tv Victoria Derbyshire BBC News February 23, 2020 3:30pm-4:01pm GMT
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into the misc ii‘ul‘ei ‘ml‘? snow that has fallen into the hills could start to drift in strengthening gusty wind. rewind the clock to the morning to see what is happening elsewhere. a band of rain pushing south across the rest of england and wales, will be heavy at times. the clear to the far south—east as we go through the afternoon. behind it are brighter skies, a few showers start to move in. strong, gusty winds, may be gusting up to a0 to 50 mph in places. different range of temperatures across the uk but it is cold est temperatures across the uk but it is coldest where it is still snowing in scotland, even going into the evening rush hour. the snow will clear away monday night, turning icy and then for tuesday and wednesday, and then for tuesday and wednesday, a flow of cold air coming down from the north—west on which there will be plenty of showers. although it is colder, there will be some sunshine at times. it won't be wet all the time it isjust at times. it won't be wet all the time it is just showers. they may merge at times to give longer spells of wet weather but a colder, showery
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speu of wet weather but a colder, showery spell mid week and it looks like towards the end of the week is low pressure comes back, there could be more prolonged areas of rain moving back into the uk. so more rain at times this week, especially early and late in the week. a blustery week, it will be cold for a time and as we already established, it is not just rain, there is snow on the way for some of us. hello, this is bbc news with shaun ley. the headlines: more than 100 people who were evacuated from china because of coronavirus are released from isolation in milton keynes. the virus has spread to 21 countries — six people have now died in south korea. in italy, where more than 100 cases have been confirmed, this year's venice carnival has been cut short. tyson fury produces the best performance of his boxing life against deontay wilder, to become the new wbc heavyweight world champion. senator bernie sanders wins the nevada caucuses, cementing his status
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as the democratic front—runner for november's us presidential election. now on bbc news, some of the highlights of the past week's victoria derbyshire programme. hello and welcome. for the next half an hour we will show you some of the highlights of our award—winning journalism over the last week. in an exclusive interview with our programme, damejulie walters revealed she has been diagnosed with stage three bowel cancer. the hollywood actor, star of mamma mia!, billy elliott and educating rita told me the diagnosis was a shock. it came as she was working on her latest film, the secret garden, which is released in the spring. she says as a result of her illness, her perspective towards acting has completely changed, adding her latest film could potentially be her last.
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after surgery and chemotherapy, julie walters says her most recent scan shows she is all clear of the disease. thank you for talking to us. it is so good to see you again. you too. particularly given what you have been through in the last couple of years. how have you been? well, i am very well now, but obviously 18 months ago wasn't so good, when i was diagnosed with bowel cancer, stage three, two primary tumours in my large intestine. a year before that i had been to the gp because i had...indigestion, terrible indigestion and a slight bit of discomfort — really slight — and because my digestive system has never been brilliant, since my 20s really, i used to ignore symptoms anyway, but this wasn't just a bit, this indigestion. so i went and i saw my own gp. she said, "well, there is some inflammation."
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i said, "i'm fine now," because it had gone away when i saw her and she said, "ok, but if that comes back i want to see you again." well, it did come back, but i was so busy working, i thought, "0h!"... so she sent me to see a gastric surgeon and he said, "there happens to be a ct scan free, if you can stay here and have it." and i said, "yeah, let's get it done. i have a day off work. let's do it now because i don't know when i'm going to be free," you know? so they did it and of course a couple of days later, i get a message on my mobile and i was filming, saying, "professor kura nji would like to speak to you." and he said, "we found an abnormality," and i thought, "yeah." and he said, "in your intestine." i said, "right. what is it? " he said, "i'm worried it's cancer." so i said, "right." and he showed me on the ct scan and i could see it there, in my intestine right by my appendix and he said, "we can fix this." but at the time i was thinking, that's ridiculous. they must have made a mistake.
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i couldn't believe it. so i came out and then grant was waiting in the car because he had taken me. i said, "they're worried it's cancer. " and i'll neverforget his face and the tears. isaid, "grant..." then worried about him more than... but what were the effects on you? when a consultant says, "i'm worried it's cancer," your immediate reaction was...? shock. first of all shock. and i thought, right. and then you hold on to the positive, which was he said, "we can fix this." so the operation lasted a couple of hours? yeah. i went into hospital and had 30 centimetres, a foot, taken out of my colon, but the brilliant thing... it was in two of my lymph nodes as well and there were two of them, the tumours. they were primary, they weren't secondaries. but the brilliant thing about it was that it was in my bowel and if you catch colon cancer early, it is one of the best cancers that you can have.
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your wonderful friend victoria wood... yeah. ..two years previously to you being diagnosed, she died of cancer. yes. you must have thought of her when you got your diagnosis. oh, god, yeah. i thought of her loads and how frightened she must have been because at least i could have an operation. she couldn't, they couldn't operate where her cancer was. and so i did think about that, but the other thing i thought was, god, the last time i saw her was in the hospital, sitting by the bed and also i saw her at home and everything before that. and i thought, i had it at the same time. what do you think victoria wood would have said to you had you told her you had cancer as well? i think it might have given her a bit of hope, do you know, because i think it is like talking to you. because you have suffered as well — we are both survivors, not sufferers — i think... it's comforting. yeah. this is the real sort of public
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service information bit for people. your symptoms were you had a bit of stomach pain, bit of heartburn. yes. you'd had a bit of vomiting. yes. you hadn't had blood in your poo or bleeding or anything like that. so you had some of the symptoms of bowel cancer and not the others. yes. but i suppose what the message is is just go and make sure you get checked. if you've got... you see, my discomfort was really slight. you wouldn't go rushing, you certainly wouldn't go into a&e, you wouldn't do anything like that, but it shouldn't be there. if it's really a bit of something, you've got to get that checked. you mentioned work earlier and perhaps your perspective when it comes to acting has changed. oh, my god. my perspective towards acting has completely changed. i feel like the person before the operation is different to this person. i'm obviously the same person, but there has been a huge shift. the minute i was diagnosed, one of the things — you asked me
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how i felt afterwards — was obviously the shock about it, but also there was huge relief. it's really strange, in that, god, i can get off this merry—go—round. it felt like i was stepping off something and it was wonderful. because i was due to do a big series, two big series, one that year, one the year afterwards and a film, there were two films, and ijust didn't have to do any of it. wow. so could the secret garden be your last film? it's possible, yeah. possible. but, you know, something might come up, but i would approach it in a very different... it would have to be something i really engaged with and that didn't have a killing schedule, and that... i'm not saying i will never act again, but it has made me feel i don't have to do it at the moment. i don't feel i can go back to...certainly not six days a week,
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five days a week, five in the morning until seven o'clock at night, with a big part, having to learn lines and the stress of it. i can't explain what the stress is like. do you sleep the night before you're working, when you're on set? no, i don't sleep and my gut certainly doesn't work well. so all of that is not good, really. but it's so interesting to hear you say that. that you don't necessarily need it when it has been your life for decades. all those incredible parts. yes! well, i can't blame all of that on the cancer because i was getting a bitjaded and i was doing it because i like being around everybody and... doing stuff but it didn't have the excitement or the drive that it used to have. if you were starting your career now, you'd have all the scrutiny of social media. i know. the news and the showbiz websites, the intensity of that — how would you deal with that?
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very difficult because i have nothing to do with social media. no. why? i mean, i'm private enough. you are at the mercy of opinion enough without that, without any old tom, dick or harry coming up and saying, "you look old," or "you look fat," or, "your acting is dreadful." i don't need that, thanks. i can question those things enough myself. so you know, if you are slightly fragile and you've got a wall of that coming at you, it's unhealthy, it makes people ill and poor old caroline flack is a big example of that. do you know yeats? the wine lodge? no, wb yeats, the poet. no. # if you change your mind, i'm the first in line #. what's the soup of the day, please? i'lljust go and find out.
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just in case the secret garden is your last film...i mean, i heard what you said, you're not retiring, you made that very clear, butjust in case it is your last film, what is the role that you have loved the most? it's very hard to choose. i know, i know. i'm going to make you. there's two sides to it. i think there is the theatre sides and they are the most exciting and i'd say all my sons at the national theatre was my favourite. it was a wonderful thing to do. then there are categories i suppose, that's why. i mean mrs 0verall stands out massively. a silly way of trying to draw attention to myself! and also i think things like playing mo on channel a, mo mowlam. so, the symptoms, the... disinhibition and the
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personality change, they can go back that far? yes. 0h. so good old mo, a mo that everybody loves, larger—than—life mo... that might all be because of the tumour. did you have chemotherapy? yeah. and i said to grant going in, i'm not going to have chemotherapy. i am not having it because i know i willjust get really ill and i'm feeling great. i'm not going to interfere with it. we come out and i'm saying, i'd better have it, hadn't i? and he said, yeah. i would have it. and i said, ok. i will never forget taking the first lot. these were tablets, rather than an infusion? yeah. and i took the tablets and my hand was shaking. ifelt like i was killing myself that night when i took it, but that was fine. except my tongue swelled up and i was doing a voiceover. i didn't lose my hair either. and how are you now?
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i'm really well. as far as i know, touching wood, i've just had a scan on monday and i know that that is clear. so that's a bit of a whoop—dee—doo kind of moment. you don't realise how anxious you are before those things. bowel cancer, because it involves your bottom, it can stop people going to the doctor's because they are embarrassed or they are afraid. what would you say to them about that? what would you say to people? it's part of your digestive system, it's just what digests your food. you just have to remember that. and you've got to go and get things checked and doctors are used to bottoms, they've got one themselves. hopefully. you know. and if you are affected by any of the issues raised in our conversation, you can find support via the bbc action line at... if you need help there are loads of organisations listed there who can do that and you can
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also call forfree... on monday we devoted much of our programme to talking to children and teenagers who look after their mums and dads and sometimes their brothers and sisters too. they are called young carers but that doesn't tell you the half of it. young carers spend an average of 25 hours a week looking after loved ones. that is the equivalent of a £12,000 a year part—time carer's job. that is according to new research exclusively seen by our programme from the charity action for children. we put together a group of these young people to hear the experiences of looking after a relative. hi, chloe. how are you? i'm good, thanks. thanks for coming on our programme, chloe. you look after your mum full—time, your dad part—time, he's an alcoholic and lives somewhere else. yeah. you look after your nine—year—old sister and your six—year—old brother. yeah. how is that for you? it's tiring. because i'm a child and i'm expected to have an education and go
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to school but still i'm expected to be the adult in the family and help look after them. it's just... it's tiring because there's times where you think you haven't done enough or you feel like you have let them down because one day you might not have done the washing up like you was meant to. what is your routine in the mornings? i get up and then i get myself ready and then it's quite rushed, because i live quite far from school. it's normally helping my brother and sister and seeing my mum for a bit and then i have to rush to school. and since what age have you had to be responsible for making sure your mum gets the right medication? what kind of medication does she need? she takes antidepressants and anxiety tablets and sometimes sleeping tablets, and i was probably about 13, 12, 13 when i started helping her take them. 0k. does that feel like a big responsibility for you? yeah. because if she doesn't take
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one or if she misses something or it's too late, and it's my responsibility, it's my fault and then it's the guilt of me letting her down again. it's like i should have made sure she is safe when i shouldn't have to, but it has been placed on me. you are 16 now, as i said, and i asked you if we can talk about this bit which is coming next. when you were 1a, year nine, it all got a bit too much for you, didn't it? yeah. i tried to take my own life in 2018 because i had my mum and i had my family there, but being a supporter and being a carer, it felt like i was being the parent and everyone says that when you need help, you should always go to your mum but when i was looking after her, it was like i was the mum so in a way i had no one to turn to and i did feel alone. i had a lot of stress
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and even though people were around me and i smiled, it was like i was screaming and no one noticed that. oh, my god. the way you talk about that, chloe, it is utterly heartbreaking, it really is. what kind of impact is being a carer had on you as an individual, as a young woman growing up and also on your education? i had a really low attendance in year nine because of what happened and they started saying they were going to fine my mum and that took a lot of stress on me. and then in general it's like, the relationship i have with my brother and sister and my mum, it's amazing because i am closer to them than an average child is, but it also affects me because i don't get to go out as much as my friends do and i don't have the sister and brother and sister and sister relationship with them,
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i have more of the... i'm like a co—parent. it hurts because i see them at times as like my children. that shouldn't be right, that shouldn't happen. thank you, chloe. i'm going to bring josh in. hi, josh. how are you? good, thanks. thank you for coming on our programme. what is the best thing about looking after, helping to look after your little brother harry? it is really fun, but he always laughs and makes it a game so it's really fun to do. what are the kinds of things you do to help him every day? i help mum and dad by cleaning his teeth, getting him changed, reading a book with him and i often have to chase after him before he gets to a road to stop him. thank god you are there to stop him crossing the road. i know sometimes you say that people can't understand what he is saying.
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he has down‘s syndrome and what do you do when that happens? i am the only one, i am basically his communicator because i am the only one that can talk with him because other people are like, what is he saying? i get it right every time. what are people like at school about you both? some people think i am a liar about the things i do and some just know what i do and they are like, well done, but some are like, you are not doing it, you are a liar. so they don't believe you have to do all the things you do effectively. alicia, when you were 13, your mum was heavily pregnant and she actually went into labour at home and you delivered your mum's baby. yes. i was in year eight at the time.
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i think it was 11 o'clock on the night and my mum had come into the room, i think i am in labour. i had to call the ambulance. i had to get loads of blankets and everything and had to place them around her, but before the ambulance arrived, my little sister had already come so i had to catch her sort of. it was really scary because that whole experience was just like, i definitely don't want to be a midwife, i know that for certain. thank goodness you were there. how much school have you had to miss because you help look after your mum? thankfully i don't miss a lot of school, i'm in college now so obviously i don't have, like, i'd say it's a full timetable but i don't have five lessons a day. i do have free periods
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and on a thursday, i don't start until 11 and on a friday, i finish at 11 and sometimes half past two. my timetable is quite flexible because it is not as... has being a carer affected your grades? definitely. in year 11 when i was doing my mock exams, i was really stressed out and i did end up failing quite a lot of them. i wasn't revising and i was just stressing myself out and then it did get better. so i did end up passing all my gcses. well done. you can watch the full a0 minute segment with those children and teenagers. just go to our website. finally we revealed that trans patients are waiting up to three years to see specialists and some are choosing to self medicate with hormone support online.
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——bought. freedom of information data we obtained exclusively found that in all but one of the uk's13 gender identity clinics, you could end up waiting over a year to be seen. in belfast you could wait up to 166 weeks. in nottinghamshire up to 1a5. in england the target waiting time is 18 weeks. cora is a 20—year—old law student. she has been on the waiting list for a gender identity clinic for two years so far. last summer she started self—medicating with oestrogen pills bought online. she is aware of the dangers both physically and mentally. but with all risks considered, for cara and many others, she saw it as her only option. i was so low before that it basically felt like a choice between suicide or self—medicating because i couldn't deal with the thought of masculinisation.
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were you nervous the first time you took the pills because you didn't know what they were, where they came from? i was so scared. i don't know anything about those tablets specifically. i haven't got the funds to get it tested so it is like kind of a guessing game of your life because they could be anything, you really don't know. i was petrified. data obtained exclusively by the bbc has found every trust in england is consistently missing the target of 18 weeks. in northern ireland their target is to be seen within 52 weeks but patients will wait over three years. wales and scotland don't have targets, but the islands are home ——highlands. to the uk's shortest waiting time at 32 weeks. london's tavistock clinic were not able to provide accurate figures but anecdotal evidence points to patients waiting 2.5 years to be seen.
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nottingham has the longest wait in england atjust under three years. doctor grainne coakley at sheffield's gender identity clinic acknowledges wait times contribute to self—medication but would caution against it. if you take testosterone there is the risk of a condition which can lead to spontaneous clotting of the blood. again there is an increased risk of clotting with oestrogen. if that is not monitored, someone having regular tests, they are putting themselves at risk. we bought hormone products. they were from unregulated websites based outside the uk. we tested their authenticity. the oestrogen products appear to be authentic but the testosterone contained only one out of the four ingredients it claimed to, meaning it is a counterfeit product and potentially unsafe to use. lucas began his transition six years ago when he was 29.
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after being told he would face a 2.5 year wait for a gender identity clinic appointment, he took matters into his own hands and bought testosterone online. the self—medication was scary and unpleasant and potentially dangerous, but it's better than the alternative. i will not be the only person who had this experience. you are also so relieved and excited. you kind of don't care. although none of them had an adverse reaction, i do feel like certainly the quality contained was much lower and i do suspect that a few of the doses i got were effectively nothing. for instance, i didn't start growing any facial hair at all until i moved on to actual prescribed testosterone. just explain for us how you feel when you are told you have got to wait two,
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two and a half years to even be seen? it is distressing and dehumanising. dozens and dozens and dozens of people misgender me at work because every call i take is, "thank you, miss," and that is just, it wasn't something i could do any more. people die on that waiting list. i know of at least one person who did. they committed suicide on that waiting list. it kills people and it cannot sit at the bottom of the nhs‘s to—do list for ever. at some point something is going to give and i don't know whether that will be a sufficient body count or what. if you are affected by issues raised in the film, do contact
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the bbc actionline either by phone or online... that is it for this week, you can contact the programme any time on twitter and do e—mail your stories... we are back live on monday morning, 10am. bbc two, the bbc news channel and online. thanks for watching. notjust rain, but some snow for some of us to start monday morning. the gap between weather systems is all too brief. yes, we have been seeing a bit of sunday sunshine indicated today, but that next weather system is on the way in. it is this area of low pressure and it will make for more wet weather whether you are in the uk, and with cold air as well, some snow around. northern england, ireland and scotla nd northern england, ireland and scotland in particular. here is the
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story this evening and night, the rain moving northwards into northern england, northern ireland, scotland as well. slushy rain and snow at low levels in places, more significant snow beginning to fall across higher ground, certainly in scotland as it moves its way further north. all of this makes for a really difficult morning commute and it will be messy out there. either way, you see the wet weather clearing away, snow that has fallen into higher ground will start to drift with gusty and strong winds. higher areas will certainly be affected and scotland as well, even to moderate hills. the rain will push through the rest of england and wales, clearing to brightest guys in the far south—east quite well on into the afternoon, with a few showers following on behind. gusty winds and a blustery day. across the south of the uk, of
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course it will be colder up in the north where you have some of the snow falling, even into the rush hourin snow falling, even into the rush hour in scotland. eventually that snow will clear away from scotland. it will be icy in places to start tuesday, but tuesday and wednesday have a flow of cold air coming in for the north—west, with some sunshine, but also showers, rain, hail, sleet and snow and even some rumbles of thunder. they will also be some drier moments as well. as we look at the extended forecast into the week, a colder, showers dealt midweek and towards the end of the week it looks like low pressure is going to come back that brings the prospect of some longer spells of wet weather yet again. some rain at times this week, more especially early and late in the week, and we will see some showers and it will turn cold at times, often blustery. it is not just turn cold at times, often blustery. it is notjust rain, some snow for some of us as well.
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this is bbc news i'm shaun ley. the headlines at apm: more than 100 people evacuated from china because of coronavirus — are released from isolation in milton keynes. the virus has spread to 21 countries — six people have now died in south korea. in italy, where more than 100 cases have been confirmed, this year's venice carnival has been cut short. tyson fury produces the best performance of his boxing career against deontay wilder — to become the new wbc heavyweight world champion. when i came here they said i can't punch. deontay wilder said himself i've got two pillow fists. but, you know, not bad for an old, fat guy who can't punch, hey? bernie sanders cements his status as the democratic front—runner to take on donald trump in november's us
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