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pressure medications can change the shape of cells and make them more at risk of developing or being infected by coronavirus. this has been completely unfounded. those drugs include medications like ace inhibitors. so any medications ending in —pril, and angiotensin two receptor blockers. but as i say, this has been completely unfounded, said patients with high blood blood pressure alone and not known to be at increased risk. but what i would say is if you did, you are unfortunate enough to become unwell with coronavirus symptoms or indeed with any other kind of illness it's best practice just to call your gp, because if any patient who is on blood pressure medications or other medications that matter, becomes unwell, they often need to tweak the medications they take for a few days until they recover. so worth just touching base
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with your gp if this happens. thank you for that. brian, david gleason asks, why is that only a partial lockdown in the uk, not a full one? workers in some other factory indices are still going to work, putting people's health at risk. what do you say to that? well, it's all a question of balance in a way. there are some things that we need to keep open. there's no point in letting us go to go shopping once a week if there's nothing on the shelves. we need to have some of the food manufacturing working we know there is a need, for example, purely to manufacture ventilators. but the people who manufacture ventilators have to the people who manufacture the parts for ventilators. they have to have people who import the raw materials. so there are some things that we have to keep going. it's a balance between letting those go and managing the risk as much as possible. i was going to ask you one that sort of pertains to your previous role dealing with global health at public health england. that is, some people are surprised. people said it to me again in the last couple of days that flights are still coming
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in even from countries and cities that are very directly in the front line of covid—19. for example, at heathrow airport, flights landing from new york, people not being tested in any way, being challenged as they leave and then going out into the community, potentially at least risking carrying infection. i mean, i think there are some flights, but we need to recognize it's hugely less than it was. i think cathay pacific we're seeing in one day last week, if we had entire total of 582 people across the entire fleet in one day. so we have signifcant registered. ——signifca ntly reduced it it's difficult to cut everything down completely because again, we do need to actually import things. we do need some people to move around. what's important is that when people come in, they then become subject to all the restrictions that the rest of this nuclear is subject to. so they take one journey from the airport to where they live and then they go into self—isolation like the rest of us.
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and won't come out again. so they need to follow the same rules as we do. but also recognizing that not everybody coming in is a greater risk than we are. we have quite a lot of coronavirus in the country. many people are flying in from countries with less coronavirus. catherine. maxine kelly asks, my children live nearby, each with their young children. and one household has no outdoor space. meanwhile, my husband and i live in a relatively large, detached house with a self—contained one bed annex and a large, fully enclosed garden. would it be sensible to consolidate some of our households together? good afternoon, maxine. so i can completely understand why this is being understand why this is being asked as outdoor space is especially important at this time with us all staying at home, particularly young children. and i'm sure that parents can end up going stir crazy about being able to use the outdoors. this will partly depend, however, if anyone is in the vulnerable risk category or indeed even in the severely at risk category. but if neither parties are in either category and all members of the family are happy to take on the risk that they potentially pose for each other, then this is a decision for maxine and her family
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to make together. what i will say is having that separate annex sounds ideal. it sounds like potentially there is it will be possible for the families to be able to practice social distancing whilst effectively living together and being able to use that outdoor space together. this is quite a good practical compromise, doesn't it? this one‘s from tim garik. tim. what outdoor exercise is permitted? clearly, we are allowed to go out of the house to exercise once a day. but does that mean walking down to the corner? cycling 50 miles. walking five miles in the park? well, i mean, there is no exact definition of what's permitted it's quite difficult for the government to be too precise. if you say 30 minutes exercise because you were waist 25 minutes, say, 35 minutes isn't. so it starts actually require a lot to be reasonably sensible on ourselves. and think about why is it that we're being asked to do so much about this physical
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distance between people. so walking to the corner is fine. but try and space it actually don't do it at the same time as everybody else. and if you meet somebody, move apart, you can keep that distance. the same for walking in the park. now, we've seen all this stuff about not driving to go exercising. that is in another dimension, using the car, potentially stopping more often for petrol. all of those things are a little bit more risk and more contact is necessary. so that's not a good idea. cycling 50 miles cycling is good because it doesn't involve a lot of social contact. but if you go 50 miles and you're 25 miles away from home and you've got a puncture repair, then you've got to bring somebody else in to bring you home again, adding that little bit of risk. so we do the exercise in a way where we get the benefit, but we create the least risk for other people. thank you for that. catherine, this one from holly. she says gran is 87. she's been self isolated, goes out for daily walks because a nurse said she could. she has pre—diabetes, heart failure, mitral valve disease and asthma. she isn't fast enough to move out
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of the way of people and they have bumped into her on her walks. she hasn't received a letter telling her she's vulnerable and shows she should quarantine. is she allowed her daily walk? given your grandmother's age and her health history. she's in the vulnerable category, but not in a severely at risk category. so she therefore can still follow the step home and social distancing guidance, which means she can go out to exercise once daily. and in fact, there'll be lots of benefits to her, i'm sure, going out for her daily walk, particularly given her health history. i'm amazed to hear about people coming in. i'm amazed to hear about people bumping into her. this is a big shout—out to anyone who's bumping into holly's grandmother to please give her the two to meet his regimen. how about stop looking at your phone when you're walking and looking straight ahead of me? absolutely. and the other thing, holly, if i would have just have a chat with your grandmotherjust to make sure she understands the risk of potentially people bumping into her.
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it's interesting that the nurses advise her to go for her daily walk. it may actually be that she doesn't even want to go for her daily. it may maybe music to her ears, however. and if that isn't the case, i think, you know, as i say, there's a lot of benefit there to holly's grandmother getting out and about and if other people can sort themselves out. i'm sure holly's grandmother can still safely enjoy her daily exercise. absolutely. it sounds like she's going with all those health conditions sufficiently slowly for other people to be able to spot her and move aside if they're paying full attention. but that's very good advice. brian, this is from tessa. when will we stop non—uk nationals coming into the country as picks up on the airline flights? and even more concerning none of those who arrive in the uk being tested. why? as we said before, a, there isn't com pletely u nrestricted access because actually all sports are closing down and airlines are closing down the channel tunnel and the fairies are open ——ferries are open but much restricted. so there isn't unrestricted access.
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and it's also wrong to suggest that non uk nationals somehow create more of a risk than uk people. some of them are coming from countries with less virus than us. so it's a balance. again, we shouldn'tjust exclude people on the question of testing. it's know given where we are with testing across the uk, testing people at the port of entry is not a priority at present. one other things we can do with the test that we have would even again, what happens is when people come in, they have to then abide by the rules that we have here. one journey to home, stay at home. i was just going to raise a since it's an example has been followed in countries like singapore and australia, would it be possible? would it even be conceivable for us to do what those countries have done and said, fine, new zealand as well? fine. you come in. but you immediately going to quarantine for two weeks until we're sure that you're clear and then you can go with your normal business? it would be possible to do. the question is whether it adds a significant extra benefit right on top of the current device, which is onejury to haul which is onejourney to home
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and stay at home. i'm sure that somebody will look at as well as this evolves. but at the moment, nothing is not going to add a huge amount of more protection to us. it's more important to stick to the guidance that applies to everybody across the uk. catherine, this question comes to us from rachel. and rachel says, my parents in law finished a 14 day period of self—isolation after my mother in law had symptoms of returning from a holiday injamaica. however, on day 16 or 17, my father north started to show symptoms. do they both need to start a new a0 day period or can he just isolate do they both need to start a new 14—day period or can he just isolate for seven days? this is a common and commonly asked question that your parents and all have effectively completed their self—isolation. however, given your father in law is now symptomatic, he and only he needs self—isolate for seven days, assuming that his symptoms, specifically his fever, have finished by then. but just to just to remind them that
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unfortunately they both need to continue following the government's sent home, they should seek measures. can i just clarify that then? you're saying that even though he's showing symptoms, it isn't actually possible for him to be in that process re infecting his wife? no, because they both both completed their two weeks of self isolation and that that tends to start when the first person within the household starts to show symptoms. so if other people within the household, go on to show symptoms. you don't then restart the two weeks when that next persons develops symptoms and so on. it starts from the point the first person in the household developing symptoms. thank you for that broad. to be fair, i'm not sure this is one you'll be able to answer,
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but i'll give it a go anyway. this is from brian o'donohue in high wycombe, who says with hundreds of thousands of stranded brits being flown back to the uk from around the world, what measures being taken to check them for coronavirus when they arrive? well, i say we it's not something that we devise testing for because that's not the best use of the testing capacity, we have the best way we can make sure we look after people who are abroad and bring them home, which we should do as good citizens. the best way to protect herself is and again, that one journey from the airport to home. and once you're at home, stay at home and don't go out and follow the advice of everybody else. well, then we're going to leave it there. brian mcclosky, former director of global health at public health england, and catherine glass, nhs gp. thank you both very much for being a real pleasure to talk to you. thanks for giving up part of your sunday to speak to us and to take questions from you at home. thank you very much for the questions. it's really good to have them coming in. do keep them coming in as often as you have. as many as you have we'll sift through them. we'll do our best to answer them. this is bbc news. and thank you forjoining us
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for your questions answered. breaking news from scotland. you will have seen earlier the story about the chief medical officer, doctor catherine calderwood. she has been the face of the public information campaign encouraging people not to go out and to engage in social distancing there she is speaking at the news conference this afternoon where she apologised unreservedly for what she called her mistake in presenting her second home on two occasions, yesterday and last weekend, clear contravention of her own guidelines. it has been
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announced that she has been removed from the public information campaign for flouting the rules she promotes. police issued a formal warning after it emerged she had driven to the family's country home, despite advice that she has delivered to people not to travel. she will remain as the clinical advisor and chief medical officer. you just won't see any more of those adverts with her telling you to stay at home because she didn't stay at home herself. there are also rumours about how people can contract coronavirus. an nhs gp in windsor who was part of the service offering video appointments to patients doing social distancing. you answered first what he said was the number—one myth he has from a lot of
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patients. a lot of people would wish the alcohol rumour was true, that drinking a lot of alcohol will somehow kill the virus. there is a place for alcohol and it is in sanitiser at 60% on your hands as a wash or scrub, but it doesn't improve on soap and water. you would be very unwise to drink 60% proof alcohol, anyway. what is it about the alcohol in the sanitiser that helps? if it's strong enough, the alcohol will strip away the lipid layer around the virus, and without that, viruses are inert and cannot penetrate human cells and implant their own genetic information into human beings which is then multiplied and turned into other viruses. alcohol does that, but not as well as spoken water. washing for
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20 seconds or more with soap and water do that effectively. sanitiser is, if anything, a water do that effectively. sanitiser is, ifanything, a poor water do that effectively. sanitiser is, if anything, a poor second. soap and water wins every time. when you are out and about and you see them getting out hand sanitiser, that is useful if they can't wash their hands somewhere, but it is an alternative and not as good an alternative? that's right. it needs to be used correctly. the small travel packs people are taking around our very small and probably only have three or four applications within them, because you have to cover both surfaces of your hands, your wrists, fingers, thumbs, and to do that thoroughly. if there is any residue on your hands, it is unlikely to work very well, and you need to wash them before sanitiser
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will be any use. we have dealt with the alcohol one, here is another. if delivery drivers wear gloves, they won't spread coronavirus.|j delivery drivers wear gloves, they won't spread coronavirus. i wonder what the gloves are for. i'm not having a go at delivery drivers. we will depend on them at the moment. they are probably wearing gloves more to protect them than us. if they coughed or sneezed into those gloves, or they haven't been changed between deliveries, it is a line of infection into an otherwise possibly sterile household, and we should be aware of that and handle anything given by delivery drivers with a degree of suspicion, may have the virus, which can be passed on to us. the virus can't be passed on by food. it can be passed on any surface, and food is another
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surface. we need to be not too paranoid, but we need to be careful about anything we are handling, and where it has been previously. we don't know who has handled our food. if it has been delivered, it may have virus on it. we can take simple precautions, handling it with gloves, discard the gloves and wash your hands with soap and water. cooking food at 65 degrees or more forfour cooking food at 65 degrees or more for four minutes cooking food at 65 degrees or more forfour minutes or cooking food at 65 degrees or more for four minutes or more will be enough to kill all viruses. with fruit and vegetables with smooth skins, give it a quick run under the tap with very dilute soapy water. we don't want to tarnish the food more than when we got it, but they are wise precautions and won't hurt. vinegar is good for keeping bathrooms and kitchens free of
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coronavirus. that is a strongly held belief by lots of people, who i think believe vinegar is a sanctified cleaning product, and it isn't. i was talking about how soap and water works, but vinegar can't break down the lipid layer of a virus. there is no reason why we should change from the usual surface d ete rg e nts should change from the usual surface detergents and hot water from the tap we have been using for tens and dozens tap we have been using for tens and d oze ns of tap we have been using for tens and dozens of yea rs. tap we have been using for tens and dozens of years. that is the best thing for keeping areas clean. moisturising hands after washing reduces cleanliness. moisturisation has got a useful application at the moment, because we have to wash our hands so much. our hands are cracking, and that cracking will act asa cracking, and that cracking will act as a harbourfor cracking, and that cracking will act as a harbour for the virus if we're not careful. moisturisation is very useful for keeping your hands supple
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and preserving the primary purpose of skin, to keep the world out and you in, so please do moisturise, and do it every time you wash or every time you think of it. and olympic rower who was aiming for a medal in tokyois rower who was aiming for a medal in tokyo is instead spending the summer working in hospital tackling coronavirus. philip doyle spoke to oui’ coronavirus. philip doyle spoke to our correspondent, holly hamilton. for philip doyle, this might feel like a lifetime ago and is —— as he and his partner secured their spot at the tokyo olympics last summer. ireland, silver medal. what might work thousands of other athletes, he is dealing with —— work thousands of other athletes, he is dealing with -- like thousands of other athletes, he is dealing with the disappointment of the
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postponement of the games. everything happens for a reason. we just have to move on with it. philip has decided to return to the nhs and tackle the coronavirus outbreak head my consultant phoned me on saturday morning and said, listen, i don't have a rota for you yet, don't have things perfectly set up, because i was only on the phone to them on wednesday last week, begging for a job, so they were like, yes, we have one, come up. job, so they were like, yes, we have one, come up. medicine has always been the number one. to be honest, i've missed that element in my life so i've missed that element in my life so i'll be glad to get back to it. 2019 was a breakthrough summer for
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philip and his partner ronan. something of a surprise winning silver in the world cup regatta in rotterdam. with an olympic medal still firmly in his sights, philip admits the current restrictions have been difficult. if you have been on oui’ been difficult. if you have been on our rowing machine, it's not very stimulating. on the water, it's beautiful, lovely scenery, you push your body and you see yourself going fast pass to hedges. inside, nothing moves, just you, and it's the same movement, over and over for two moves, just you, and it's the same movement, over and overfor two or 3000 times per session. this is a very welcome change for the next few months, but it will be very challenging to continue the training programme alongside that. returning to hospital at this time, it's quite remarkable. i wouldn't say that. there are people who have done more with less in the world, so i'm lucky i have a great support network, a
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national federation i have a great support network, a nationalfederation behind me, equipment in my garage that some people don't have. i have it all set up. a lot of people do more with less in the world, so you can't give yourself a pat on the back too often. you just have to get on with it. like mike and that is exactly what he has been doing, straight in at the deep end. philip is young enough and keen enough to be there when tokyo happens hazy sunshine in the north and west of the uk, because this frontal system is draping its way. cloud is coming north out of spain, a strong southerly air stream that has been
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piling in such warm air. and that will continue through this evening and overnight. it will ease back a little through the small hours. wet weather courtesy of a weather front finally pushing into the worst through the evening, so heavy bursts of rainfora through the evening, so heavy bursts of rain for a while. it extends further east across scotland into england in the small hours but becomes patchy further south. these are our overnight lows, figures more typical of our daytime highs at this point in april. i'm i'll start on monday. by first thing, the front will pull across eastern england. it will pull across eastern england. it will take awhile for some of the ring to get out the way. instead of a southerly wind, we are left with a westerly or south—westerly. wet to start the day in the south—east and east anglia. showers further west,
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but scattered. wind is lighter than today, especially in the south, but gusty towards the north—west. a fresher feel for monday. the 11—12dc in the north, 17—18dc further south. behind that weather front on monday, we should have clearer air in terms of pollen levels for england and wales, so relief for those who suffer with tree pollen. the rest of the week, high pressure stopped bulge across ask again from europe, and that will once again introduce much warmer air, aside from the far north of scotland, where a weather front may come into play. settled weather this week, dry weather, a lot of sunshine. if anything, temperatures will rise even higher than through the weekend in the second half of the week.
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this is bbc news with the latest headlines for viewers in the uk and around the world. the uk government warns it could step up limits on outdoor exercise if people continue to flout social distancing rules. i say this to the small minority of people who are breaking the rules are pushing the boundaries — you are risking your own life and the lives of others and you're making it harder us all. the queen is to make a rare television address to britain and the commonwealth — stressing the value of self—discipline and resolve. scotland's chief medical officer apologises after she is warned —— apologises unreservedly after she is warned by police for breaking

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