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as we are part of it, not outside it. this will, in time, be over. and then what have we learned? i'm 83 years old. i will die. the cause of death is birth. the only real things in life are food and love, in that order. just like our little dog ruby. i really believe this, and the source of art is love. i love life. all my love, david h. well, that's david hockney‘s way of dealing with lockdown. boxerjoseph parker has chosen something very different. you might remember last week we showed you the video of his hugh grant dancing impression — well now he's joined forces with fellow boxer tyson fury and others, to show off their dancing talents. let's go! # why do you build me up, build me up, buttercup, baby # just to let me down
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and mess me around # i went to the door, i can't take any more # it's not you, you let me down again # hey, hey, hey! # baby, baby, try to find # hey, hey, hey! # a little time and i'll make you happy # hey, hey, hey! # i'll be home # i'll be beside the phone, waiting for you # ooo—oo—ooo, ooo—oo—ooo # why do you build me up, build me, buttercup, baby # just to let me down and mess me around # and then worst of all, you never call, baby # when you say you will, but i love you still # i need you more than anyone, darlin‘ # you know that i have from the start # so build me up, build me up, buttercup, don't break my heart. # that takes us to the weather
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prospects. i like tyson fury‘s suit. today is fairly quiet weather with cloud spilling down across the uk with showers around. we had sunshine across southern england but that is fading as the cloud move south. sunny in the channel islands and sunshine in northern scotland after the rain move south. mainly affecting the western side of scotla nd affecting the western side of scotland and heading into northern ireland later today. temperatures similarto ireland later today. temperatures similar to yesterday. what is left of the rain and drizzle in scotland and northern ireland will move into england and wales, keeping the cloud down here. later in the night more showers pushing into scotland and northern ireland. clearer skies in scotla nd northern ireland. clearer skies in scotland and north—east england but no frost because the wind will pick up no frost because the wind will pick up and no frost in southern england because we start with a cloudy theme. sunshine at times on thursday but showers pushing in, heavier in
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scotla nd but showers pushing in, heavier in scotland and wintry, even to low levels for a while. we will notice stronger winds in many parts of the country. windy in scotland, gales in the north, gusts over 65 mph in the northern isles, adding to the chill. 13-14 in northern isles, adding to the chill. 13—14 in eastern england where it should be largely dry with sunshine at times. getting into the colder air by the end of thursday here as the weather front takes the shower south. as we head to the south—west, a high pressure will build towards the uk and the wind will drop overnight into friday. where we have clearer skies there may be a frost to start the day. as we head into friday, we will probably find cloud will increase from the south—west. showers around, mainly across the north of the uk and in scotland, showers could be wintry. still quite
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cold here with temperatures up to 7-9. 11-12 in cold here with temperatures up to 7—9. 11—12 in southern parts of england and wales. things change this weekend with high—pressure moving into continental europe. that changes our weather and we pick up a strengthening southerly and ahead of that weather front which will bring rain from the west but we are likely to find temperatures rising through the weekend. on saturday for many, it will be dry. sunshine at times but rain in the west on sunday and further east, dry, sunny and warm. 19-20 further east, dry, sunny and warm. 19—20 degrees possibly. that's all from us, now it's time for the news where you are. good afternoon, i'm chetan pathak, it's 1.30pm and here's your latest sports news. premier league players are being told they're living in a "moral vacuum" and should be the first to sacrifice
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their salaries during the coronavirus pandemic. those are the words ofjulian knight, chair of the department for culture, media and sport committee. it's after tottenham, newcastle and norwich opted to use the government'sjob retention scheme, putting their non playing staff on leave with a 20% wage cut — while players continue to earn their full salaries. premier league and efl clubs are meeting today to discuss a potential wage deferal agreement for players. i think it sticks in the throat, because at the moment, they are paying hundreds of thousands of pounds a week to their premier league starts while at the same time asking the taxpayer to pay their nonplaying staff may only be on hundreds of pounds a week. i think it shows the crazed economics of football, and i think that long term, there needs to be a new way of doing business. my view is that people need the most
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help. footballers should be the first, with respect, to sacrifice their salary rather than the person with the programmes or doing catering who may not get nearly the salary that footballers get. it should be those who go first because they can carry the greatest burden and possibly have savings, rather than those in catering and hospitality is who probably have no savings. well, in a joint statement, the premier league and english football league say there are "no quick answers" on how and when football will return. no matches are scheduled until next month at the earliest due to the pandemic. all 55 uefa members are taking part in a conference call to discuss how to finish domestic seasons across europe. bbc sport understands that the completion of the champions league and europa league is likely to be pushed back to july/august time, with a statement from uefa due soon. for the first time since world war two, wimbledon could be cancelled today, as a series of emergency meetings
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between organisers continue. the championships are due to take place from the end ofjune for a fortnight, and while postponement was discussed, it's likely the whole grass court season will be called off. the calendar is already starting to become a little more congested towards the end of the year, because eve ryo ne towards the end of the year, because everyone who has had tournaments cancelled is fighting for spaces to try to complete, i suppose, the season try to complete, i suppose, the season as best they can. one of the big challenges for wimbledon is now that it big challenges for wimbledon is now thatitis big challenges for wimbledon is now that it is around grass, which is not an artificial service, and also the further that you go on in the year or down in the calendar, you have less likely, the covered course. there are big challenges for us course. there are big challenges for us in terms of postponing it. and before we go, how would you celebrate your birthday today as lockdown continues across the uk? well, if you're scotland's former commonwealth games javelin
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throwerjamie campbell, the answer is running a marathon. in his six—metre long garden! he's doing it to raise money for the nhs. that's all the sport for now. it is going to take him a while but a great cause. you can find more on all those stories on the bbc sport website. that's bbc.co.uk/sport. he must be really dizzy. round and round for the duration of a marathon. a very good afternoon. you are watching bbc news. i will be with you for the next few hours as we keep you up—to—date with all the developments concerning coronavirus. every day, of course, we try to get through as many of your questions as we can. the bbc is still inundated with questions about so many aspects
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of the lockdown and the virus itself, all the testing we have been talking about today. let us take a few minutes to hear again some of the questions we went through earlier in the day, particularly around the whole issue of health. let us hear some of that discussion on the victoria derbyshire programme. we get so many questions each day. thank you for sending the end, and we are going to put some to the experts. let us introduce you today to professor ed feil, professor of epidemiology. ed, have i pronounced your surname correctly? not quite, but it's all right. it's "file". "file". i knew i'd get it wrong. thank you for correcting me. professor of epidemiology at the university of bath, and also doctor rosemary leonard who is a gp. welcome to both of you, thank you for talking to us. rosemary, this is from anna. anna says this. when a person tests positive for a coronavirus with mild symptoms, how long should they self—isolate for and when is it
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safe to go outside again? so the official advice on this is you need to self—isolate for seven days. it is thought that after that, you won't be spreading virus to other people. you should no longer be infectious. i know there are some people who are questioning that, and certainly, if you are still feeling unwell, i would say still self—isolate longer until you are feeling better. sure. but if you are in the house with other people, then they have to stay in the house for 11! days. they have to stay in for 11! days from the onset of your symptoms, and then if one of them gets unwell, becomes unwell, then they have to then self—isolate themselves for seven days from the beginning of their symptoms. understood. ed, could the severity of someone's final illness be related to the degree and depth of the initial exposure? and that is from philip. that is a good question. we know for sure that age
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is obviously a huge factor in the severity of the illness. but it is also true that there is a wide range of severity of symptoms, even within a specific age group, and it is likely that what we call viral load or the dosage of the virus contributes to the severity of the disease, and yes, this can help explain why so many doctors are sadly getting severely ill and even dying from the disease. there are other factors as well. we know that men get more of a severe disease than women. it may be that some of the severity of the disease is down to other pathogens, other than the virus. secondary infections. there are lots of complicated things going on here, but i think viral load or exposure to the virus is probably contributing to that, yes. right. rosemary, this is from sarah. once you have recovered from the virus, can you still infect
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others even though you won't get the full blown virus again yourself? it is thought not. i know there had been reports, very rare reports of people getting it twice, but it is thought once you have had it and recovered, you should no longer be shedding viruses. you should be able to carry on. you carry on, you know, back into a normal —ish life, you are immune. in fact, what we desperately need now is an antibody test so we know who has had the virus, who has recovered, who is immune, because those are the people that can then go out and help other people. so once you have recovered, you can't still infect others, that is what you're saying? yes, that is what i am saying. ed, is still a reason why the recorded recovery rate in the uk is extremely low to other countries? this is from kevin. that is a good question. on the face of it, those statistics do look very worrying,
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but really it is just reflecting the way we are testing in this country at the moment, in that we are only really testing say 5% of the cases that are the most critically ill, so there will be many people recovering at home who won't be registered as recovered because you would actually need to have a negative test as well to actually be formally registered as recovered. so that can explain really why it looks as though the recovery rate is so low, but in actual fact, it is probably no different from other countries. there is no difference in the way the virus is behaving between here and other countries. this is from sheila, i will put it to rosemary. my husband has asthma. if he gets the virus and has breathing difficulties, should i phone 999 or iii? the first call is to 111. the other thing you could do is if it is during opening hours,
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you can ring your gp surgery. gps are doing a lot of work by telephone. we have ways... 111, if they are concerned about it, they may actually send the call on to the gp surgery. we have the way of assessing breathing actually over the phone. we have developed new ways of assessing how bad someone's breathing is. if 11! are very concerned, then they will send an ambulance to take the person to hospital, but if they think they just need more help with managing the breathing and asthma, that is something the gp can do. can i be honest with you and say if my husband had asthma and he got the virus and had breathing difficulties, i might be tempted to ring 999. it depends on the breathing difficulties. if someone is really acutely short of breath, then yes, you can ring 999, but what is happening with this virus is some people are getting just a little bit short of breath and they don't need to go to hospital. they can be managed at home.
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so it all depends on the degree of the breathing difficulty, but clearly if someone is incredibly short of breath, then yes, you should ring 999. this is from bill. ed, i'll put this to you. do i need to wash alljars of food and take the outer cardboard of foods? i read that the coronavirus survives on glass, plastic, cardboard and goodness knows what else. we do ask this question every single day, but i think it is such a big one, it is worth asking again. yes, it really is. it is true that the virus can remain active on surfaces, on hard surfaces, plastic and steel, at least for a couple of days. on cardboard, for at least a day, so you may have read reports that the virus can remain active for much longer than that, it may be for a couple of weeks. that is not so clear. it may be that those tests are detecting dead bits of the virus
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that aren't actually infectious any more, but certainly can remain active for a short time. so washing jars is not... it is going to help. throwing away, removing any outer packaging of cardboard will also help, but it is also quite a simple way of managing this is to have a quarantine cupboard where you can keep all your supplies in a cupboard for a couple of days without touching them, and that should really reduce the risk quite a lot, so obviously it is difficult to sterilise all of your foodstuffs, but those are common—sense measures you can take. and this is probably the final one. rosemary, i'll put this to you. it is from sarah. when does the nhs think elective surgery is going to happen again? it is going to be many, many, many months, because it's not going to be until the pandemic curve is coming right down, the number of patients in hospital has come right down, so that there is actually the facility with patient beds again. i would imagine...
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i don't think it is going to be... we are looking at six months, i think. in all honesty. i know that sounds like a long time and particularly for people who are in pain with arthritis. waiting for hip replacements. i've got a patient who has been waiting to have her gall bladder removed, but i honestly think that being realistic, it is going to be six months. thank you both. thank you for your time. doctor rosemary leonard who is a gp, and ed feil, professor of epidemiology at the university of bath. thank you. coming up at 2.30, we'll be doing another your questions answered with our health correspondent michelle roberts and doctor amir khan so do send us your questions.
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you might be familiar with them if you have been watching a lot in the coming days and weeks, but obviously health concerns and observations and lots of talk today about testing as well of course, so that will be coming upjust well of course, so that will be coming up just after half past two, and the text number and e—mail is what you can reach us on. the headlines on bbc news... a growing political row as the government comes under increasing pressure to do more coronavirus testing. 16,000 staff may be needed when the newly converted nightingale hospital in east london reaches capacity. president trump warns the us to expect a rough two weeks and to stick to social distancing — saying it's a matter of life and death.
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new zealand's prime minster has warned it could take britons some time to get back to the uk. jacinda ardern said that while her country is willing to help, it needed to be done in a way that did not negatively affect local people in lockdown. meanwhile in australia, tens of thousands of british travellers are struggling to return home, after being told they were low on a list of priorities for repatriation. shaimaa khalil reports from sydney. these are the lucky ones. travellers stuck in australia, finally able to go home. many are brits heeding the government's call to return to the uk. it's been weeks of chaos and confusion, with no guarantees of when they could get on a plane. i've been anxious all week, fearful, that one we would never get back, and if we were going to get back it would be june, july or maybe september. it was quite hard to find information, to get clear, concise, accurate, reliable information has
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been a bit of a nightmare. we don't want to be here with all this going on. our families back home. if they've gone on lockdown, i haven't got a job forjames and nicola, it's an abrupt end to living for a year in australia but with two flights to sydney already cancelled they are glad to be at the airport. relief. even though it's a very difficult place to leave because we love it here, it's a beautiful place, beautiful people, it will be a relief once we get home because it has been a big effort getting this far. the message from the uk government is that there will be no repatriation flights while commercial ones are available here in australia. but we have been hearing from travellers complaining of last—minute cancellations and of tickets being too expensive. and while some people are able to get on flights to go back home, tens of thousands of others are trying the same thing with no success. carol mcghee has booked four different flights back to scotland from western australia.
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but all have been pulled by the airlines. she helps run a facebook group for britons stranded here. i think the foreign office have been absolutely no use whatsoever. people are spending thousands of pounds on tickets, those are the ones who can afford it, and the rest of them are left with no food, no accommodation, no shelter. no help whatsoever. and they are just in dire straits. britain's high commissioner to australia said emergency loans were available for the most desperate and that they were working with airlines to keep commercial routes going during an unprecedented crisis. but with border closure in key transit points and ever evolving restrictions, travellers are caught between the urgency to get back home and the uncertainty of when or if that will happen. whilst many countries around the world are grappling
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just some words about the issues of ventilators, coming from downing street, saying that the first batch of new ventilators being produced by a consortium of companies will come out of this weekend. it will include, we are told, about 30 devices. we have been double—checking this, but it does seem to say 30. of course, you will be aware that the number that has been talked about by health officials for the last couple of weeks is that they would like, i'm pretty sure i am right in saying, 30,000. we talked about dyson perhaps eventually being able to come a warrant, to do about 10,000, so this is the pen along ventilator, adapted from existing designs, and it is being manufactured by a consortium, including mclaren and mercedes and various other companies like that. it appears to be 30
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devices this weekend, and the prime minister's spokesman saying that hundreds more will follow in the coming weeks. this is about ventilators from that specific consortium of companies. there are lots of others involved in this, and i have mentioned dyson already, but that initially for this weekend doesn't seem to be a small number, but it is the figure of 30 and we are trying to get more detail on that, but that has just come through from downing street. whilst many countries around the world are grappling with ever—increasing coronavirus cases, some in the east are in a different phase of the pandemic. china has for now got a grip on the virus and is harnessing the power of its surveillance state to track, monitor and control people to stop the spread of the disease. now some of china's techniques are being copied by a growing number of countries. but what are the potential pitfalls for privacy and freedom? our cyber—security reporter joe tidy explains.
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this robot is disinfecting the subway train, so that humans don't have to. it is one of the high—tech tools that china is using to fight the coronavirus, along with drones and facial recognition cameras. but what about the tech we can see? china's sophisticated and controversial data surveillance system is used to track citizens on and off—line. and it is proving extremely effective during the pandemic. the mass surveillance network has taken the communist party decades to build. they faced near constant criticism for it around the world. but as the world tries to get a grip on covid—19, many countries are looking to the model for answers. here is how they are doing it in south korea. they are using a phone to locate where you are, and then they will send
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you an emergency alert. if you are anywhere near where i confirmed coronavirus patient has been. singapore, israel, taiwan, iran, and russia, they have all adopted some or all of the chinese methods to temporarily harness the power of data. more are expected to follow. so how does china's data surveillance system work and how is it useful in a pandemic? it all starts with this, a national id card. you need one to pretty much do anything in china, from buying a mobile phone to using any app. everything you do leaves a data trail, linked back to your id. in areas in lockdown, phone location data is being used to monitor movement and enforce curfews. if a patient is meant to be in quarantine, geolocation pings on their phone can alert local authorities if they stray out of their homes. phone location data is also being used to map exactly where that person visited in the two weeks
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before being diagnosed. a combination of human and automated computer analysis work out who they may have infected. if they went on a train and got too close to other commuters, a text message is sent out through one of the major apps, alerting those at risk. every person is being assigned a coloured qr code, depending on the risk they pose. green, no risk. orange, they have entered a potential virus hotspot. and read if they have tested positive for the virus and could still be contagious. none of this cyber surveillance would be any good without the chinese state's strict enforcement teams as well. police and volunteers have literally manned the entrances of apartment blocks to keep places on lockdown. but in countries where these data at surveillance powers are being brought in to help deal with coronavirus, some people are worried about the long—term.
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my name is adam schwartz, i am a senior lawyer at the electronic frontier foundation. there is a great concern that when governments get new powers in a crisis, government never gives those powers away, even when the crisis ends, so for example in the wake of the 9/11 attacks, the united states created a vast new surveillance power. 19 years later, those powers are still very much in the hands of the american government. adam and others also have questions aboutjust how much of a difference this data surveillance can make, and if it is worth it. what we are basically saying to the governments around the world is before you unveil or unleash a brand—new mass surveillance power, it is necessary for governments to come forward and really public health professionals to come forward and show that these technologies would actually address the crisis. striking the delicate balance between privacy and security is an age old problem for governments and the public.
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but perhaps never in history it has the dilemma been more pressing and more life—threatening. more coming up from two o'clock. now it's time for a look at the weather with darren bett. we have a lot of cloud spilling across the uk at the moment, with rain in scotland as it heads into northern ireland and moving down towards england and wales coming very light and patchy, but keeping the cloud here. behind that, we will see showers arriving in northern ireland, northern and western scotla nd ireland, northern and western scotland overnight. some clearer skies for eastern scotland and england, but with the wind picking up, it will not get too cold, and all that cloud. there will be clad around on thursday, some showers coming in on that freshening breeze. showers in scotland turning wintry on the hills, although easing down a bit in the afternoon. however, the winds will be stronger for all of
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this is bbc news, i'mjane hill. the headlines... a growing political row as the government comes under increasing pressure to do more coronavirus testing. we want to see more people tested, very rapidly. we do now have enough tests to be testing those people in critical conditions in hospitals. we need that national plan, but for the test which tests whether you have got it now and the new test which will be coming on stream soon, which tests whether you've had it. 16,000 staff may be needed when the newly converted nightingale hospital in east london reaches capacity. president trump warns the us to expect a rough two weeks and to stick to social distancing — saying it's a matter of life and death.
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