lyse, a little further east for your story, one which has relevance new york state recorded its biggest forjournalists around the world. one—dayjump in coronavirus deaths yes, it throws us back to last time the world thought it was fighting so far — 630. in total more than 3,500 people a common war, that was the attacks of september 11th. in the state have died. news came from pakistan governor andrew cuomo warned the worst is yet to come and hospitals aren't prepared. that the high court overturned the two countries which have suffered the highest numbers of deaths in the coronavirus pandemic have both reported progress the death sentence for in tackling the outbreak. a british—born militant spain reported its lowest number who was convicted of abducting and murdering the wall street of new infections in more journalist who was 58 than ten days. in italy, deaths linked to the virus at the time, daniel pearl. he said he could be released from jail because there was not have continued their downward trend. enough evidence of him actually carrying out the act, the government in the uk has urged he was just an accomplice. people to stay at home, as the death toll from coronavirus rose by 700 in one day, including a five—year—old boy. there are indications that the spread of the infection in the uk is slowing because of there was a huge outcry, the lockdown restrictions. including from the us state department, and the lower court who said, fine, we are arresting them and they cannot leave. now on bbc news — dateline london. it is a reminder of the unfinished business of other wars.

there has been an investigation from georgetown university that actually 0mar sheikh was involved in it but actually didn't know that daniel pearl himself. and the real guy who did it is languishing in guantanamo bay. a complicated tale but a reminder that these wars have a very long tail and the suffering and pain connected to them. daniel pearl was trying to find some of the people involved in the attacks of 9/11 in pakistan, and he paid a terrible price, it was a horrible story hello, and welcome to the programme which brings together some of the uk's leading specialist journalists with the foreign correspondents based here who file their stories with the dateline "london". at the time and still is. joining us from home: stefanie bolzen is uk and ireland correspondent for germany's die welt. michael goldfarb presents the frdh podcast — that's the first rough stefanie, your interest in europe, there was one particular eu country draft of history. you wanted to mention. and, boy, what history is he reporting on now. and with me again — at a safe distance — i am maybe staying a bit closer the bbc‘s chief international correspondent, lyse doucet. to home, it is a story that has been grounded she may be by covid—i9, but her curiosity about reported in the uk and europe the world remains undiminished. we'll begin here in the uk. but i think it's an interesting story on a wider scale. it's week two of the "great stay at home," and the statistics suggest

it's working — dramatic falls in journeys on public transport, little activity at airports, quieter roads. this, though, is the calm before the storm. because of the time lag between becoming infected and showing signs, those who are dying now were infected on monday this week, before the lockdown. the hungarian parliament with a two thirds majority allowed viktor 0rban from now on to rule by decree, this without any time limit. this is something we have seen, epidemiologists think we're two especially in hungary, to three weeks behind italy but also in poland, that these and spain, which has seen countries tend to really undermine more than 10,000 die. the constitutional checks and balances of their countries, in the uk, so far, coronavirus has whether it be on the freedom caused under 4,000 deaths — of the press, also the independence it's only after the event we'll know of thejudiciary. whether we did enough. we can really see that some stefanie, what have you been governments now use the crisis telling your readers about how to just simply for power grabs. the uk is handling this epidemic? kind of a roller—coaster. on one hand, the question evolves from how well parliament, i think as much emotionally and therefore democracy, for a person living in the uk after the crisis get into the place and having a family here. it should be? on a wider scale, the question of civil liberties. if i look at germany, my own country, it is quite famous for data protection. but also from the continent, because of our history, people are very wary of any especially from germany, intrusion of their privacy our readers have been very and private lives, of course because of the nazi story interested in looking at how the british government

manages the crisis. generally, the impression was that borisjohnson has been very slow, and the stasi in the gdr. he was a very slow to actually tell people they had to stay at home, you almost got the impression that he didn't want to tell people it is seen as a very good means to do anything, he is not a person at to track people with smartphones, who likes to tell people where they were going, to follow orders. but that has now risen to criticism, how they are moving. and once this is over, but actually, the british government do we go back to civil liberties has not taken advantage and the protection of the private of being behind the curve person as we were before and introducing very strong measures coronavirus? in terms of social distancing to actually stop the spread of the virus more quickly than countries such as italy as a sociologist and political scientist said after the attacks and spain were able to do. of september 11th, they reminded us that it is often at the event itself that has the longest repercussions, michael, you are obviously podcasting and trying to get it is our response to the event that a message out to the uk, could actually prove focusing around the world notjust the us, what do you need or how to be more catastrophic. we saw what happened after the september 11th attacks, things have been handled so far? two major international invasions, the first thing i did was i avoided

it because that isjust so much out there that is no more thanjust numbers are being bandied around etc, etc, and decline of civil and it is difficult to figure out liberties in many parts where they come from, of the world. so i actually read william blake, as stefanie mentioned, springtime poetry. in other areas, i have been writing, the human rights chief of the un and i'm very interested to know yesterday spoke out about this about how much... and warned that the surveillance, because the us and the uk have which is quite effective in some approached this crisis up to a point in the same way, initially saying, countries, the tracing that well, we are not going to lock down, south korea has used has we will not shut down our economies, been very effective. but some leaders could take advantage of the situation as stefanie has been talking possibly because most of the victims about in hungary to take all powers, initially were in their 805. to use michael's phrase, a law unto themselves, at this time because they can say, "anything justifies it because i'm saving lives." as the pandemic ravages parts of europe, an old dispute has been revived under a new label. well, some people close member states are debating to borisjohnson and the president corona bonds, said, well, this happens. a way of sharing the cost around the eu to help the member countries whose i wonder how much coordination that economies are most affected. but as in the eurozone actually was in messaging, crisis of a decade ago, they're in the south, and countries like germany even making policy up on the fly and the netherlands — prudent with their money — have already rejected a call between the white house and downing from france, italy, spain, ireland and five other countries for a common debt instrument.

street. as for that, one of the world's oldest unions i think that is a fruitful area is feeling the economic strain too — forjournalists to go 10 million people are nowjobless out and explore. in the united states of america. i suppose at least a borisjohnson michael, how is the united states is listening to his doctor's advice, coping with that prospect? it does not seem donald trump is not well, i don't think anyone can begin too keen to follow the advice about wearing a face mask. to have a policy for that. how do you feel about that? when the economy — and it's being shutdown piecemeal, i am aware that the president is a law unto himself, remember that the federal response although he calls boris from the white house has been — two weeks ago, they were saying johnson britain trump. "we will be in church for easter." now finally the penny has dropped, borisjohnson is not and they are acknowledging that this like that, let's be clear. is going to go on for he has tested positively, he is self—isolating, quite some time. and number of people around the cabinet table have and the states are having also tested positive. to shutdown new york city, now the epicentre of the global pandemic, donald trump and a face mask, effectively shutdown. it was going to be a moment the latest news is this, there was a machine invented of increased unemployment, to turn them out quickly, this was done during the 0bama administration. but i think even people when president trump came in, who study it — he cancelled the programme, 3.3 million people filed

so instead of being able to crank unemployment claims last week. out hundreds of thousands of masks 6.6 million people in the weekjust in a medical without too much finished, that's 10 million people. problems, we are now to me, it seems to me that this in the situation well that are not is a moment that's the equivalent of the 1929 stock market crash. enough mask for front line staff, the stock market crash didn't immediately cause the depression. for people living in major urban areas which is where the outbreak and to answer your question, is more severe. several years went by while the ripples, big ripples went as a journalist, we provide much throughout the economy is the first rough draft of history, and ultimately ended with mass but also a snapshot where we broadcast one part unemployment and banks collapsing. of the sentence are not the other. i think when you look at 10 million people filing for unemployment i listened the full donald trump quote, but he says, i'm sitting behind it was this, i'm in a month where we were all astonished when a republican meeting kings, presidents, administration dictators, he actually and a republican senate used that word. voted to give every i thought, who is visiting american adult $1,200 for a month. now, that's not going donald trump at this time? in these darkest of times, to be nearly enough. we do have to have a little bit of humour. because once you start taking away this is something that most of us jobs in this number, no—one knows how many come back, who cover real wars far away,

people do you find humour, nobody knows at what level pay i have to commend stefanie and michael for their restraint will be when you go back to work. in not entering the battle and because it could be months yet of the book shelves, none to distract our reviews this morning. before the economy is functioning, you're looking at a mass unemployment event with no way for the government to help because everybody is going to be told to stay at home. it's a impossible situation and a very dangerous one. 0n the face mask, i heard the chancellor of austria introducing earlier this week this stefanie, in europe, requirement from wednesday of this this kind of tension, how serious is it? week that people should have them, saying that, i know it seems strange for us to do in austria, we associated with people you could argue, unlike the eurozone crisis, from the far east and tourists from china. it is quite hard to blame the southern european he said, culturally, countries, because everybody it might be difficult but we have is being affected by coronavirus, itjust happens that their economies to do this. are weaker to start with, which you could argue is a failure the whole question of covering your of the eurozone system anyway. face and the politeness of seeing another person, it's a big issue, isn't it? yeah, i think it feels a bit we have had discussions, like deja vu, but the feeling for example, of people wearing the hijab in the uk, is that it will be much worse people needing to see people's faces to see if they like than the eurozone crisis, them or trust them. which started in 2009 and then dragged on for a very long time there have been wry comments

and, infact, was in france that after all these never really solved. apart now from the battles for people not to wear financial question, i thought, the hijab, we are now telling them at least at the very beginning of the crisis, to wear face max. europe was kind of all over the place. so you saw countries shutting down their borders, which they can of course, some of the doctors have pointed out, because those who have lived because if the nation says in countries where there have been other pandemics, there is a threat to they are used to wearing public safety and public health, they can close their borders. these face sars and mars. it is not just you have to wear it, poland did that, for example, you have to wear it correctly. and caused that interruption of tra ns—european traffic. if it is not put on correctly, it defeats the purpose, the disruption of goods. so the whole point is that germany decided for some days to put you should feel comfortable wearing it, therefore you actually controls on the export of protective protect yourselves. clothing, which was of course also but for the most part, i think, not only are we looking... seen as a very selfish decision. when i came to work this morning, so this has now calmed down. i thought, i wore one today because that's now the recommendation, almost no—one for the european commission, else on the street was wearing one. i thought they were looking at me to be fair, it is very difficult when i was a bit extreme, i was reminded of foreign correspondents with their flak to interfere there because things like health and also control of the borders at the end of the day jackets when no—one else is wearing them but we have to do. are national sovereignty.

the thing with face mask, everyone of course, it is seen now that the dialogue is looking over their border is even more difficult. like when neighbours look the council meeting last week over there washing line at the fence next door. was a video council. next tuesday is the next finance ministers council, also done via video link. it is going to be interesting people are asking, how come germany has all these tests? what comes out of that meeting. all i'm hearing from brussels canadians are saying, why is donald trump preventing face masks being made for us? is that they will postpone a decision, and countries such as germany and especially the northern country will argue that the president of the european actually there are billions of euros commission was saying, help by the european central bank, it is all for me. by the european investment bank. everyone is conscious the commission just announced of what they don't have, a 100 billion package vis—a—vis their neighbours both for workers that have in terms of their street but also lost theirjobs. in terms of countries. i don't think there will be much of a difference to what we have seen in the eurozone crisis. if i could just add in, let's pause our discussion of coronavirus, and give some thought to other stories around the world that might otherwise have one of the interesting things made the headlines. michael, do you want about this crisis is that it's shown that many of the veteran politicians around europe, to kick off on this? and indeed around the world, have been overtaken ideologically.

the country with, i think, now the fourth largest outbreak so, in the netherlands, for example, of coronavirus, it may change, is iran. because over the last few years, reporting restrictions have made it which has had the loudest voice virtually impossible for western journalists to remain in tehran and cover the country, and it's a very important country. in countering this idea of a corona we have no idea what's going on. bond, the prime minister, his coalition is under pressure, two of the parties have joined him in forming the government are more inclined to show fraternity and solidarity with italy, spain and france. to me, that is something which also has a severe outbreak. that is a lack, because iran sits in a very important strategic i think there will be a lot position, i'm able to follow news of pressure, and i would be from kurdistan via twitter. in baghdad, pilgrimage season is on, interested to see what kind we don't know if people are sneaking of pressure the current ruling in from iran to go to coalition in germany may come under. the pilgrimage sites. all of this is critical because, in the end, the economy as we learned in china, when you have a dictatorial regime, is so thoroughly intermingled, you can argue whether china is a dictatorship or particularly on the continent, merely authoritarian, but the dictatorship in iran... what we need now more than anything that to say, well, we are not is cleared open sharing of bags amongst medical professionals about what is happening, and we are not getting that. 00:10:53,367 --> 4294966103:13:29,430 i would like to see more from iran. going to help corona bonds or, indeed, the best way to go forward, we are not going to help italy or spain, it could have an incredible knock—on effect on the northern countries. i think as the weeks go by,

politicians are going to come under more pressure in the north than perhaps they are at the moment. lyse, it's interesting, the example there that michael gave of the comparison with the 1920s and ‘30s, because i suppose the dilemma for any politician now, your reputation could be destroyed by how you don't answer these challenges. president hoover, a man who had helped to feed the starving masses in europe at the end of the first world war, a man who had quite a lot of good things in his political past, his reputation was destroyed by being the man in office there. the shanties set up for people withoutjobs who were homeless and starving, and fdr came up with his message of hope. nothing to fear but fear itself. there are political opportunities, but also a huge risk for leaders around the world, how they tackle this challenge. this is the kind of crisis we generally use phrases like defining moments. this defines citizens, it defines the states,

and it defines the relationship between the citizen and the state. it brings it right down to the basic. people are elected or people are in power to protect their people, and now their people need protection. this will sit long in the memory, even in china. china has not been able to suppress the voices there, and that is a country which has huge control over the internet and other means of communication. people are saying, you are not telling us the truth, you are not protecting us. as stefanie says, there was an impression that britain was slow. people are saying, what does that mean in terms of lives? individuals are asking, did i lose my grandfather because we were not quick enough? did i lose my mother who's a nurse because she didn't have the protective equipment? people, individuals, neighbourhoods, societies, countries will remember what their governments did not do or did do at this hour of need. good. thank you very much.

let me ask for a final thought you would like to leave us with at this time. lyse, first of all, you had a thought about the future of government? well, there is always, to use another phrase, there are also wars within wars. it isa it is a journalistic lexicon. we are already hearing about the battle of narratives. people still remember to this day who came to us in our hour of need in the first world war, the second world war, who fought against us, who took too long to came to our aid. we have ceremonies, we have monuments to remember who stood shoulder to shoulder with us. this is being discussed, we are focusing on europe. apparently they did a survey in italy where 60% of italians say not enough aid was coming from europe and saying that the chinese and russian are helping us. factually, i understand that it is not the case.

europe did do more for italy, but people believe that the chinese did more. when this is done, because one day this will be over, people will remember the heroes. the heroes on their street, the heroes in their country, but also the heroes who stood by each other, which is why, day in, day out, we are hearing from the un and other world organisations, let's work together, so that at the end of the day we can say that we all did whatever we could to keep all of us safe. stefanie, a brief last thought from you. very briefly, i was very moved yesterday by the nurse, the head of the royal college of nurses, who spoke at the government press conference, and was talking about these two nurses that lyse just mentioned, two young women, three children, and they died working to save patients. they were pleading, please stay in.

i mean, this weekend, it's really hard in britain, there is going to be such nice weather, you have kids to pacify — but please, everybody has to stay indoors. michael? just to say to all people viewing — read your papers with proper journalistic scepticism. the projections about what will happen next, how many numbers, how many this — we simply can't know. the data collection on this disease have been very, very poor, so learn to read the numbers, it will help you with your anxiety. learn to read the numbers with some scepticism. if you hear a hard fact — 5,000 mask for 500,000 nhs workers, you can take that to the bank. if someone says, you can have 250,000 deaths, that is a meaningless extrapolation — ignore it. thank you all very much forjoining us on the programme. my thought before going — this virus is infectious, but a smile is much more so.

from dateline london, until the same time next week, goodbye. hello there. 17 degrees was our top temperature on saturday. i think sunday will bring temperatures into the low 20s for some of us. plenty of sunshine across the uk. it will be breezy, especially in the west, where we will also see some outbreaks of rain arriving later in the day. but a lot of sunshine around through the day for many places. sunshine perhaps turning hazy as some wispy high cloud spreading from the west, and later, we see rain into northern ireland, western scotland, perhaps cornwall and pembrokeshire. windy for all of us, but could see gusts of 50mph or more

in parts of northern ireland and western scotland. but with those wind coming up from the south, yes, it will be warm, 21 in london, even further north, glasgow likely to get to 18. however, that rain in western areas will push its way eastwards as we go on through the night. could see heavier bursts returning to the far south—east corner through the early part of monday morning. very mild through the night. double digits for many. monday, a slightly cooler day for many, rain clearing the south—east, it then warms up again as we head through the week.

this is bbc news. i'm simon pusey with the latest headlines for viewers in the uk and around the world. new york state records its biggest one—day jump in deaths so far. more than 3,500 people in the state have now died.

spain and italy, the two countries which have suffered the highest numbers of deaths in the coronavirus pandemic, both report progress in tackling the outbreak. people in the uk are urged to stay at home, amid another large rise in reported deaths. the queen will praise the country's self—discipline, and quiet good—humoured resolve in response to the crisis, when she makes a rare television address later