tv Monday in Parliament BBC News March 24, 2020 1:30am-2:00am GMT
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new measures with immediate effect to try suppress coronavirus. everyone in the uk will have to stay at home, only leaving it to shop for basic needs or take exercise. mrjohnson said the rules would be reviewed in three weeks. president trump has called on republicans and democrats in the senate to pass a new stimulus bill to fight the economic impact of the coronavirus. speaking at a white house briefing, mr trump said both parties should avoid playing political games at a time when american lives were at risk. more than 2,000 people have now died from the virus in spain, most of them in the capital, madrid. spain is the second worst affected country in europe after italy, where it appears that the number of daily deaths and infections is finally starting to fall. you're up—to—date with the headlines. now on bbc news,
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monday in parliament. hello and welcome monday in parliament. the headlines from westminster: unprecedented measures are passed by the commons to try to halt the spread of coronavirus. we are proposing extraordinary measures of the kind never seen before in peacetime. today, this house is being asked to make decisions of a magnitude i simply would never have dreamt of only a few weeks ago. but some mps want the government to go further. will he underpin this legislation and everything else the government is doing with a much bigger, wider, louder, more comprehensive public education campaign. because right now, it is clearly not getting through. and others put in a plea for health workers. we also need to be testing the thousands and thousands of our nhs staff, so that we can
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keep them healthy and keep them on the front line. in an address to the nation on monday evening, borisjohnson imposed stricter rules on movement, including a ban on gatherings of more than two people outside and the closure of all shops except food shops. all this would be enforced by the police. earlier, unprecendented powers to help in the fight against the virus were passed by the house of commons in less than six hours. the measures give ministers power to stop public gatherings and detain people thought to be infected with the virus in order to stop the spread. it also relaxes regulations in many areas to ease the burden on public services such as the nhs, the care sector, schools, police, funerals and local authorities. the bill is designed to last for two years. but following concerns, the government agreed to give parliament the ability to renew the powers every six months. the mood in the commons was one of consensus.
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coronavirus is the most serious public health emergency that has faced the world than a century. we are all targets, but the disease reserves its full cruelty for the weakest in the most vulnerable. to defeat it, we are proposing extraordinary measures of the kind never seen before in peacetime. our goal is to protect life and to protect every part of the nhs. this bill, jointly agreed with all four uk governments, gives us the power to fight the virus with everything that we've got. today, this house is being asked to make decisions of a magnitude i simply never would have dreamt of only a few weeks ago. i know no member came into this place to put powers like this on to the statute book, powers that curtail so many basic freedoms, that our forebears fought so hard for, and so many today take for granted. but i also know that every member here will want to do all they can
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to support all means necessary to save lives and protect our communities. many mps were concerned about front line health workers. we need to ensure that our nhs staff and our social care staff have the best most comprehensive personal protection equipment, that mean masks that fit properly and equipment which is compliant with who standards. we also need to be testing the thousands and thousands of our nhs staff, so that we can keep them healthy and keep them on the front line. the commitment to stepping up testing to 25,000 today is welcome and i would urge ministers to ensure that nhs staff are first in the queue. in terms of making sure that nhs staff and so social care staff and those who need it clinically get the protective equipment they need, especially, but not only the masks, we are undertaking enormous efforts
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to get that equipment out. the equipment is there, we have it. it's a distribution effort. because i wasn't satisfied with the stories i heard of people running short, we have brought in the military to help with the logistical efforts, but also because i want to hear from every single member of staff in the nhs or in social care who needs that equipment, but doesn't have it, we have introduced a hotline and an e—mail address, which is manned. i've had an update on that, it has had a number of calls and they are all being responded to, and that way we will find out where the gaps are to get this distribution out. so it's a mammoth effort. we have been working on for several weeks, but the increase in the use of the protective equipment in the last week has been very sharp, as i'm sure as he and the house will understand. the logistical effort is a very significant one. nobody denies this bid is necessary,
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but given that this bill gives unprecedented power to the state to enforce isolation on people who have committed no crime, for the first time in our history, with the secretary of state reassure the house that this house will be fully involved in renewing this once this crisis is over, and there will be any drift in this matter? crucially, the legislation is time—limited for two years and the measures can each be switched on and off individually as necessary by the relevant authority, whether that's the uk government or the devolved government, depending on who exercises the powers, and as an additional safeguard, we have brought forward an amendment to give this house the opportunity to confirm that the powers are still required every six months, we have tabled that amendment today. i'm very pleased to hear what the government to set up at the six—month review. but notwithstanding what he just said about the period of time in which this has been produced. it's a heroic effort, 321 pages of legislation, which may well be subject to changes
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in the next few weeks and months as this crisis develops. i hope therefore he will see the six—month review is notjust a rubber stamping effort, but also a chance to improve the legislation, should it require that improvement. will he tell the house, in the event of the host decides that one of this act is working badly, will we be able to amend or strike out that elements, or do we have to take the whole thing or rejected at those six—month points? the proposing, as discussed with the opposition a six months debate and vote on the continuation of the bill, and before that debate, we will provide evidence and advice from the chief medical officer to inform the debate, and there is also a reporting mechanism for a report every eight weeks on the use of the powers in the bill. the health secretary had news regarding retired doctors and nurses. the bill allows for emergency
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professionals including nurses, midwives and paramedics and social workers, and i can tell the house, i can update with numbers, 7563 clinicians have so far answered our call to return to work, including members of this house, and i want to pay tribute to every single one of them. is he aware that there are many in the refugee community in the uk who are qualified health care professionals. i've spoken to ref you aid who says they have 514 qualified health care professionals on their books, people who are willing to work, fully qualified in their own country, but there are bureaucratic areas for them coming forward. will you please look at this with great urgency, so that these people can help us out? yes, and if he will e—mail me with the details, we will get right onto it. while we understand these are exceptional circumstances
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there is understandably grave grave concern about the lowering of social care standards. we are talking about some of the most vulnerable in our society, the elderly and disabled of all ages and having the human rights that the convention on human rights as a back—up could see care standards lowered to a dangerously low level, putting these people at risk. to the secretary of state outlined what would be the thresholds for turning these powers on? and indeed back off again to ensure that these do not become the new norm? i understand her concerns, but in fact, the purpose of this is precisely the opposite. it's to make sure that those who need social care when there is no shortage of social care workers, those that need social care to live there everyday life can get it, and that they could be prioritised over and above those who have a current legal obligation, legal right to social care under the care act of 2014. but for whom it is not
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a matter of life and death, so this is absolutely about prioritising the vulnerable, and that's the purpose of the legislation. but was the government doing enough to make people stay at home? i have had more than 1000 e—mails over the weekend from constituents that are petrified as to what is going on. the highland area is more than 10% of the uk landmass. we have one acute hospital in inverness. some of these tourist destinations are more than three hours from inverness. we have been absolutely inundated with people that show no concern for the local population. people that are saying that they are now being denied the right to travel to the islands by fairy, because we've stopped at that they are going to come to sky. this is a dangerous dangerous situation for the lives of our constituents. they must go home, and they must stay at home. he will be aware, over the weekend, thousands of people made the decision to holiday areas and rural areas such as mine. in terms of schedule 21, do the powers that allow ministers
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to require people local health birds increase pressure to remain in their primary residences. he makes an important point. because we have advised against all unnecessary travel. i don't regard go into your holiday home in wales as a necessary journey. i completely despair of some of the scenes that i have seen it from our fellow citizens over the last few days. the panic buying, the hoarding, frankly, of essential goods, which are —— therefore be denied to many people who most need them, including our key workers, is a disgrace. it's pouring out of selfishness, in it must stop. people ignoring advice because somehow or other they think they are going to be immune to this disease, or because it's only going to affect some other people, and that is, again, an instance of massive selfishness, and it really must stop. it does feel that we are constantly
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behind the curve, we are always waiting for people not to do what we've asked them to do before we then step in and try to introduce more strict communications. so i would beg him, will he underpin this legislation and everything else the government is doing with a much bigger, wider, louder, more comprehensive public education campaign, because right now, it clearly is not getting through. labour demanded action. we as her majesty's opposition do not call in the government to move to enforce social distancing and greater social protections as a matter of urgency. because, i'm sorry and disappointed, but i'm afraid that many people are not adhering to the social distancing. it is time, not just to ask people to do social distancing, but to enforce those social distancing rules, not next week, not this week, but right away. so i support the call made by the shadow secretary of state to do that. i think it's very important
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that we do it as soon as we possibly can. he called for an immediate and massive increase in the production of personal protection equipment for nhs staff and for the rigorous testing and tracking of every case of coronavirus. those countries that have turned back the virus, rigorously track and test every case and every suspected case, they identify every single person of covid—19 patient has been in contact with them and they take them out of circulation. the result is that those countries have avoided the dramatic measures and to some of the economic damage that we have seen in europe. well, the bill passed without a vote and it'll now go to the house of lords. and some of the economic damage that we have seen in europe. you're watching monday in parliament with me, mandy baker. now, sunday marked the third anniversary of the murder of pc keith palmer on the forecourt of the palace of westminster. the 48—year—old police
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officer was attacked by khalid masood while on duty at the gates of parliament. he died despite the attempts of the emergency services and the mp tobias ellwood to save him. pc palmer was one of five people killed in masood's attack on 22 march 2017. the speaker, sir lindsay hoyle, paid tribute to him. yesterday, 22 march, marked the third anniversary of the death of pc keith palmer who died in line of duty, protecting parliament from a terrorist attack. his sacrifice will not be forgotten. i express, on behalf of the whole house, our sympathy with his family, friends and colleagues on this sad anniversary. we are grateful every day to the police service and emergency services in all parts of the country for all what they do. and priti pateljoined the speaker in paying tribute to keith palmer at the start of home office questions. during the session,
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the home secretary said it wouldn't be appropriate for police officers to maintain order inside supermarkets in the face of panic—buying. mps on both sides of the house called on the government to provide greater security as well as protection for retail workers. some of my constituents have asked for a police presence in supermarkets. would she agree with me that, while there may be a case for increased patrol around supermarkets, the people need to buy more responsibly? my friend is absolutely right. it is right we are seeing a great demand on our supermarkets. it is not appropriate for police officers to be inside supermarkets, and i myself and other colleagues across government have been working with the securities industry association — because they are the ones that provide guards at supermarkets — to look after the function of supermarkets. of course, the answer to his question is, everyone should behave responsibly and make sure that we are being kind to people
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but also observing the right kind of social practices in supermarkets. no one on the side of the house want to see police officers in supermarkets, but if the situation remains unmanageable, will the minister consider talking to the shops and the supermarket owners in order to see whether possibly patrols, community support officers in the vicinities of the larger supermarkets, might play a role? well, mr speaker, the right honourable lady is quite right to raise this issue, and i hope to reassure her that we are in very close contact both with the police about what patterns of behaviour they are seeing and the industry. i have meetings with the prime minister and defra on a regular basis. we hope in the next few days,
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things will settle down. 0ur food and supply chain in supermarkets is strong and we are assured by those companies they can fulfil demand as it comes. the lack of sense of some parts of the british public, i'm afraid, is putting retail workers under enormous pressure and threat. retail workers cannot often be two metres apart from other people, especially checkouts. this point was brought home to me by a constituent of mine who witnessed somebody being spat on for refusing to allow bulk— buying. can the minister please revisit what he and the home secretary have already said about the need to protect retail workers? we cannot afford for them to become sick. mr speaker, the honourable gentleman is quite right to raise this issue once again. and as i said earlier, the protection of retail workers is one of our foremost issues
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on our mind. i have myself noticed a number of retailers who are taking a number of protective measures, standing two metres from a retail worker, but he is quite right. and where there are more serious offences, action does need to be taken. and the incident he mentions, that is a crime and should be reported to the police accordingly. kit malthouse. in the house of lords, peers were concerned about the numbers of black and ethnic minority students being referred to special pupil referral units — or prus. the units provide alternative provision for pupils, often for behavioural reasons, away from mainstream education. a labour peer wanted to know what the government was doing to keep them within the main school sector. as we all know, young people are very vulnerable and are exposed to gangs once excluded from school.
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we know the trap exists for young people who are not in mainstream school. the majority of these young people are young black boys. also, with a partial closure, this is what we are having now — partial closure of school — is that any... it is true education is one of the strongest protective factors for young people and it is this government's ambition there should be an expansion of alternative provision and that actually being excluded from a mainstream setting should not be an ecclusion from excellent education. and we have the same aspirations for those in the ap sector as we do in other educational settings. my lords, diane abbott said many years ago, "once you have excluded a black child from school, you can almost put a time and date on when they will turn up in prison. " my lords, this is still true today. to the excellent coalition
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of bame practitioners, no more exclusions... it cost the taxpayer to 1p a year. many go to pupil referral units. only 1% go many go to pupil referral units. only 1% go on to achieve good gcses. however, two—thirds of those will go to prison. clearly the prus are not fit for purpose. does the minister agree with me we should stop all school exclusions, as some people do, like in northampton, given the fact it is bame children more likely to be excluded? as i said last week, we must recruit more workers... we must recruit more black teachers and others from disadvantaged backgrounds, including roma, traveller, and gypsy. i apologise for going on. the noble lord makes an important point. we are aware that the educational outcomes for students who are in alternative provision are not high enough, but 85% of all state—funded schools last year did not permanently
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exclude any pupils. but the government does support that, as a last resort, head teachers must have the power to exclude pupils, but that, as we have outlined, it should not be a ticket into education that is less than excellent. in fact, 83% of alternative providers were judged by ofsted to be good and outstanding — only slightly less than overall for schools, which is 86%. would the minister accept that certain hidden conditions, such as dyslexia, tend to be even slower to be picked up among the bame community than they are among others? usually due to things like being working class and that many of these conditions are seen to be white, middle—class problems which are identified by the parents and then through the education system? when are we going to get a better provision for the schools to spot this?
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in relation to teachers, there is a project specifically aimed at increasing the diversity of the workforce, which is an important factor. but in relation to the under diagnosis, every child that is not meeting the represent attainment standards should then graduate... graduated action should then be taken, regardless of a diagnosis. the education minister. well, let's end where we started off, with the coronavirus. and a lib dem peer told the lords about her own experience of the virus. i think i was the first in your lordship‘s house to go through this virus, and i wish other noble lords the best should they face what i was facing. i would like to say to the noble lord the minister my experience
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of the lack of capacity in the nhs only a few days ago. paramedics not knowing that breathing difficulties were associated with coronavirus, no proper delineation of red and green zones when we were in the isolation part of the hospital, taken through the a&e part to get there, inadequate protective clothing of those in that isolation unit and, above all, the poor doctor who was looking after me telling me that her colleagues could not be tested for coronavirus even though they were getting ill and they had treated and given transfusions to known coronavirus cases. and that was two or three days after chris whitty briefed us here about how testing was absolutely vital and would be continued in what was coming down the so—called delay phase.
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can he reassure us that that lack of capacity, which to me was astonishing in a north london hospital, is actually being addressed? my lords, i welcome the testimony of the noble baroness, and i cannot help but be moved by the situation which she has described. this virus has moved incredibly quickly and hospitals are, i think, doing amazing work to adapt to the conditions that the virus requires. but it has moved quickly and everyone is learning how to do it on the job. a former health minister had a question about testing. we know that staff are having to self—isolate because someone at home seems to be sick, but they may not be? what kind of numbers are we talking about? the prime minister's talked by getting up to 25,000 a day. they're 65 million people in the country. what is the ambition notjust in four weeks, but eight weeks and 12 weeks of what we might get to and how we are going to get there?
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my noble friend is quite right to press me for numbers. the tests we are talking about are new to this virus, some of them only a few weeks old. it requires the tests to be tested to ensure that they are delivering accurate results. and for that reason, it is difficult to commit to the kinds of numbers he searches for, but it is very much the desire of the prime minister to have testing as a central part in our battle against the virus. and that's what we are putting enormous resources into it. i welcome the comments, the reassurance we have had from the minister that testing is being scaled up, especially for health workers. but surely a serological test will be a game changer, to be able to track those who have had the virus and help those who are most vulnerable. my noble friend is entirely right. there are multiple tests.
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one is an antigen test, to ensure that those in hospital, working with patients, don't currently carry the virus. and the serological, or antibody test, that will confirm you have the antibodies and that you can return to work, either on the front line or back to work. both of those tests do currently exist, but mass production is restrained and we are working extremely hard with manufacturers around the world and with british firms to massively escalate our capacity. and those comments by lord bethell bring us to the end of the programme. david cornock will be here at the same time tomorrow for tuesday in parliament. but for now from me, mandy baker, goodbye. good morning.
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very little weather change during the next 24—36 hours and that means for england and wales, for many of you, blue skies will continue to dominate, a bit of warmth from that spring sunshine too, whereas for scotland, northern ireland, like we saw yesterday, rather cloudy skies. and for some it's going to be particularly wet. especially the closer you are to this weather front, which will straddle the north—west of scotland throughout, and it will take a while but to gradually shift. that could cause some minorflooding. further south, high pressure remains dominant and to take us into the start of today, it means where we've got the clearest of the skies, the chilliest conditions. a sprinkle of frost across england and wales, with temperatures very close to freezing. sunshine dominating here once again. whereas further north, scotland and northern ireland, can't rule out some sunshine to the east and north of higher ground but rain will come and go, particularly across the highlands and more especially the hebrides, later into skye, 0rkney, and shetland and it's across the far north—west. gale force winds with that rain. there is the chance of some minorflooding. as i said, the odd splash of rain elsewhere across scotland, northern ireland. but most will be dry. a bit more cloud to the far
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western fringes of england and wales but for most blue skies overhead once again. and it will be an even warmer day than we saw on monday. temperatures could hit around 17 degrees in north—east wales and around merseyside. so a great day to get those windows open, let a bit of fresh air through. temperatures in scotland, northern ireland, 10—12 degrees. they're not going to drop too much as we go through tuesday night into wednesday, because the cloud, the breeze will be in place and further outbreaks of rain persisting across the north—west highlands especially. away from that, a bit more cloud, northern england and north wales, temperatures not dropping as much. it's across the midlands, southern england, where we like to see a frost start wednesday. lots of sunshine again. still fairly cloudy for scotland and northern ireland. there will still be splashes of rain elsewhere. temperatures close to 16—17 degrees. to take us into thursday, a bit more mist and fog around.
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plenty of sunshine for most across england and wales. most places will be dry by this stage. it is starting to turn colder from the north. the trend will continue. a zone of cloud that's when we start to see the wind switch around to a northerly direction. potentially bringing some of the cold est potentially bringing some of the coldest air we have seen for a while. it will be offset by the strength of the march it will be offset by the strength of the marcthunshine for the but either way, flavour, temperatures drop back into single figures. one or two flurries of snow are possible.
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welcome to bbc news. our top stories: britain imposes strict new measures. people can only leave their homes for very limited reasons. without a huge national effort to halt the growth of this virus, there will come a moment when no health service in the world could possibly cope. because there won't be enough ventilators, enough intensive care beds, enough doctors and nurses. president trump says he's working with both republicans and democrats to get a huge economic stimulus package agreed. and we'll have the lastest from australia, where the premier of new south wales says the state is at a critical moment in its fight against the virus.
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