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for them. great to talk a big thing for them. great to talk to you, kevin gallacher, former scotla nd to you, kevin gallacher, former scotland international who won the premier league with blackburn rovers. this is bbc world news, the headlines: the queen will praise people's self—discipline, and quiet good—humoured resolve in response to the crisis, when she makes a rare television address later today. she will personally thank frontline health care staff and other key workers for their efforts during the crisis. president trump has warned americans to prepare for a big increase in the number of coronavirus deaths. new york state recorded its biggest one—dayjump in deaths so far, with 630 dying from the virus. the two countries which have suffered the highest numbers of deaths have both reported progress in tackling the outbreak. spain reported its lowest number of new infections in more than ten days and italy has continued its recent downward trend.
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here in the uk, the newly—elected labour leader sir keir starmer says the government has made "serious mistakes" in its handling of the coronavirus epidemic and that he wants ministers to publish what he calls "their exit strategy". hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. with me are katherine forster from the sunday times and sienna rodgers, editor of labourlist. welcome to you both. let's look at the front—pages.
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the mail reports on the "queen's rousing message" to the uk ahead of queen elizabeth's historic address on sunday, with the telegraph reporting that the speech will look to "invoke the spirit that saw the country through the second world war". the observer focuses on the election of keir starmer as the new labour leader, with the headline: "we'll work with pm in national interest to fight covid—19." the independent suggests that britain's underfunded care system is at risk of collapse and the repurcussions could overwhelm the nhs. sienna, let's look at the queen's address, the sunday telegraph and the others, what do you expect her to say and how important is it for britain and the common wealth that
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her remarks are well—tailored to this crisis? obviously, they're trying to boost morale and it is much—needed. no 10 said it is designed to lift the nation's spirits. it is a reminder that these physical distancing measures, a prefera ble physical distancing measures, a preferable term to social distancing, could be in place for six months. we are probably going to be seeing them come in, come out, some phasing in and out of these measures over some time. and that can be quite wearing, particularly for people who are alone. i'm no monarchist, but the queen is 93 and she is in an at risk group and it is ha rd she is in an at risk group and it is hard for people in that group that need to be more careful than others like me. this is difficult for people, particularly elderly people, there is a good chance they're in a ca re there is a good chance they're in a care home and there are issues about
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that, are they're living alone and you can feel isolated. it is a reminder that we need to reach out to people who live alone. katherine, this is a rare for the queen to talk to the nation like this, she has done it before, but do you think the audience for this will be massive. will the whole nation tune in? obviously there will be some people who couldn't careless. i think it is the right time and it will bring comfort to a lot of people. at a time of crisis, the queen, who has been our monarch for decades now, is a voice of continuity and stability and reassurance. especially to older people. but she has been through so much and she has been through the warand much and she has been through the war and various wars, the second world war in particular and she has
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spoken to us at a difficult time before during the gulf war and the death of princess diana and the death of princess diana and the death of princess diana and the death of the queens mother and the jubilee, that was a matter of celebration. i think it will bring comfort. this is seen as the right time, because we're two weeks into lock down and there is a temptation with the weather being beautiful today, that people will start to relax, get out and we have the highest death toll yesterday so far and it is very important that people do stay at home. sienna, sir keir starmer, a lot of front—pages talking about his election to the labour leadership. a difficult style of leader from labour leadership. a difficult style of leaderfrom jeremy labour leadership. a difficult style of leader from jeremy corbyn and he is saying in the observer we will work with the prime minister in the national interest at this time of
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crisis, but there is criticism of the government? yes, he has promised in his acceptance speech, he talked about how he wasn't going to provide opposition for opposition‘s sake, but would work with the government and he said that, a spokesman said, that he had accepted borisjohnson‘s offer of attending government briefings with other opposition leaders. i think that will be interesting for the labour party, in terms of how they approach this crisis basically, because on the one hand, the briefings, privy council briefings, you can't come out and just chat about what happened there. you can't say, well, they said this, it is not good enough. in some ways, it is not good enough. in some ways, it could constrain labour's point when there are failings that needs to be highlighted. keir starmer wa nts to to be highlighted. keir starmer wants to get that balance right and put the country first. he is talking
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about working in the national interest with boris johnson to about working in the national interest with borisjohnson to guide britain through this outbreak. i think he is going to want to project this image as well as really trying to improve the response of being prime ministerial himself. that is his aim and it is something, it is one of main reasons that he was elected. some people have suggested there could be a government of national unity, as in a wartime government. but matt hancock said that was not on the card, although there is a new leader at the labour party. | there is a new leader at the labour party. i can't see any prospect of that. but i do think that it is a positive that we finally have real opposition, because the opposition for a long time has been rather infeck eventual. ineffective. it is
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good for our democracy that keir starmer has come out already, yes, he is going to be not scoring cheap political points and this is not the time. but he is going to hold the government to account when necessary. he has written in the sunday times saying there are issues around protective equipment that has not been there in sufficient quantities for health care workers. the issue of testing and why it has taken so long. we are out to 10,000 tests a day, that a long way from a 100,000, the target for the month. we are so far behind where germany has been testing. the government could have done more. it is positive, keir starmer, i'm sure labour will work with the government as faras labour will work with the government as far as possible, but questions need to be asked. sienna, the sunday
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times have a picture of carrie symons, the prime minister's girlfriend, who is pregnant and is thought to have the virus, although she has not been tested. she said i've spent the past week in bed. i haven't needed to be tested. and seven days of rest i feel stronger and i'm on the mend. another victim it seems of the virus raging through downing street? yeah, i mean they have made a point, carrie has made a point of saying she hasn't been tested. that is because some people we re tested. that is because some people were questioning why politicians seem to have access to testing when nhs staff didn't and it is very concerning that social care workers, as well as nhs doctors nurse and others working in hospital haven't, there hasn't been the capacity to have them tested and they could be going around hospital infecting
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others who are at risk, because they have underlying conditions. for carrie herself, the virus doesn't seem to affect pregnant women differently from other healthy people. that is good. but obviously for a lot of pregnant women, their ca re for a lot of pregnant women, their care is affected and they have had hospital appointments cancelled or things moved online. it is an anxious time and it is good to have anxious time and it is good to have a pregnant woman talking about you know what has reassured her, reading the advice. that is important. katherine, that is the point, we don't know how this virus, because it is such a new virus, affects pregnant women. and i suppose what carrie symons has been saying maybe offers reassu ra nce to carrie symons has been saying maybe offers reassurance to people out there who are pregnant and who are worried about getting the virus? yes, i think that is the message that she is wanting to send.
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obviously, she is a high profile, being the partner of the prime ministerand being the partner of the prime minister and the baby is due in the summer. she said she has been in bed for a week. but she is on the mend and she said she has been very reassured by the advice, in that it doesn't appear this virus is especially dangerous to babies. but we especially dangerous to babies. but we don't know. it is a very worrying time if you're having a baby and obviously we wish her and all pregnant women well. it is a worrying time for everybody, but especially if you're expecting a baby. we have the mail on sunday and they have a piece about divisions within the government, at the highest levels, divisions between matt hancock and the chancellor, at war say it is mail over the best way out of lock down. that is the main
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topic of debate for many people around the country, when is this going to be over? and it is a very difficult decision for the government isn't it? it is. of course the chancellor in charge of the money is thinking about the economy and the economy has crashed. totally unprecedented and the economists are expecting it to be the most serious event for 100 years, we are the most serious event for 100 years, we are in unchartered territory, we have no idea how long it will go on and the longer it goes on, the worst the damage. the chancellor is keen as possible to get out of this as quickly as possible bgs but matt hancock, being in charge of the health service, will prioritise lives and people's safety above everything and it is
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the first duty of government to keep its citizens safe. so they obviously have, coming at the same issue from a different perspective and there is talk, we don't know, of how long the lock down will go on. it seems like we lock down will go on. it seems like we will hear on good friday whether it will be extended for at least three weeks. there is talk it will be at least another couple of months, or longer. we simply don't know. of course, while more and more people are dying, we have the maximum numberof people are dying, we have the maximum number of deaths in the uk yesterday, and also the economic effects of lock down and the effects on people's mental health and cancer treatments that have been cancelled. it isa treatments that have been cancelled. it is a complicated picture. but it does sound like tempers are fraying in government. sienna, it is inevitable there are differences of emphasis and interpretation of data
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and differences among the scientists, let alone the ministers? yes, definitely, at the moment uk guidelines for self—isolation are different to world health organisation guidelines and than alighted by one of labour candidates. she is an a&e doctor and has been expressing concern about how the prime minister talked of self—ice lating for seven —— self—isolating for seven days only. there are questions where countries are taking different approaches from each other for the same virus, which seems counter intuitive. and there is tension between the economic recovery and pushing down the curve, so that nhs capacity manages to deal with the number of people coming
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into hospitals with the virus every day. now, at the moment, the fact that lots of nhs staff and ambulance workers as well, a lot are off sick. they're talking about having adequate protective equipment, it makes a mockery of some of the measures that everybody else is being asked to do. the government needs to act on that quickly, because it is so important to keep morale up across the rest of the country to have that in place. let's talk about the implications for football, a lot of controversy about premier league footballers, whether they should thabg a take a pay cut. theed headline, premier league chiefs warn of crippling losses and the premier league footballers are saying they don't want the take an immediate pay cut, because that
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would deprive the tax, the inland revenue of taxation that could go to the nhs. what do you make of that argument? i possibly shouldn't say this, but premier league footballers are overpaid paid and i don't think many people will have sympathy for them being asked to take a 30% pay cut, when earning tens of hundreds of thousands a week is not too much of thousands a week is not too much ofa of thousands a week is not too much of a hardship and many footballers who do not pay tax in the same way asa higher who do not pay tax in the same way as a higher taxpayer would, because there are many legal ways of minimises tax, which are well known and well used. so i'm all out of sympathy. but the premier league is a huge, huge money—making... institution and they are worried
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about huge, huge losses, because of course the season is not going to finish and a couple of days ago there was talk of trying to finish it abroad. i would have thought that was it abroad. i would have thought that was unlikely. they don't want to have to pay back the huge amounts that tv companies pay to show the season and they may have to. obviously, they're concerned. but i'm afraid, compared with the fate of care workers and people in care homes and our nhs i'm out of sympathy. some people would say the football stars, yes, they earn a lot, but they're easy targets, a lot of others who make millions a week, who are not taking pay cuts? the difference is a lot of time, people who have set up business and made money and they have taken a huge financial risk. people look at footballers and say see they earn per week multiples of normal
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salaries. care workers are on zero hours contracts. i do understand and share some of the frustration and to be honest lack of sympathy. this story is interesting, the football coach talks about, he is calls on stars tojoin the coach talks about, he is calls on stars to join the revolt and to have the season cancelled, because the top players have a say and they can protect other less powerful players, who don't have a say and won't be able to speak up for themselves and how players will need the equivalent ofa how players will need the equivalent of a pre—season period to train again and it is about protection now from the virus and protection later from the virus and protection later from injuries. katherine, the other sun sport headline is about that some top clubs are applying for government money under the furlough scheme and they shouldn't be, because they have billionaire owners. dis gusting says the sun.
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liverpool are the latest club to apply for that government furlough money. what do you think of that? yes, i think disgusting, i money. what do you think of that? yes, ithink disgusting, i must money. what do you think of that? yes, i think disgusting, i must stop my rant! even big football names are up my rant! even big football names are up in arms, saying this is not on. liverpool football club are phenomenally successful, very wealthy, yet, they're furloughing a lot of nonplaying staff and the government, i—e the taxpayer, i—e you and me will have to pick up the bill and that could be £200 million. when even some of the most prestigious players say this is not on, there is an issue. we have been talking about when it might be over. nobody knows i suppose is the answer to that. in the observer they have a
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story about scientists saying could the summer help beat back covid—19, in other words not so much what we do on testing and the rest of it, but simply the weather and good weather may kill the virus. but we don't know enough to know whether it is going to become a seasonal virus like other forms of flu? yes, the thing is you know here we don't know enough about the virus and how much it will be affected by the summer. that is why it is important to have the interventions. reassuring people and emphasising the importance of actually keeping with those social distancing or physical distancing measures and i think keir starmer has called for the publication and the labour party has called for this before, but he reiterated,
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publication of an exit strategy and they haven't agreed what the strategy is at the moment. but that is important for people to be able to see an end in sight, or maybe not when it will happen, but at least how it will happen. they have been talking about people maybe getting wrist bands talking about people maybe getting wristbands or talking about people maybe getting wrist bands or certificates for immunity. how will that affect young people who will want to catch the virus to get the immunity to go out. there is so much to consider there. but i think some transparency would be welcome in the situation. do you get the sense that people even if they're obeying the lock down, their patience will run out and they won't put up with it forever?” patience will run out and they won't put up with it forever? i hope not. but it obviously is going to be become more difficult. in the, people say, oh, we are at war and we are ina people say, oh, we are at war and we are in a sense, but we don't have
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bombs dropping on us, but we are being asked to stay at home. it is easy for me with a biggish house and a garden and a family, if you're in a garden and a family, if you're in a high rise with little kids and no outdoor space, that is tough. i think it will get harder and we have seen people completely desperate, especially in the south, where the cash economy is huge, people who feel they're starving in their homes, that is terrible. i don't think we will see that here. but there have been a lot of shaming about people going out and we don't know what people's circumstances are. you are told you can go out once a day for exercise, you should go out with members of your family. some of the pictures i saw yesterday, the parks were busy, but people looked spaced out. as long as people looked spaced out. as long as people adhere too that, that is oochlt k. 0k.
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people adhere too that, that is oochlt k. ok. but of course going out and mixing, this is how the virus spread and how more people will die. the sunday telegraph has this bizarre theory that 5—g has something to do with the coronavirus and a warning to tech giants to try and a warning to tech giants to try and stop the spread of what are caused crazed conspiracy theories about 5g. , afterfive masts were attacked in birmingham and liverpool. quite extraordinary kind of conspiracy theory that doesn't really help? it is shocking to learn people are doing things like setting fire to masts. i used to work for an mp and! fire to masts. i used to work for an mp and i remember there were a lot of conspiracy theories then about sg. of conspiracy theories then about 56. and of conspiracy theories then about 5g. and masts. the first thing i saw
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when i woke up on twitter today, i saw a made in chelsea star talking about 5g. and said "—f 5g. saw a made in chelsea star talking about 5g. and said "—f5g. " saw a made in chelsea star talking about 5g. and said "—f 5g. " and she has a lot of young people following her and these accounts can share these stories. also it highlight it isissues these stories. also it highlight it is issues we saw around the general election of these fake news stories and a lot of time they are not passed around on twitter, which is where politicaljournalists are in those circumstances, but on facebook, which needs to bear a lot of responsibility in terms of tackling the stories and on what's app and there you can't monitor that, those are private messages. so it raised questions about fake news and it is particularly urgent at the moment. we have a minute left,
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katherine, fake news is dangerous at the best of times, but particular my when at the time of a national emergency? it is. this story, i almost feel you couldn't make it up. it seems to be so ridiculous, it would seem beyond belief, but it has taken would seem beyond belief, but it has ta ken hold and would seem beyond belief, but it has taken hold and certain people have felt so worried that they're attack masts, which is nuts. but it stressing the importance of getting your news stressing the importance of getting your news from a reliable source. social media, facebook, things on the internet are not reliable sources. tv, sky, bbc, obviously the newspapers, i would say that, but get your news from a reliable source. journalism that we have in the country is precious and i think it isa the country is precious and i think it is a difficult time for the media at the moment. thank you. thank you
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to katherine and sienna for reviewing today's newspapers. you're watching bbc news. now the weather. a settled sunday for much of the country with some warm sunshine. these are pictures from our weather watchers. a beautiful view in the highlands of scotland. some snow on the top of the mountains. but things will be milder through today. there is some cloud on the forecast and you can see it spilling in and will bring op patchy rain later. ahead of ita bring op patchy rain later. ahead of it a strong southerly wind. so a real difference to the weather. it will be blustery as well. plenty of
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sunshine around. a veil of high cloud in western fringes, perhaps a few isolated showers by the end of the afternoon in northern ireland. here is where we will see the strongest of the winds, in excess of aomph, maybe stronger still later on in the day. but it is a southerly direction, so it is warm. maybe not as warm with the cloud and rain with 13 to 16. but highest values possible of 21 celsius. but tree pollen is quite high in england and wales. tonight a spell of wetter weather will push in and some heavy rain in west—facing coasts. a blanket of cloud across the country. a very mild night. widely many towns and cities staying in double
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figures. we start monday with cloud. a spell of heavier rain moving back into the south—east coming up from the continent. that could affect south—east england and eastern for a time. but once that clears, sunshine and a few isolated showers. chiefly in the far north and west. not as warm on monday. still the temperatures above the average for the time of year, but highs of 10 to 18. for the week ahead after monday, high pressure will build again and a good deal of dry, settled, sunny weathered in the forecast. take care.
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this is bbc news with the latest headlines for viewers in the uk and around the world. queen elizabeth is to make a rare television address to britain and the commonwealth — stressing the value of self—discipline and resolve. president trump warns americans to prepare for a big increase in the number of coronavirus deaths. new york state records its biggest one—dayjump in deaths so far. but is the peak approaching in spain and italy as both countries report progress in tackling the pandemic? one of the uk's top scientific advisors says there is no precise exit strategy from the lockdown. exit strategies from

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