tv Tuesday in Parliament BBC News March 18, 2020 1:30am-2:00am GMT
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to bolster their economies in the face of the coronavirus pandemic. shares on wall street closed up 5.2% on the news the white house is planning a financial rescue worth up to $850 billion. britain's prime minister borisjohnson says the uk is on a war—time footing, as he unveiled a new stimulus package. it includes $400 billion of loan guarantees for businesses hit by the fall in trade. and another public health message turned music video has gone viral. "wash your hands", don't touch your face" — a south african choir are the latest stars whose simple message to fight the outbreak is trending online. that's all. stay with bbc world news. a good message it is too. now it's time for a look back
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at the day in parliament. hello and welcome to tuesday in parliament. on this programme: the chancellor sets out more measures to help businesses through coronavirus, announcing a £330 billion lifeline for the economy. i said whatever it takes, and i mean it. the government advises against all nonessential foreign travel. labour reckons it could do more to help those stranded abroad. the government cannot keep passing the buck to others, especially when it comes to repatriation. yes, it's difficult, yes, it's expensive, but that is the nature of the crisis that we face. and as people are told to stop going out, there are fresh calls for england to introduce minimum pricing for alcohol. with the massive reduction
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in social interaction, there will inevitably be a spike in the increase of people drinking alcohol at home. the chancellor of the exchequer has announced a £330 billion support package to help businesses through the coronavirus crisis. speaking in downing street, the chancellor vowed that the government would do whatever it takes to support the economy. and he set out the details of the plans to waiting journalists. but when rishi sunak came to the commons, he got a telling off from the speaker, sir lindsay hoyle for not making the announcements to mps first. i do not want to pick a quarrel with any member, i do though want to make crystal clear that my view is that ministers have a duty to report first to this house when the major policy, with major policy changes are announced. the chancellor apologised and went
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on to outline his plans to mps. he said the measures, which include government—backed and guaranteed loans, amounted to the equivalent of 15% of national income — known as gdp. that means any business who needs to excess cash to pay their rent, their salaries or their supplies will be able to access a government backed loan on attractive terms. and if demand is greater than the initial £330 billion, that is the amount i'm making available today, i will go further and provide as much capacity as required. i said whatever it takes, and i mean it. there would also be £10,000 grants for the smallest businesses and the business rate holiday announced in the budget would be extended. that means every single shop, pub, theatre, music venue, restaurant and any other business in the retail, hospitality or leisure sector will pay no business rates whatsoever
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for 12 months. and if they have a rateable value of less than £51,000 they will now get a cash grant as well. the chancellor said there would be help for individuals who have seen their income collapse as a result of the crisis, announcing a three—month mortgage holiday for those who need it. and in the coming days, mr speaker, i will go much further to support people's financial security. in particular, i will work with trade unions and businesses to urgently develop new forms of employment support to help protect people'sjobs and incomes through this period. labour said it recognised the threat from the virus, but thought the chancellor could have done more. i'm just disappointed that today, today's package of measures did not really appreciate the urgency and gravity of the situation. for those individuals and those families, there's nothing in the statement to protect renters. will the chancellor,
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and it affects us all, all of our constituents can will the chancellor bring forward urgently now measures to prevent, to protect renters comfort prevent infections and nibble validates for the people unable to make their costs? rishi sunak promised there would be an announcement from the housing secretary in the next few days. the snp focused on the impact on young people. the institute has said that young people under 25, only one in four under 25 have enough savings to cover one month of income. under 25 are incredibly vulnerable and looking at specific measures to tackle the issues for young people. only 42% at the bottom and have enough savings to cover a month. people are not going to manage through this crisis on the basis of the money to have in a bank at the moment because a lot of people have no money in the bank. the chancellor said he was listening and welcomed all the suggestions that had been made. just a few hours earlier, the foreign secretary had come
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to the commons with new advice telling people not to travel abroad. dominic raab said british nationals should avoid all non—essential foreign travel to tackle the spread of coronavirus. many travellers have already taken the government's advice to restrict domesticjourneys. the new restrictions on travel overseas will be in place for 30 days initially but could be extended. he set out the plans to mps. lungs of the changes to border and a range of other restrictions which have now been taken by countries around the world. the speed and range of those measures across other countries is unprecedented. now the government of course is keenly aware that international freight services such as a shipping and haulage are vital for ensuring the continuity of the supply of essential food goods and material to the uk.
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so we do regard this kind of travel as essential. and we will work with industry to issued detail advice which maintains the flow of goods whilst protecting the well—being of staff who are working on those routes. we also need to be clear about our capacity to repatriate people from abroad given the scale of the numbers. we have taken action where necessary, but no one should be under any illusions. it is costly, complicated to co—ordinate so government supported repatriation to have only been undertaken in exceptional circumstances. and he finished with this warning. following today's change in travel advice british nationals decide is to leisure travel abroad should do so fully aware of the increased risks of doing so in that obviously includes the risk that they may not be able to get home if travel restrictions
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are subsequently put in place that they have not anticipated. the shadow foreign secretary said the message from brits stranded around the world is "help bring us home". and it is no use telling them to rely on advice from the government and the countries that they are travelling. when our tourists are inevitably the least of those countries concerns. nor is any use telling them rely on the instructions of their travel operators which have all too often in recent weeks been at odds with the official fco travel advice and driven by the fear of insurance claims and bankruptcy, not by the needs of our citizens. the government cannot keep passing the buck to others especially when it comes to repatriation. yes, it's difficult, yes it is expensive, but that is the nature of the crisis that we face. when the dust settles in this crisis as we all hope it eventually will, we will reflect on what has been a chronic failure of global leadership and coordination which our own government has sadly
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been one of the parties. instead of every country working together to agree best practice and apply common standards on testing, tracking and travel restrictions on quarantines myself isolation and social distancing, we have instead seen a global free for all when every country has been going it alone. and instead of the international community coming together to pool its experience and work together to develop a vaccine and a cure we have again seen individual countries working in silos, and the shameful attempt by donald trump to by the german company in the lead when it comes to discovering a vaccine, not just to steal the glory of the vaccine for himself, but you hoarded for the americans alone. —— but to hoard it. to expect the government can repatriate them all would be unrealistic. what we do do is make sure we are in a position to protect the most vulnerable. she asked why our needs are stretched, i have to say to the honourable lady, she ought to have a look at the scale of the international
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challenge this country and everyone is facing with coronavirus. the snp took a more concilliatory tone. that now is the time for us to issue party political point scoring. collies will be aware of the statement this morning from charles being from the office for budget responsibility. you need to state to be there as the insurer of last resort against what is effectively an act of god. the state surely has a role, big early action is better than halfhearted action that is late. we could not agree more. the foreign secretary is right that repatriation is a complex and costly business. but that surely is exactly why it's not something that should just be left to individuals and must be a leading role for government in this. when we talk about the different approach taken by different countries, the uk has to focus
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on what's right for our country at the right time. uniquely we are using behavioural science as many are not doing, and we need the right response or our culture and the way that our people behave, not one transported from another country. travel is also vital for the nation supplies, 45% of the food that britain heeds comes from overseas and is imported, so will the government do two things? first of all, make a statement very soon on how it's going to protect the supply lines to give the nation confidence in the food supplies, and then secondly do everything it can to back the farmers in britain to increase production to keep us all well fed. we are very mindful in everything we do to keep those supply chains open and take a look at that and he also makes a good and important point about food supply, and the opportunities for uk—based suppliers to rise to meet the demand or supply that will be curtailed as result of covid—i9. the government's chief scientific adviser, sir patrick vallance, has said he hopes the latest measures to control the coronavirus outbreak would mean 20,000 orfewer deaths. he also told the health committee
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the outbreak was a "daily, changing, unique situation". if yesterday's announcement bears the fruit that we are hoping, then the total number of deaths rather than being in the hundreds of thousands could potentially get below 20,000 which is still a huge number of deaths, but is nonetheless a much better picture than many might have feared. that is the hope that we can get it down to that. to put that into perspective, every year in seasonal flu the number of deaths is thought to be about 8000 excess deaths. if we can get this down to numbers 20000 and below, so if we can get this down to numbers 20,000 and below, that's a good outcome in terms of where we would hope to get to with this outbreak, but it is still horrible. that's still an enormous number of deaths and an enormous pressure on the health service. jeremy hunt asked about the social distancing advice for
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healthy people over 70. the what are the kind of things that might do now that you are asking them not to do going forward? the healthy over 70s? avoid crowded spaces, avoid gatherings, don't go to the club that you normally go to where everyone is sitting around together, reduce travel, try to avoid unnecessary travel. it's quite a big change that is being asked in specific guidance is on the hsc website. just very specifically, what about going to sunday lunch with their family and their grandchildren? yes or no? they shouldn't. what surprised you the most about the situation we are in? i don't think any of this have seen anything like this. i mean, this is a first and notjust a generation, but potentially a first for 100 years,
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and so none of us have seen this. it's not like in outbreak of something like ebola, where it's a very different type of disease with a very different type of death rate, a very different set of criteria around it. circumstances around it. this is a daily changing unique situation. the committee also questioned senior officials from nhs england on whether they are placed to cope with a big demand for hospital beds. they said they would be suspending non—urgent operations, freeing up 15,000 beds, and were increasing the number of ventilators available from 8,000 to 12,000. cutting to the chase, the modelling that was published this morning by professor ferguson at imperial, which i think the government is working on, basically has an assumption that 4% of patients of covid—19 will need a hospital bed — and of those, 30% will need a critical care bed.
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if you take those assumptions and you combine it with the measures that were announced yesterday, which are expected to dramatically slow the growth of the virus, are you now confident — combined with the other measures you already have been working very hard at — that we will have enough intensive care beds for people who need them? this is obviously an unprecedented global health threat, unmitigated. there would be no health service in the world that would be able to cope if this virus let rip, so it is vitally important those measures set up by public health england and by the government yesterday take effect in order to reduce the infection rate such that the pressure, the peak pressure on the nhs, is moderated. the director for acute care for nhs england told people with symptoms to stop work and self—isolate immediately. you don't wait around until tomorrow to see if this
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is going to get better, because you are now highly infectious. so earliest signs, even mild, you go and self—isolate to protect others. and the seven—day isolation policy is designed to take you from the period where you are most infectious to where you are not infectious, and then you can go back into society. jeremy hunt read out a question from a labour committee member, james murray, who couldn't attend. do you think the new guidelines issued yesterday to the public about social distancing would be more effective if they were mandatory rather than advisory? i think we will all know the answer to that question within a matter of days. and i think as we heard the prime minister say yesterday, obviously the first approach is to appeal to the good judgement and altruistic instinct of the british people. i can't be plainer than to say the importance of adhering to these measures, as much as you possibly can, is going to make the difference
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to whether the nhs copes or not. it's as plain as that. the speaker in the lords, lord fowler, has suggested vulnerable peers should stay away from westminster during the covid—19 outbreak, saying they shouldn't feel it was their "duty" to attend. as with the commons, the house of lords has so far decided to stay open. lord fowler said the government had issued specific advice for the over—70s and those with specific medical conditions. obviously, this has particular implications for members of this house. i would just like to emphasise one point, that no—one should consider it is their duty to be here in these circumstances. as parliamentarians, we also have a duty to show leadership and heed the advice of the public health experts. well, immediately after that at question time, peers urged the government to adopt a more flexible approach when it came
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to the possibility of delaying talks with the european union about the next phase of brexit. lady hayter said this week's meeting had been cancelled because of covid—19 and the uk and eu government's attention were taken up with the crisis. business at the moment is also concentrated more on their survival than on preparations they will have to make for the end of the transition that, should it become advisable not to walk out of the talks in june if we haven't made enough progress, the government would not be hidebound by the repeated holding onto a particular date and, if necessary, they will allow those talks to continue because, with this global crisis, surely it is important to get the right brexit and not just a rapid brexit. my lords, both sides remain fully committed to these negotiations and discussions are not about whether but how to continue.
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does the noble lord accept that a flexible rather than an absolutist, rejectionist policy towards the extension would actually be regarded by this house, i think, and by the country as statesman—like rather than some kind of cave in? my lords, i don't except the adjectives or the colourful language of the noble baroness. the position is that parliament has enacted that we should complete this by the end of the year, and that is the policy of this government. my lords, isn't the last thing business needs at the moment more uncertainty? and for the government to sound an uncertain note on our determination to leave the european union, as has been agreed, would be a great mistake. and when baroness hayter talks about the right brexit, we all know that she thinks the right brexit is no brexit at all.
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surely the government should be sufficiently flexibile to see things have changed and to see perhaps the conference calls and so on will not deal with a situation where many of the potential negotiators are unable to leave their own countries because of lockdown. my lords, i hear what the noble lord says, and i understand where he is coming from, but i must repeat to your lordships that both sides remain fully committed to these negotiations and to continuing them. it was the final day of debate on the budget — and this time, it was the turn of the transport secretary to open the debate. grant shapps suggested that airlines, railand bus companies could be temporarily nationalised to help them through the coronavirus crisis. he told mps that a number of ideas were being looked at. good organisations shouldn't be going bust, but it will be hugely challenging, and we will require a lot
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of different responses and mechanisms in order to get there — including, on occasions, organisations being run by the public sector. the virgin atlantic boss, sir richard branson, has been one of those urging the government to help the aviation industry. but with some of the airline's staff asked to take eight weeks' unpaid leave while most of its fleet is grounded, labour's shadow transport secretary, andy mcdonald, suggested the tycoon could dip into his own pocket. i know he is asking the government for a bailout, but i trust the government might expect him to use his own considerable resources before that happens — and perhaps when he's down to his last billion might be the appropriate time. he might be able to live without two months of income, but his workers can't. for the snp, stephen flynn suggested the government should introduce a universal basic income to help people through the crisis. when in 2008, i think it was, the uk government bailed out the banks,
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my plea to the current uk government is to bail out the public on this occasion. and the final day of the debate ended without a formal division. now, the government has confirmed it's ruling out introducing minimum alcohol pricing in england for now. scotland and wales have already implemented the measure. the confirmation came during a debate in westminster hall about tackling alcohol abuse. a conservative mp set out the extent of the problem. across the uk, more than 80 people die every day because of alcohol—related causes, and that figure is far higher in areas where there is poverty or where there are people who are struggling to cope. alcohol is now the leading risk factorfor death, ill health and disability amongst 15 to a9—year—olds in england, and it is associated with around 40% of violent crime. this is something that is a public health issue and must be tackled as such.
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for many people, it is linked to poverty and poor social conditions and lack of opportunity, so we need to take a holistic approach to resolving this issue. one of the concerns we should have over the coming weeks and months is, with the massive reduction in social interaction, there will inevitably be a spike in the increase of people drink alcohol at home, and all of us have to be very aware of that, both government and communities, to try and make sure people do that responsibly and not to significant excess — which may well have been in the coming weeks. scotland has already acted to reduce the prevalence of cheap alcohol. minimum unit pricing was introduced in 2018 in scotland. and this policy was delayed for several years, shamefully,
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as the alcohol industry dragged it through every court it could find to stop it or delay its implementation for as long as possible. but studies indicated that there would be around 121 fewer deaths per year as a result and there would be a fall in hospital admissions ofjust over 2,000 per year by the end of year 20 of the policy. the minister got a bit of a rough ride when she rose to put the government's position. most people in the country drink responsibly, and the good news is, actually, that we are seeing overall decrease in the amount of people drinking, which is especially the case with young people, but the government are not complacent... one moment. ..and are determined to do more to support people at risk from alcohol misuse. our aim is to ensure people can be directed to the appropriate service wherever and whenever they look for help. she says that most people drink responsibly, but the statistics from drinkaware are very concerning. according to them, 49% of men are classified as either increasing or higher risk drinking compared to 31% of women. that is a very high
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percentage, isn't it? as i said as i kicked off, i fully appreciate and respect her for the huge amount of work she does in making the case that we need to make sure that we recognise that alcohol can have harmful effects — and it does for some people. 0n minimum unit pricing, there are no plans to implement it in england at present, but the government continues to monitor the evidence as it emerges from scotland and wales. given the funding in the investment she is talking about how to deal with the consequences of alcohol addiction, does she not agree with me that perhaps, knowing that cider and some of the most high—level alcohol is on sale in shops in england for less than a bottle of water or a pint of milk, does she not feel
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that the consequences is less effective than tackling the problem at source, and making alcoholjust that little bit more expensive to have an impact? i thank the honourable member for her contribution. i take her point, which is why i think it is important we should continue to look at the evidence, and that is the approach that we will follow. helen whately there. and that's it from me for now, but dojoin me on bbc parliament on wednesday night at 11pm for another round up of the day here at westminster, including the highlights from prime minister's questions. but for now from me, alicia mccarthy, goodbye. hello, we've got some real contrast in terms of the temperature north and south across the british isles
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in the next day or so. england and wales on wednesday, we keep the cloudy and mild feel to things, but some outbreaks of rain, rather grey conditions there. for scotland and northern ireland, clear skies, a cold start with some frost and the risk of patchy ice. a little bit of sunshine and showers on wednesday. so the dividing line between those weather types is this weather front here. it's going to be slowly sinking its way south. out of that we keep a fair amount of cloud across england and wales. rain initially for north wales and northern england will slowly sink south, but becoming fairly light and patchy as moves into the midlands and the south—west of england into the afternoon. to the north of that, after a cold and frosty start with the odd icy patch around, see lots of sunshine developing across scotland and northern ireland. some wintry showers working in from the north—west. blustery winds likely as well, with temperatures about 8—10 in the north but 11—13 further south. now heading through wednesday night and overnight into thursday. we still have this fairly stubborn, slow—moving but relatively weak weatherfront, which is dividing
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this mild air across southern england, from the much colder air, the blue colours that you can see across the rest of the uk, with a northerly breeze coming in. most of us will see some blue sky and sunshine, still a few wintry showers across the north—west of scotland, and anywhere north of the ma, into south wales as well, we will see a bit of cloud, milder conditions, but some patchy outbreaks of rain, especially towards the south—west of england. temperatures around nine or ten, but most of us typically about 7—10 degrees on thursday. then we've still got that weather front, it looks like it could linger into the end of the working week. a big area of high pressure builds as we move into friday. for much of the uk, lighter winds, lots of dry weather with some sunshine, but a bit of uncertainty about how far north any of that rain will get on friday. we're likely to see wet weather for the channel isles and the far south—west of england as well. most other places were dry with variable amounts of cloud. a cool breeze coming in off the north sea keeping temperatures in the east in single figures, but we could see 10 degrees or so in the warmer spots in any
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