanding or dangerous work. the special status for rail workers was created in 1920 when conditions were tough — it's still hard work, but some argue not as hard as it was in 1920. and these special schemes bring down the average age
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of retirement in france to 60. the european average is 63. president macron has promised he will not change the legal retirement of 62. but he does want to streamline the 42 different schemes into one universal pensions system. it would mean fewer people being able to take early retirement. this would drive up the average retirement age closer to 62. here are the thoughts of hugh schofield in paris. anne—elisabeth moutet in paris. so this is a complicated but important story. help me understand the process, tell me about these 40,000 amendments? of 40,000 amendments have been tabled by both the opposition on the left and on the opposition on the left and on the right. they know perfectly well that if you follow normal procedure in the house, it is absolutely impossible to conclude the debate and pass the law in three weeks as the president likes. so what happens
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is when they vote, the president will have to ram this through to a specific article known as article 49.3, meaning there is no vote — a single vote, not on amendments. and if the government loses the majority, the government is then in danger of having to be changed. but if the government passes, then the bill is not discussed and it is passed through. when i say not discussed, there's time for discussion going on into the night in the next few nights. but that also means a defeat for the government, the 49.3 is a sort of last resort in french politics and a lwa ys last resort in french politics and always has consequences on the prime minister or the president who has used it. so that's what they really want. meanwhile there's another conference going on which is probably more important because it isa probably more important because it is a conference not about the impossible but the possible. it's
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about the financing of pensions, between the three partners who actually manage the system, once we got the system going again, and that's the bosses, the unions and the government. they are looking at what is feasible considering the pot in itself, how do you finance all this? that is supposed to end in april. and underneath all this, is it president macron‘s belief that this is simply too expensive, france can't afford to carry on this way? to some extent i think yes, because you had eight people paying the pension of one pensioner in 1946, when the pay—as—you—go system was created. now you have two. that is not viable. there are simple ways of reforming and i believe that mr macron is the top bureaucrat... the french civil service built something
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that looked up to be wonderful techno— corporate side, but it is a really, gated side in which they both wanted to make the age of the pension viable and he wanted to change the system. and it is always difficult, i used to have an old editor who told me that you cannot tell snow white and cinderella in the same story, and that's what he's been trying to do. that's a good message, i'll remember that one. good to speak to you as always, we'll keep you lookjust a close eye in how that plays out in paris. stay with us on outside source — still to come... the eu is wanting to bring in tougher rules and penalties on firms that fail to curb hate speech. we will give you an update on that. the us secretary of state, mike pompeo, is making his first official visit to africa. he's already been to senegal, where he discussed security, and angola, where he praised the government's anti—coruption drive. his next stop is ethiopia, where he'll meet the prime minister, as well as representatives of the african union.
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the bbc‘s kalkidan yibeltal sent us this report from the ethiopian capital addis ababa. ethiopia has been a key us partner in fighting terrorism, particularly in tackling the threat of al—shabaab. but his visit comes in the time when the us is seeking to reduce its military presence in africa. also on the agenda will be the $5 billion us renaissance dam, which is currently under construction in western ethiopia, and causing conflicts with another us ally, egypt. the us and world bank are mediating talks to find a solution, but compromise does not appear to come easy. this is outside source live from the bbc newsroom. our lead story... two planes carrying hundreds of us
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citizens from a coronavirus—hit cruise ship injapan have arrived in the us. the ship, with some 3,700 passengers and crew, has been in quarantine for two weeks. here's the other stories from the wc world service. —— bbc world service... the speaker of the us house of representatives nancy pelosi has been warning european officials against allowing the chinese firm huawei to build 5g communications networks. she's told officials in brussels said it would be like putting the chinese state police in the pocket of everyone who uses the information highway. the authorities in ireland are warning the public to stay away from a so called ghost ship, which washed up on rocks near cork on sunday. the mv alta became disabled south of bermuda in 2018 and has been drifting without a crew for more than a year. mark zuckerberg was in brussels today, meeting top european commissioners to discuss facebook‘s plans for regulation and tax.
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but he got a hostile reception from a top eu chief, industry commissioner thierry breton, who warned that big tech firms face tougher rules and penalties in europe, if they fail to curb hate speech and disinformation. chiyo robertson joins us. quite a pack agenda for both? the facebook boss was in orjust brussels today. central to that plan was his idea of having a single global regulator, a single policy for all online platforms. he also wa nted for all online platforms. he also wanted technology firms like facebook to be given much more flexibility in experimenting, the board he used, with technologies for moderating online platforms. this plan was firmly rejected by the industry chairman, saying it simply was not enough. he also came down ha rd was not enough. he also came down hard on them saying that if facebook
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failed to get its act together that when it came to things like monitoring harmful content and disseminating disinformation, he would find them by the end of the year. did they talk about tax? that's a subject that always comes up. that's a big problem with us tech firms, because they make huge amounts of revenue in europe and they don't pay that much tax, according to european governments. they want to be taxed more. france has proposed a digital tax, but france had to put that on hold in the uk is working out how to do that. in the meantime, mark zuckerberg said he wanted to work with the oecd. that's the body trying to harmonize global taxes, and he said he wanted to harmonize global solution, an interesting line because it is contrary to what america wants. the us has always said these tech firms should be taxed at home back in the state. speaking of tech firms and tax, speaking of amazon, jeff baeza as has been giving away a lot of money but not to the tax? that's correct.
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when the world's richest man pledges money to help fight climate change, it must be a big song. putting it in perspective, he's promised $10 billion to fund work by scientists, activists and other groups. and he will begin handing money out from that fund over the summer. but mr ba eza that fund over the summer. but mr baeza is worth $130 billion, it is eye watering. that's roughly 8% of his worth. it's also worth remembering that in the last three months, amazon made revenues of around $87 billion. so he's been under intense pressure from customers, politicians, employees who have been protesting to do more after his business doesn't contribute to a lot of packaging, vehicles driving around delivering those packages. they basically put him under pressure in the last few yea rs him under pressure in the last few years to do more to help combat climate change. thank you very much indeed. let's stay with business
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stories. travel restrictions on those living in china are having a major impact on the global travel and hospitality industry. chinese people make up one in eight of tourists globally. our global trade correspondent dharshini david has been finding out how one uk attarction has been hit. the birthplace of sir winston churchill, and a stunning example of baroque architecture. blenheim palace, just outside oxford, would normally attract 50,000 visitors in february. but this time, demand is down as travel restrictions in china hit. in the last two weeks it will be quite significant, this would have been a busy period for chinese new year tourists and we expect across february to lose 5,000 chinese visits, about 10% of the natural february audience. it's a similar story in the historic university town a few miles away. the blend of heritage, culture and access to luxury shopping that makes this area so attractive to chinese tourists. over 400,000 visited the uk last year.
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but that's dropping sharply. one property here told me it typically sees 50 customers a week from china for its walking tours, now it's not seeing any. nearby the plough inn, shot to global fame when the chinese president xi and former prime minister david cameron stopped by for a pint in 2015. as the coach parties followed, the pub was bought by a chinese investor, earning him a slice of the £10 billion tourists spend in the uk every year. a draw here is sitting at the same bar with a plate of fish and chips as their leader. that's what it is. they wanted to emulate the leader. they take all the selfies and it's just so i suppose they can go back home and say, we've done it, we've been there. in recent weeks it's been, the last three weeks, zero. no chinese tourists at all. it's just one of those things.
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i hope this virus then gets sorted out pretty sharpish, we can get back to seeing more visitors. even bicester village, a shopping spot for tourists looking to avoid high import taxes on luxuries at home, feels unusually quiet. its owners refused to comment, retailers here confided sales are down sharply. with bad weather not helping. two million people across the uk rely on tourism for a living. the virus that is exerting a high human cost thousands of miles away, is having a considerable financial side effect here. let me update you on the latest political drama in westminster. this is a andrew sabisky — a self—styled superforecaster — and a man whose apparent views on eugenics, race and women mean you wouldn't need to be a superforecaster to predict that giving him a job as a government adviser would cause problems. and so it's proved —
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and he's just quit. here he is tweeting in the last few hours... earlier today, borisjohson‘s spokesperson refused to say whether the prime minister condemned posts under andrew sabisky‘s name. see what you think of them. mr sabisky was appointed by mrjohnson‘s main adviser dominic cummings who put out a job ad calling for "misfits and weirdos" tojoin him in trying to shake up government. indeed — he'd been posting on mr cumming's website. or at least a user called "andrew sabisky" posted in 2014. in that post, he says... in a comment on a different website,
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what appears to be the same user claims black americans had a lower average iq than white people and were more likely to have an "intellectual disability". and in another post, a user with his name writes... in 2016, mr sabisky suggested to schools week that the benefits of a drug that might help brain function, but that can also prove fatal, are "probably worth a dead kid once a year". stay with me — there's more. there was another tweet in 2019. mr sabisky says selective quoting is the issue, many other suggests that's the least of his problems. the opposition labour party wanted him gone.
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caroline nokes says... as for the government — environment secretary george eustice said it was a... which indeed it was was — but they said nothing and then mr sabisky resigned. but they said nothing and then so but they said nothing and then his role in the govei no so his role in the government will no longer continue. for more background on that, visit our website. it is worth adding if you wa nt website. it is worth adding if you want further context particularly on coronavirus, you can also find the online as well the stop in a few minutes, we'll be hearing about what has potentially been a huge moment for afghanistan, the taliban is saying it has an agreement with the americans which could bring to an end their 18 year conflict. we will run you through what that agreement
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looks like and assess the chances of success. see you in a minute. good evening. storm dennis has of course been wreaking havoc in parts of the uk over the last couple days, but the storm as a whole has actually been affecting the weather across a much, much wider area, even down to the mediterranean. a satellite picture to show you the extent of the storms, this massive curl of cloud here, you can argue it is all part of the same weather system, part of storm deadness driven by a powerfuljet stream. it has also meant that very warm air has also meant that very warm air has been spreading into some southern parts of europe, recently for example with temperatures in france being in the high 20s in a few spots. some of that warmth spreads into the central areas of europe, different air currents
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associated with storm dennis interacting with mountainous regions in europe, which has meant that in poland, around about midnight, the temperature was hovering around 17-18dc. so temperature was hovering around 17—18dc. so all sorts of weather phenomenon associated with that one storm that has been sitting across the north atlantic and bringing ferocious weather to the uk. we still are feeling the effects of the storm for tuesday across europe. lots of mild air spreading across the continent and even colder air expected in helsinki and moscow, around seven celsius. this mild pattern will continue into wednesday as well. in fact a new weather systems a re as well. in fact a new weather systems are expected to brew in the atlantic, but not as severe as the recent storms that will be heading towards the uk and bringing some u nsettled towards the uk and bringing some unsettled weather, or whether. to that south, we have places like spain and portugal enjoying some fine conditions. central cities of
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europe are above average for the time of year, temperatures 12 celsius in paris and warsaw, still above the average. if you want something sunnier, portugal is the place to be. in fact as far as the i can see, it is the weekend, and the weather conditions will be very pleasant. moving into the low 20s. we often talk about the weather travelling from west to east for the united states, and that has been the case the last couple weekends running. we've seen a powerfuljet strea m running. we've seen a powerfuljet stream blowing out of the us, being driven by a big different tobacco temperature contrast. you can see the forecast hitting the arctic regions, lower air creating a powerful jet stream. but there's colder weather on the way. major us cities like new york will see cold conditions, same with chicago and even miami, a little cooler in the next few days. here back in the —— home, we have forecast coming in the half—hour. still looking unsettled for the next few days with spells of
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hello, i'm ros atkins, this is outside source. you know about this boat quarantined injapan you know about this boat quarantined in japan that you know about this boat quarantined injapan that has hundreds of cases on board of coronavirus. rupert wingfield hayes has more. the quarantine is supposed to end on wednesday, passengers have been told if they were tube test negative they could go home. but with 99 new viral cases confirmed today, the overwhelming suspicion is the quarantine is not working. the centre of this crisis is this province hubei. and according to evidence the pressure on hubei is
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enormous. there are reports of people held individual camps in china for having beers or wearing veils. in the tele— band has reached deal with the us. not that simple as we will go through it later. this cruise ship the diamond princess has the largest cluster of coronavirus cases outside of china. it's docked in yokahama injapan. 99 more cases have been confirmed today, taking the total past 400 cases. there were over 3500 people on board. but some have left. over 300 americans were flown home overnight. 14 tested positive despite testing negative a few days earlier. but not all americans on the diamond princess have left. this passenger has opted
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to stay quarantined. even assuming some of the infections were acquired during the quarantine, we don't know how they were acquired, and... but it is certainly possible they were acquired by people who were not following the rules of the quarantine. for example, while we don't have access to the decks to see how people are behaving during their open deck time, we do have access to our balcony, and throughout the quarantine period, we have seen people on their balconies speaking with each other within feet of each other separated by the barrier between the balconies, but with no real sense that they should be staying away from the person on the other side of the barrier. certainly the quarantine system on board the cruise ship has not been a success. the process began in yokohama on the 3rd of february. that was after a passenger who disembarked in hong kong tested positive.
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by the 5th of february, hong kong imposed a quarantine on all visitors from mainland china. at least ten people on board had tested positive. by the 7th of february, when the uk was evacuating its citizens from wuhan 61 people on board had tested positive. as of today, there are 454 cases on the ship. this manila bulletin article says that 27 filipino crew are among that total. here's more from the american passenger we heard from earlier. we have been 14 days either within the cabin itself or occasionally out on the balcony, and the process that was quickly established following the institution of the quarantine was the crew bringing meals three times a day, we get a choice of both lunch and dinner, and they drop them off.
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they handed it to us at the door, again, like i said, wearing gloves and plastic aprons and a mask and with hand sanitizer in their possession. interesting quote from one doctor in this new york times article. talking of the risk move people back to the us.. but this approach is still going on right now. rupert wingfield hayes has more. the quarantine is supposed to end on wednesday, passengers have been told if they were tube test negative they could go home. but with 99 new viral cases confirmed today, the overwhelming suspicion is the quarantine is not working.
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because of that, the journey home for those left on board is now looking a lot more complicated. australia now says it is sending a fight to evacuate its nationals. but when i spoke to one of them, she was not enthusiastic. we're finding the thought of being put on a plane with unknown people who haven't been tested yet and potentially getting the infection right then after we've already completed two weeks of almost two weeks of quarantine not ideal. japan meanwhile is starting to feel the effects of the virus' spread. next weekend is the emperor's birthday, a celebration that usually gathers crowds of well—wishers. today, the whole event was cancelled without warning. the bbc has seen documents that appear to give an unprecedented
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insight into how china monitors thousands of uighur muslims who've been held in a network of internment camps in the far western xinjiang region of the country. personal aspects of the daily life of individuals have been listed in painstaking detail, such as how often they pray, whether they wear a veil or how their family members behave. china has always denied any religious crackdown, and says the measures are aimed at preventing terrorism. our diplomatic correspondent james landale reports. for two years now, the bbc has reported on camps like these in western china. a vast network of high—security facilities where about1 million uighurs and other minorities have been detained without trial. now we can report in more detail than ever on how and why they are detained. the chinese authorities call the camps "vocational re—education centres", where uighurs are brought
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to learn chinese and communist party doctrine, supposedly a way of preventing extremist terrorism. but a leaked document suggests these camps are part of a huge crackdown on religious practice. the 137—page spreadsheet sets out in huge detail why more than 300 uighurs from one particular county in xinjiang province were considered for detention. some were detained because they had applied for a passport, had relatives abroad or even because they had unintentionally landed on a foreign website while searching the internet. others were held because they used to grow a long beard or used to wear a veil. others because they had a "minor religious infection". the document was passed on to this woman, an uighurexile living in amsterdam, who decided to make it public. translation: of course i am worried about the safety of my relatives and friends, but if everyone keeps silent because they want to protect themselves and their families,
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we will never prevent these crimes being committed. the document is hard to verify 100%, but experts who have examined it told me they believe it is genuine. the entire internment campaign and the reasoning behind it reveals a very detailed and in itself internally consistent worldview, one which we might liken to the ideology of a medieval witch hunt which is highly fearful of anything religious. but china insists these are what they call "vocational education centres". in a statement, the country's embassy in london said they were designed to tackle terrorism and religious extremism, and the only trainees were those convicted of unlawful or criminal acts. james landale, bbc news. every day it would be to be a story
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some world. on the face of it, a moment of huge importance for afghanistan. the taliban says it's agreed with the us to end their 18—year conflict. the announcement was made in doha where talks have been going on for over a year. we think the deal will be signed later this month but that a seven—day partial truce will come sooner than that. the afghan government's chief executive officer, abdullah abdullah, has hailed this as a new chapter for his country. but, and it's a big but, violent clashes between taliban fighters and afghan government forces continued this weekend. this is view of the un secretary general in new york. it is my hope that discussions will be productive in leading to a reduction in violence, especially violence toward civilians. reducing violence is critical to build confidence and support for the peace process that leads to a lasting political
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settlement and a permanent ceasefire. this conflict dates back to 2001 and the aftermath of the 9/11 attacks in new york and washington. the taliban, then in power in afghanistan, refused to hand over osama bin laden who'd masterminded the attacks. the us launched air strikes and drove the taliban from power. by 2004, a us—backed government was in place. but the taliban's resistance remained. ten years later, in 2014, nato ended its combat mission, leaving the afghan army to fight the taliban. the us continued its own scaled—back presence. but from here the taliban regained momentum and seized back some territory. and its insurgency continued. by 2018, the taliban said it would meet us officials to try to find a "road map to peace". but it refused to speak to the afghan government, which it dismissed as american "puppets". then last year, the two sides seemed close to an agreement.
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america announced it would begin to withdraw troops. but days later, president trump said the talks were "dead" after the taliban admitted killing a us soldier. now, here we are with an agreement. we think. but there are doubts, the main one being how can you have a deal if the afghan government's not been involved. this is meena baktash, head of the bbc‘s afghan service. at the moment, people from the taliban's negotiating team, as well as american officials have been speaking about ending the negotiations and finalizing a document as an agreement. as well as agreeing on seven days reduction of violence. but the point is that we do still not have any details of a delegation from the afghan side. you have to remember that taliban are not speaking to the afghan government directly. they say that they will speak to all afghans. for more analysis of what's
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actually been agreed, i've been speaking to the bbc‘s chief international correspondent, correspondent, lyse doucet. we have to believe it is one step away from war towards peace but there is a very long road ahead and many detours may be. this is not really a peace deal. this is an agreement between the united states for a phased and conditional pull—out of its troops in exchange for taliban security guarantees including it will not allow afghanistan to be a haven for extremist groups again. the hard work for the real peace will be when the afghans sit and talk and they still should pave the way for that. will the taliban even talked to the afg ha n will the taliban even talked to the afghan government? that is part of the commitment. if they want and this is their driving ambition to get all us troops out of afghanistan, we will see if it goes down to zero or if we have an
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understanding that there will be some counterterrorism forces they are, that they want that and to do that they have to meet a commitment which is they will speak to an afg ha n which is they will speak to an afghan delegation. again there will be semantics also will not be the afg ha n be semantics also will not be the afghan government as a government which will go to oslo perhaps after the deal is signed. but there will be people from the afghan government in that allegation but it is officially known as a government from the islamic republic of afghanistan. in the tele- band -- taliban as we know was in the idea ofa taliban as we know was in the idea of a strict islamic state for afghanistan. has it given up on that idea or does that still believe he should pursue that by all means? that is the big question. a million afg ha n that is the big question. a million afghan east question this and there isa fear afghan east question this and there is a fear they have not changed much at all. the taliban so they have changed and are not the same taliban which ruled as you just put it out with very harsh and a severe hand in the 1990s. but the big question is
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have the taliban changed as much as afghanistan has changed? the afghanistan has changed? the afghanistan up—to—date as my women simply not as doctors or teachers, they are cabinet ministers and ceos and human rights activists and leading institutions in the government. will the taliban accept that? all the taliban say is that they will allow women to work and will allow women to be educated and use this phrase women choosing their life partner in other words not be forced into arranged marriage but they would not be allowed to be president. but everything will be done according to islamic law. but which islamic law was meant islamic law of asia or of saudi arabia or of iran. there are some huge uncertainties and therefore deep fears. and the taliban will be tested. stay with us on outside source, still to come...
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itv‘s love island will air tonight for the first time since the suicide of its former presenter caroline flack. the 40—year—old was found dead in her flat in london on saturday. lucy manning reports. caroline flack, the day before she died. a valentine's day spent with some of those who loved her. just a day later, she took her own life. friends now remembering the happier times they had with her. it's the return of the flack. the tv presenter, the host of love island, had a job full of glamour and excitement. but in the months before, she had faced serious allegations — a court case her agent called a show trial, accused of assaulting her boyfriend, she was due back in court in a few weeks. he wasn't supporting the decision to charge her. when caroline flack appeared here at highbury magistrates‘ court, the court heard that she told police when she was arrested that she wanted to kill herself. many of her close friends think this
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case should never have happened, one writing on social media, "you were so poorly, you needed help. instead, they put you in a cell." but prosecutors believe it's important to pursue domestic abuse allegations. undoubtedly, they felt they had enough. i think they had a 999 call recording, a body camera worn by the police. they would have had other evidence. they have to take domestic abuse seriously because we as a country have said we should take it seriously. itv had replaced caroline flack as the presenter of love island until after her trial. it said it was devastated about her death, but has faced some criticism about the way it treated her. and the media has also been blamed. downing street said online companies must go further to remove u na cce pta ble content, and there are calls for greater press regulation.
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this is outside source live from the bbc newsroom. our lead story is... the coronavirus. two planes carrying hundreds of american citizens from a cruise ship injapan have arrived in the us full of the ship having over 3500 cat —— crew and personnel on board. quarantined for two weeks. let's bring you up to date on brexit. here is some wire copy from reuters. that europe adviser is this man, david frost. he's spent the day in brussels, setting out the uk's plans for a trade deal with the eu. he made those comments
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at a lecture to students. all this is a matter of some importance of course, but the uk government says it was a "private lecture" and only invited one journalist from a news agency. remember, the uk left the european union at the end of january, but it's in a transition period where it effectively continues to trade like an eu member. that period ends at the end of this year. a new trade deal is needed for then. and we await the start of the negotiations. here is adam fleming. they are writing michel barnier‘s mandate, the detailed set of instructions that will be given to the chief negotiator. in private, france is leading a sort of countries who are trying to get that language toughened up so there are more constraints applied to the uk in return for that being ambitious free—trade agreement that both sides say they want to do. we will see what they end up with when it is published and approved officially honorably in the middle of next week. adam mentioned france wanting to toughen up the eu's position. the french foreign minister
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is certainly talking tough. translation: i think that on trade issues and mechanism for future relations as we are going to start on, we are going to rip each other apart but that is part of a negotiation. elvire fabry is a senior researcher on trade policy at the jacques delors research institute in paris. i asked her what she made of the french foreign minister's comments. i think at this point there is not much surprise. we know that he is reflecting in a way the french position very clearly in position put forward by the president at the beginning. he dashed his priority is the european agenda. he wants to preserve the unity of the 27 and preserve the unity of the 27 and preserve the unity of the 27 and preserve the single market regulatory ecosystem. now, we don't have the detailed negotiating position from either side yet, but we do know the broad outlines. the eu has repeatedly told the uk it can't get the kind of free trade
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deal it wants if it doesn't abide by eu environmental and social standards — things like chemicals regulation, food labelling and subsidies for companies. the uk has repeatedly ruled out that kind of alignment. here's the bbc‘s norman smith explaning the uk government's position. borst also has made it clear that he does not want to be hemmed in by existing eu rules and he regards thatis existing eu rules and he regards that is counter to the whole point a bra kes that is counter to the whole point a brakes and he wants the freedom to diverge from those regulations. so it is very hard to see how this will be anything but a very bruising process. the argument in the british government is you have cut those sort of dealfor other government is you have cut those sort of deal for other countries like canada and japan where they are not stuck with eu rules and is a simple free—trade agreement and walking out of the same for britain? let's hear again from elvire fabry on whether the two sides will be able to brige the gap between them. at this stage, it is difficult to see what could be the common ground.
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when we consider the draft and the white lines that have been put forward and that need to be finalised by next week, we see that on the uk side, the willingness from borisjohnson to really on the uk side, the willingness from boris johnson to really concretize the brexit with regulatory autonomy concretely makes a very shrinking leeway for the negotiation of the second phase. and what it means on the eu side is i think that in the stage on the eu side, it is very clear that they have taken for granted that willingness to diverge from eu regulations but what it means then the way european approach is less they have a deep challenge to manage that divergence and rather that they starting point today is more that they consider the uk as a
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third country relying in a way already on wto terms theoretically of the starting point of the negotiation and what we need is to move forward from that initial point. which is a very different point. which is a very different point of view on the negotiation. and so it means at the moment we need to look forward is precisely that ground for negotiation. but we see that we can expect to have two months of very confrontational declaration and point of use at least. and before we move from a theoretical brexit to a more realistic brexit. flooding has hit a number of areas around the uk, after a weekend of extreme weather brought by storm dennis. one woman has died, and hundreds have been flooded out of their homes. and the water is still rising. almost 200 flood warnings remain in place around the country,
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with towns close to the river severn of greatest concern. here are some pictures i have come in hereford, rescue workers travel in boat and floatation craft to get people stranded in floods. these pictures are also from hereford, taken by melissa jane williams and carmelo garcia, showing just how badly flooded some of the areas are. here's some footage from worcester. if you look closely, you can see a couple waving to the helicopter out of the second floor window of their flooded out house. here's some pictures from wales showing cars strewn down a street, a house on the edge of collapsing into the river, and more flooded houses. there are also seven severe flood warnings in place, including areas in hampton bishop, upton upon severn, and uckinghall and that means there's a danger to life. phil mackie has been at upton upon severn. ifi if i had ifihada if i had a pound for every person i
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had heard say they have never seen the river this high, i would be a rich man. the environment agency has confirmed the river has never been higher. in hundreds of years, more than 6.5 metres, 20 feet. they have no close to the wide bridge here to traffic. have told pedestrians and cyclists the police shouting at them to get off and are being told it is not safe. this not the only part of the uk where there are real concerns this evening. the british government says its so far deployed five kilometres of flood barriers and environment agency staff have been providing on the ground assistance. here's the environment secretary george eustice. we have 1000 environment agency staff out in the field helping people prepare for the floods come helping them to evacuate some where of that is necessary and are monitoring things very closely in particular the river severn talents such as shrewsbury and to experian other areas looking at closely because water levels are to rise and
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some of those catchments. because water levels are to rise and some of those catchmentsm because water levels are to rise and some of those catchments. if you're watching in the uk on bbc news channel, find more information on the website. goodbye. hello there. after a stormy weekend, monday gave us the opportunity to assess some of the devastation that storm dennis brought us. in parts of south wales and the south—western midlands, we saw over a month's worth of rain in just 48 hours and there has been some severe flooding as you are well aware of. it does look as though it will stay pretty unsettled for the rest of the week. tuesday packed with plenty of isobars on the chart, and this mini weather front will enhance showers, so sunny spells and blustery showers once again. showers from the word go on tuesday with some heavy and hail and thunder and then as we go through the afternoon we see these organised bands of rain pushing through the north of england, the midlands and down into south wales just where we don't need it. it will be a blustery afternoon,
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but particularly as this front moves through we could see gusts of wind in excess of 50 mph. ahead of it it stays relatively mild and behind it somewhat cooler conditions to follow. there will be a spell of wet weather to clear the south—east through the night and then we see this brief ridge of high pressure building through the start of wednesday. for some but not for all, so wednesday could be the best day of the week in terms of drier, bright weather, particularly the further east you are. there will be lighter winds and more in the way of sunshine. further west, it could start off quite promising but we are not expecting it to last with the cloud arriving and wet and windy weather set to return by the end of the afternoon and here it is. as we go through wednesday night into thursday, there will be yet again a feed of wet weather through northern ireland into scotland and perhaps northwest england for a time. a south—westerly flow however means a milder start to thursday with temperatures around 6—9dc. we start off thursday with a northwest—southeast divide and not for the last with the wet
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weather will sweep south and east by the middle of the afternoon and tend to linger across eastern and south east england. behind it, scattered showers and with any elevation some of those could turn increasingly wintry with highs of 8—11. move out of thursday into friday again a brief ridge of high pressure builds but again not for long. another area of low pressure will move in as we go through the day on friday, so starting off dry and bright and maybe the south east should stay quite quiet for the end of the working week, but there is more wet and windy weather to come. and this sets us up as we head into the weekend. i wish i could tell you there is a change on the way, but as you can see, we are seeing one area of low pressure bringing yet more wind and rain across the country, only however to be replaced by yet another pushing in from the atlantic. so as we head towards the weekend, unfortunately it could be the third wet and windy weekend in a row with further spells of heavy rain and gales certainly an issue.
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it looks at the moment as though the heaviest could be further north and west. so it stays pretty unsettled. what about further ahead ? unfortunately we are really stuck in repeat mode because looking ahead to the 6—10 day period, we see another area of low pressure moving in, a brief ridge of high pressure builds but not for very long as the next low continues to move into the atlantic so the story remains the same. and that means we get some cooler spells replaced by milder air and then cooler air and milder air again so a real roller coaster in the feel of the weather as well as that wet and windy weather set to return. take care.
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