tv Outside Source BBC News April 9, 2020 9:00pm-10:01pm BST
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this is outside source on bbc news for viewers in the uk and around the world. we're covering all the latest coronavirus developments here in britain and globally. our mainy story: britain's prime minister borisjohnson leaves intensive ca re as he continues his treatment for coronavirus. officials say he's in "extremely good spirits". in the united states another 6.6 million workers have filed for unemployment in the past week.
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one in ten has now been laid off. new york reports a further 799 deaths, this is the highest daily toll since the outbreak began there. and we'll report on concerns for the eu as the italian pm warns it could fail as a project unless the leaders better co—ordinate their response to the pandemic. and with 1,200 cases and just one death, we look at how new zealand appears to have stopped the coronavirus in its tracks. hello, a warm welcome to the programme. the uk prime minister borisjohnson has left intensive care after "positive steps" in his treatment for coronavirus. in a statement downing street said, the prime minister has been moved this evening back to the ward, where he will receive close monitoring during the early phase of his recovery. they add that, "he is in extremely good spirits." for the latest on the prime minister's condition here's keith doyle from outside st thomas' hospital in central london.
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these statements is the prime minister has been moved back this evening from intensive care, back to the ward. he has now been moved back onto the world. a statement from downing street said earlier this evening that the prime minister has been moved this evening from intensive care, back to the ward where he will receive close monitoring during the early phase of his recovery. the spokesperson went on to say that the prime minister is an extremely good spirits. he was brought here after suffering coronavirus symptoms for ten days, then great shock when he was moved to the icu on monday. we had seen pictures of the prime minister on the steps of downing street, really not looking well at all and then he pasted a sellthe video where, to any
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observer, he looked like he was really suffering from the effects of coronavirus. in intensive care for three nights, the statement that has come again from tonight, from downing street tonight is that the prime minister has been busy sipping from intensive care, back into the ward where he will receive close monitoring during the early phase of his recovery. the key words in there, recovery, an early phase. he is on the road to recovery, things going in the right direction but that phase, this is the early phase of his recovery. clearly some way to go before he makes a fall recovery. some reaction has come from washington, from the white house, president trump is sad, great news that boris johnson president trump is sad, great news that borisjohnson is out of intensive care and he ended his suite by saying get well, boris —— president trump has said. thank you to keep there. that is the latest on the conditioner of boris
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johnson, let's bring you up to the latest figures for the uk when it comes to coronavirus. the latest mortality numbers for the uk continue to shock — the highest daily total so far to stop this pushes the comet is a total of people dying from the virus above 7000. there were signs in thursday's figures that the virus may be coming under control. here's fergus walsh. it's clear now that social distancing is looking and virus transmission in the uk is slowing. everything we are doing, shutting businesses, staying at home is geared towards ensuring that the nhs and particularly intensive care remains within capacity. if we look
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at the number of patients in critical care in the uk, it has gone up critical care in the uk, it has gone up by critical care in the uk, it has gone up by 5% in the past 2a hours. crucially, there are signs that it may be flattening. it is certainly not taking off. you can see the light london is the worst affected. intensive care units in the capital are busy and getting busier. there is still overall capacity. that is com pletely is still overall capacity. that is completely dependent on people staying at home. if we then move on and look at the global death comparison, you can see that the uk is roughly on the same trajectory as italy and france. sadly, that means many more days of high death tolls. germany possible outbreak that started later and is much, never really taken off. part of that is down to them doing much, much more testing. we are coming up to this bank holiday weekend, but it is crucial that people take home the
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social distancing measure because, eventually, it will translate into a lower death toll in weeks to come. so the message that from fergus is pretty clear, stay—at—home. the british public being urged to do so ahead of the easter holiday weekend with the warm weather that has been forecast. breaches of the lockdown to continue to be reported. greater manchester police earlier released this showing all the places where it had received reports of people gathering in groups last weekend. these are the figures for last weekend. the green dots are parties — there are more than 600 of them. most were in people's houses — some had djs, fireworks and even bouncy castles. for more on government concerns, here isjessica for more on government concerns, here is jessica parker for more on government concerns, here isjessica parker in westminster.
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i think there is a particular concern, as there was last weekend that the good weather tempt people outside, as you say now, entering that third week of the lockdown measures, people being asked to stay at home unless they have specific reasons to go out, one daily form of exercise, only necessary trips to the shop. if they have to go to work, if they cannot work from home or to get medical supplies. the government really trying to get people to stay at home as much as possible in order to try and flatten that curve, try and suppress the number of coronavirus cases and make sure that the nhs, the national health service in the uk can cope with the number of coronavirus patients coming in. in terms of when we might specifically hear when the lockdown measures will continue, how long for, dominic raab pointed to an announcement of some sort towards the end of next week. the mood music very much seems to be as well from nations such as wales and scotland is that the lockdown measures will continue, but what dominic raab was saying is they are going to get some key scientific data from this scientific advisory group known as sage next week
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and they would want to look at that first before making the final announcement. there was a cobra meeting, an emergency cobra meeting today chaired by dominic raab again, in the prime minister's absence, we are told they were looking at the process that they would make that decision. certainly the expectation is that the government and the scientists advising the government think it would be too soon to lift those measures. we will have to wait and see for that announcement next week. meanwhile, calls for people such as the labour party, the new leader of the opposition here in the uk, saying the government must be clearer about its exit strategy, its plan for how it eventually intends to help lift these restrictions and try to get life back to normal. thank you to jessica thank you tojessica parker in westminster, bringing us up to date on the situation when it comes to the lockdown here in the uk, the hot weather forecast, especially for sunday, is going to be of concern.
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let's turn to the us, where there has been another massive increase in unemployment. in just the past week, more than six and a half million new claims have been made, the sharpest ever rise in unemployment. this takes the number ofjobs lost over the past three weeks to more than 15 million. economists believe the number could reach 20 million by the end of april, as the country has, in effect, closed for business. restrictions have put some 95% of americans on some form of lockdown. here's samira hussain. if you add up the last three weeks, we are saying it is probably more like 16.6 million americans have lost theirjobs. economists are now predicting that for the entire month of april, we are probably going to see at least 20 million americans lose theirjobs. as we are seeing in europe, the same situation here in the united states, it is unprecedented, it is something that these companies have never dealt with before. and you are seeing a
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lot of different actors in the us economy trying to address the immediate needs, which is why you are saying the us federal reserve, america's central bank pumping in another $2.3 trillion into the american economy. they are getting into businesses that they never have before. they are buying up riskier debt and they are also offering more money as loans to medium—size businesses to try and shore up what is happening here in the economy. that is the situation with the economy. when it comes to the death toll in the united states, there is a lot of concern. the number of people who have died from coronavirus has surpassed 15,000 in the states and this is the highest number globally. more than 360,000 people are affected across america. is the us close to hitting its peak with mike i put that question to
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katty in washington. it is going to be at different stages, this is such a big country with so many states that went into lockdown at different times that each of those states could hit a peak at a different moment. i am here in washington, dc, there is a big debate about when we are going to hit the peak. one of these covid sourcing models said that washington hit their peak at the beginning of april. another forecasting model says we will not hit the peak untiljuly. thatjust gives you some sense of the differences that are coming out of all of the different models and the data that people are looking at, which is why we are getting constantly these different assessments of how many deaths that are going to be in the us in total, we have been told perhaps 100,000 and 200,000. now it looks more like 60,000 just because the universities are studying this are getting more data from around the world. let's have a look at that in more detail, don't away
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because i want to analyse that little bit more. the health official leading the us scientific response to coronavirus, doctor anthony fauci has revised down the number of people that he predicts could die from coronavirus. in an interview with nbc, dr fauci said the death toll, looks more like the 60,000 than the 100 to 200,000" fatalities he initially predicted. as katty there mentioned. he added, "the real data are telling us it is highly likely we are having a definite positive effect by the mitigation things that we're doing, this physical separation." does that mean that there is social distancing and the lockdown is that we are seeing across the united states, are they in fact working? yes, that is what he said in that interview, this is all because social distancing is working and those original numbers that we had been given of up to 200,000 americans dying we're told are based on most people not doing social distancing. now in the united states,
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all but eight states have mandatory social distancing lockdown orders in place. millions of americans are staying at home and that is why we are seeing these revisions, the virus just does not have the chance to spread from people as much as it was doing so. i did speak to a formal trump administration official just this week who cautioned that we could see the second wave of this virus as early asjune. he did not think it is going to come in september, october, he thinks it could come over the summer. i think what all of the health officials are keen to stress is the numbers are coming down because we are social distancing. if we relax the social distancing, then the numbers of deaths could start to rise again. the problem for health officials and for the white house is that, psychologically, once people are told, the numbers are coming down, it is only going to be 60,000, we thought it might be 200,000, perhaps i do not need to stay home, perhaps it is not as serious as we thought it was going to be and that is what health
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officials are worried about. that people get the wrong message from the revision of these numbers. it isa it is a hard balancing act. stay with us here, we will be looking at new zealand where the premises of the country is turning a corner in its fight against coronavirus. we will be having a look how. the world bank is projecting that sub—saharan africa will go into recession for the first time in 25 years as a result of coronavirus. it says economies could contract by between 2% and 5% this year. the bbc deputy africa editor, anne soy, has more. by and large, food security is the big issue, there are fears that because countries have closed borders, farmers are not able to import inputs like fertilisers, food production is going to be severely hampered, that will drive prices up. already the staples such as wheat and rice, the global prices are going up and that is going to affect
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countries here in africa further. the world bank and imf have recommended to lend us, to put a freeze on debt repayment and that will free about $35 billion to go into the economy. they also recommended safety nets such as cash transfers and food distributions to the poorest. welcome back, you are watching outside source live on the bbc. the british prime minister boris johnson has left intensive care as he continues his treatment for coronavirus. the italian prime minister has called the coronavirus pandemic the biggest—ever test for the european union. giuseppe conte warned that the bloc could fail if it didn't take decisive action to help member states hit by covid—19. here he is speaking
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to the bbc‘s mark lowen. translation: this is a big appointment with history and we cannot miss it. myself and other european leaders need to rise to the challenge and there is no doubt that if our response is in strong and unified, if europe fails to come up with a monetary and financial policy adequate for the biggest challenge since the second world war, they ——for sure not only italians but european citizens will be deeply disappointed. mr conte also told the bbc that italy may start relaxing its virus lockdown at the end of april. italy has been under a nationwide lockdown for a month. translation: experts are confirming that the cab are starting to decline and stabilise. the number of infections is increasing. we are confident if we continue this way, we will overcome the worst phase. but we cannot lower our guard. we will cannot go from a lot god to ——
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we cannot go from a locked guard to freedom. it is likely that a scientist confirm it, we might began to relax on measures already by the end of this month. giuseppe conte speaking to the bbc‘s mark lowen. but there have been disagreements over whether eu countries should jointly issue bonds, which would see them agreeing to share debts over the coronavirus. the idea has been suported by france, italy and spain, but opposed by countries including germany, the netherlands and austria. italy has also been angered by comments made in the german newspaper dee velt. it said the countries of the european union should certainly help each other in the coronavirus crisis, but they asked with no limit and without any control. they go on to add, in italy,
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the mafia isjust waiting for a new rain of money from brussels. here is michael lowen. the italian government is up in arms, and has called on german government to distance itself from the headline. there's a feeling that the eu has got its messaging wrong during this crisis. a survey that came out last month showed that scepticism towards the european union has risen from 47 to 67% here in a space ofa month. there's a feeling this kind of wrangling that is going on is not doing anything for the image of the european union here in italy, which is one of the founding members of the eu. eu finance ministers have been meeting again to discuss further support for economies hit by covid—19 after previous negotiations collapsed. here's the chairman of the eurogroup meeting. every day we are reminded this virus
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is blind, blind to our race, colour or social class. we either sink or swim together. this is a true emergency. the netherlands was the biggest opponent of an eu—wide fund proposed after 16 hours of negotiations. but in the last few hours the dutch prime minister mark rutte sounded more posiitve about reaching a compromise. translation: we are trying to do the maximum to bring negotiations to a successful conclusion, but even if we succeed now this does not mean the european discussion of the economic effects of this crisis is over. there has to be more than later. do you think there will be a deal today translation: yes, i think thatis deal today translation: yes, i think that is possible. for more on why the eu is struggling to agree a recovery package here's our europe correspondent gavin lee in brussels.
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they seem to be giving some ground when it comes to acknowledging the fa ct when it comes to acknowledging the fact that if you barlow big sums of money, every one of those 27 governments have to acknowledge to some degree, the messages been made, they will have to pay it back. what conditions are attached with mark watt interest rates? italy has been bailed out, spain has to. those are the wins they are dealing with. with infection rates beginning to plateau in parts of europe, italy is not the only country in the european union planning to ease restrictions. denmark will reopen nurseries and primary schools next week. the czech republic plans to lift a ban on travel. and austria, which has had 273 deaths linked to covid—19, will allow small shops to reopen after easter. and belgium, france, and spain are also looking at ways they can begin to loosen controls on public life. spain's prime minister says
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the latest coronavirus data suggests the country is ‘close to the beginning of a decline in the epidemic.‘ pedro sanchez told parliament, "the fire is starting to come under control". the number of daily coronavirus deaths slowed on thursday, after two days of increases. more than 15,000 people have died in spain and the country has more confirmed cases than any other in europe. here's mr sanchez speaking in parliament. translation: if the ascent was held, the descent will not be any easier because it brings new dangers that will have to sort out. we will need an adoption process before coming back to normality and we do not even know yet what normality we will be able to return to. that is a stark shot in europe, now to new zealand where the prime minister has said that the country is turning a corner and its fight against coronavirus. new zealand went into a severe lock down just over two weeks ago,
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shutting schools and nonessential business, even before the first death was recorded. now the curve is beginning to flatten, as you can see from this graph from the news organisation stuff, with a total of 1,200 cases and just one death overall. that's good news of course, but the co—leader of the country's green party and government minister is warning that new zealand needs to stick to the strategy, not abandon it half way through. joining me now is dr kate baddock, a gp and the chair of the new zealand medical association. thank you for your time. when it comes to new zealand, we are witnessing such huge figures in the united states that's unconfirmed cases in europe, new zealand just one death. what is it that you are doing that you are getting it so right? i think one of the things that we did right is that we watched other countries and we saw the steep curves of increasing deaths and infections. we realise we could not
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cope with that. as soon as we had community transmission confirmed, i am talking to people, when we had not confirmed, that is when we decided to go down to level four lockdown which was a complete lockdown which was a complete lockdown of every public gathering, schools, universities, all nonessential businesses, everything. everything got close down, as seen siu had community transmission is confirmed. one death, 1200, just over 1200 cases, i need to stress that your population in new zealand is 5 million people. a much smaller population, a little bit easier to contain, to think you have luck on your side as well? i think that is true, it is easier as an island but we did have to bring about 40,000 new zealanders home over the time of the initial phases of the lockdown. and we had something like 250,000
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people in new zealand who were travelling here at the same time. yes, we are now an island, we can lockdown our bodies but we still had to move people across these borders in order to get our own home and others back to their own countries. can you tell us when it comes to per capita testing, how are you getting on there? have you got a high tasting ratio to the population? we have now. initially we were testing according to quite strict criteria, similarto according to quite strict criteria, similar to other countries. we were probably only picking up those who we re probably only picking up those who were symptomatic. as of day eight of our lockdown, which we are now on day 15, 16, we opened up testing enormously. we were testing between 4500, 5000 people a day and that is how we really know that we are flattening the curve, because we only had 29 cases yesterday, despite
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4500, 5000 has been done. and the idea, you have been on a strict lockdown, when do you think you will be in the position when you can revisit the notion of the lockdown, perhaps using in certain areas? everybody is looking forward to that. the government is going to be meeting on the 20th, with a view to making a decision about whether or not lockdown has to be extended past the two—week period, which will be the two—week period, which will be the 22nd. thank you so much for talking us through that, fascinating to speak to you and that insight in what is happening in new zealand. the rest of the world is very much looking at the figures are new zealand and just working out what it is that they are doing to get it right, just one death so far out of a£5 right, just one death so far out of a £5 million telemark population —— like a a £5 million telemark population —— likea 5 a £5 million telemark population —— like a 5 million population. i want to bring you these pictures
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from 8pm, a tradition of everyone coming out onto the streets, safely distance to collapse for the nhs, for key workers, is everyone keeping a safe, too —— to keep us safe. it is time to then newscast. yesterday laura tease the nation by saying we are going to have a celebrity couple on tonight. yes? are we? we definitely are. he is the celebrity mr and mrs? a while. and ferguson another studio. and ferguson another studiolj and ferguson another studio. i like to introduce you all to the other
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adam, it's adam from the london school of hygiene and tropical medicine, hello. you're also the author of the rules of contingent, new book which i understand with rich last year but published this year. it was. it was wrapped up in novemberand then of year. it was. it was wrapped up in november and then of the enough came out in february. you study diseases from it mathematical and epidemiological point of view. all of our research is focused on disease, but also over the years spent looking more broadly at how some of the ideas how the outbreaks bya some of the ideas how the outbreaks by a pledge other fields and help us get a handle on some of those problems as well. we will be exploiting you big time tonight. certainly it's great to have you. first things first: as always have an update on the numbers and 16,784 people hospitalized, 7978 deaths.
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still a massive shock reading of those numbers every day, that's an increase of 881 from the day before. laura, what with the politicians be making of those numbers? at the end of another very sobering week, never so high so shocking, each and every single one of them a source of huge pain and sadness for an individual family. attempt of the government response to it it's clear now that they believe they are very strong measures they have taken, limits on our lives, are having an impact in the government scientist today said we went up it was you think slow down but flatten out, let's have a listen. as root result of stopping the transition in the community we stop new cases appearing. and this slide the numbers go up and down a bit, but what you can see is it's
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not taking off in that sharp uptake, it's not gone sky—high, and if any think there might even be some flattening. that's because of what we are all doing with social distancing. if we had not done that those cases would now be very much higher. was also a graph in intensive care and everything happening in terms of social distancing web businesses being shut down, staying at home it's all directed to ensuring that the remains capacity in intensive care and although there's been a 5% increase in the past 24 hours in the numbers in intensive care with london far above the rest of the uk again there are hopeful signs that it's beginning to fight in. certainly not raising exponentially and from the people that work in intensive care units that have spoken to today and message they say we are busy, yes much busier than we
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we re we are busy, yes much busier than we were but we still come in london, which is most worst affected have capacity. one of the people most affected is the prime minister, part of the headlines but as you understand his condition is continuing to approve are still in intensive care but getting better, from a cheese that word was still in a serious situation where it's clearly the view government, scientists and medics today that this massive effort to expand the number of beds available has meant that they think they are just about the right place. your book is all about curves because it's all about curves in the end we are all obsessed about curves, do you agree with patrick? there is signals that transmission is probably declining, looking at social behaviour data my colleagues ran a studyjust after lockdown went in suggesting that
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social interactions have dropped by about 70% if that reflects the national picture that's quite a substantial decline in transmission. we need to wait a week or so for the people infected or not to become ill and that's perhaps another week or two before we have people in hospital and then the fatalities and the outcomes. in terms of the reproductive number, the average numberof reproductive number, the average number of people that you should infected person goes on to infect, obviously that goes up or down depending the type of measures that are taken. it was sort ofjust under three, is there any early data on what it may be now, because we need to get it below one can but don't we? looking at these studies if you translate that into what that means for transmission it suggests on these primary studies that the reproduction number is likely to be below one at this point that reflects what we are seeing in just
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a huge change in social behaviour but of course that needs to stay in place to assure that transmission continues to decline in the same rates. if all of the measures are edging a tower, because in the pubs is one. which block could you take out at thejingo is one. which block could you take out at the jingo tower not fall over? one of the challenges of locked outs in so many places as you've got all of those happening at once, which affect which of those has is quite difficult and models could help us to some extent get a sense of what is a major role and what doesn't, for example things like working from home reduce love interactions in these groups, it plays a big part but probably very occasional interactions going outside to exercise does not play a major role which is one of the things that people can still do, but the question is in the middle if you
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cannot do everything and have all of those different pieces deciding which of those in which order it's a really tough decision at the uk faces an now a number of other countries as well. there was some discussion with the chief scientific adviser, the proportion of people who don't have symptoms but have had the virus and also on how many, what percentage of the population have already had coronavirus and he was saying that maybe we look at about 30% of people that don't have symptoms but still in most countries would be down at the low single digit percentages in terms of the numberof digit percentages in terms of the number of people infected. what do you make of those figures? you were tweeting something about that today about a study in germany like the worst affected area in germany looking at who has had a inn who did
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not have symptoms and who has recovered. yes, i think one of the things that's reasonably straightforward to get a rough estimate of is how many people are out there with symptoms that are not being picked up. estimate in the uk only a very small percentage are showing up in the data but we know that because of the breath of testing being done. we estimate potentially you're looking at may be about a million people in total have been ill with this and if you commit isa been ill with this and if you commit is a bit of uncertainty but in data if you are assuming maybe 30% of people or 50% don't have symptoms that would double that number potentially to the low digit percentages of the country who have been exposed to this would be possible and what we are seeing. one of the nice things about that german study that came out today as it was an area of germany that was very badly affected and did really extensive testing for antibodies and
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seeing who has been exposed in the past as well as testing the virus of who is currently got it, and then it was coming out of that are pretty consistent with the sort of assumptions we've been working on over the last few weeks. of course we got quite a lot of uncertainty about exactly how many people are affected and how many people are showing symptoms of what we are staying out of that study does not really contradictory we have been thinking and the fact that this is a ha rd thinking and the fact that this is a hard area where many have been affected six areas that have not had the extent of cases and impact are not anywhere near that. that puts to bed maybe 50 or 60% has had already match is not the case?|j bed maybe 50 or 60% has had already match is not the case? i think that study was trying to demonstrate theoretically a range of values and i don't think it was never really that possible and the study certainly packs up it's a much smaller proportion. it's interesting
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thing from a member of the public point of view, people hope they had it, is that i had that cold if few weeks he was not feeling so well because actually then that would make you feel better about what's going on because it's very interesting to hear this figures being so low today and also strikes me at the very start of this talking about figures may be, i remember the press co nfe re nce about figures may be, i remember the press conference saying we might end up press conference saying we might end up with absolute upper end of people who might ultimately get it would be 80% but they think it would be a lot lower than that, and clearly right now it really is a low level compared to anything secular in the lower number of people who have had at the longer this could go on. you mentioned the antibody testing in germany. what type of test was that and can we buy some? do they work? is beena and can we buy some? do they work? is been a lot of testing, they were looking at an antibody that takes a bit longer and generally when you get infected you get a short—term
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antibody that appears and reacts to the virus and you get this accumulation of what we call an adaptive response that last a bit longer. typically for infections and we need to develop an immunity that will protect you in the future. they have this longer—lasting response but there's a difference between looking at the population level and looking at the population level and looking in the individual level because you have a test that imperfect and test hundreds, probably thousands of people you can still get a rough idea of 10% or 30% of the population, but at the individual level you get some uncertainty. if you're only 80 or 90% confident that person has or has not had it and if we are seeing talk, for example, of this being used as immunity passports or something we have to acknowledge that there is going to be uncertainty in that test and it's not a yes or no that you've definitely had it. it at the end of the day it's how it affects people so
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the day it's how it affects people so appallingly. it's a believably serious and why everybody has a strong reaction to what is going on behind every single case there is a family and the human story at a huge amount of worry. it's quite nice to chat about these models and numbers that are not personal, but what's much less nice is yes when you hear the human suffering is quite an incredible example of that on the today programme this morning from sue martin, her husband is in intensive care in wales and she talked at length and with little emotion about what she and he and their kids have gone through commit is talking on the today programme this morning about going into see him in intensive care ward with the kids. they said there was almost zero chance he was going to survive, and then that he was on the brink. i rang back later that day and begged to be able to see have, because
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obviously we had not seen him since he left the house. we went in and they were so wonderful, they were so compassionate and empathetic. they put us in counts, all in simulators of our aprons, plastic aprons and double gloves and masks and it took us double gloves and masks and it took us in and put the screen around the bed and let us have ten minutes with him and he was it's like he wasjust sleep he had so many tubes and wires and him and everything, but it's like he was fast asleep and we just told him that we loved him and that was heartbreaking to hear the children tell him that they were going to make him proud. we were really glad to have that i'm really glad to have that time with him. thank you for sharing what you're going through with everyone else, it was really tough to hear that and we heard from sue, just recording this at about seven o'clock and she got
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in touch to say he still on a ventilator in the hospital. it's because of cases like that in preventing more of them that the government is really stressing very ha rd government is really stressing very hard people have to stick to the social distancing measures. the daily downing street press conference was hosted by the foreign secretary today and he made a big point about what he and his family will not be doing this weekend. point about what he and his family will not be doing this weekendlj know will not be doing this weekend.” know this restrictions take their toll day in and day out on people prospect quality of life and mental health. and i appreciate that it's often the little things that hurt the most with the easter bank holiday, and only spend it with my two boys, seven and five years old with the grandparents during easter 399 with the grandparents during easter egg hunt. there's going to be lots of people normally planning a family get—together orjust getting out in the sunshine with friends and loved
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ones. unfortunately right now we just can't do the sorts of things and i'm really sorry about that. is currently no sign at the moment the government is planning to lift these frustrations anytime soon. but as you were hearing from other adam it's not going to happen right now for obvious reasons. one of the reasons is because some people have not been paying enough attention and this is a bit of information that greater manchester police put out a fa ct of greater manchester police put out a fact of the things they discover people doing last week. barbecues, parties, things that had to go and tell people off were plainly not just may be talking about to close, but really, really going against the official advice. in the put out a map of the whole area and notjust the city, and overfour days between saturday and tuesday there were 494 house parties broken up, i lived in manchester once, that seems like quite a manchester number of house
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parties. hundred 66 tree parties i don't accumulate golden jubilee, parties. hundred 66 tree parties i don't accumulate goldenjubilee, i think you mean like people in the street in the group. and 295 of the group gatherings. our colleague found some of being told off or going for nice quite canoe in cumbria. a car with a canoe on the roof drifts he runs a registration check. i'm going after that. and then heads off. is it a twisted picture of the stop, two men from more than 80 miles away are ordered to do more than 80 miles away are ordered todoa more than 80 miles away are ordered to do a u—turn and go home. more than 80 miles away are ordered to do a u-turn and go home. who would have thought a few weeks ago, and i'm not laughing at this but who would have thought we would have had a cliff of the police and stopping someone in the lake district where a canoe on the top of their car but
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this is a big deal or who would've thought we had a police chief from the temperature earlier suggesting that they might soon be poking around in people prospect shopping trolleys was though they sorted said they are not going to do that but didn't they? we have a few people, a minority who are quite blatantly flouting the law and its to those people that i'm saying enough is enough and we are now going to start to come looking for you and find you and is necessary arrest you. some police forces are looking for more power because they are not going against the law. overall the change in behaviour has been absently massive. it was also happening is that they are starting to think how to they communicate what may be the next phase which is a more flexible set of some restrictions turned off some may be turned on and that might be affecting different age groups potentially. this idea floating
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around about may be allowing people out but the elderly and vulnerable staying home, or may even be a way that you have some regions of the country to different things and then at times a communication message that's really ha rd at times a communication message that's really hard because once you got to stay at home from a messaging point of view everything up until then was almost too nuanced but a campaign message, what messages were? three words. take back control, education and a stay at home. something that is welcome babe if you're in that group that's really tricky and they're starting to thicken about that not because their deeds away from changes the restrictions but because that's probably where we are heading. it's a really good point you have to change that it is tricky, but if we wa nt change that it is tricky, but if we want to reduce disruption of the population will have to get comfortable with the idea that this is going to go on for a very long
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time in one form or another and they are maybe going to have to really shift what they do at quite short notice to ensure that things can open up again but it can also control transmission if needed. what you mean when you say may be a very long time? in the absence of any control measures this thing will grow as it has in the past. as they've develop community. either through a vaccine which will probably be 18 months for a couple of years away, we see these proportions of the populations exposed so far but it's not the case thatis exposed so far but it's not the case that is a lot of people infected and transmission is unlikely to continue. i think we are going to need some form or other of control in place for the foreseeable future and a hope is that we can adapt to what we do so it's less disruptive, but i think we have to be prepared the aspects of our lives will look
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very different for the foreseeable months if not a year or two. until we get a vaccine if you have to go back to normal and don't have any control in place we will see the health care systems overwhelmed.” have got my head around a year but not two. the challenge isjust have got my head around a year but not two. the challenge is just the vaccine timelines. our hope is that we can develop a vaccine that works effectively and get rolled out but there's other infections that we have come out we don't have vaccines against yet, so we need to be optimistic but we also need to be slightly cautious does not go to be six months in a vaccine available for every person. thank you so much for every person. thank you so much for coming on, come again another time because we will be talking about this for another time —— a long time clearly. that's what
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weight what we're doing intellect on so important. it's helping people who are really having to lead the fight against in the nhs. the two chief advisers on science and medicine did say a few weeks ago that the most severe type of restrictions we have currently for the moment would have to be in place for at least six months of the year and not being turned on and off and varied of the next year. depending on the capacity with the intensive care, it's a long haul. a substitute actors were doing what they can to help nhs workers, it's helen and
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damien lewis. they're joining us on the phone because like everyone the wi-fi the phone because like everyone the wi—fi and broadband situation is not super great where they are. but thank you forjoining us, by hook or by crook. expect with what you are doing to help nhs workers. we've got lots of friends in the nhs, and when this outbreak happened we were speaking to them about how they felt is that all the problems they had we re is that all the problems they had were the cafes and restaurants around the hospitals are closing in the hours they work doing more longer and longer, and not able to get food we thought 0k and sent a few pictures and we spoke to a man called bob and imperial finish and trust and expanded with more than just a few but actually they had a large amount of staff that were not managing to eat at all in the hospitals don't even have a restaurant. we decided we wanted to
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try and get food to these people who we re try and get food to these people who were working such long hours and we re were working such long hours and were not able to. so we found a man called john vincent and he was already interested in order to try to help the nhs and together we started a campaign to try and raise £1 million to six see the nhs —— feeds the nhs. how many people do you think you will be able to feed and keep going? getting out about 6000 meals a day for these trusts, there's 20,000 members of staff in there's 20,000 members of staff in the imperial trust, we have gone into partnership with lots of other food suppliers and is a coalition of good will amongst all of the food operators to try and help out, would have got big catering companies like baxter with come on board as well as other smaller restaurant groups who
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are trying to help out and as soon as we started raising this money for london and getting lots of messages saying how can i help my sister—in—law when my mother is a nurse in birmingham or whatever it happens to be, whatever happens to be with got to our million target, almost at her million pounds target now and only after ten days of starting the british public are feeling incredible, i know that are a bit cast strapped at the moment, but they've been unbelievably generous. i can tell you from the intensive care unit at university couege intensive care unit at university college hospital where i was filming a few days ago i went to to the staff room and there was a huge huge spread of food, all of which had been donated and i recorded a video, they wanted to tell people who
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donated it and all of the volunteers who brought in just donated it and all of the volunteers who brought injust how grateful they were, and they worked chomping their way through it and there was healthy stuff, loads of fruit, hummus, there was a lovely broccoli salads and then there was also loads of carbs as well. they were just immensely immensely grateful. it's making a massive difference to them because they are doing 12 hour shifts 60 hours a week and there's nowhere for them to get food. where can people find out about your campaign if they want to? feed nhs duck,. we were doing pq blinders and redoing fittings and and had to stop it. and damien was in new york and was flown home. if you came up with a movie script like the reality and
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probably would not have got anywhere, they would've said it's too far—fetched. anywhere, they would've said it's too far-fetched. no, iwould anywhere, they would've said it's too far-fetched. no, i would have turned this film down. why would you have turned this out if it came as a script? it's an incredible drama in real life, the relief is terrific but it's an amazing, why would you turnit but it's an amazing, why would you turn it down? it would seem so far—fetched. that's what's so hard. we are all at home and are doing our best and not going out but you feel responsible, you're watching the news, finding it was happening all over the world and it's so overwhelming. it sort of seems fantastical, you are absolutely fine, you're puttering along in coping with that, you know, cleaning and cooking and cleaning a cooking and cooking and cleaning a cooking and cleaning and cooking and suddenly it's there. and it's the fear and vulnerability coming out and you pick yourself up and go along again as if nothing happened. it's very surreal. i love a quiz and
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i have compiled a mr and mrs lock down quiz. what is the weirdest meal that damien has cooked in this period? the weirdest meal we had re ce ntly period? the weirdest meal we had recently in the last 24 hours was chicken and breadcrumbs that made the smoke alarm go off with spinach, and orange segments. that sounds revolting. what is hell and secretly watching on tv on her tablet or la ptop watching on tv on her tablet or laptop when you are not in the room? she's going to left me saying this. she's going to left me saying this. she is having a tv... laughter. with steve coogan. laughter. if you are
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out there you are mucky. listen steve coogan, and that goes for you in perpetuity. a man who can make you laugh! in which part of his tomography are you consuming? anything he will give me. alan partridge. i think we will leave the household in peace. it will have another conversation about steve coogan. thanks everyone for listening and we will be back with another episode of coronavirus newscast. tomorrow. bye. are we? we definitely are. he is the
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celebrity mr and mrs? a while. hello, we have seen a contras in the weather across the uk in recent days. for many, warmth and sunshine and for some, temperatures in the lows 20 celsius, well above average for the early part of april. for others, much cooler and cloudier, parts of scotland and north—east england struggled to see temperatures in double figures on thursday afternoon. some want and such aid returning to those cooler areas through good friday as the frontal system pulls its way northwards. high pressure is the dominant feature. some showers are not on good friday across the far north of england, most likely across scotla nd north of england, most likely across scotland where they could be thundery and heavy. for much of the uk on good friday, anotherfine, warm and mostly sunny day. temperatures, 24, maybe 25 celsius for central, southern and eastern parts of eglin. a warmer day across north—east england under different wind direction and warmer to across parts of scotland. more once on
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saturday, ten, to deal of sunshine for much of the uk. the exception being the far west of scotland, some patchy rain, could see cloud arriving into northern ireland through the day. meanwhile, holding onto that want of much of england and wales, to drop to 26 celsius across parts of south east england. change is afoot easter sunday, ellagic france pushing their way eastwards, more likely to see showers developing across england and wales on easter sunday, somewhat hit and mist, but while we do see them, they could bring a lot of rain ina them, they could bring a lot of rain in a short amount of time. dry across northern england, northern ireland and scotland, but cloudy and windy and turning cooler is well and that trend continues as we go into easter monday. high pressure building from the north—west but it creates a squeeze in the isobars, windy on the easter monday under cold day. we start to see the wall been replaced by these blue colours, the colder air flooding across the uk. we will notice the difference.
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first thing on easter monday, some cloud in some outbreaks of rain across the far south of england, it will dampen away. for most, dry day with the whereabouts of cloud and substantial, the best further west you are. more cloud down the eastern coast. add on the strength of the wind and it will feel much colder. some places will struggle to get into double figures. where we are seeing highs of 22, 23 celsius, more like 12 or 13 so much colder day. colder days will equate to some colder nights and early next week, an increasing risk of frost, particularly for inland areas. gardeners, take note. as we go through tuesday, high—pressure centred right across the uk. some quiet conditions. mostly sunny, chilly and places, frosty start in some places on tuesday, but it did tell of sunshine. cloud feeding off the north sea across parts of east anglia in south—east england, andj day for all of us only when there is fairly light. a bit breezy for some channel coast and in the sunshine and vital winds, highs of 11, 14
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celsius. it should feel pleasant enough at the early part of april. through wednesday and thursday, change again. we start to lose the colder air and sea something a bit milder. whether conservatives of low pressure, high pressure pulls away, it becomes the more dominant feature. through the end of next week and into the weekend, we are much more likely to start seeing some showers. it is april after all, somewhat hit and mist, a lot of us will see some rain by the end of the week. —— somewhat hit and miss. that's it for me, goodbye.
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the prime minister is moved out of intensive care as the uk's death toll rises sharply again another 881 people have lost their lives to coronavirus. borisjohnson is spending his 5th night in hospital after being moved to a ward doctors say they are monitoring him closely almost 8000 have now died among them tony wilkes who broke his arm and caught the virus in hospital. it was just so dreadful that no one was able to visit him for three weeks and no one was able to be with him in his final hours and minutes. police step up checks on social distancing as the government says it's too early to lift restrictions and urges everyone to stay at home over the easter weekend. let's not undo the gains we have made, let's not waste the sacrifices
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