tv Victoria Derbyshire BBC News March 7, 2020 4:30pm-5:01pm GMT
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it as soon the hope of introducing it as soon as possible. lets catch up with the weather. another unsettled weekend because we have low pressure sweeping in. wet weather in the west will transfer to the east overnight. there will be cooler air and blustery showers blowing in from the west with sunny spells in between. the winds are a feature ending the day this evening. 40-50 feature ending the day this evening. 40—50 mph gusts along with a heavy rain, spilling east. the heavier rain, spilling east. the heavier rain will be in the east by the end of the night. further west, blustery showers with clear spells. it will be cool in the north and milder in the south. when the weather clears away from the south—east through the morning and then a brighter day for many of us, lots of sunshine but also blustery showers, heavy and frequent in the north and west,
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where there will be a mixture of hail in them and winter us over the high ground. —— and wintry weather over the high ground. this is bbc news, the headlines... figures on the number of people diagnosed with coronavirus in the uk has increased, bringing the total to 206. 140 british people remain on board a cruise ship off the coast of san francisco where 21 passengers have tested positive for the virus. there is a rush for me to get off the ship, i have stage iv neuroendocrine cancer and my tumours
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are actively growing and it will not be easy to off—load the ship with 2500 passengers. a man in his 80s is the second person in the uk to have died after testing positive for the virus. milton keynes hospital is isolating those who came into contact with him. and £360 million will be paid out by insurance companies to help with the clean—up following damage from the storms dennis and ciara. now on bbc news, victoria derbyshire ta kes a now on bbc news, victoria derbyshire takes a look back at the some of the highlights from her programme this week. hello and welcome. for the next half an hourwe hello and welcome. for the next half an hour we will show you some of the highlights of our award—winning journalism in the last seven days.
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this week we revealed that aston villa and leicester have agreed to pay damages to five victims of a paedophile football scout put it both clubs have settled a civil case just weeks before it was due to be heard in the high court. the victims came forward as a result of an investigation by our programme in 2017. our reporter has been following the case. it's about a man called ted langford it was a football scout in the 80s and you can see him here in this newspaper picture which is the only photo we have. we think he was responsible, 01’ have. we think he was responsible, or suspect he was responsible for abusing dozens of boys in the 80s. he was convicted in 2007 and sent to prison for historical offences against four boys and was then released and died in 2012. and he was linked to leicester and aston villa? he was a part-time scout for both. in 2017 three years ago now,
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we spoke to a man called tony brian who was a former professional who went on to play for leicester and other clubs and he told us how he was abused as a 12—year—old. other clubs and he told us how he was abused as a 12-year-old. said the recently needed a spurn sample was so the recently needed a spurn sample was so that the leicester city could examine it to see if i had a gene inside of me that would make me become a footballer. a footballer's gene? yes. and being so young, you believe anything. after that interview people started coming forward and we can report that both clu bs forward and we can report that both clubs have now paid damages to a total of five victims that scout. the financial terms of the arrangement have not been formally disclosed. were not talking about life changing amounts of money, are we? definitely not. also important to point out that this was settled quite late in the day, just a couple
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of weeks before we expected the case to go to the high court. under the terms of the settlement, now the clu b terms of the settlement, now the club is formally accepting responsibility and nor have they issued a formal apology or even an informal apology put it there is another aspect which is important to the case put it when we first spoke to mr brian three years ago he told us to mr brian three years ago he told us he warned aston villa when he was a teenager about the behaviour of this scout and said he spoke to a man called dave richardson it was the assistant manager at the time and to graham taylor, who was the manager and went on to manage england. he felt through these conversations that he was dissuaded in some way from taking it any further and going public. in his words, he felt he was told to almost sweep the matter under the carpet. that is important because of some of the other alleged victims in the case? that's right, ted langford who was the scout was eventually sacked by aston villa because of his behaviour around young boys but we
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have seen documents that suggest or show that came much later, perhaps a year or show that came much later, perhaps a year 01’ even more show that came much later, perhaps a year or even more after tony brian said he spoke to be black the club. at least two of the five victims in this most recent case say they were abused after mr brian claims he came forward to raise the alarm and that is why the dates can be important. absolutely. what do the people involved say about it? graham taylor who was manager of the —— at the time died in 2017 very suddenly and the assistant manager, dave richardson, says he cannot recall a conversation with tony brian and denied he would have advised anyone to cover it up or not to speak out. he said he did act very quickly when other parents raised concerns and said he did not go to the police at the time because those parents did not want him to take it any further it's important to point out that in this country there was no legal responsibility to report suspected abuse. that is in other countries but not in this country but that mr richardson said he could not comment any further and did not think it was
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appropriate while the football association carried out an enquiry into historical abuse which is still ongoing project i have been talking to tony brian and he gave his reaction to the decision by leicester and aston villa to pay damages. i don't think it will ever draw a line underneath it, victoria. what happened to meet 30 odd years ago will stay with me until i die it helps, don't get me wrong, but it was never about money, it was about an acceptance of what happened to us all them years ago. i still think they have got away lightly. and in certain terms, where they haven't accepted responsibility or anything like that. i suppose closure, no, it doesn't give closure. have the clubs apologised to you ? doesn't give closure. have the clubs apologised to you? no, nothing has been said or done. that has not been an announcement in the papers or the press or anything. that is probably the biggest disappointment of it
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all. what happened all them years ago, i know it was not on people's what you are in charge of leicester city now but it happened and we want an acceptance that it happened. to say sorry isn't a big thing put everybody makes mistakes. you know... saying sorry won't make things right but it will help and it will help the other four lads as well put and why do you think they haven't says sorry? you would have to ask them that. why do i think? it's a long time ago that it happened. maybe things have moved on and they don't want to be associated with that sort of thing. i can't answer that question for leicester city or aston villa but i would like to know why they are not apologising and nothing, absolutely nothing from them. i represented leicester city foot ball them. i represented leicester city football club. 0k, them. i represented leicester city football club. ok, i them. i represented leicester city football club. 0k, iwasn't them. i represented leicester city football club. ok, i wasn't their best player in the world but i represented them and they made money by selling me at the same time as well. if you are out there
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listening, anybody at leicester, i would appeal to you to say sorry. and to try to put it to bed. other clu bs and to try to put it to bed. other clubs have come at manchester city regarding barry bennell, southampton regarding barry bennell, southampton regarding bob higgins.|j regarding barry bennell, southampton regarding bob higgins. i have seen it. it beggars belief sometimes, if they have paid out financially why won't they apologise? it is like they are sweeping it under the carpet like they did 30 years ago when i tried to report it to graham taylor and dave richardson. it feels like that. i wonder if you could remind our audience how being abused asa remind our audience how being abused as a 12—year—old boy by a scout, you know, as you are playing football, the game you love, how that impacts your life. it has impacted my life for a long time, victoria. you try
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to put it to the back of your mind every time you go to sleep at night. i turned to drink and that helped me to sleep at night. some of the managers probably lost patience with me for the amount i drank over the years. it was the only thing that would actually put me to sleep and put it to the back of my mind. i'm not proud of that and i never will be. you mentioned dave richardson it was the assistant manager at the time at aston villa and you said you mentioned it to graham taylor and obviously he died suddenly in 2017. dave richardson has said he doesn't recall the conversation with you. but he did sack ted langford as a scout after being told about inappropriate behaviour by other pa rents. inappropriate behaviour by other parents. what message would you want to send to mr richardson? come and meet me. really? why? because i know i have told the truth. in a way i'm sorry because i haven't seen him for
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years and he was like a god to me put it when i got picked for ireland, dave richardson wrote to me and it gave me a hug, it was like a god to me but when i needed him, when i looked up to adults, i was let down. you mentioned a couple of other players involved in the most recent court case would have been abused after you said you first came forward to warn aston villa. had things been different, do you think the abuse of those other players could have been prevented? most definitely. if they had acted promptly, like i say, victoria, they probably didn't know how to deal with it in those days. they said an investigation would be done but they definitely should have done something about it. all i know, i know it is a different era we live in now, but if somebody came to me andi in now, but if somebody came to me and i was involved at the club and they said, this is what has happened, i would they said, this is what has happened, iwould much they said, this is what has happened, i would much demonstrate
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down to the police station to make a statement. that's what i would do —— i would march them straight down. four other players were involved in this case and they all came forward after seeing you on this programme three years ago. i understand you have been talking to some of them. what have they told you? they have told me they never want to go public, they never want to do because a long time has elapsed since it happened. but again, they are in the same boat as me, they can never forget it. they don't like to speak about it, but i think they are probably glad it has been settled but that was it the right decision to come on this programme? most definitely, yes. there are still some people who've got in contact with me who don't want to come forward. there are other alleged victims of ted langford out there?
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there is, yes. aston villa told us it wishes to express its deepest sympathies with all those who suffered abuse, safeguarding standards are paramount importance to the club and any reports of abuse will be investigated rigorously and reported to appropriate authorities. z... if you are affected by any of the issues raised in the report, you can get help and support on the bbc action line website. for the past three years, our programme has been investigating how the reef parents and their children are looked after and on tuesday we revealed that 18 organisations and charities had sent an open letter to the government urging it to change
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the government urging it to change the law so unmarried with can receive financial support for their children. if your husband, wife or civil partner dies, and you are eligible for child benefit you can receive up to £10,000 put it this is called the bereavement support payment but if you are unmarried, you are not entitled to it at all. it is estimated that every year around 2000 families with children lose out. we heard from three women who had been denied the payments including one who took the government to court and won. laura, you and nigel were together for nine yea rs. you and nigel were together for nine years. sadly nigel died last month. yes. can i ask what happened? we have a two—year—old who was a bit of world wind, little noah. we both wa nted world wind, little noah. we both wanted to get a bit fitter to keep up wanted to get a bit fitter to keep up with him. we have been doing a bit of running and nigel went out
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for a bit of running and nigel went out fora run and bit of running and nigel went out for a run and he didn't come back. i waited at home, where izzy. had to eventually go out and look for him and instead found an ambulance —— where is he. i was told he had died while running. goodness me. it was unbelievable, we did not know there we re unbelievable, we did not know there were any health problems, it came com pletely were any health problems, it came completely out of the blue. i had noah with me when i found the ambulance. just a total shock. total shock. and does noah know his dad has died? he does know, we have talked to him about it and explained but because of his age he doesn't understand fully. every day at the moment he is saying, where is my daddy, i want daddy. he did tell his little friend recently, i don't have a daddy any more. and he asks every single day, which isjust, it's like
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a knife every day, asking where he is. you and nigel were a knife every day, asking where he is. you and nigelwere not a knife every day, asking where he is. you and nigel were not married, asi is. you and nigel were not married, as i said. i wonder if you can tell us as i said. i wonder if you can tell us about the moment you realised you we re us about the moment you realised you were not entitled to this bereavement support payment because you were not married. on valentine's day, the irony of all ironies, i had to go and register his death. i was told in advance, you will find it difficult to register him because you are not married. i was told by a lovely woman at the registration process , lovely woman at the registration process, you are not married so we will have to register him as a single. that is despite nine years pulled we had been together for nine yea rs. pulled we had been together for nine years. i was just so angry that that was the case because i did not have this piece of paper that i had to register him as single and as the person organising the funeral, not even allowed to be acknowledged as
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his partner. that wasjust... on top of everything else it was soul destroying. in terms of the bereavement support payment, when did you realise that was not forthcoming? i went online to check and look through the guidance to see how to make the claim and it said that no, unless you are married or ina that no, unless you are married or in a civil partnership, you can't have that, you can't have it. how have that, you can't have it. how have you managed ? have that, you can't have it. how have you managed? i know that in terms of the cost of the funeral it has been really hard. it has, you find yourself in a position where you are solely responsible for everything. just overwhelmed, looking at the price of funerals and the cost of everything on top of everything else and struggling to even comprehend where to start really. i have been very lucky, some very kind people in the village where i live set up a gofundme page
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soi where i live set up a gofundme page so i had to rely on strangers and friends and family who have come together to help me at this time. thank god for the people of your village because you are not entitled to this payment. let me bring you income you were together with adam for 15 years. he died two years ago and when you think back to that time, you are not married so what difference would have receiving this payment have made to you and your kids back then? i have to say that i was also very fortunate in that i had my mother—in—law to help me financially. i had my local church financially. i had my local church financially support me. i had to months paid from my work. between february, when adam was killed, i returned to work in october. in that timel returned to work in october. in that time i had the financial help from
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my mother—in—law and the church. time i had the financial help from my mother—in—law and the churchm you had had the bereavement payment... i wouldn't have had to ta ke payment... i wouldn't have had to take back payment from them and to be honest with you, at that time felt i was a complete burden. i had not asked for the payment they saw me struggling and so they offered. for me to be off work, my children's mental health was more important than working. it is a complete panic, what to do financially, if i should return to work and howl would manage childcare. i really didn't want to go on to universal credit, i would didn't want to go on to universal credit, iwould have been didn't want to go on to universal credit, i would have been much worse off and i wanted my children to have a good example of a mother and be in a good example of a mother and be in a job a good example of a mother and be in ajob and in a good example of a mother and be in a job and in a good situation financially. extending this payment to unmarried couples would cost £15 million a year. perhaps it is just too expensive. there is only about
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2000 families that are unmarried but lose a partner every year so it is a small fraction and i think they can afford to pay it. i am going to bring in siobhan first. 18 months ago you went to the supreme court and won, they ruled it was incompatible with human rights law that you are not allowed to receive bereavement benefits for your children because of being unmarried. what has changed since then? absolutely nothing unfortunately. nothing has changed at all. what you think the fact that nothing has changed since that ruling? shocking, it really is shocking. highest court in the land can sate our government you have discriminated against not just my children but all of these children, and yet they have done nothing. a few weeks ago the high court ruled that denying two
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bereaved dads and their kids the bereavement support payment because the dads were not married but also against human rights law. do you think that is going to make a difference? i have no idea where the government is coming from with this. i don't understand what it will take for them to recognise our children are just as important as a child born into wedlock. they are showing they really are discriminative against them. let me bring in stella creasy. what you think of these kind of story that we are containing to report despite the court cases?|j first got involved in the issue because i have two mums in my constituency who came to me who were sadly in the same position. but let's be clear, nigel and adam both paid their national insurance contributions. it's not about the state being kind, we have always supported widows in this country. i am horrified by the way in which this government has treated widows not only by saying that somehow after 18 months you should be over
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the tragic loss of a partner, but also discriminating against children because the government thinks that if you're not married somehow your children are lesser. whether it is being able to register a birth or death or being able to support your family from the payments your partner would have made in good faith to the state, this is the change could have the legislation is from the 1950s and i have sat in meetings repeatedly with ministers and held to debates to say, why don't we learn from countries like germany where the money go to the child? you germany where the money go to the child ? you have germany where the money go to the child? you have what is called an orphan's pension. they soubry sit on their hands and it's not good enough because everything a week there are families in this horrific position and they're treated like this because of the decision —— they simply sit on their hands but it said ina simply sit on their hands but it said in a statement, losing a loved one is devastating and were carefully considering the court judgments on cohabiting couples with children. a few weeks ago they try to appeal against the dads winning their court case and that was turned down we learned yesterday. am i reading too much into that statement
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that it sounds slightly hopeful? they have had four years are people raising the concern about the fact that unmarried parents are discriminative at —— just committed against, two court rulings telling them they breach of human rights of them they breach of human rights of the children. i wish i could more hopeful and hearing borisjohnson say he suddenly realised the issue was important to make me more hopeful because it is very simple, just extend the benefit and recognise the parent to pay their contributions and their children should not be penalised because theirfamilies should not be penalised because their families tragically lost a loved one point it would not be in this position in the 21st century. loved one point it would not be in this position in the 21st centurylj wa nt this position in the 21st century.” wa nt to this position in the 21st century.” want to ask you briefly what would be your message to borisjohnson if you were watching right now? my goodness, show that you really do ca re goodness, show that you really do care about our children. simple as. what would you say?” care about our children. simple as. what would you say? i think i would children count, and recognise that you made promising comments in promise of questions but please follow through with it and challenge the injustice because our children matter they should not be penalised because of their parents not having
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a piece of paper. that should not be happening. it is about children's human rights at the end of the day. they are being affected by the parents decision not to marry and they matter as much as a married parent. also this week we spoke to hugo boss, or other the comedian formerly known asjuly city hugo boss, or other the comedian formerly known as july city was changes name to the german fashion label and he explained why. hugo bossis label and he explained why. hugo boss is also a company i believe, and there is a small company called boss brewing in swansea who are a small business and they tried to make a trademark for a couple of beers and hugo boss sate them a cease and desist letter that basically says stop doing what they think is alleged illegal activity. i think is alleged illegal activity. i think it is a massive company taking ona think it is a massive company taking on a little company and its not fair and nobody is going to confuse a beer with hugo boss, i don't think i would splash myself with heineken in the morning! maybe i will! i thought
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that they clearly don't like their name being used and they have sent dozens name being used and they have sent d oze ns of name being used and they have sent dozens of these are two small businesses, charities,... dozens of these are two small businesses, charities, . .. but dozens of these are two small businesses, charities,... but what is interesting is the alleged illegal activity is use of the word bass. the brewery is not the hugo boss brewery, it is boss. so nobody can use that word according to hugo boss? no, and now i'm hugo boss, i would prefer it if people didn't as well! it is amazing what happens. what are they going to do to you?” changed my name by deed poll and did not expect the reaction, i did not to expect to be hip and i was in the bath an hour ago! that is your certificate showing you have legally changed your name. lit is a headache, there are some new things to do. but what you want them to do? i would like them to stop doing this and sending these letters because nobody is confusing these things, these brands. also i would like
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them, because boss brewing spent £10,000 in legalfees and had to rebrand and change labels, very expensive for a small business so i'd like them to give them their money back and also promised to stop and an apology would be nice, hugo, if you can apologise? this is what they said. a statement against itb last august. they have done this a few times. we haven't been able to getan few times. we haven't been able to get an update. me too, speak to us! following the brewery‘s application to register a trademark, we approach them regarding the use of bass in relation to two bia names in their portfolio. this was to avoid conflict and potential misunderstanding regarding the brands boss and boss black which had been used by the brewery which our long—standing trademarks in our company put the discussions clarify the situation in respect of these brand as well as in relation to textile merchandising to the future fund the brewery is able to proceed
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with the majority of their products without impact on the current branding. but costing them £10,000, which is a lot to a small business. and also the fact they're doing it to these others, charities... i don't really agree with the statement. fair enough. you are doing a programme about this next month on channel 4? doing a programme about this next month on channel4? i'm launching a product as hugo boss. i can't go into too much detail is for legal reasons but all will be repealed on my channel 4 show which i suppose is to be rebranded because it was called joe lycett has got your back but it will have to beat hugo boss has got your back! everybody has to call you if you go to make the point? including the bbc! thank you so much. thanks for having me. you can so much. thanks for having me. you ca n co nta ct so much. thanks for having me. you can contact me anytime on twitter and e—mail us can contact me anytime on twitter and e—mailusa can contact me anytime on twitter and e—mail us a story you might want us and e—mail us a story you might want us to look into. we are back lit on monday morning at ten o'clock on bbc two, the bbc news channel. thank you for watching.
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hello, another unsettled weekend in store because we have low pressure sweeping in which will bring initially wet and windy weather to the north and west of the country which will transfer eastwards over night and on sunday we are into a run of cooler air night and on sunday we are into a run of coolerairand night and on sunday we are into a run of cooler air and a lot of bluster which i was blowing in from the west with some sunny spells in between. the wind is quite a feature to end the day this evening around irish sea coast, up to 50 mph gusts along with heavy rain which will continue to spill eastwards but by the end of the night the wet and windy weather will be across more eastern parts of the country. further west, blustery showers and clear spells and cool as well to end the night but a mild one further south and east. on sunday, wet and windy weather clearing from the south—east in the morning and then brighterfor south—east in the morning and then brighter for many with a lot of sunshine but also blustery showers and heavy and frequent ones in the north and west with a mixture of
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